> I know of 323 IXes today.
> http://www.pch.net/documents/data/exchange-points/ep-in-addrs.xls
Good to see AusBONE there, however it does seem that your recent public
comments on AusBONE may need some clarification, specially when you have
not bothered to seek any information from the people r
> you may want to investigate the likely impact of the
> "strategic peering initative". this will surely
> have an
> influence on where smaller providers decide to
> maintain
> a presence. this, in turn, will dictate which ixp
> locations/companies will survive.
>
Does anyone have any new in
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:53:23AM -0800, Jon Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too
> many today and some should be consolidated or shut
> down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where
> do you put them? Who decides where to buil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > which is linked from the www.ep.net site... :)
> >
> > But:
> >
> >
>
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Protocols/IP/IPng/IPv6_Internet_Excha
nges/
> >
> > Isn't listed there though :(
> >
> > And it lists afaik all, native IPv6 E
> > >
> > which is linked from the www.ep.net site... :)
>
> But:
>
> http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Protocols/IP/IPng/IPv6_Internet_Excha
> nges/
>
> Isn't listed there though :(
>
> And it lists afaik all, native IPv6 Exchange Points... more IPv6 stuff
> in the directory above it.
"Streiner, Justin" wrote:
>
> > If there is a need for new IXs, where do you put them? Who decides
> > where to build a new IX and how do you get service providers to show up
> > there once it is built?
>
> These days, that can be a chicken-and-egg question. There really isn't a
> formalized p
> > I know of 323 IXes today.
> > http://www.pch.net/documents/data/exchange-points/ep-in-addrs.xls
>
> Well, this is one place where we diverge... :)
> I'd state that there are 323 prefixes in use at exchanges
> but that there are somewhat fewer switch fabrics in pl
Yo, Bill (sleepy)
> I know of 323 IXes today.
> http://www.pch.net/documents/data/exchange-points/ep-in-addrs.xls
Well, this is one place where we diverge... :)
I'd state that there are 323 prefixes in use at exchanges
but that there are somewhat fewer switch fabrics in
> > you know who to yell at.
>
> Until MFN sells them in coming months in their attempts to pay off
> billions of dollars of debt...
No change is expected in "who you yell at if PAIX isn't doing a good job."
(That is, "me.")
--
Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
President, PAIX.Net Inc. (NASD:MFN
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Andy Dills wrote:
> This industry is so far in the shitter...so many of the big names,
> including players from the early days, are in chapter 11 or about to be.
I'm honestly surprised that I haven't had someone try to offer me a
'genuine steal' on 20-year IRUs in awhile ;-
On 19 Mar 2002, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> > As for your question re: PAIX, it is a well-engineered exchange point that
> > has been around for a long time, with an extensive member list. That,
> > plus whatever revenue stream PAIX has would probably make an attractive
> > acquisition for several co
> Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too
> many today and some should be consolidated or shut
> down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where
> do you put them? Who decides where to build a new IX
> and how do you get service providers to show up there
> Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too
> many today and some should be consolidated or shut
> down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where
> do you put them? Who decides where to build a new IX
> and how do you get service providers to show up there
> once it is built?
S
> At 12:24 pm -0500 19/3/02, Streiner, Justin wrote:
> >http://www.ep.net/ lists many exchange points around the world, large and
> >small.
>
> And for European IXPs there is now an association:
>
> http://www.euro-ix.net/
>
> Which has details of the member exchanges.
>
> f
>
> As for your question re: PAIX, it is a well-engineered exchange point that
> has been around for a long time, with an extensive member list. That,
> plus whatever revenue stream PAIX has would probably make an attractive
> acquisition for several companies.
Thank you for those kind words. An
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
Hi,
I don't know if the question was mainly intended towards the american
based IXes. If so, then the below may be of little interest. If not,
please read on.
There are scenarios when IXes are built and maintained by a non-profit
bo
At 12:24 pm -0500 19/3/02, Streiner, Justin wrote:
>http://www.ep.net/ lists many exchange points around the world, large and
>small.
And for European IXPs there is now an association:
http://www.euro-ix.net/
Which has details of the member exchanges.
f
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jon Bennett wrote:
> Is there a need for additional IXs or are there too
> many today and some should be consolidated or shut
> down altogether? If there is a need for new IXs, where
> do you put them? Who decides where to build a new IX
> and how do you get service provider
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Chris Adams wrote:
> I would think that, depending on who bought/merged with who, traffic may
> decrease as the networks are merged. After all, there was some amount
> of traffic between those networks that probably passed through an
> exchange point somewhere that is now b
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Jon Bennett wrote:
>
> > 3) As time passes, more providers either understand
> > the benefits of
> > peering at an exchange point versus paying
> > ${UPSTREAM} to provide transit
> > for all of their traffic, or their traffic levels
> > grow to the point (see
> > point 1) wh
> 3) As time passes, more providers either understand
> the benefits of
> peering at an exchange point versus paying
> ${UPSTREAM} to provide transit
> for all of their traffic, or their traffic levels
> grow to the point (see
> point 1) where peering at ${EXCHANGE} begins to make
> financial s
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:46:57PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
>
> This hasn't happened. However, the reasoning still stands: why buy rack
> space in a remote place and go through all kinds of trouble to install a
> router there, if you can easily use some kind of switched/multiplexed
> s
### On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:46:57 +0100 (CET), Iljitsch van Beijnum
### <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> casually decided to expound upon Jon Bennett
### <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the following thoughts about "Re: Internet
### Exchange Questions":
IvB> This hasn't happened. However, t
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Jon Bennett wrote:
> I am a business school student studying the state of the telecom sector
> and specifically the Internet infrastructure. I am currently trying to
> understand the role the IX such as PAIX, Equinix, Telehouse, etc.. will
> play in the future where the numb
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 04:40:20PM -0800,
Jon Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
a message of 21 lines which said:
> buy PAIX and if there is a way to continue to make money selling
> cross connects in the future.
Not all exchange points are built with the idea of making money. Some
are grat
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 10:53:04PM -0500,
Streiner, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
a message of 72 lines which said:
> Most providers lack the levels of traffic or the geographic footprint to
> peer with the big guys (UUNET, Sprint, AT&T, CW, Genuity, etc), who
> typically build private int
$author = "Streiner, Justin" ;
>
> it stands to reason that the amount of traffic present at an exchange point
> should remain relatively constant on average, and probably grow.
someone already mentioned the possibility of traffic that previously
traversed the IX now being interprovider due t
Once upon a time, Streiner, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> My thoughts on the subject are:
> 1) While the number of service providers (ISPs, MSPs, ASPs, for marketing buzzword>SPs, etc) appears to be on the the decline, it
> stands to reason that the amount of traffic present at an exchange
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Jon Bennett wrote:
> I am a business school student studying the state of the telecom sector
> and specifically the Internet infrastructure. I am currently trying to
> understand the role the IX such as PAIX, Equinix, Telehouse, etc.. will
> play in the future where the numb
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