Re: [313]Build up/Breakdown
I just saw Claude Young last night, and let me tell you it was unbelievable. The beat juggling, along with the numerous cut-up and EQed tracks were exactly what DJing is all about: taking good songs, and making new ones by assembling them together in creative ways. It was a one and a half hour trip into the land of Claude. If you haven't seen him on his current US leg of his tour, look out for flyers. regards, Dennis From: "FRED MCMURRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]Build up/Breakdown Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:14:45 GMT Re: i spun techno at a house party and a girl told me that she didn't like it because there were no buildups or break downs. i think she just wanted to hear cheesey synth and snare rolls. Claude Young was able to juggle the beats so that it imitated buildups and breakdowns but not of the insane type of ongoing snare rolls heard in Eurotrash. But to see and hear him make breakbeats outta 2 4/4 tracks was amazing. Something to aspire to. Fred From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'James Bucknell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313]In the Ghetto (was Richie Hawtin is the future of Detroi t Techno.) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:12:22 -0700 i spun techno at a house party and a girl told me that she didn't like it because there were no buildups or break downs. i think she just wanted to hear cheesey synth and snare rolls. jeff > -Original Message- > From: James Bucknell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:48 AM > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc:313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313]In the Ghetto (was Richie Hawtin is the future of > Detroit Techno.) > > > > neither the ghetto nor the suburbs are the future of techno. > > in the ghetto people don't listen to techno--they think it's white boy > music > from england. > the kids in the suburbs don't listen to techno. they listen to trance and > drum n > bass. > > in the u.s. techno will probably just continue to be the preserve of a > small > dedicated group. > > i'm putting my thoery to the test. i'm meant to spin at my block party in > harlem > on saturday. i figure i'm going to get hit with a flying bottle before i > mix out > of the first track. > james > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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[313]Build up/Breakdown
Re: i spun techno at a house party and a girl told me that she didn't like it because there were no buildups or break downs. i think she just wanted to hear cheesey synth and snare rolls. Claude Young was able to juggle the beats so that it imitated buildups and breakdowns but not of the insane type of ongoing snare rolls heard in Eurotrash. But to see and hear him make breakbeats outta 2 4/4 tracks was amazing. Something to aspire to. Fred From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'James Bucknell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313]In the Ghetto (was Richie Hawtin is the future of Detroi t Techno.) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:12:22 -0700 i spun techno at a house party and a girl told me that she didn't like it because there were no buildups or break downs. i think she just wanted to hear cheesey synth and snare rolls. jeff > -Original Message- > From: James Bucknell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:48 AM > To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc:313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313]In the Ghetto (was Richie Hawtin is the future of > Detroit Techno.) > > > > neither the ghetto nor the suburbs are the future of techno. > > in the ghetto people don't listen to techno--they think it's white boy > music > from england. > the kids in the suburbs don't listen to techno. they listen to trance and > drum n > bass. > > in the u.s. techno will probably just continue to be the preserve of a > small > dedicated group. > > i'm putting my thoery to the test. i'm meant to spin at my block party in > harlem > on saturday. i figure i'm going to get hit with a flying bottle before i > mix out > of the first track. > james > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313]In the Ghetto (was Richie Hawtin is the future of Detroi t Techno.)
i spun techno at a house party and a girl told me that she didn't like it because there were no buildups or break downs. i think she just wanted to hear cheesey synth and snare rolls. jeff > -Original Message- > From: James Bucknell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313]In the Ghetto (was Richie Hawtin is the future of > Detroit Techno.) > > > > neither the ghetto nor the suburbs are the future of techno. > > in the ghetto people don't listen to techno--they think it's white boy > music > from england. > the kids in the suburbs don't listen to techno. they listen to trance and > drum n > bass. > > in the u.s. techno will probably just continue to be the preserve of a > small > dedicated group. > > i'm putting my thoery to the test. i'm meant to spin at my block party in > harlem > on saturday. i figure i'm going to get hit with a flying bottle before i > mix out > of the first track. > james > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: [313] Juan/Swayzak
i saw juan a few months ago in LA, and he trainwrecked once. i am pretty sure it had to do something with the fact that he was trying to take a hit off a bowl and spin at the same time. jeff > -Original Message- > From: L R [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 7:05 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Juan/Swayzak > > I saw Juan last week here in DC and while the tracks were great, the set > was > ruined by trainwreck after trainwreck. People were shaking their heads > and > leaving the floor. > > > i fail to understand those who disvalue the atkins experience, > >saying he's just a house dj now. sure, there were horns, funky bass > >lines,>harmonies, but i consider myself a techno man and it was a great > set > >(minus>the small problems with the second turntable at the beginning). > i'm > >still>feeling great more than an hour later. > > > >cheers. > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: [313] a few things
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 2:43 PM > To: '313' > Subject: [313] a few things > > hello, > > 1. does anybody have a discography for Steve Poindexter? Also, what is > that cat up to now? > [FC3 Richards] i just listenened to Old Skool on DJax and was quite impressed. i do not know how new this release is, just that it has come out in the last 2 months. and it is very old school sounding, and very good. all i have seen his name around is DJ'ing...he has been very busy just getting around and spinning at parties. jeff
Re: [313] experimentation
I still do not think that opening up a 606 and adding all of the retro fits and what not is experimenting. And my main question is how can your sculptures or installations represent something else? Thank you for taking the time to explain your work. I look forward to your reply. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: "synthetic detronik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] experimentation Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:35:44 GMT My point was simply that the term "experimental" has become over used >and stagnent in meaning. I am pushing for a more descriptive and in->depth analysis of what Micho is doing. alright, I was hopeing I could avoid typeing a long email, however, respectfully I must explain what I do. My visual arts i.e. video installations portray a microcosm of societies strangulation by mediated tactiles. For instance, my installations typically consist of larger then life television forms perverting the icon of tv as a "demi-god" type alter (like the huge collisiums with monolithic statues of our heros in greek games) But now, its "techno" and its in a dark club with nowhere to hide, because the room has been wired with cameras that bring the public into the same arena as the performer. The tactiles of a mediated installation reaches out captures the performance, washes to the crowd picking out people and electronically transferring them to the monolithic archs with the performers, because thats what its all about, the music, the soul, and the reaction of the crowd. the experiment:: destroy the common "boundry" between performer and crowd, individualize the people from the masses and project them onto a mass communicative device. I simply overly exagerate what society does. My audio experimentations are very experimentive in my opinion. You can decide for yourself. I take drum machines and toys amongst other instruments and open them up. The experiment is to disect them, find the sound creating areas and give them the ability to be organic and have the option of having interaction by the human environment. i.e. take the tr-606, my most extensive experiment. I gave it the ability to have control by human interaction to alter the sounds which were not controllable before. The sounds are then taken to another level where say the hihats can fluctuate in pitch by a cv in that controls the variance of the filter with every pulse transmitted to that. The toys are given an alternate brain which makes them do different things then what they were intended. The sound is then transmitted to the audience by means of live interaction with balanceing multiple drum machines with toys and various sounds. I make the beats live and manipulate the sounds live. the experiment:: sure its been done, but not to the degree im taking it. now a days alot of people presequence, preprogram, presample, pre this and pre that. I aint doin it. its all live baby, just manipluations of cycleing patterns and makeing that "repetition" sound as organic as possible with as little digital as possible with a degree of interaction previously unobtainable. call it modern electro-jazz or whatever. so heres the scoop, my grand daddy was a scientist here in detroit many moons ago. he invented many forms of metallic paint and what later became known as napalm. sure paint had been around for years, he took it a step further and invented metallic paint for automobiles, and today, they still use it, he still gets paid for the patents. napalm was utilized in war, that was simply a defunct paint mixture he came up with that was highly combustionable. The Moral:: one must learn the rules to break the rules and take it a step further.. and reinventing is what it might be, but its another step in our evolution. experimental is experimentation, be it some simple thing to some complex thing, to each their own, as long as its experimentation to the one experimenting, then its experimental. much respect, :micho aka: non-compliant ::create : recreate : alter::: ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info:: t: 313.850.7345 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom
I think the worst thing would be if everyone agreed with me. Then there would be no growth. I just want everyone to know that I am not placing judgements on anyone one or anything. I am just wanting in-depth discourse on the subjects I care most about, techno & art (although I do not draw distinctions between the two. Jared Wilson OBSOLETE RECORDS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Techno Visual Arts + sonic boom Date: 19 Jul 2000 21:25:53 - Well, I must say Jared has gone right to one of the central dilemmas of philosophy. Do words have a common meaning or do they mean only what we individually say they do, like we were living in Wonderland. "experimental" has a scientific and technical meaning that is quite precise, but "experimental" also has a commonly understood meaning or range of meanings, for example in music. Fred Frith is pretty experimental in his approach, I'd say. Or Lee Perry. Or a good deal of electronic music, even electronic dance music. You can be dogmatic about this if you like, Jared, but don't expect us to go along with it just because you say so. phred Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Re: [313] Re: Out of print UR releases
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Re: Out of print UR releases
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:09:45 +0100 > To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > From: "Stewart Moroney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Out of print UR releases > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <> > and are there any other > rare/limited UR releases that I've not heard of. I've never seen 'UR my people' mentioned which is a UK (I think) white label from their rave-influenced days and sounded pretty hot at the time, Power Move ep which is a 4 track on Shockwave records though I never got any good reaction on that, also Hardwax which is on clear vinyl and is maybe the best of the rave ones. I think Fury and Piranha (also Kamikaze in that series) are not so hard to get hold of (maybe Ambient soho if you are in London) and are slightly later than the two above (92?) and a bit more deep style iirc. Some of these releases are pretty dodgy though - I think all the stuff you'll want to keep is on UR label itself except maybe SID if you can find them.
Re: [313] a few things
Mike Taylor wrote: 1. does anybody have a discography for Steve >Poindexter? Also, what is that cat up to now? I'm working on it. Since his resurrection on ACV records, he's been workin with Djax... Check www.djax.nl for more... Proffit Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] track i.d (by Simon Conway)
Caltrop wrote: and what's the track after spacer woman? It reminds me of "popcorn" and laser -"his name is >charly". Don't know at the moment. I'll ask my "Italo specialist" friend about that. Proffit Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] 313 producers with mp3s
ewan, i like your material very much...in the next day or two i am going to be updating my "station" site and i will add one of your tracks. it is called 3rdwave... http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/56/3rdwave.html it has some of the best deep techno/IDM/dub, that you'll find on mp3.com...and it is all available for free...download or just streaming. Greg Malcolm Twine/Moniker/Twinesound Audio Productions -* http://www.personal.kent.edu/~mmercer/twine/# http://www.personal.kent.edu/~mmercer/moniker http://heftyrecords.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -* http://www.votenader.com From: "Ewan Jansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 313 producers with mp3s Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:57:30 GMT if annyone is in the mood for streaming some relaxing stuff check out the first couple of tracks on my mp3 page - www.mp3.com/ewan i have also compiled quality mp3s from lots of different artists - www.mp3.com/stations/deepexcursions - www.mp3.com/stations/deephouse - www.mp3.com/deeptechno - they all deserve a listen i believe. i'd be eager to hear any comments or hear from other producers on the mp3 site. ciao, ewan jansen Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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313 producers with mp3s
if annyone is in the mood for streaming some relaxing stuff check out the first couple of tracks on my mp3 page - www.mp3.com/ewan i have also compiled quality mp3s from lots of different artists - www.mp3.com/stations/deepexcursions - www.mp3.com/stations/deephouse - www.mp3.com/deeptechno - they all deserve a listen i believe. i'd be eager to hear any comments or hear from other producers on the mp3 site. ciao, ewan jansen Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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re:(313) a few things + a little experiment
hey, you can find lots of WSB audio @ www.wdzr.com/wsb/wsb.htm also has links to lots of other realted sites. ...as for 'experimental thoughts' to make your Mud Wresling proposal truly experimental we could strap mic's to the buts of the wrestlers and process the pick up thru a home made program that could layer and randomise the sounds. Then we could also use the sound of the roaring mullets (did you know this is some kind of strange mating ritual)in the audience for percussionMy hypothesis is that the resulting sound would be somthing similar to EP7 poorly beatmixed with chicks on speed. U see it is becuase of my intricate understanding of the world of wrestling (not to mention my extensive studies on the mating rituals of the mullet) I am able to take this knowledge and expand on it, thereby formulating an hypothesis that transcends the seriousness of such a thread and plunges it into the mud that is absolute silliness. See experimenting is all about fun! Just ask WSB. out. 3jane np.Sextant - Herbie H.(is this an experiment?) Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com
