Re: [313] trance - vibe killer?
I think what you have identified is an ideological aspect of dance/electronic music - there is a tier structure, cerebral Detroit techno, then DJ tool techno, then a further down trance, then right, right, right down NU NRG like Captain Tinrib. Maybe there is a semblance of tribalism here, but, hey, that's the nature of a subculture. I think what the other guys probably think is that trance has a million outlets, this is a space for a music that is increasingly marginalised - and endangered by trance (note how US houseers Danny Tenaglia and Deep Dish have changed to progressive in recent years). That's why people are gonna get defensive. When people say they hate trance here, there is a complex ideological, socio-cultural reason and emotional reason for it, it's not showing off. You could argue this point forever but it's just gonna make people upset and angry. There may well be some OK trance, but there are other forums for that. That's the point. You could go on those and ask them, why are all you (esp UK) trance cats heaping s**t on Detroit and US DJs? Why is it that even Carl Cox is finding it a little harder to play in the UK because techno is not deemed cool by the clubs who are jumping on the hard house bandbaggon?? Etc. >>If someone doesn't like a style of music I wouldn't call it following a >>trend. > > >its not a matter of liking one genre and disliking another. Its a matter of >vocalizing it to a point that you're simply beating your chest to show the >rest of the group how legit you are. To me, it looks like "see, see, i can >hate trance too. everyone, everyone, do you see me?" > >Get where i'm going with this now. > > >>Just b/c someone like techno and hates trance doesn't >>mean they are following any trend at all. > > >Again, i don't know if i'm going to respond to the rest of this, since >you're arguing grapefruit while i'm arguing skateboarding. > > > >>but this isn't other lists and trance >>for the majority isn't appreciated on this list>exceptions>but again I said majority...the topic of the list in Detroit >>techno and related subjects and it strives to keep that topic... > > >ok, so where does bleating 'i hate trance' multiple times have to do with >detroit techno then? > >Here's the statement that originally started all this: > >"I just wanted to let all of you know how violated the trance crap made me >feel ;)" > > >ok, do you see with this single statement where i'm coming from now? > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: [313] System 7 (Was trance - vibe killer?)
To change tack If ever there was an outfit that really bridged 'trance' and 'Detroit techno' (and ambient) in a dignified and tasteful and musical way, it's System 7, Steve Hillage's band. He worked with Mayday and Carl Craig in the early 90s. Anyone have any thoughts on their work? They are coming down here to play for the first time and it could be interesting, so it's topical. Also System 7's albums are being re-released through A-Wave, their own label. Power Of Seven and also the remix album System Express - home to the Plastikman (Richie Hawtin) remix of 'Alphawave' from 1995 have just been re-issued. Back in the day Hillage was in a progressive rock band, Gong, who experimented with electronic stuff and years later, after producing Simple Minds and Robyn Hitchcock, he was exposed to techno via the seminal Virgin/Ten comp and loved it and asked to meet May. And they connected because they had a mutual appreciation of Parliament and Weather Report, etc, etc.
Re: [313] trance - vibe killer?
If someone doesn't like a style of music I wouldn't call it following a trend. its not a matter of liking one genre and disliking another. Its a matter of vocalizing it to a point that you're simply beating your chest to show the rest of the group how legit you are. To me, it looks like "see, see, i can hate trance too. everyone, everyone, do you see me?" Get where i'm going with this now. Just b/c someone like techno and hates trance doesn't mean they are following any trend at all. Again, i don't know if i'm going to respond to the rest of this, since you're arguing grapefruit while i'm arguing skateboarding. but this isn't other lists and trance for the majority isn't appreciated on this listbut again I said majority...the topic of the list in Detroit techno and related subjects and it strives to keep that topic... ok, so where does bleating 'i hate trance' multiple times have to do with detroit techno then? Here's the statement that originally started all this: "I just wanted to let all of you know how violated the trance crap made me feel ;)" ok, do you see with this single statement where i'm coming from now? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] www.detroit-history.com
In a message dated 12/16/00 11:11:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What is Entrepreneur Magazine and where is it published - I would dearly love to read the K Hand interview in the January edition. Anyone help? Cheers >> Stories about growing Individuals and Businesses. For more information visit http://www.entrepreneur.com/";>Entrepreneur.Com
Re: [313] UR and KDJ - What?
First off NEITHER of these artists/enclaves makes commitments lightly nor blows anything off lightly!!! How about a little consideration for their ability to make appropriate decisions based on both intelligence, consideration of their fan base as well as how the business flows between them and whichever promoter is setting this up This appearance was not supposed to be promoted---that is nearly a quote from one of the artists whose integrity this ENTIRE thread is questioning I imagine there are other aspects, terms and conditions which are being equally disregarded from the artists perspective, yet I know for a fact that one of these artists is ALREADY in the U.K. and looking forward to this event. Please try to refrain from jumping to conclusions. Should this event indeed come off, well then the "assumers" should eat their unkind words. At the same time, should these artists elect not to come and perform, I'm sure they will have had a very good reason not to. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] UR and KDJ - What? Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:53:19 EST I was just about to try and book tickets for this, but I think I'm going to pass. My condolences to those who did and now have to wait and see. If it turns out they agreed to do this gig, then blew it off, I vote everyone on the list buy ten copies of the Sony Jaguar remix to support a company that delivers on promises. Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] trance - vibe killer?
If someone doesn't like a style of music I wouldn't call it following a trend. Take another genre of music such as hard house. I don't like hard house at all in fact I probably hate it more than I hate trance am I following a trend? Just b/c someone like techno and hates trance doesn't mean they are following any trend at all. It means they don't like trance. I understand u are a trance p a Jayson but this isn't other lists and trance for the majority isn't appreciated on this listbut again I said majority...the topic of the list in Detroit techno and related subjects and it strives to keep that topic...I don't think any of us are followers...we just share a common interest and a liking for wonderful music. -Stacey In a message dated 12/16/2000 1:24:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > so, what your saying is that you wanted to tell us all that you hate trance > so that way we'll accept you? > > does trashin on a genre of music validate you as a dj? > > I guess i find it humorous that those of you who cause the most rucous about > > "hating trance," are those of you who are being followers as much as those > who "love trance." > > discussion topic? " For those who Know " - Mike Banks
Ian O'Brien
the lowdown on Ian O'Brien??? discography??? thank you, Five
Publications
hi, can anyone recommend the best house publications of all time??? I read in Toop's Ocean of Sound that he did an underground thing for a while in the 80's??? Or techno publications thanx Five
Re: [313] trance - vibe killer?
player-hater alert going off like crazy... lol. wait wait wait, just because you spin deep house you're a player? how are you supposed to promote great music if there are people coming on, RIGHT after you, that immediately cheapen the aspect of the music? I would assume that if indeed what you were spinning WAS great music, and that the person spinning was you WAS INDEED spinning crap, that the crowd would feel even better about your set due to contrast. "boy, i'm glad the dj after me was bad; he made me look good." love for music burns deep, Jayson B. hope you understand that, otherwise you've got the wrong list. Of course my love for music burns deep mike (i'm a live pa for pete's sake). Would i feel so strongly about Revolver's comments if i didn't feel strongly about it. Maybe i'm a bad person, but i'm GLAD you people are talking about this stuff again (for or against me). I know a lot of 'old schoolers' have been complaining about people filling up their inboxes with old discussions, but the way i see it is that most of the inbox crap comes from two types of posts: 1) people posting to both the board and to the personal email box, doubling the amount of posts (and to think i just did this. sorry) and 2) the monotoned posts about "what did you find on napster?" _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] trance - vibe killer?
player-hater alert going off like crazy... i guess he just wanted to know if other DJ's could relate to what happened. how are you supposed to promote great music if there are people coming on, RIGHT after you, that immediately cheapen the aspect of the music? that makes people instantly forget what they've just experienced? that makes you feel like you've just wasted your time finding the best, deepest, most soulful records when you could have bought some absolute crap and made the same amount of money, moved the crowd the same way, etc. love for music burns deep, Jayson B. hope you understand that, otherwise you've got the wrong list. Mike From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] trance - vibe killer? Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:23:20 - I just wanted to let all of you know how violated the trance crap made me fell ;) so, what your saying is that you wanted to tell us all that you hate trance so that way we'll accept you? does trashin on a genre of music validate you as a dj? I guess i find it humorous that those of you who cause the most rucous about "hating trance," are those of you who are being followers as much as those who "love trance." discussion topic? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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who is / was "life after mutation" ? thanks, peter
Re: [313] UR and KDJ - What?
> brotha, >if you ain't down with drivin' a jaguar, >then maybe playstation will emulate >the experience for you. so what you're trying to say is that it's a money thing? that wealthy people will own the UR version, while the less fortunate will be forced to purchase the sony one?
Re: [313] vangelis [was Peter Gabriel 313/soundtracks]
> i always play vangelis' charoits of fire and blade runner soundtracks > when i do ambient sets...boderline off topic? Borderline...but I've played Vangelis's theme from Cosmos (big up Carl Sagan, RIP) during an ambient set before. what the hell is my brother's name doing on the list? he doesnt even subscribe? hehe -v p.s. shut up jeff _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] vangelis [was Peter Gabriel 313/soundtracks]
> i always play vangelis' charoits of fire and blade runner soundtracks > when i do ambient sets...boderline off topic? Borderline...but I've played Vangelis's theme from Cosmos (big up Carl Sagan, RIP) during an ambient set before. Billions and billions, BVL -- http://www.chromedecay.org
Re: [313] trance - vibe killer?
I just wanted to let all of you know how violated the trance crap made me fell ;) so, what your saying is that you wanted to tell us all that you hate trance so that way we'll accept you? does trashin on a genre of music validate you as a dj? I guess i find it humorous that those of you who cause the most rucous about "hating trance," are those of you who are being followers as much as those who "love trance." discussion topic? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
trance - vibe killer?
I spun at Platinum in Windsor last night and finished my set at 345 am with a beautiful track by Savvas Ysatis. I played some intense house music previous to that and had every one dancing pretty hard. I was going to stick around and hang out but the DJ after me did the old slow down of my last track and instantly threw down a trance track and followed it with many more. I felt so good after my set and that trance synth just destroyed my mood and groove. I went from hearing funky bass lines and phat beats to hearing emotional synth poppy trance with off beat single bass synth hits. I immediately asked for my payment, said bye to some friends and left (i had to work at 0700 today too). I just wanted to let all of you know how violated the trance crap made me fell ;) - has anyone else experienced this?? cheers djr _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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Re: [313] Peter Gabriel 313/soundtracks
In a message dated 12/12/00 2:59:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And while we're (i'm) talking soundtracks in this vein, the Tangerine Dream tracks from Risky Business, and in a much stranger way Stewart Copeland's Rumble Fish, have always had made me think about detroit. >> i always play vangelis' charoits of fire and blade runner soundtracks when i do ambient sets...boderline off topic? lovin snow... jBw/dj bileebob heckle&jeckle littlebrotherlove(LBL) :F:amiliarProducts:: famzine.homestead.com COMING SOON FAMZINE.ORG
Re: [313] OT: Disco (not Disco) sampler
It should be. As I said a few days ago, it's got tons of Arthur Russell stuff (the first Dinosaur [L] track, the original version of "Treehouse/Schoolbell", the "lost" Loose Joints number) as well as Liquid Liquid, the Larry Levan mix of Yoko Ono's "Walking on Thin Ice", Was (Not Was)'s "Wheel Me Out", something by Don Cherry (!) that I can't wait to hear, and tons more. Also, I hasten to add, it's not just a Joey Negro compilation but also a Sean "not leaving his seat till 8:30pm" P comp. I haven't heard it yet, either, but those Russell tracks are enough for me... Jonny. > I was wondering if the "disco (not disco)" sampler > (compiled by Joey Negro) is any good. This sampler features > dance tracks from the early 80s. (Thinking of Larry Levan, > Liquid Liquid, E.S.G. etc...). I haven't heard it yet, but it looks > very promising. > > Thanks > Chris
Speedy J Pullover : Demo RMX Plus 8
>Speedy J Pullover : Demo RMX Plus 8 I'm very curious about this record, didn't see any info on the +8 web site. I'm thinking its worth the money, I'm also thinking if this is the demo version it's going to have a nice raw feel and that would be very cool. I recently discovered Speedy J "Rise" from Plus 8014 and this is a great track, slow building strings that build to a climax over 727+909 rhythm, you can definitely hear a Derrick May influence on this track. The flip side has De-Orbit, another nice track. Speaking of Derrick May, his rmx of Jaguar on 430 West is really good, more impressive then the original me thinks. How can people question the mans ability? he's a genius. stephen.
Re: [313] www.detroit-history.com
What is Entrepreneur Magazine and where is it published - I would dearly love to read the K Hand interview in the January edition. Anyone help? Cheers >http://www.detroit-history.com/";>Click here for K.Hand DJ Booking >requests, >acacia products and more > www.detroit-History.com > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Yahoo!? and trolling / on 313
A few list members have accused me of trolling the list with Hotmail and Yahoo accounts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is my only email account and I doubt the list administrator is going to do anything about this type of activity. I can understand your frustrations, sometimes the 313 list can seem like an out of control classroom with a substitute teacher. (I went through the American public school system) My advice is subscribe to the 313 Digest, the topics are nicely organized in the front so if you see a topic or thread that interest you, scroll to that desired topic. It's really not that inconvenient, takes me several minutes to go through a digest. hope this helps, stephen. To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] UR and KDJ - What?
brotha, if you ain't down with drivin' a jaguar, then maybe playstation will emulate the experience for you. ..maybe you own stock? ...maybe you have a stack of honey at your domain love, debonair. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: [313] UR and KDJ - What? > I was just about to try and book tickets for this, > but I think I'm going to pass. My condolences to > those who did and now have to wait and see. > > If it turns out they agreed to do this gig, > then blew it off, I vote everyone on the list > buy ten copies of the Sony Jaguar remix to > support a company that delivers on promises. > > Matt > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] John Acquaviva article from 1991
>some list member will remember this in particular .. > >:) > >pallas? Pallas??? What a gorgeous record... Jochem Peteri and Arnout Winkler -Original Message- From: marsel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Saturday, December 16, 2000 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [313] John Acquaviva article from 1991 >At 16-12-00 -0600 06:55, you wrote: >> John toured "Benelux" - the Belgium/Holland/Luxembourg circuit. He also >>participated in the recent Cybersonik live show in Amsterdam with Fierce >>Ruling Diva and Frequency. Judging by audience energy level, the tour >>was a tangible success. >>John also appreciated the difference in attitude. "It's nice to be in a >>room with thousands of people where you don't feel like a freak or a >>minority". > > > ___ > _ http://www.forcefield.org :: mindless entertainment _ > _ http://nortroute.net :: weekly internet broadcast __ > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: [313] John Acquaviva article from 1991
At 16-12-00 -0600 06:55, you wrote: John toured "Benelux" - the Belgium/Holland/Luxembourg circuit. He also participated in the recent Cybersonik live show in Amsterdam with Fierce Ruling Diva and Frequency. Judging by audience energy level, the tour was a tangible success. John also appreciated the difference in attitude. "It's nice to be in a room with thousands of people where you don't feel like a freak or a minority". some list member will remember this in particular .. :) pallas? ___ _ http://www.forcefield.org :: mindless entertainment _ _ http://nortroute.net :: weekly internet broadcast __
John Acquaviva article from 1991
The following article was by Jeff K, from a Dallas Magazine called The Vibe, August 1991. Recently John Acquaviva, cofounder of the Detroit techno label +8 Records spent a weekend in Dallas. He came to check out the scene, and guest dj at Dallas' premiere techno spot and on Edge Club 94. The support for him, his label and the scene in general confirmed his suspicion there was definitely something happening in big D. Acquaviva's been a DJ for ten years. In that time the Italian-born 27-year-old has collected over fifteen thousand records, started his own label, and performed worldwide. To understand his success, what we gonna do right here is go back! John's first attempts at creating his own sound came when he moved from Canada to Buffalo, New York in 1988, to start a hip-hop label called "Flavor records". He released a four-song EP by Scott Down, the label's first and only artist. The A-side, "Ring My Phone", employed samples from the disco classic "Ring My Bell"; John did all musical production. Only 300 copies were pressed and sold locally in Buffalo. "The EP was very raw", John recalls. "The ideas were there, but something went wrong in the mastering and it didn't quite come out as planned." Unfazed, he moved to Detroit to check out his roots. He was impressed by early Detroit DJs like "The Wizard" (who turned out to be Jeff Mills of Underground Resistance), Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and Juan Atkins, the latter three had radio shows. John shared with them the same techno roots. Bands like Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, and Gary Numan. John was especially intrigued that these DJs played their records faster than normal, which seemed to increase the energy level. John developed his DJ style during the disco era, when long smooth mixes were the norm. But once he encountered the hip-hop style of DJing, his style changed; for example, take two copies of a record, find your favorite part and play it over and over, then move on to the next record, creating a lightning-fast collage of tracks. Such tricks earned him the nickname "Jacquaviva +8". While frequenting the Detroit club scene, John met his partner and close friend Richie "Rich" Hawtin. Richie was DJing at the Shelter and also doing edits for Full Effect Records. He and John had similar ideas about what they wanted to achieve. Their first project was some megamixes for Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson; unfortunately, these never came out. However, the work cemented John & Richie's partnership. The more John played records by originators, the more motivated he became to lay down his own ideas on wax. With the money he saved DJing and equipment he built in his studio, he & Richie embarked on their own venture: the birth of +8 records. The name is taken from a formula: faster equals exciting equals +8. The first release on +8 was the "States of Mind" EP, 200 copies of which were pressed on distinctive red vinyl. The record sold well; orders came in for more. The second release, an EP called "We Shall Overcome" by close friend Kenny Larkin, also did well. http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/kennylarkin.ram But it was the third +8 release in 1990, "Technarchy", by Cybersonik, that sent the label over the top. A healthy demand in Europe for Detroit techno made timing ideal. Champion Records signed +8 for a European distribution deal, opening a whole new market for the young Detroit label. Nearly every release since has scored impressive results. Just when everybody began doing "technarchy" soundalikes, Cybersonik released "Backlash", a track that put them miles ahead of the copycats. Other +8 releases include Kenny Larkin's "Integration" EP; "Psyance"; "F.U.S.E."; "From Our Minds to Yours Vol1", a double LP; and "Final Exposure", a collaboration with Joey Beltram. Success brought a chance for the +8 posse to tour Europe. John found the performing atmosphere to be significantly different abroad. "DJing in Europe is quite different then America, where each town has its own core group into the scene but in Europe its incredible, there are two to three thousand people, all into new music and new ideas." John toured "Benelux" - the Belgium/Holland/Luxembourg circuit. He also participated in the recent Cybersonik live show in Amsterdam with Fierce Ruling Diva and Frequency. Judging by audience energy level, the tour was a tangible success. John also appreciated the difference in attitude. "It's nice to be in a room with thousands of people where you don't feel like a freak or a minority". In closing we discussed the current state of dance music, techno and the future of +8. John was quick to respond: "The current state of dance music is overwhelming. As far as techno is concerned, most DJs who want to do stuff can afford the equipment to put their ideas down, and that's exactly what's happening. Each week brings great new tracks. But the people who make the difference are the crowds. The movement is the people, and they are the party. The DJ/artist
John Acquaviva article from 1991
The following article was by Jeff K, from a Dallas Magazine called The Vibe, August 1991. Recently John Acquaviva, cofounder of the Detroit techno label +8 Records spent a weekend in Dallas. He came to check out the scene, and guest dj at Dallas' premiere techno spot and on Edge Club 94. The support for him, his label and the scene in general confirmed his suspicion there was definitely something happening in big D. Acquaviva's been a DJ for ten years. In that time the Italian-born 27-year-old has collected over fifteen thousand records, started his own label, and performed worldwide. To understand his success, what we gonna do right here is go back! John's first attempts at creating his own sound came when he moved from Canada to Buffalo, New York in 1988, to start a hip-hop label called "Flavor records". He released a four-song EP by Scott Down, the label's first and only artist. The A-side, "Ring My Phone", employed samples from the disco classic "Ring My Bell"; John did all musical production. Only 300 copies were pressed and sold locally in Buffalo. "The EP was very raw", John recalls. "The ideas were there, but something went wrong in the mastering and it didn't quite come out as planned." Unfazed, he moved to Detroit to check out his roots. He was impressed by early Detroit DJs like "The Wizard" (who turned out to be Jeff Mills of Underground Resistance), Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and Juan Atkins, the latter three had radio shows. John shared with them the same techno roots. Bands like Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, and Gary Numan. John was especially intrigued that these DJs played their records faster than normal, which seemed to increase the energy level. John developed his DJ style during the disco era, when long smooth mixes were the norm. But once he encountered the hip-hop style of DJing, his style changed; for example, take two copies of a record, find your favorite part and play it over and over, then move on to the next record, creating a lightning-fast collage of tracks. Such tricks earned him the nickname "Jacquaviva +8". While frequenting the Detroit club scene, John met his partner and close friend Richie "Rich" Hawtin. Richie was DJing at the Shelter and also doing edits for Full Effect Records. He and John had similar ideas about what they wanted to achieve. Their first project was some megamixes for Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson; unfortunately, these never came out. However, the work cemented John & Richie's partnership. The more John played records by originators, the more motivated he became to lay down his own ideas on wax. With the money he saved DJing and equipment he built in his studio, he & Richie embarked on their own venture: the birth of +8 records. The name is taken from a formula: faster equals exciting equals +8. The first release on +8 was the "States of Mind" EP, 200 copies of which were pressed on distinctive red vinyl. The record sold well; orders came in for more. The second release, an EP called "We Shall Overcome" by close friend Kenny Larkin, also did well. http://www.htcomp.net/stephen/kennylarkin.ram But it was the third +8 release in 1990, "Technarchy", by Cybersonik, that sent the label over the top. A healthy demand in Europe for Detroit techno made timing ideal. Champion Records signed +8 for a European distribution deal, opening a whole new market for the young Detroit label. Nearly every release since has scored impressive results. Just when everybody began doing "technarchy" soundalikes, Cybersonik released "Backlash", a track that put them miles ahead of the copycats. Other +8 releases include Kenny Larkin's "Integration" EP; "Psyance"; "F.U.S.E."; "From Our Minds to Yours Vol1", a double LP; and "Final Exposure", a collaboration with Joey Beltram. Success brought a chance for the +8 posse to tour Europe. John found the performing atmosphere to be significantly different abroad. "DJing in Europe is quite different then America, where each town has its own core group into the scene but in Europe its incredible, there are two to three thousand people, all into new music and new ideas." John toured "Benelux" - the Belgium/Holland/Luxembourg circuit. He also participated in the recent Cybersonik live show in Amsterdam with Fierce Ruling Diva and Frequency. Judging by audience energy level, the tour was a tangible success. John also appreciated the difference in attitude. "It's nice to be in a room with thousands of people where you don't feel like a freak or a minority". In closing we discussed the current state of dance music, techno and the future of +8. John was quick to respond: "The current state of dance music is overwhelming. As far as techno is concerned, most DJs who want to do stuff can afford the equipment to put their ideas down, and that's exactly what's happening. Each week brings great new tracks. But the people who make the difference are the crowds. The movement is the people, and they are the party. The DJ/artist
Re: [313] UR and KDJ - What?
At 11:53 PM -0500 15/12/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just about to try and book tickets for this, but I think I'm going to pass. My condolences to those who did and now have to wait and see. If it turns out they agreed to do this gig, then blew it off, I vote everyone on the list buy ten copies of the Sony Jaguar remix to support a company that delivers on promises. Don't even joke about Jaguar... Do you have anu idea what UR had to do to stand up to those guys?? Out, Patrick. -- Agent Patrick - The Sentinel. Southern Outpost, Sydney, AU http://www.southernoutpost.com D E M A N D I N N O V A T I O N
Re: [313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report
- Original Message - From: "Chris Tourgelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report > > i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was > produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that > their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through > interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other > djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). > > > chris t > well, duh ;P - it's called interaction... Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go
Mild correction to my MP3 report.
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OT: Disco (not Disco) sampler
I was wondering if the "disco (not disco)" sampler (compiled by Joey Negro) is any good. This sampler features dance tracks from the early 80s. (Thinking of Larry Levan, Liquid Liquid, E.S.G. etc...). I haven't heard it yet, but it looks very promising. Thanks Chris _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
ghettoes of the mind
> stuff, while the LPs are almost all still in print (including Sweet Exorcist > & Rhythm Invention... the only two bad albums they ever released...) yeah the warp cd is a bit odd but the sweet exorcist that came out on touch has some cool tracks on it imo. there's one track there called "ghettoes of the mind" which brings me to my question: when i was in tokyo a few years ago i saw a cd in the hmv jazz section which was called "ghettoes of the mind". for some reason it caught my eye but i didn't buy it (japanese music consumers are amazingly spoilt for choice :) unfortunately i can't remember the name of the artist and would like to track it down. i keep seeing the phrase pop up. can any of the jazz/ groove heads on this list help me out? i've asked this on a few lists and searched the web a few times to no avail... chris t
My MP3 DJ Mix Report.
Hi, I just thought I'd let people know that since I subscribed to this list a week ago some of you have pointed me to some good hour long DJ mixes in mp3 format. I have burned a handful of these mixes to CD and I want to let you know what I got, so you can join in the fun too: The first site is htpp://www.frequencydetroit.com I was really impressed with what this site had to offer. Not only can you download mp3 mixes, but they come in different qualities. I usually download the poor quality one first to see if I like it, then I'll download the high quality one if it's going to the burner. The mixes that caught my eye were first, Mike Grant--8.00(techno mix) [not the house mix]. Can I say solid detroit techno enough? Mom even liked it. Then it was Jared Wilson--Audio Abduction...wow, bangin as hell super mechanical techno to start it out, then lighter stuff at the end. Then I burned Reggie Curry -- new mix 2. I can't say I'm a big fan of house, but this stuff is so chilled and detroit sounding I LOVE IT, (i'm listening to it now). I was initially thrown by the vocal track 13 minutes in, but then I read that Curry was all about sexiness, so it made sense--now I look forward to it because it puts a 'sexy' vibe into the rest of the CD. That's all for frequencydetroit for now. I was wondering what others thought of this site. Next it's http://www.vocode.com ELECTRO! Before someone pointed out this site yesterday, I didn't own an electro cd, now I do! I got the Lex November Showcase mix. This mix got me and my roomate to do all sorts of silly robotic dances. We went there today and spotted new mixes! One thing, the site seems slower than freqencydetroit, since it took 30 minutes to download a 50 minute mix and only 12 minutes for a 75 minute mix from frequencydetroit (T3 connection!) Well, those are the sites that delivered! But hey, while I'm at it, I'd like to share some trouble shooting tips with you about burning and downloading mp3s. For one, you will notice that some mixes at frequency detroit are over 74 minutes, but a standard blank cd is 74 minutes. I had to figure out a way to cut off the last few minutes to make it fit, I tried Soundrecorder, but it ran out of memory. What now? Well I use Winamp to convert the mp3 into a .wav file (it does this really quick too BTW) [set the output to Nullsoft wav out] so just hit STOP before you get to the 74 minute mark and you are set to go. Also, and finally, for the electro mix, I had to really turn it up to hear it, how do you fix this? Use Winamp! Set the preamp level in the EQ higher and make it louder, here you can also tweak with the treble and bass, and when you output it to a wav it will output this tweaked version, thus the mix cd I made sounds "normal". Well, glad to share this cherished knowledge with you, let me know if you find and high quality (>=128k) mp3 mixes [the hyperreal ones are only 16k :( I will definitely check them out. /\ \ / \ \ /\ \ / \ \ / /\ \ \ / / \ \ \ / /\ \ \ / // \ \ \ / // \ \ \ / //-' \ / //___\ \ / / \/_/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
UR and KDJ - What?
I was just about to try and book tickets for this, but I think I'm going to pass. My condolences to those who did and now have to wait and see. If it turns out they agreed to do this gig, then blew it off, I vote everyone on the list buy ten copies of the Sony Jaguar remix to support a company that delivers on promises. Matt
Re: [313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report
> Fittest", in particular) and the early 70s Miles Davis stuff; "Bitches Brew" > is perhaps the LP that kick started that deep jazz funk fusion off, though I this album has some very deep funk on it imo. believe the hype. perhaps also with some relevance to 313: "On the Corner" for the "repetitive beats" tangent or "Dark Magus" for the brief drum machine-y bit. how about Herbie Hancock's "Rockit"? :) but yeah, Deep Space is great. Flanger is nice too. > many have been mentioning L. Naverre..St.Germain //Rose Rouge check it if > havent yet much as i like this track, i kind of agree with Philip McG.'s earlier comments: do a bunch of blue note samples and jazz-y solo riffs etc in a techno/house track make it jazz? perhaps the genres overlap in their emerging alongside a social phenomenon of sorts - jazz began as a form of dance music, right? - as well as the combination of european and african musical elements (to a greater or lesser degree). i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). chris t
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