Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource meetup at Museum - Esino

[Tobias Schönberg]

I am at the Wikiproject Medicine Meeting. Is there a link to the
Etherpad? -Tobias

2016-06-23 9:52 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni :
> Now!
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> Please come.
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> Aubrey
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[Wikisource-l] Fwd: [Wikidata] Fwd: "Wikipedia as the front matter to all research": A brown bag on scholarly citations in Wikipedia this Friday 12/4 @ 12 PT

[Tobias Schönberg]

I think the below is also interesting to the Wikisource community.

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From: Dario Taraborelli 
Date: 2015-12-04 16:43 GMT+01:00
Subject: [Wikidata] Fwd: "Wikipedia as the front matter to all research": A
brown bag on scholarly citations in Wikipedia this Friday 12/4 @ 12 PT
To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." <
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A reminder that this will be streamed today at 9pm CET / 12pm PST
We’ll be talking

about
unique identifiers and bibliographic/citation data in general as well as
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData

You can join the conversation via IRC on #wikimedia-office

Dario

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*From: *Dario Taraborelli 
*Date: *December 2, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM PST
*To: *wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, Research into Wikimedia content and
communities 
*Subject: **"Wikipedia as the front matter to all research": A brown bag on
scholarly citations in Wikipedia this Friday 12/4 @ 12 PT *

Come and join us for a brown bag this *Friday* *December 4 *at 12 PT to
learn about *unique identifiers and* *scholarly citations in Wikipedia*,
why they matter and how we can bridge the gap between the Wikimedia,
research and librarian communities.

*Wikipedia as the front matter to all research*

YouTube stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB_oexqz8pA
Event information on Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_as_the_front_matter_to_all_research


*Measuring citizen engagement with the scholarly literature through
Wikipedia citations.*
Geoffrey Bilder, CrossRef

Wikipedia (in toto) is probably the 5th largest referrer of citations to
the scholarly literature. That is, more Wikipedia users click on and follow
citations to the scholarly literature *from* Wikipedia domains than from
any single scholarly publisher in the world. What does this tell us about
general interest in the scholarly literature? What does this tell us about
scholarly engagement with  editing Wikipedia articles? The short answer is
“we don’t know.”  But we are actively working with Wikimedia to find out.


*Building the sum of all human citations*
Dario Taraborelli, WIkimedia Foundation

As sourcing and verifiability of online information are threatened

by
the explosion of answer engines and the changing habits of web users,
Wikimedia has an outstanding opportunity to extract and store source data
for every conceivable statement and make it transparently verifiable by its
users. In this talk, I’ll present a grassroots effort
 to
create a human-curated, comprehensive repository of all human citations in
Wikidata.


–
Bonus read: a real-time tracker of scholarly citations added to Wikipedia,
built with Raspberry Pi
http://blog.crossref.org/2015/12/crossref-labs-plays-with-the-raspberry-pi-zero.html



*Dario Taraborelli  *Head of Research, Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org • nitens.org • @readermeter





*Dario Taraborelli  *Head of Research, Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org • nitens.org • @readermeter



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Re: [Wikisource-l] Vote for Google OCR-Wikisource integration in 2015 community wishlist

[Tobias Schönberg]

I think it is important for non-technical readers of this list to separate
the 2 issues in the discussion.

1) OCR-Integration
This is something WMF can help with, because they can make the connection
between an OCR service and Mediawiki easier and automate certain steps.

2) OCR
WMF is not programming an OCR-software and it would probably be a bad idea
to reinvent the wheel. It would be far better if editors reached out to
existing ORC-software projects. Starting a discussion or filing a bug is an
important first step in improving the situation.
Tesseract-OCR (https://github.com/tesseract-ocr) for example is an
open-source project that works on OCR (No bugs filed for e.g. Bengali). The
mailing list (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tesseract-ocr)
contains discussions about e.g. Bengali (
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tesseract-ocr/Bengali). So I
think the situation might not be good, but is certainly on its way of
getting better.
Maybe WMF-India can fund a developer to work on Tesseract-OCR. Another idea
would be, to reach out to local universities. Maybe a few
informatics-students can improve the situation.

-Tobias


2015-12-01 19:51 GMT+01:00 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) :

> From that page which, Alex has linked:
> "On the other hand, using the service for converting document formats *is*
> SaaSS, because it's something you could have done by running a suitable
> program (free, one hopes) in your own computer."
>
> Hundreds among us have burnt their hands in developing a successful 'free'
> OCR tool for Indic languages without any real luck until now.
> Until such a tool appears on the horizon, the Google facility is just okay
> to be used.
>
> Especially so, because we are anyway dealing with 'free' input and output
> material.
>
> -Viswaprabha
>
>
>
> On 1 December 2015 at 21:49, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Of course, building free OCR can be the only permanent solution, but WMF
>> is not interested in building new OCR right now. The language engineering
>> team said at the conference that, they don't have the infrastructure and
>> expertise to build such software. That's why, we have to rely on Google
>> OCR, knowing very well about its profit making intentions. It's just a
>> temporary solution but right now, its the only best possible alternative
>> for us.
>>
>> Regards
>> Bodhisattwa
>> On 1 Dec 2015 21:12, "Alex Brollo"  wrote:
>>
>>> ... nevertheless I found very interesting this about "SaaSS":
>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
>>>
>>> So, to build a true, excellent and indipendent "wikisource multilingual
>>> OCR service" would be a better solution.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> 2015-12-01 16:06 GMT+01:00 Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 Hi Nemo,

 Thanks for your interest. You can find the list of Google OCR supported
 languages in the following link -

 https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en

 Regards,
 Bodhisattwa
 Thanks for posting about the topic. Which indic languages are we
 talking about exactly? Are they included in the recent FineReader versions
 now used by Internet Archive?

 Nemo

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Template Wikipedia

[Tobias Schönberg]

@Bodhisattwa Mandal

bn-Wikisource does not seem to have a Template:Wikipedia:

 - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15632185

But Benghali Wikipedia seems to have 2 templates that link to WikiSource
(Offtopic: Should they be merged?):

 -
https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%9F%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%AA%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%9F:%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%82%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%A8
 -
https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%9F%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%AA%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%9F:Wikisource

I will see what results I can get out of those templates. Otherwise I can
also run a search-matching bot. It searches the authors name on Wikidata
and if it gets only 1 result it adds the wikisource-sitelink to the item.

-Tobias


2015-11-25 9:34 GMT+01:00 Bodhisattwa Mandal :

> Hi Tobias,
>
> It will be great if you run the bot for Bengali Wikisource.
>
> Thanks,
> Bodhisattwa
> On 25 Nov 2015 00:27, "Ankry"  wrote:
>
>> In many cases this relation may be not of 1-1 type.
>> Unless you connect disambig pages to Wikipedia in case of text variants.
>> Or if you have no text with variants in your wiki...
>>
>> Ankry
>>
>> > Hi all!
>> >
>> > As is typical for smaller communities, connecting all the pages to
>> > Wikidata
>> > items can be a major undertaking. Luckily many users have already used
>> > Template:Wikipdia (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15632185) to connect
>> > Wikisource pages to Wikipedia pages. Because Wikipedia pages are already
>> > connected quite well to Wikidata, it is easy to find the common item.
>> >
>> > I ran a bot on ar-wikisource and found ~400 inclusions of the template.
>> > The
>> > bot set ~170 sitelinks. The rest of the pages either already had a
>> > sitelink
>> > or the corresponding Wikipedia page did not have a Wikidata-item yet.
>> >
>> > Having also checked around 30 items by hand I couldn't find any
>> mistakes,
>> > which shows that the template is well curated. If anyone would like me
>> to
>> > run the bot on another language of Wikisource or share the code just
>> send
>> > me a message.
>> >
>> > -Tobias
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[Wikisource-l] Template Wikipedia

[Tobias Schönberg]

Hi all!

As is typical for smaller communities, connecting all the pages to Wikidata
items can be a major undertaking. Luckily many users have already used
Template:Wikipdia (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15632185) to connect
Wikisource pages to Wikipedia pages. Because Wikipedia pages are already
connected quite well to Wikidata, it is easy to find the common item.

I ran a bot on ar-wikisource and found ~400 inclusions of the template. The
bot set ~170 sitelinks. The rest of the pages either already had a sitelink
or the corresponding Wikipedia page did not have a Wikidata-item yet.

Having also checked around 30 items by hand I couldn't find any mistakes,
which shows that the template is well curated. If anyone would like me to
run the bot on another language of Wikisource or share the code just send
me a message.

-Tobias
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[Wikisource-l] Wikimania 2016 - Joint session Wikidata-Wikisource?

[Tobias Schönberg]

Hi all!

Would anyone be interested in continuing the discussion we had at
Wikisource Conference 2015 (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_Community_User_Group/Wikisource_Conference_2015)
at Wikimania 2016?

We could hold a Wikidata & Wikisource session and exchange ideas for the
future of text-metadata. If so, I would be very happy if some people could
comment on this page:

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimania_2016

All the best in the mean time,
-Tobias
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