Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-04-10 00:01 +0200), Benny Amorsen wrote: > Yes, you can in theory cause microbursting of UDP if you want. I am just > not sure which tool I would use to do that. Typical UDP tests like iperf > attempt to do perfect timing of packets so bursts are avoided, and they > seem to do a fairly go

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-09 Thread Benny Amorsen
Saku Ytti writes: > Obviously microbursts can (in both TCP or UDP) scenario happen without any > background traffic. Consider you're connected to 1GE port, testing another > host in 100M port, if you limit your rate to 100M, you still causes the > 100M port to congest, as incoming rate is always

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-04-09 15:03 +0200), Benny Amorsen wrote: > There will only be packet loss if you test while there is background > traffic on the link. If the only load is a perfect stream of UDP > packets, the buffers will not fill and no packets will be dropped. This is completely L4 agnostic though, T

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-09 Thread Benny Amorsen
Saku Ytti writes: > Microbursts will drop UDP has well, you'll experience this as packet loss > just the same, so you want to find value which has 0 packet loss. This same > number will indicate when TCP will start dropping (and reducing > window-size) There will only be packet loss if you test

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-04-08 23:29 +0200), Benny Amorsen wrote: > UDP tests can be too generous on the network. A stream of perfectly > spaced UDP packets will not show problems with microbursts. Almost all > bulk transfer protocols are TCP, so it is important to test with TCP. Microbursts will drop UDP has we

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-08 Thread Benny Amorsen
Saku Ytti writes: > This highlights the fact that you should not test network with TCP, always > UDP, with TCP there are so many things to go wrong which are not network > related, UDP is much more reliable indication that problem actually may be > in the network. UDP tests can be too generous o

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-04-08 13:44 +0200), Benny Amorsen wrote: > In my experience, you cannot trust iperf to not override the OS window > size. Explicit -w seems to be the only reliable solution. I remember one test I had, not long ago, where any -w value fared worse than no -w value. I never tsharked it, I j

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-08 Thread Benny Amorsen
Saku Ytti writes: > make sure with tshark what your actual window size is, don't trust iperf. > Best thing is to configure OS TCP stack to window scaling and dont touch > iperf window settings, I don't know why, but they just seem to break stuff. In my experience, you cannot trust iperf to not o

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-08 Thread Alex Arseniev
Use TCP Optimizer to increase WSCALE/RWIN on Windows hosts to achieve better TCP perf http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php Thanks Alex - Original Message - From: "Saku Ytti" To: Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Speed On (2013-04-08 03:46 +02

Re: [j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-04-08 03:46 +0200), Johan Borch wrote: > of a single session with a RTT of only 8ms? The performance is the same if > I use 2 switches and the clients directly connected as if i use routers > between. Any idea what it could be? bw * delay = window so window / delay = bw 64k*8 / 0.008

[j-nsp] Speed

2013-04-07 Thread Johan Borch
Hi This issue is somewhat off topic :) I have a 1Gbps wavelenght from a supplier (1310), the RTT is about 8ms and whatever I do I can't get more than 25-40 Mbps from a single session (iperf, 64K ws, 2 x windows 8, same result with linux clients, same with http and ftp tests). I can get up to 1Gbp

Re: [j-nsp] Speed/Duplex Issue

2010-03-24 Thread Paul Stewart
> Did you hard-code the speed/duplex setting on both the Juniper and Cisco switches, or just the Juniper's? > We've been happy with auto-nego'ing all connections, including with upstreams. Life has been much easier going that route. I can't remember the last time anything good came out of hard-cod

Re: [j-nsp] Speed/Duplex Issue

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 08:50:01 pm Paul Stewart wrote: > When I did the configuration I set the ether-options for > 100/full ... most of the ports are facing Cisco > switches. All the ports that were hard coded would not > come up at all - the minute I removed the ether-options > they came

[j-nsp] Speed/Duplex Issue

2010-03-23 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi folks... We just cut in another couple of EX4200's into production overnight. These are the first deployments that don't have pure GigE ports - several ports 100/full. When I did the configuration I set the ether-options for 100/full ... most of the ports are facing Cisco switches. All