Bohnsack
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:52 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Cost accounting for Linux guest running under z/VM
My IBM management, 25 years ago, went by the same idea that all users
should pay a fixed fee. I finally convinced them that your way, i.e. a
smaller fixed fee
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that minute-by-minute usage of main memory could be accounted
> for in the same manor as CPU can be done if you start with the MONITOR
> data instead of the ACCOUNTING data. I think the current ACCOUNTING data
> is i
I think that minute-by-minute usage of main memory could be accounted
for in the same manor as CPU can be done if you start with the MONITOR
data instead of the ACCOUNTING data. I think the current ACCOUNTING data
is insufficient for a good chargeback system. Although with today's
LINUX workloads w
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Jim Bohnsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Writing the accounting code to handle the accounting records is no small
> task. I did it in the '80's and would share it except that that was 2 jobs
> ago and I almost certainly didn't keep any of it to share.
Writing c
I have done it 3 1/2 times. The first time was in FORTRAN under VM/370
R5. Two times at this job using paid-for products (VMAccount and
CA-JARS). Both were too much information for management and not enough
of the right information for me. The 1/2 time was much more recent
thanks to a special surve
My IBM management, 25 years ago, went by the same idea that all users
should pay a fixed fee. I finally convinced them that your way, i.e. a
smaller fixed fee and then incremental charges made sense. I used the
analogy of a hotel. When you walk into a Holiday Inn, you know that
there is some
onday, October 20, 2008 4:45 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Cost accounting for Linux guest running under z/VM
The best model is one I heard last week at the ibm conference. One large "well
known"
installation charges only for prime shift, with 3 different rates bas
The best model is one I heard last week at the ibm conference. One large "well known"
installation charges only for prime shift, with 3 different rates based on types of
service. All charges are based on resource consumption. With the usage charges and prime
shift only charges, users are convi
All of our current chargeback is a fixed fee based on platform (z being t
he
most expensive) and diskspace and number of users, just as if it were
another windows box they had to buy.
If I had my way, there would be a smaller fixed fee for setup based on
memory size, initial DASD and initial user
We are in the process of getting ready to add production Linux guest and we
need to know how you are charging back the customer for running Linux under
z/VM. We currently charge a fixed fee per month for small, medium and large
based on the size of the individual server's memory, cpu, and networ
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