Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Andy Tai
--- Colin Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 20:07 11/03/2002 -0800, Andy Tai wrote: > >While this license probably is open source, it is > >misnamed (by using the term "BSD" in its name > >Of course this isn't a BSD license; if I wanted a > BSD license, I'd be using the BSD license. T

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread phil hunt
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 3:53 pm, Colin Percival wrote: > At 15:37 12/03/2002 +, phil hunt wrote: > >OSD, para 1: The license shall not restrict any party from > >selling or giving away the software [...] > > > >License, 3 (c): The license under which the derivative work > >is distributed mus

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
> I didn't define "Definitions", either. > I have no legal training, No legal training required for discussion here. And according to Larry, if you have legal training, there is some discussion you should not be doing here. :-) > but I thought it would be clear that > "Modification and

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Colin Percival
At 11:19 12/03/2002 -0500, Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: >2. Except possibly for the copyleft clause 4c, the license >fails to state that the terms apply to everyone receiving >a copy of the software. Is this a problem? I rather assumed that such a statement would be included in the copyrigh

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
OSD-related issues that I see 1. Someone already pointed out the OSD #1 issue. If the license doesn't explicitly permit selling copies, then copyright law reserves the right to the author. 2. Except possibly for the copyleft clause 4c, the license fails to state that the terms apply to everyone

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread John Cowan
Colin Percival scripsit: > I don't personally see any problem here -- section 2 grants you > some rights, section 3 grants you some rights, section 4 grants > you some rights -- but would people be happier if I explicitly > pointed out that the three sections cover different actions, > and obviou

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Colin Percival
At 20:07 11/03/2002 -0800, Andy Tai wrote: >While this license probably is open source, it is >misnamed (by using the term "BSD" in its name). It is >not a BSD license because it does NOT always "permit >improvements to be used wherever they will help, >without idealogical or metallic constraint.

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread John Cowan
phil hunt scripsit: > My reading of the license and the OSD suggests to me that it > isn't. > > OSD, para 1: The license shall not restrict any party from > selling or giving away the software [...] > > License, 3 (c): The license under which the derivative work > is distributed must express

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Colin Percival
At 15:56 12/03/2002 +, phil hunt wrote: >On Tuesday 12 March 2002 1:16 am, Colin Percival wrote: > >To start with, the LGPL only applies to libraries. > >That's not true, you can license any code with it. Allow me to rephrase: The LGPL is intended for application to libraries. (And d

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread Colin Percival
At 15:37 12/03/2002 +, phil hunt wrote: >OSD, para 1: The license shall not restrict any party from >selling or giving away the software [...] > >License, 3 (c): The license under which the derivative work >is distributed must expressly prohibit the distribution of >further derivative works. >

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread phil hunt
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 1:16 am, Colin Percival wrote: > At 11 Mar 2002 20:57:24 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] resent my email to this > > mailing list and added the line: > >[ Please discuss this license. Is he reinventing the LGPL? ] > >No, I'm not. > >To start with, the LGPL only applies

Re: Discuss: BSD Protection License

2002-03-12 Thread phil hunt
On Tuesday 12 March 2002 4:07 am, Andy Tai wrote: > While this license probably is open source, My reading of the license and the OSD suggests to me that it isn't. OSD, para 1: The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software [...] License, 3 (c): The licens