Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread ralphpnj
Golden Earring wrote: > I do find it odd that given the relative popularity of this thread and > the considerable number of knowledgeable people who post regularly on > this forum, that I am only being taken to task by two people since it is > suggested that I am talking out of my hat. > > Dave

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread StephenPG
Golden Earring wrote: > Hi Stephen! > > My OED defines atheism as the theory or belief that God does not exist: > an atheist is a person who proposes such a theory or holds that belief. > Since the matter cannot be proven by any rational means, I consider it > to be as extreme a position as that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread arnyk
Golden Earring wrote: > I hope that you appreciate that you are now arguing with yourself. Why > not listen to some music & chill out a bit? > Given the obvious fact that you are still responding to me with posts, it is quite clear that you are incapable of understanding your own actions. Le

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
I do find it odd that given the relative popularity of this thread and the considerable number of knowledgeable people who post regularly on this forum, that I am only being taken to task by two people since it is suggested that I am talking out of my hat. Could this in fact be a case of psycholo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
arnyk wrote: > Possible Translations: > > (1) I know I'm wrong but no way in #$!! I'm going to admit it in public > (2) Your answers were over my head > (3) No matter what you say, what evidence you provide, I know I'm right. > > > > If you have some actual response to what I said, where is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
StephenPG wrote: > I don't think 'atheist' means what you seem to think 'atheist' means. Hi Stephen! My OED defines atheism as the theory or belief that God does not exist: an atheist is a person who proposes such a theory or holds that belief. Since the matter cannot be proven by any rational

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread StephenPG
Thank you Mr K. StephenPG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106914 ___ audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread arnyk
Golden Earring wrote: > Hi Stephen! > > Accepting that "alternative facts" appear to be much in vogue these > days, would you mind clarifying which particular facts I have cited you > believe to be incorrect? > > I'm happy to stand corrected if I have made an error. It is not my > intention to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
StephenPG wrote: > But you're not entitled to your own 'facts'. Hi Stephen! Accepting that "alternative facts" appear to be much in vogue these days, would you mind clarifying which particular facts I have cited you believe to be incorrect? I'm happy to stand corrected if I have made an error

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread StephenPG
> I'm as entitled to my world view and opinions as you are to yours. But you're not entitled to your own 'facts'. StephenPG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48249 View this thread: http://forums.s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
arnyk wrote: > Possible Translations: > > (1) I know I'm wrong but no way in #$!! I'm going to admit it in public > (2) Your answers were over my head > (3) No matter what you say, what evidence you provide, I know I'm right. > > > > If you have some actual response to what I said, where is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread StephenPG
> I am not an atheist (which is a logically indefensible position, since > you can't know that a God of some kind or another does not exist), but I > am strongly agnostic so have long ago stopped bothering with why things > are the way they are. I don't think 'atheist' means what you seen to thin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread arnyk
Golden Earring wrote: > I don't think there's any point in working through all the points you > raise. > Possible Translations: (1) I know I'm wrong but no way in #$!! I'm going to admit it in public (2) Your answers were over my head (3) No matter what you say, what evidence you provide, I k

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
I recently had the pleasure of meeting a fellow forum member who expressed an interest in taking part in my test & assisting with the technical aspects. He proved to be rather well qualified for this as he is an electrical engineer with a particular interest in acoustic engineering & an array of v

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
Just to clarify, I am not in the habit of constantly changing my music system. The Mytek DAC & Sennheiser HD800S headphones which I recently acquired are the first change I've made for 8 years. If I am guilty of self-delusion in believing that the DAC makes my system sound better (& that the Sen

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread wortgefecht
Julf wrote: > Except for those of us who play electric/electronic instruments (where > the equipment is responsible for the sound to a high degree). > Yes, but creating music and playing back music in order to listen to are not only two different planets, but two different universes. Imho. ;)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Julf
Golden Earring wrote: > I know that there is a small contingent of technophiles who actually > have little appreciation of music & select their recordings to "show > off" the capabilities of their equipment. I am firmly in the opposite > camp, I would prefer not to "hear" my system at all, just t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
Julf wrote: > Appreciation of music is subjective. Even appreciation of various form > of coloration and distortion is subjective. But laws of physics aren't. > > There is no problem with someone saying "I prefer the sound of tube > amps", but if someone says "green ethernet cables distort soun

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Julf
Golden Earring wrote: > All that I am trying to point out is that our appreciation of music is > itself subjective - otherwise we would all like (& dislike) the same > things. Appreciation of music is subjective. Even appreciation of various form of coloration and distortion is subjective. But

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
I don't think there's any point in working through all the points you raise. I did (a long time ago) get awarded an Open Exhibition to read Physics at Oxford University, so I think I do have a basis to comment on what science is and what it isn't. As Wittgenstein pointed out in the 1920's, any q

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread arnyk
Golden Earring wrote: > I've read through this thread with interest, and I fully agree with the > sentiments expressed about manufacturers' marketing campaigns being > fuelled by the "independent" reviews published by the plethora of > magazines. The sad reality is that both the manufacturers and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread Golden Earring
I've read through this thread with interest, and I fully agree with the sentiments expressed about manufacturers' marketing campaigns being fuelled by the "independent" reviews published by the plethora of magazines. The sad reality is that both the manufacturers and the magazines are trying to su

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread ralphpnj
arnyk wrote: > However, the fundamental cause, which is that so called sighted > listening tests are obvious, prevalent and largely uncontested remains > unchanged. > > Fact is that the criteria that most people instinctively use to evaluate > audio gear "proves" that the Golden ears are right.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Intona USB thing

2017-05-02 Thread arnyk
Mnyb wrote: > Mostly hope they seems to get older fewer :) and high end shops gets few > and far between . > Which says that golden ears who are boomers are going to go away. Doooh. > > But on the other hand internet :/ yeah you can live in your filterbubble > and buy stuff online . > Exact