Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread P.J. Eby
At 02:33 PM 4/8/2009 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 14:23, Tres Seaver wrote: > I want *less* stuff (ideally nothing) spelled in imperative Python, with > some common declarative file replacing both the information currently in > setup.py and MANIFEST.in. I thought we were

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread David Cournapeau
Tres Seaver wrote: > Tarek Ziadé wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Lennart Regebro > wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 20:18, Tarek Ziadé > wrote: > >>> If anyone wants to work on it, or comment, > >> Some comments: > >> > >>> "MANIFEST.in is fine" > >> Except that it introduces Yet Ano

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 20:18, Tarek Ziadé wrote: If anyone wants to work on it, or comment, >>> Some comm

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 14:23, Tres Seaver wrote: > I want *less* stuff (ideally nothing) spelled in imperative Python, with > some common declarative file replacing both the information currently in > setup.py and MANIFEST.in.  I thought we were in agreement that > non-introspectable metadata was

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 20:18, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >>> If anyone wants to work on it, or comment, >> Some comments: >> >>> "MANIFEST.in is fine" >> Except that it introduces

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 13:01, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > I don't think we want to break any current feature in 2.7, we will > probably just display > deprecation warnings and keep them, then wait until the next python version. > > And if someone want to use your package, that uses a new feature > that i

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:03, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> But I will not work in flame-threads anymore on my side. > > Probably a good idea. > > The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that you are proposing > both to remove and add things

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:03, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > But I will not work in flame-threads anymore on my side. Probably a good idea. The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that you are proposing both to remove and add things to distutils. Although backports will be available, how will this wo

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:21, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> I agree with this. Remember: I wanted to deprecate MANIFEST.in in favor of >> a pure python description. Then people strongly objected. > > How many people objected? Would it be OK to onl

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:21, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > I agree with this. Remember: I wanted to deprecate MANIFEST.in in favor of > a pure python description. Then people strongly objected. How many people objected? Would it be OK to only have support for this in an external plugin, and not in stdlib

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-08 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 20:18, Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> If anyone wants to work on it, or comment, > > Some comments: > >> "MANIFEST.in is fine" > > Except that it introduces Yet Another Domain Specific Language. Wtf > does "prune" mean? It's n

Re: [Distutils] Plugins for the MANIFEST file

2009-04-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 20:18, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > If anyone wants to work on it, or comment, Some comments: > "MANIFEST.in is fine" Except that it introduces Yet Another Domain Specific Language. Wtf does "prune" mean? It's not obvious. The docs indicate that it actually excludes, but why it's