Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-14 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 03/14/10 13:05, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin: So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here is exact

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-14 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 > schrieb Aaron Griffin : > >> So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to >> the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here is >> exactly what I'd expect - you cont

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-14 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 > schrieb Aaron Griffin : > >> So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to >> the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here is >> exactly what I'd expect - you cont

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > So you wanted to add a comment totally unrelated to the bug itself to > the bug? Isn't that polluting the bug report? What happened here is > exactly what I'd expect - you contacted the developer. No, this is related to the bug, because

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:38:36 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Not at all. It is statistics. For a long time before the bug > wranglers, I personally had to deal with 75% of the Project Manager > requests from flyspray. These were all reopen requests, and many of > them arguing with the actual choic

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Isaac Dupree wrote: > On 03/12/10 10:34, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want >> commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the >> developers - give reasons why the bug shouldn't be closed. That's

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 03/12/10 10:34, Aaron Griffin wrote: More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the developers - give reasons why the bug shouldn't be closed. That's what a reopen request is for. If that fails, then it's time to di

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want >> commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the >> developers > > assuming malicious users up-front? Not at all. It is statistics. For a long time before

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. > > Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. > Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs Well damn, looks like I was looking too high up.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Dan McGee wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs More-over, I think it is a bad

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McGee
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Damjan Georgievski wrote: >> Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. > > Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. > Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs > >> More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people w

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Damjan Georgievski
> Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Actually it is doable, it's a configuration option per project. Check http://bugs.archlinux.org/pm/proj1/prefs > More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want > commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the >

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Mar 2010 14:11 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > > On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > >> > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why >

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why >> > a bug is reported even if it's invalid. >> >> Seriously, p

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Mar 2010 13:28 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why > > a bug is reported even if it's invalid. > > Seriously, present some examples here, this talking in the abstract is

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 12 Mar 2010 09:34 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. > > More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want > commenting on closed bugs is so that they can argue with the > developers - give reasons why the bug shouldn't be close

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McGee
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > But just closing a bug should not be done. There's usually a reason why > a bug is reported even if it's invalid. Seriously, present some examples here, this talking in the abstract is stupid. We're all grown ups, no one is going to have the

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:34:01 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. Commenting on closed bugs isn't necessary. This is a matter of taste. Some bug trackers allow this, some not. > More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want > com

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
Hi, On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Aaron Griffin wrote: Commenting on closed bugs is not doable in Flyspray. I didn't know it, thanks for the info! So I guess every argument from now on is just for the sake of completion... More-over, I think it is a bad idea. The only reason people want commenting o

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:58:12 -0600 > schrieb Aaron Griffin : > >> This sounds like throwing technology at a problem that basically boils >> down to a communication issue. >> >> Without specific examples, this isn't going to go anywhere, really.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:58:12 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > This sounds like throwing technology at a problem that basically boils > down to a communication issue. > > Without specific examples, this isn't going to go anywhere, really. > > Would someone mind linking to the bugs in question? I

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
2010/3/11 Ng Oon-Ee : > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:49 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:07 -0600 >> schrieb Aaron Griffin : >> >> > Commenting on bugs after they are closed will just annoy the >> > developer. If you have an issue with the fix or something, reopening >> > is the r

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 22:49 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:07 -0600 > schrieb Aaron Griffin : > > > Commenting on bugs after they are closed will just annoy the > > developer. If you have an issue with the fix or something, reopening > > is the right action. If you have info

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Allan McRae
On 12/03/10 07:57, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 14:59 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: My primary complaint against flyspray is that it doesn't allow comments to be added after the bug is closed. The only way is by doing a

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 16:57, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: > You should consider moving to bugzilla. -1. I've used bugzilla, and the interface is absolutely horrible. Flyspray is much much better.

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 14:59 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > > My primary complaint against flyspray is that it doesn't allow comments to > > be added after the bug is closed. The only way is by doing a request to > > reopen the bug, and e

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:19:46 +0200 (GTB Standard Time) schrieb Dimitrios Apostolou : > My primary complaint against flyspray is that it doesn't allow > comments to be added after the bug is closed. The only way is by > doing a request to reopen the bug, and even in that case your comment > is not

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:59:07 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Commenting on bugs after they are closed will just annoy the > developer. If you have an issue with the fix or something, reopening > is the right action. If you have information to add, then add it to > the wiki, as THAT is the source o

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote: > My primary complaint against flyspray is that it doesn't allow comments to > be added after the bug is closed. The only way is by doing a request to > reopen the bug, and even in that case your comment is not added to the > comment list

Re: [arch-general] Bad attitude in flyspray again!

2010-03-11 Thread Dimitrios Apostolou
My primary complaint against flyspray is that it doesn't allow comments to be added after the bug is closed. The only way is by doing a request to reopen the bug, and even in that case your comment is not added to the comment list. Wouldn't this functionality remedy the "closing bugs early" si