Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread Ali Tait
Good stuff! Yes,I've heard a Duet via analogue out for a quick listen and I wasn't impressed.Interesting it's very close to the Touch via digi out. -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?u

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread mdconnelly
Interesting! I received my Touch last night and within 5 minutes had it playing. It took me longer to get it out of the box than to get it playing music! The first thing I did was plug the Touch into my Oracle DAC1000 right next to my Duet, synced the Touch with the Duet, level-matched them and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread Ali Tait
Sorry,typo,I'm doing this on my phone.It's the CD62. -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77145 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread Gazjam
cool, sounding better and better! What arcam? couldnt find a cd63! -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77145

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread Ali Tait
Just the CD 63,but I also have a Marantz CD94 MKII that has had it's DAC section removed so is just a transport,and I'd say the Touch sounds better than it. -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/mem

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread Gazjam
Good stuff Ali.. what Arcam you got again? Just trying to get a comparative feel for the Touches Analogue out quality.. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: h

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-13 Thread Ali Tait
Interesting stuff guys.I have an Audionote Dac Zero,with which the touch sounds substantially better than via it's analogue out.The analogue is still good,and both sound better than my Arcam with the dac. -- Ali Tait Ali T

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread Gazjam
me either! :) all smilies firmly in place.. And your right, if you can directly switch between sources it's alway better. What surprised me a wee bit was the similar sound quality between the sb3 and the Touch via digital out. I think m modded beresford caiman dac is quite transport sensitive go

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread mlsstl
Merlinwerks;533788 Wrote: > Easy guys :) > > I was definitely not questioning the results, actually I'm not > surprised by them. I just wanted to confirm that both tests (SB3 vs. > Lavry and Lavry vs. Touch) were done the same way. I really believe > that if more people had the ability to insta

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread Merlinwerks
mlsstl;533700 Wrote: > > I will reiterate that this is just my experience and other people can > and will reach different conclusions. I only compared them for the > purpose of making an equipment choice for myself. I make no > representation of scientific rigor or universal application. Gazjam

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread Phil Leigh
mlsstl;533516 Wrote: > Sorry I wasn't clear. Let me try again. > > 1. The Lavry sounds like the Lavry whether I'm using the SB3 or the > Touch as the digital source for the DA-10. > > 2. As such, my original comments about the analog output of the Touch > compared to the Lavry still stand. On

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread Gazjam
give the guy a break! thats twice he's said it was all IMHO etc etc :) Im sure as the days go on there will be more equally as good audio (not audioPHILE ;)) comparisons. Id be checking the Audiophile forums for that. -- Gazjam

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread mlsstl
Merlinwerks;533696 Wrote: > Out of curiosity, when you previously compared the analog out of the SB3 > vs Lavry, did you conduct the test the same way as the comparison of the > Lavry vs Touch? i.e. Level matched and with the ability to -instantly- > switch between the two. Yes. -- mlsstl ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-12 Thread Merlinwerks
Out of curiosity, when you previously compared the analog out of the SB3 vs Lavry, did you conduct the test the same way as the comparison of the Lavry vs Touch? i.e. Level matched and with the ability to -instantly- switch between the two. -- Merlinwerks ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread mlsstl
mdconnelly;533473 Wrote: > So... you mean you couldn't tell any difference between the Touch with > Lavry DAC versus the Touch with analog outs? (earlier you said that > the Lavry was quite an improvement when coupled with the Sb3 so I want > to make sure I understand what you mean by 'with eith

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread pippin
Boulderguy;533028 Wrote: > The touchscreen is obvious of course. Specifically, I'm curious about > things like this - > It's in my bathroom now and I love it there because it's the only one of my Squeezeboxes on which I really don't _have to_ use a remote - which is what I need in a bathroom.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread andynormancx
Boulderguy;533028 Wrote: > Does it eliminate the 2-10 sec delays so common with the server? Having > the music collection reside on the SB is my primary motivation for > getting a touch, is it worth it?! 2-10 second delays, what are you running your server on ?? -- andynormancx Yes, it will.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread mlsstl
Gazjam;533451 Wrote: > bloody hell.. > I had heard the Touch sounded goodbut thats a great Dac its up > against! Keep in mind that is just my opinion. While I love good music played on a fine stereo, I've never been one to chase that last fraction of [insert buzz word here]. I would probab

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread mdconnelly
mlsstl;533469 Wrote: > I couldn't tell any difference at all using the Lavry with either > source. So... you mean you couldn't tell any difference between the Touch with Lavry DAC versus the Touch with analog outs? (earlier you said that the Lavry was quite an improvement when coupled with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread mlsstl
mdconnelly;533449 Wrote: > But what about the Touch & Lavry compared to the Touch with analog out? I couldn't tell any difference at all using the Lavry with either source. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimd

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Gazjam
or all in the head? :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77145 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Sakkerju
mlsstl;533436 Wrote: > ...However, I'm sure others will disagree with that thinking, but that's > fine by me. When I have to strain to hear the difference between two > pieces of equipment, that's a sign for me to let go of the issue and > just enjoy the music. And fact is, that in the end, it i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Gazjam
bloody hell.. I had heard the Touch sounded goodbut thats a great Dac its up against! -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sh

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Kevin Haskins
mlsstl;533436 Wrote: > I've used a SB3 with a Lavry DA10 DAC for the past couple of years as my > primary music source. > > The Touch arrived Friday and I spent quite a bit of time the past > couple of days listening to the Touch. I level-matched the SB3/Lavry > output with the Touch and synced

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread mdconnelly
mlsstl;533436 Wrote: > > In comparing the Touch analog out to the SB3/Lavry, the difference is > extremely subtle in my book. I have to strain to hear the difference. I > am very impressed and will probably end up selling my Lavry. In > audiophile-land, the Touch has no right to sound as good as

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread mlsstl
erland;533356 Wrote: > I've only tried the analogue outputs, as I've understood there might be > a bigger difference on the digital outputs as long as you feed them > into a good DAC. I don't have an external DAC and the built-in one in > my Sherwood RVD-9090 receiver isn't good enough to justify

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread starfury
JJZolx;533422 Wrote: > ??? > > Which one sounds better to you? I'll have to wait until my Touch ships to find that out. :) -- starfury starfury's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37465 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread JJZolx
starfury;533418 Wrote: > My AVR (Yamaha) uses a Burr Brown 192kHz/24-bit DAC. > > I've been scratching my head on which to use: Analog or digital out > from Touch? > ??? Which one sounds better to you? -- JJZolx Jim

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread starfury
My AVR (Yamaha) uses a Burr Brown 192kHz/24-bit DAC. I've been scratching my head on which to use: Analog or digital out from Touch? I have no external DAC. -- starfury starfury's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/m

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread erland
Gazjam;533292 Wrote: > SLIGHTLY better? > > A few of the Beta testers over on the Audiophile forum reported that > the digital output on the Touch was SIGNIFICANTLY better than the > SB3...to the extent that if you were using a DAC and were choosing > between the Trasporter and the Touch.. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Gazjam
erland;533241 Wrote: > 1. > Audio quality is comparable or even slightly better on the Touch > depending on what amplifier/speaker/DAC you connect it to. > > SLIGHTLY better? Im using my (well, I WAS..) SB3 connected to a Beresford Caiman Dac and sounded sublime to me. The touch screen and th

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread erland
Boulderguy;533028 Wrote: > Testers, what is your subjective opinion on how the Touch improves on > the SB3 in terms of practical, everyday use? > 1. Audio quality is comparable or even slightly better on the Touch depending on what amplifier/speaker/DAC you connect it to. 2. IR control is sti

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Sakkerju
Neither my Flickr nor Facebook picture albums can be shown by the Touch. My SQB Radio has no problems with it, so settings/account are fine. I (try) use these as 'when stopped' screensaver...start loading...error: Could not retrieve imagefile. Check player's network connectivity -- Sakkerju S

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-11 Thread Sakkerju
Neither my Flickr nor Facebook picture albums can be shown by the Touch. My SQB Radio has no problems with it, so settings/account are fine. I (try) use these as 'when stopped' screensaver...start loading...error: Could not retrieve imagefile. Check player's network connectivity -- Sakkerju S

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-10 Thread Phil Leigh
I wish it came in two parts with a larger screen and a seperate docking station+charging cradle...bit like an iPad :-) The best thing about it is its sound quality. Most of the things I don't like about the interface could be fixed in the software - eventually. Now if it had 4-6x the CPU power..

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-10 Thread Phil Leigh
I wish it came in two parts with a larger screen and a seperate docking station+charging cradle...bit like an iPad :-) The best thing about it is its sound quality. Most of the things I don't like about the interface could be fixed in the software - eventually. Now if it had 4-6x the CPU power..

[SlimDevices: Touch] How well does the Touch work?

2010-04-10 Thread Boulderguy
Testers, what is your subjective opinion on how the Touch improves on the SB3 in terms of practical, everyday use? The touchscreen is obvious of course. Specifically, I'm curious about things like this - How does the use of a USB HD compare to using the SB server software? Does it eliminate t