Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

Hi Terry, Attached. _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives Hi Mike, I do not have the ability to

Re: Web servers for VM

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 10:30:30 -0500, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >TcpSStatus contains the state information maintainted by the stack in >cooperation with the SSL server. I wanted to know if the state >information it returns it is sufficient to meet the needs of Mr. >Ackerman's programm

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

>Les, you are missing PK75268 / UK41626. See PTF UK41626 is already a pre-req of UK40952. Therefore all that is needed to order is UK40952 which will obtain the support for the two new APARs plus drag the existing APAR PK75268 Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

My apologies. I meant Neal Ferguson and wrote Mark Post. I'm sorry. Jim Well said, David. Also Mark Post in a later append on this thread. Jim (IBM retiree and 100% mainframe believer) Bohnsack -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell [EMAIL PROTE

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

Well said, David. Also Mark Post in a later append on this thread. Jim (IBM retiree and 100% mainframe believer) Bohnsack David Kreuter wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_=_NextPart_001_01C95A4D.7058100C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Tr

Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

Hi Mike, I do not have the ability to get the cpformat exec as the book explains. Is this exec available somewhere else where I can just down load using IND$FILE to my desk top and then from there I can upload it to my z/VM system. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Terry

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

>>> On 12/9/2008 at 2:57 PM, Steve Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX (AIX) > Admin group last year about this time. They are now suggesting we move all > the linux work to AIX because its 'cheaper' and 'more reliable'. Umm, yeah. Right.

Re: .zVos System z/VM Connectivity - Men or Mice

> 1. A second level VM system running on the Dallas First level. > > 2. On that second level system there are two server machines which have to > be able to communicate with a z/Vos management console in Birmingham via > HTTP. Can machines on the 2nd level system reach your existing terminals via

Re: .zVos System z/VM Connectivity - Men or Mice

There are several approaches to this. You didn't mention if there is a virtual switch on the 1st level that your second level guest attached to for connectivity. One way or the other you need to get to the real OSA. If there is a vswitch 1st level you could define 5 virtual nic triplets to you

.zVos System z/VM Connectivity - Men or Mice

Over the last few weeks we have determined (without equivocation) that we are z/VM communications mice. Communications men or women would have dispatched the following problem forthwith. What we are attempting to do is describe our connectivity requirements for testing zVos to IBM¹s Dallas develo

Re: EVALBLOK and RELEASEing it

> EPLIST isn't a easy enough. EPLIST IS easy enough. :-( Leland

Re: New RACF passwords

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 10:03 EST, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Slurpd is a very effective way to replicate a LDAP database into another LDAP. The user password is in RACF, not in LDAP, so slurpd won't replicate a password. You have to use something like IBM Tivoli Directory Int

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

Maybe, it depends on IBM sending you a guy with system z smarts and exposure or a P guy. IBM is a two headed beast when it comes to selling virtualization solutions. I've spoken with many an IBMer right up to the executive level about this problem. Put a floor on the System z market and a ceil

Re: Shark Retiring

Our DASD Storage Management folks always contract with the vendor of the DASD to scrub it before it leaves our floor. If I am not mistaken, they require certain performance guarantees that can be verified and make sure that a good sized bond is posted. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original

EVALBLOK and RELEASEing it

Let's say I have an external REXX function that needs to return more data than there's space for in the default EVALBLOK that's provided by CMS. Allocating a new one and storing it's addr in the EPLIST isn't a easy enough. But, the should the original be CMSSTOR RELEASEd? Not doing so causes mem

Re: Shark Retiring

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 04:21 EST, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would hope the DASD subsystem also has some facility that implements > what's required in the device to wipe out data. I've got calls into Storage people to tell me where The Documentation is on how to decommiss

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 03:35 EST, "Les Geer (607-429-3580)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The actual APAR/PTFs to watch for are: > > For TCP/IP: > PK65850 / UK40952 > PK73085 / UK40952 > > Yes, one PTF will get you the fix for both APARs. The PTF is not yet > available in RETAIN however you

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

Contact your IBM z/sales person (I know they are harder to find than hens teeth now days) if you can find a good one they will be able to provide you with many studies on the subject. Maybe the most compelling of all is IBM's green effort. IBM itself expects to save a billion dollars by moving t

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

>From the announcement, you need to watch for the PTF for APAR PK65850. >When it is available, it will drag along five additional PTFs, two for >TCP/IP and three for CMS. You will need all six to make it go. > The actual APAR/PTFs to watch for are: For TCP/IP: PK65850 / UK40952 PK73085 / UK40952

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Steve Mitchell wrote: > Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of > the intricacies of the budgeting process. Here in short is what I've been > tasked with: The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX (AIX) > Admin group last year a

Re: VSAM for VM Program Directory

I have the hard copy here. Dated 07/27/95 GI10-8151-00 Version 6 Release 1.0 (Hee hee) For Use with VM/ESA 2.1.0 Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 ext 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

Now I am disillusioned. I thought you were one of them. Regards, Richard Schuh > Don't ask me when 0901 will > appear. Only the gods know that and they haven't Spoken to me. > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott >

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:57:11 -0600, Steve Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of >the intricacies of the budgeting process. Here in short is what I've be en >tasked with: The support of our linux guests was moved to the

Re: VSAM for VM Program Directory

I do. I'll email it to you. Ron On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Crispin Hugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody got a copy of this or know where I can get one ? Can't seem to find > it anywhere > > > > Crispin Hugo > Systems Programmer, Macro 4 > > >

VSAM for VM Program Directory

Anybody got a copy of this or know where I can get one ? Can't seem to find it anywhere Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Servic

Lu Dan will be out of office during 12/5 to 12/17.

I will be out of the office starting 2008-12-05 and will not return until 2008-12-17. I will take a long vacation from 12/5 to 12/17, during that period, I will try to check email and response you everyday, except 12/10-14 as I am not sure whether the internet is accessible. During my absence,

Re: z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

See: http://www.linuxvm.org/present/SHARE110/S9206uc.pdf This was a user who went the other way (AIX->Linux on z). On 12/9/08 2:57 PM, "Steve Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of > the intricacies of the budgeting pro

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 02:37 EST, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How long does it take before a PTF makes it to an RSU tape? The general answer is "It depends." If we get enough orders for it, it goes on the RSU. If it is new function, it typically goes on the RSU. If it is imp

z/VM Linux Cost effectiveness

Having been a technician my entire career I don't posses much knowledge of the intricacies of the budgeting process. Here in short is what I've been tasked with: The support of our linux guests was moved to the UNIX (AIX) Admin group last year about this time. They are now suggesting we move al

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 02:34 EST, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like compiling Linux 390 from source and installing it might be > easier than getting SSL on CMS :) LOL. Don't let your ears fool you! The first time is the hardest. You have to hack your way through the thick

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

>>> On 12/9/2008 at 2:30 PM, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Sounds like compiling Linux 390 from source and installing it might be > easier > than getting SSL on CMS :) Umm, no. Trust me on that one. Not even close. Mark Post

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

How long does it take before a PTF makes it to an RSU tape? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Woehr Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support Alan Alt

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

Alan Altmark wrote: When it is available, it will drag along five additional PTFs, two for TCP/IP and three for CMS. You will need all six to make it go. Sounds like compiling Linux 390 from source and installing it might be easier than getting SSL on CMS :) -- Jack J. Woehr# F

Re: PTF providing CMS based SSL support

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 12:19 EST, Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will the expected PTF that will provide the CMS based SSL support be > announced in an IBM announcement or here or will I need to look on > IBMLINK or somewhere every day to see if it is available. Supposedly it > is g

Re: Shark Retiring

Our DASD Storage Management folks usually resort to having a bonded and trusted vendor do the secure erase. Our z/OS systems are usually too loaded to take on the task. Regards, Richard Schuh > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

PTF providing CMS based SSL support

Will the expected PTF that will provide the CMS based SSL support be announced in an IBM announcement or here or will I need to look on IBMLINK or somewhere every day to see if it is available. Supposedly it is going to be available this month. Jim -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 59

Re: IFL consumption

Historical note. This isn't IFL cpu consumption--IFL's hadn't been invented yet. I remember back in the late 80's or so, running on a maxed out 3090, the CP IND would show 101% CPU utilization. It may have been a rounding error, but I think it was CP's way of saying, "I'm totally maxed out.

Re: Web servers for VM

On 12/9/08 10:30 AM, "Alan Altmark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TcpSStatus contains the state information maintainted by the stack in > cooperation with the SSL server. I wanted to know if the state > information it returns it is sufficient to meet the needs of Mr. > Ackerman's programmers. If

Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

Watch out who you are calling Grandpa! It could be taken as age discrimination. (Why am I complaining? One of my 3 grandkids graduated from high school last June and the other two are due to graduate in June 2010.) Regards, Richard Schuh > even if is just a dumb old format like Grandpa used

Re: VSAM Segment

Copy/pasted From z/VM 5.1's SEGBLIST SEGDATA: :OBJNAME.CMSBAM :DEFPARMS.B0D-B37 SR :SPACE.DOSBAM :TYPE.SEG :OBJDESC.CMSBAM ME MBER OF THE DOSBAM SEGMENT SPACE :GT_16MB.NO :SEGREQ.DOSINST :PRODID.5VMCMS10 CMS :BLDPARMS.PPF(ZV M CMS DMSSBBAM) :OBJNAME.CMSDOS :DEFPARMS.B00-B0C SR :SPACE.DOSB

Re: VSAM Segment

Many thanks , Steven Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer Macro 4 Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121, Switchboard: +44 (0)1293 872000, Fax: +44 (0)1293 872001 Simply get more www.macro4.com Macro 4 plc Registered office:The Orangery, Turners Hill Road,

Re: VSAM Segment

DOSBAM DCSS-S N/A00A00 00BFF -- CMSVSAM DCSS-M N/A00A00 00A80 ER 00AF0 00AFF EW 00B94 00BFF SR CMSDOS DCSS-M N/A00B00 00B0C SR CMSBAM DCSS-M N/A00B0D 00B37 SR CMSAM

Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 08:23 EST, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But when you carve out the volume on your modern DASD subsystem, the > volume will look like there is no residual data on it that would be > read from it with normal channel programs? A second hand DS8000 you > pu

Re: IFL consumption

I believe that by default, a linux guest will process on only 1 IFL at a time. Multiple "CPU" statements to more than 1 IFL in vm's user direct will allow a guest to process on more than 1 IFL simultaneously. Bob McCarthy -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM O

Re: VSAM Segment

Sorry , z/VM 5.1 Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer Macro 4 Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121, Switchboard: +44 (0)1293 872000, Fax: +44 (0)1293 872001 Simply get more www.macro4.com Macro 4 plc Registered office:The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 4SS Reg

Re: Moving DASD to a new volume range

Make sure your old 7xxx range DASD is unavailable before you IPL your 8xxx copies or you will have duplicate volumes which would not be a good thing. Aria On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:49:19 -0600 Juarez, David T. (AITC) said: >Hi there z/VM gurus. We are going to move our z/VM 5.3 and Red Hat Linux >5.2

Re: IFL consumption

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Steve Mitchell wrote: > A z/VM LPAR with two IFL's: Can one Linux guest consume more than 50% of > the capacity ie can work be dispatched on more than one IFL? I cant > locate the proper written doc to confirm one way or the other > > > Steve Mitchell I don't have a docum

Re: VSAM Segment

For which release of z/VM? "Crispin Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 12/09/2008 10:06 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject VSAM Segment Would someone please be so kind as to send me the Segment

Re: Moving DASD to a new volume range

As with any backup process that is not aware of the underlying file systems, FDR could back up files in an inconsistent state (i.e. files are changing as they are being backed up, usually: not committed to DASD). Thus, ensure that the target backup volumes are not being used by any system when

Re: Compare VM files

Also, if you have the High Level Assembler installed, including the HLASM toolkit, then you have the superc (super compare) tool which you invoke with ASMFSUPC EXEC. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Philip. > > CMS has it's own built in COMPARE command fo

Re: IFL consumption

If it has more than 1 virtual cpu it can. Even if you have 1 virtual cpu, you will be dispatched on both, but you won't be able to consume more than 1 IFL's worth. Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive t

Re: Compare VM files

On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 08:53:42 -0600, Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >2) Cornell University's XCOMPARE packageit has many useful features (creating an >update file in CMS format, e.g.) and it's is more flexible and powerfu l than IBM's >COMPARE command. You can download it from here

IFL consumption

A z/VM LPAR with two IFL's: Can one Linux guest consume more than 50% of the capacity ie can work be dispatched on more than one IFL? I cant locate the proper written doc to confirm one way or the other Steve Mitchell Sr Systems Software Specialist Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas (785) 291-88

Format Linux mdisks only ONCE (security policies permitting)! Was: Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

Sidebar: So... you can format a non-fullpack (see: P.S. below) minidisk for a Linux server with ICKDSF (with as many levels of security cleansing as required) . Or you can even format it with CMS' FORMAT command (although not with "Mr. Clean" security cleansing; but see previous posts about an

VSAM Segment

Would someone please be so kind as to send me the Segment definitions for CMSVSAM , CMSAMS and DOSBAM Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer Macro 4 This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email

Moving DASD to a new volume range

Hi there z/VM gurus. We are going to move our z/VM 5.3 and Red Hat Linux 5.2 DASD volumes from address range 7xxx to 8xxx using FDR full volume physical backups/restores and keep the same volume labels. We will modify the system config file to vary online the 8xxx range and IPL off the new 8xxx

Re: Web servers for VM

On Tuesday, 12/09/2008 at 09:44 EST, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One idea: take a look at the OpenSSL API documentation. Since that seems to > be the de facto floor SSL implementation on every other platform, similar > capabilities would probably be desirable. If you're pressed for

Re: New RACF passwords

Slurpd is a very effective way to replicate a LDAP database into another LDAP. On 12/9/08 8:19 AM, "Rothman, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well actually we are looking into LDAP. However management prefer that the > LDAP live on Linux. > Our programmers use work station based tools and ha

Re: Compare VM files

Hi, Philip. CMS has it's own built in COMPARE command for comparing two CMS files. You can read its online help file via HELP COMPARE. There are also two good, free, CMS compare utilities available that address some of the shortcomings of the basic IBM COMPARE command: 1) Kris Buelen's (IBM

Re: Compare VM files

The COMPARE command provides a simpleminded way to determine if two files are different, but it gets easily confused. The XCOMPARE utility from Cornell (on many VM Workshop tapes) proves more sophisticated comparisons, including the ability to generate CMS UPDATE-compatible files (similar to the wa

Re: Web servers for VM

> Please take a look at the the TcpSStatus call in the TCP/IP Programming > Reference to see if it has the details you are wanting. That is one of > the APIs for which no C equivalent exists, though it is possible to use > the output of NETSTAT SOCKETS to convert a socket number to a connection >

Re: New RACF passwords

Then you have to go the LDAP way. For z/VM and z/OS everything remains stored in RACF, as I wrote earlier, LDAP is just a way to access these RACF data. The LDAP on z/VM and z/OS doesn't need a real full blown database, the RACF data isn't even replicated into LDAP. Consider LDAP on VM as a blac

Re: Shark Retiring

> > Then maybe break the pairs, swap the primaries and secondaries and rerun > the erase. To be clear, break the pairs only after they are fully synced. Ivica

Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 06:03 EST, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Since these are "user volumes" there is no value in doing CPFMTXA or >> ICKDSF FORMAT on them. When you hand the mini disk to Linux it wil

Re: Shark Retiring

To speed things up, you may also define primary and secondary pairs before you run ICKDSF with ERASEDATA. That will ease the load on the channels (or halve the time required to erase everything) and make the subsystem do extra work for you. Then maybe break the pairs, swap the primaries and seconda

Re: New RACF passwords

What's wrong with the use of LDAP? It is included free of charge in z/VM. Part of LDAP on z/VM and z/OS can be seen as a means to make the RACF database content available to LDAP clients. Example: ldapsrch -h 127.0.0.1 -D racfid=U80027,profiletype=user,cn=RACFVM -w U80027PW -L -b "racfid=U800

Re: New RACF passwords

Thanks for the replies. At this stage we are not looking into using LDAP. As far as RACF not providing an exit for this - there may not be an exit specifically for this but we did have a product (a couple of years ago) called SYNCOM that did this. If I recall correctly they used a combination of I

Re: Compare VM files

There is a replacement program from the old Waterloo Mods tapes that I have installed as XCOMPARE. It can detail the differences between two text files and if the files are standard source code, it can create either CMS UPDATE or IEBUPDTE control cards. /Tom Kern Philip Hitti wrote: > How to Comp

Re: [IBMTCP-L] X'302C'

Hi all, thanks for your help. But I mixed up my definitions between OSA2 and OSA3. I mixed definitions for a z990/OSA2 and z10/OSA3. What I found in the manuals and now understand hopefully is on an OSA2 all Names have to be the same, exept for OSA3. Those names must be unique. The problem is reso

Re: Shark Retiring

> > A process like rewriting data with different patterns is modeled after > traditional technology. We know at least of some DASD subsystems where > the remaining 24 rewrites would not cause writing at the same location > on a disk, and thus not achieve what you meant to do. Those funny > patterns

Re: Compare VM files

Have a look at my COMPARE package: http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?COMPARE (I see I should refresh it: the newest version makes it easier to start COMPAIR from withing FILELIST). 2008/12/9 Philip Hitti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How to Compare two VM file to know changes?? > R

Re: Shark Retiring

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A Q&D program to use the Data Secure Erase CCW for tapes is sufficient to > erase them. I would hope the DASD subsystem also has some facility that implements what's required in the device to wipe out data. A process like

Compare VM files

How to Compare two VM file to know changes?? Regards Philip

Re: CPFMTXA Multiple drives

On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 06:03 EST, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since these are "user volumes" there is no value in doing CPFMTXA or > ICKDSF FORMAT on them. When you hand the mini disk to Linux it will > have to format it anyway (unless you can flashcopy a similar device > that

Re: TRANS13 , IND$FILE and CA-TPX

On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 02:11 EST, "Horlick, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For my emulator (myExtra!) it works fine but fails for their emulator. However, > under SNA it works. And so I state again for the record: You must gather diagnostic data from CA-TPX to see the difference in

Re: New RACF passwords

On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 02:25 EST, Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been part of a team writing a redbook on the subject last > September/October. You need z/VM 5.4 with RACF and LDAP (included with z/VM) > and Tivoli IBM Tivoli Directory Integrator (ITDI, included in some Tivo

Re: Web servers for VM

On Sunday, 12/07/2008 at 09:40 EST, Alan Ackerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The most important thing they want to do is to make sure the the data was > actually encrypted. > > Otherwise, someone could have changed it, or stolen it. It seems probable > that knowing the > number of bits of enc

Re: Shark Retiring

On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 01:53 EST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only 6? In 1968, I saw a report that stated that the folks at > installation code CAD could read 7 levels deep. The result was that to > insure adequate safety, disks and tapes were not moved from a secure > site to

Re: New RACF passwords

On Monday, 12/08/2008 at 01:30 EST, "Rothman, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We currently have z/VM 520 with RACF 1.10 and will shortly upgrade to z/VM 540 > with the RACF feature for 540. > > We want to synchronize new passwords across a number of systems. > > I have looked thru the man