[313] The Blue Room this weekend

2002-08-02 Thread sean deason
matrix : fridays
august 2:
jan d -vs- sean d

detreux saturdays
brought to you by chrissie clees
august 3:
john clees (cd giveaways!) and bileebob

NO COVER!
21+
the blue room
51 n. saginaw (above bo's brewery, at the corner of huron and saginaw)
downtown pontiac
248.338.6200 

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[313] Digital::Nimbus :: Reminder + Special Guest

2002-08-02 Thread pietrobot

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread plaztikjezuz
> and disco from rock & roll and rock & roll from 
classical and classical
> from i don't know from cave man man banging his rocks..
> 
> so Techno must be a Natural progression..ahhh doesn't 
it 
> put it all into perspectiveness :0)
> 
uhmm (clears throat)

rock did_not_come from classical parsay.
it came from the Blues Baby!
rock'n'roll was/is slang for having sex.
and with how segerated the music industery was back in
the early 20th centery you could not call the "white" 
version
of the "race music" blues.
so it became rock'n'roll

country also came from the bluse but I'm getting way oof 
topic here.

scotto
ps. sorry if someone else already covered this.

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread plaztikjezuz

> of course
> 
> judge me
> 
> still: i find kraftwerk boring
> 
> W

heiratic!

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RE: [313] Charles Siegling @ Fabric

2002-08-02 Thread . _ .
Saw him in chicago.  Impressive skills, great fun, and interesting enough 
track selection, as well as being a downright friendly fellow.  A good set 
to check out for the harder-side-of-melodic-techno enthusiast.  Some electro 
and bass thrown in for good measure.



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he played tronic a couple of weeks ago in nyc, i second the
recommendation.

-pete

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Re: [313] Tiny Reminders from Motor (fwd)

2002-08-02 Thread :P
hey could someone on the list pick some up for me if I could mail you a
kidney or even money?  I'd give you 25 per ticket and need at least 2, so
you could make like TEN WHOLE DOLLARS.

reason:  I live 2 hours north of detroit and might not make it in time

I think john acquaviva is rad too.

-Joe


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>
> Tickets for THE LAST DANCE will be onsale this weekend @ Motor for only
$20
>
>
>
>
> Tonight
> Friday 8/2
>
> TERRY MULLAN
> B'LEN'D
>
> AUDIOMATRIX-live
> MARK FLASH
>
> MIKE HUCKABY
>
>
> Tomorrow
> Saturday 8/3
>
> $5 COVER
> LADIES FREE B4 MIDNIGHT
> $3 DRINK SPECIALS
>
> residents-
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> GOLDFINGERS
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Re: [313] Header?

2002-08-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
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> Anyone familiar with this group or who they are? Carl Craig talks abut
> doing an animation project with them on a CD-ROM
> http://www.forcefield.org/craig.html

Header was a CD/CD-Rom with 6 tracks that came out around '97 I think? It
had a 2 1/2 minute Carl Craig track, that's really abstract but still 4/4.
Also had tracks from Kirk DeGiorgio (sic - yes, I just sic'd myself), 4 Hero
(I think), and the full version of Red Nail's 'Te Opus Diem', which was
later reissued on Bombay on vinyl. The CD-Rom is lame but the music is very
nice, particularly 'Te Opus Diem'. The version on vinyl is pretty crap sound
quality, which always perplexed me until recently. When Miles Maeda came to
talk @ Metatrack Studios here, he told a story about making this long track
with Mark Farina, Derrick Carter and Chris Nazuka that eventually got
pressed with a weird pause in the middle b/c the only copy of it had been
rescued from tape. You would never guess it from the Header CD, which
apparently had a nice digitial edit and severe sonic restoration.
Interestingly, Farina and Maeda weren't credited on either release. It's a
brilliant track, probably my favorite track from Red Nail, which is really
saying something in my book.

Tristan


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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
yes you are. theyre both really really good, and pretty damn 
consistant. 

tom


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>Who doesn't like  drexciya  or robert hood
>
>I find them all too samey, too fasat
>
>Don't get me wrong  I know they r quality   they just son't do it 
for me
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[313] Tiny Reminders from Motor (fwd)

2002-08-02 Thread yussel

Tickets for THE LAST DANCE will be onsale this weekend @ Motor for only $20




Tonight
Friday 8/2

TERRY MULLAN
B'LEN'D

AUDIOMATRIX-live
MARK FLASH

MIKE HUCKABY


Tomorrow
Saturday 8/3

$5 COVER
LADIES FREE B4 MIDNIGHT
$3 DRINK SPECIALS

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[313] Header?

2002-08-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Anyone familiar with this group or who they are? Carl Craig talks abut
doing an animation project with them on a CD-ROM
http://www.forcefield.org/craig.html


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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread yussel
At this point, isn't being into Derrick May kinda redundant.

Its kinda like saying you're into the Doors. I like the Doors, but its
become standards. No real reason to talk about it anymore.


> Anyway.. as a 313 member I think it is more logical you are into derrick may
> & carl craig.. than into drexciya and robert hood.
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Re[2]: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
>> so Techno must be a Natural progression..

TW> Ultimately culminating in progressive house. Our work is done here. From
TW> this moment forward there will be no more progress.

Nononono, Quadraphonia's "Raving to the Fifth" was the endpoint of
musical advancement.  Like the mythical Ouroboros - the serpent
swallowing its own tail - that pivotal piece of music represents the
point at which classicism finally passed the esophageal sphincter of
modernism, its vestigial legs grasping in vain for a foothold in the
slippery . . . nevermind.

Oh hey, the new Bug Orchestra CD kicks ass.  Good show, Mr. Lig.

-
Brian "balistic" Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon.



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[313] some L.Garnier videos

2002-08-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?oid=3621


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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
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> so Techno must be a Natural progression..

Ultimately culminating in progressive house. Our work is done here. From
this moment forward there will be no more progress.

Tristan


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Re: [313] videos?

2002-08-02 Thread Tristan Watkins
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> Outside of the X-Mix videos, Carl Craig's "Televised Green Smoke", and
> Metropolis - what other Detroit and D influenced artists have made music
> videos? What more - where can you purchase them/view them?

What's this about a Televised Green Smoke video? Is it just for that song,
or is there more to it than that?

Tristan


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[313] videos?

2002-08-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Outside of the X-Mix videos, Carl Craig's "Televised Green Smoke", and
Metropolis - what other Detroit and D influenced artists have made music
videos? What more - where can you purchase them/view them?

MEK


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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Maarten Baute

> But still, I don't like their music. And I get the feeling that when you
are
> a 313er everyone assumes you are into Kraftwerk and drexciya and ectomorph
> and dopplereffect etc etc etc. Well I don't.

I, for one, am not in dopplereffect and ectomorph. Actually, I have NO
records from them at all... (but I am collecting vinyl only for 1.5 years).

Anyway.. as a 313 member I think it is more logical you are into derrick may
& carl craig.. than into drexciya and robert hood.


Greets,
Maarten


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RE: [313] Charles Siegling @ Fabric

2002-08-02 Thread Grammenos, Peter

he played tronic a couple of weeks ago in nyc, i second the 
recommendation. 

-pete

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[313] you know you want it

2002-08-02 Thread :P
http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux/still_fuxin_(unfinished%20ggrr).mp3


comments?


missing at least 2-3 parts

one of which would be a groovy bassline if I can work it out dynamically.

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[313] Charles Siegling @ Fabric

2002-08-02 Thread Gary . Girard



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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
and disco from rock & roll and rock & roll from classical and classical
from i don't know from cave man man banging his rocks..

so Techno must be a Natural progression..ahhh doesn't it 
put it all into perspectiveness :0)

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I  could piss you all off even more when I say that no one in detroit was a
father to techno and that it was a natural progression from the disco days



-Joe


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> >waahahahaha
> >
> >of course I cannot deny that they didn't have some kind of influence. And
of
> >course, they should be respected for that. That is something I know.
>
> LOL! Kraftwerk had some kind of influence on techno now that is the
> understatement of the year on 313 :)
>
> Now i am waiting for Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saundersons
> did slightg modifications to the techno sound :))
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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Malcolm J. McAtee
or all the detroit stuff was really just house music.
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>I  could piss you all off even more when I say that no one in detroit was
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>father to techno and that it was a natural progression from the disco days
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>> >waahahahaha
>> >
>> >of course I cannot deny that they didn't have some kind of influence.
>And
>of
>> >course, they should be respected for that. That is something I know.
>>
>> LOL! Kraftwerk had some kind of influence on techno now that is the
>> understatement of the year on 313 :)
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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread :P
I  could piss you all off even more when I say that no one in detroit was a
father to techno and that it was a natural progression from the disco days



-Joe


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> >waahahahaha
> >
> >of course I cannot deny that they didn't have some kind of influence. And
of
> >course, they should be respected for that. That is something I know.
>
> LOL! Kraftwerk had some kind of influence on techno now that is the
> understatement of the year on 313 :)
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> Now i am waiting for Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saundersons
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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Sean Creen
No, it wasn't - some distributors just falsely advertised it as such.
Definitely not Mills either (obviously). Sounds much more like some dodgy
European chancer!

Sean.

>It wasn't Jeff Mills who did the Burns record it was somebody from the
Downwards camp





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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread alex . bond

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Hmm, thing is, there is so many 'pre-techno' records that sound like
techno, that you have to say that really all those three did was modify the
sound

Maybe?

Juan always said something along the lines of "I didn't invent anything"
(although those weren't his actual words)

*alex ducks to avoid the volley of abuse coming shortly*




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>waahahahaha
>
>of course I cannot deny that they didn't have some kind of influence. And
of
>course, they should be respected for that. That is something I know.

LOL! Kraftwerk had some kind of influence on techno now that is the
understatement of the year on 313 :)

Now i am waiting for Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saundersons
did slightg modifications to the techno sound :))

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

waahahahaha

of course I cannot deny that they didn't have some kind of influence. And of
course, they should be respected for that. That is something I know.


LOL! Kraftwerk had some kind of influence on techno now that is the 
understatement of the year on 313 :)


Now i am waiting for Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saundersons 
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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Wibo Lammerts
waahahahaha

of course I cannot deny that they didn't have some kind of influence. And of
course, they should be respected for that. That is something I know.

But still, I don't like their music. And I get the feeling that when you are
a 313er everyone assumes you are into Kraftwerk and drexciya and ectomorph
and dopplereffect etc etc etc. Well I don't. 

And still, I love techno.

happy weekend

out

W

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Well, they're an acquired taste Wibo to their many millions of fan! But I
would suggest that many more people who are neutral to them would accept
that they've contributed a number of memorable songs.

You don't think so?

Oh well, I'll pray for you my child!

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Ken

(by the way, I'm joking ... before I get accused of blasphemy as well as
musical-taste fascism ...)

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Well, they're an acquired taste Wibo to their many millions of fan! But I
would suggest that many more people who are neutral to them would accept
that they've contributed a number of memorable songs.

You don't think so?

Oh well, I'll pray for you my child!

+-

Ken

(by the way, I'm joking ... before I get accused of blasphemy as well as
musical-taste fascism ...)

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Wibo Lammerts
of course

judge me

still: i find kraftwerk boring

W

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> same for me with Kraftwerk. boring.

Blasphemy!

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Re: [313] electro sets online?

2002-08-02 Thread Michael Lees




I've got a couple of superb techno mixes from this site:
http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/mixes.htm
so far I have #1 & #27 and have listened to them several times now. These 2
mixes are very minimal and atmospheric, nice and smooth.




I'll second that, I've downloaded most of them and they're great.
I think my fave would be #31

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
I quite like The Flow as a matter of fact (but what do i know...im almost
fanatical about robert hood)

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> >Nah, I know this remark is coming from someone who rates "The Flow" as
one
> >of Juan Atkins' best tracks. Says it all really :)
>
> Come on, you can slap harder than that :)
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> I don't think I've said it was one of his best? But it is a damn good
track.
> Great little low budget video too.
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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Simon Walley

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Simon:

>Otto will probably slap me for that :)

Nah, I know this remark is coming from someone who rates "The Flow" as one 
of Juan Atkins' best tracks. Says it all really :)


Come on, you can slap harder than that :)

I don't think I've said it was one of his best? But it is a damn good track. 
Great little low budget video too.


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[313] big wig event

2002-08-02 Thread Zachary Lubin
...for anyone looking to hear some quality outer space
techno that most likely does not get played out much
(due to eclectic nature or bpm), and needs a
refreshing night out to reset their heads, i will be
deejaying at big wig tues august 13 in chicago (1551
W. Division St.)
i will be playing a wide selection of music, spanning
artists like matrix, john beltran, diego + voco
derman, jfc, cim, robert hood, AFX, carl craig, and
arovaneand sex by berlin. 

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
so did they nick the purpose maker ?? cos it was vs purpose maker..

cheeky bootleg eh..


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two tracks I do like is Jeff Mills take on of Dead or Alive you spin me and 
the Yazoo thingy with called Stuimultaion - why cos there the ones out of
the 80's  that have been rewored and sound uplifting..

It wasn't Jeff Mills who did the Burns record it was somebody from the
Downwards camp

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Collin McKinney
Subject: RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

two tracks I do like is Jeff Mills take on of Dead or Alive you spin me and 
the Yazoo thingy with called Stuimultaion - why cos there the ones out of
the 80's  that have been rewored and sound uplifting..

It wasn't Jeff Mills who did the Burns record it was somebody from the
Downwards camp

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Otto

Simon:

>>Fabrice Lig
>
>I do not understand the deal with this guys stuff. It
>pushes all the Detroit techno production values but
>seems so digital and clean and stripped of any of the
>rough mad freakiness that makes Detroit techno
>interesting...?
>
>Otto will probably slap me for that :)

Nah, I know this remark is coming from someone who rates "The Flow" as one 
of Juan Atkins' best tracks. Says it all really :)


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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Maarten Baute
> >Fabrice Lig
>
> I do not understand the deal with this guys stuff. It pushes all the
Detroit
> techno production values but seems so digital and clean and stripped of
any
> of the rough mad freakiness that makes Detroit techno interesting...?

 I find some of fabrice´s stuff to.. euh.. bleepy?
you know.. filtered with a high resonance.. kind of acidic.

But I love his "justice" record on ray gun.

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Simon Walley

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I personally find much of thier techno pretty boring these days to be quite 
honest and whilst I dont profess to be any sort of authority on Mills or 
Hood these days I cant help feeling that their techno hasn't really moved 
on that much since the term 'minimal looped techno' was coined.


I think it has. There's a great deal of difference between Hoods techno 
M-Plant material, his stringy Duet stuff, the Floorplan house and the 
Nighttime world sort of jazz-meets-classic-Detroit-strings. They all share 
Hoods' trademark sounds but there is plenty to distinguish them. Also, 
no-one has bit Rob Hoods style - he moves his sound forward (new M-Plants 
have almost sounded a bit DSP/treated) but you know its Hood at the helm and 
not some copyist, which Mills has perhaps suffered from (although thats not 
his fault).


Drexciya - I haven't been as enamoured with their recent releases but then I 
still think their best track is the "Lego blocks" cut on the Glass Domain 
12" which set the benchmark pretty high :)


In fact the last thing by Robert Hood I was sent was his rendition of 'The 
Greatest Dancer' which was quite frankly awful.


I've said this before but I love this track. I love the energy of it and the 
fact its a trademark clean Rob Hood production, dirtied by the live aspect 
and singing. Yeah the singing isn't in key, isn't well produced blah blah 
but its great to hear something totally different and its good to see 
someone with the balls to release something with a messy energy like that.



Fabrice Lig


I do not understand the deal with this guys stuff. It pushes all the Detroit 
techno production values but seems so digital and clean and stripped of any 
of the rough mad freakiness that makes Detroit techno interesting...?


Otto will probably slap me for that :)

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Otto

Several people wrote:

>I guess its just a matter of taste

Nope. It's not.

Check the 313th commandment: thou shalt worship Robert Hood and Drexciya.

Taste? Bah, humbug.

:)

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread stewart
>Nah, it's not obligatory to like Drexciya/Hood, just advisable!

Hmmm, I've only ever bought 2 records by Robert Hood. Nighmare World Vol 1 and 
The Protien Valve EP, neither of which have been played for several years. The 
only records by Jeff Mills I've liked enough in recent years to want to own and 
listen to at home have been his Every Dog 12s and the Metropolis LP, in fact I 
haven't really been into his music since the very first Purpose Maker Stuff. 
I'm not sure how 'advisable' it has to be to like these artists. I personally 
find much of thier techno pretty boring these days to be quite honest and 
whilst I dont profess to be any sort of authority on Mills or Hood these days I 
cant help feeling that their techno hasn't really moved on that much since the 
term 'minimal looped techno' was coined. In fact the last thing by Robert Hood 
I was sent was his rendition of 'The Greatest Dancer' which was quite frankly 
awful.

So there you go, I can, believe it or not, quite honestly and proudly profess 
to be a lover of good and pure techno who ignores most of the music that Jeff 
Mills, Robert Hood, Richie Hawtin and many other artists currently put out. But 
show me something from Mike Banks, Matthew Puffett, Duplex, Delsin Records, 
Carl Craig, Fabrice Lig, Dennis DeSantis.etc..and I'll lap it up.

I guess its just a matter of taste, One man's funk is another man's squaredance.

On the topic of Minto's comments recently about Dan Curtin's recent return to 
form I can also confirm that he's due to drop a wicked remix on Digital Soul 
Records in the next couple of months (see below for details) and I have been 
told that there is some excellent unreleased stuff from him currently doing the 
rounds.

Coming soon on Digital Soul

DS05: Brien Prince: Strokes of Defience
DS06: Splinterfaction: Ulturism 2 featuring Dan Curtin, Fabrice Lig and 
$tinkworx
DS07: $tinkworx: Aadena EP
DS08: John Harvey (Dimension 5): Formation one EP
DS09: Derek Carr: Untitled featuring Anthony Shakir

Cheers

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Maarten Baute

> Who doesn't like  drexciya  or robert hood
>
> I find them all too samey, too fasat
>
> Don't get me wrong  I know they r quality   they just son't do it for me


I like some of the older hood releases.. but I normally don´t buy drexciya
releases... I´ve got one actually, wich is great.. but I am not that
impressed by the rest. I don´t know why.

On the other hand.. I almost like ALL carl craig records..

so it is just a matter of taste, I presume.

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread J. T.

> same for me with Kraftwerk. boring.

Blasphemy!


wibo, put on this blindfold, and go stand in front of that wall...you've 
sealed your fate with the 313 firing squad..


seriously tho, did you forget to take your medication this am..??

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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Wibo Lammerts wrote on Fri, 2 Aug 2002 about following:

> Drexciya is ok, I bought the "quest" with the thought that my collection
> would not be complete without at least one Drexciya release. The Quest is
> ok, but that first TResor album, well, I do not have the guts to say that it
> sucks, but that would be an accurrate description.

so far i've liked some drexciya stuff; mostly the singles. album wise, 
quest is definitely their best work but has way too many filler tracks, 
which seem to be the problem with the first tresor album too. 


> > me I really don't get this electroclash stuff..I just think its 
> > moody 80's sounds not mind grabbing but hey again that's my opinion

same here.

>>> Who doesn't like ... robert hood

i haven't heard his most recent stuff but last new tracks i heard from 
him was that horrible disco-cover track(live recording i think, on 
mplant); some of his best work are just single tracks off from various 
ep's; driving moody minimal stuff. he's got the touch when it comes to 
hihats and claps. some stuff on drama & duet are just amazing.   

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Re: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread tom churchill
> same for me with Kraftwerk. boring.

Blasphemy!


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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I think we found him! Yes, it's only you Paul! :o)

Nah, it's not obligatory to like Drexciya/Hood, just advisable!

Not everything Drexciya does is good certainly, and the same must be true of
Hood logically. And that doesn't even account for the question of taste.

In fact, by very rough calculations, what might be classified as techno
music accounts for less than a fraction of 1% of all popular music sales -
so you're not alone at all in disliking Drexciya or Hood, or any techno
artist at all!

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>Who doesn't like  drexciya  or robert hood
>
>I find them all too samey, too fasat
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>Don't get me wrong  I know they r quality   they just son't do it for me
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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Wibo Lammerts
yeah well,

same for me with Kraftwerk. boring.

Drexciya is ok, I bought the "quest" with the thought that my collection
would not be complete without at least one Drexciya release. The Quest is
ok, but that first TResor album, well, I do not have the guts to say that it
sucks, but that would be an accurrate description.

Gotta run, time to take cover for the furious 313 swarm!

W

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ooo you might ruffle some feathers there but you are 
allowed your opinion but like all techno and all music
yes it can sound the same..

me I really don't get this electroclash stuff..I just think its 
moody 80's sounds not mind grabbing but hey again that's my opinion

two tracks I do like is Jeff Mills take on of Dead or Alive you spin me and 
the Yazoo thingy with called Stuimultaion - why cos there the ones out of
the 80's  that have been rewored and sound uplifting..



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Who doesn't like  drexciya  or robert hood

I find them all too samey, too fasat

Don't get me wrong  I know they r quality   they just son't do it for me


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RE: [313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
ooo you might ruffle some feathers there but you are 
allowed your opinion but like all techno and all music
yes it can sound the same..

me I really don't get this electroclash stuff..I just think its 
moody 80's sounds not mind grabbing but hey again that's my opinion

two tracks I do like is Jeff Mills take on of Dead or Alive you spin me and 
the Yazoo thingy with called Stuimultaion - why cos there the ones out of
the 80's  that have been rewored and sound uplifting..



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Who doesn't like  drexciya  or robert hood

I find them all too samey, too fasat

Don't get me wrong  I know they r quality   they just son't do it for me


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[313] Am I the only person in the world

2002-08-02 Thread Paul Wise
Who doesn't like  drexciya  or robert hood

I find them all too samey, too fasat

Don't get me wrong  I know they r quality   they just son't do it for me


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Re: [313] new rob hood and some other records to pick up

2002-08-02 Thread john harvey



> Sorry did you give a release date?

September I think
> 
> Rob Hood in an 'Alien Artform' style perhaps.. 

perhaps you could say that about a couple of the tracks :)
> 
> k
> 
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> >
> >
> >The next one on ray gun should be good aswell
> >- because it's by me!
> >
> >john (dimension 5)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Another one to check out is the new Dan Curtin
> >> "Redcrash ep" on Raygun. A very nice deep soulful 3
> >> tracker for Dan. This is my favorite thing he has done
> >> in quite some time. So those of you who lost interest
> >> in Dan's music, pick this one up...it's classic Dan.
> >>
> >> Gotta chime in too for the new Iridite 12" "One more
> >> than one"...this is really something unique. Sounds
> >> very Detroit but with a different interpretation. odes
> >> to M500 infoworld too with some like sounds.
> >>
> >> also some others I heard that were interesting was
> >> this new Derrick Carter 12" on Igloo...this one will
> >> be a hit type record. Also the new Joshua on Seasons
> >> is also one to check out. And if you like more soulful
> >> stuff check out the new Hanna LP on Trackmode.
> >>
> >> minto
> >>
> >> dL music
> >> http://downlowmusic.org
> >>
> >> upcoming in Sept:
> >> Arne Weinberg "Beauty in Decay" dL008
> >> Convextion dLVEXT1
> >>
> >> Oct: dL ltd tribute 12"
> >> Nov: Polarius 12" dL009
> >> Dec/Jan: The Connection Machine CDLP
> >> Dec/Jan: Dan Curtin 12" dL010
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[313] Hope ya liked Jammin too

2002-08-02 Thread Gary . Girard



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TECHNASIA STEVE RACHMAD
ADE FENTON TONY WORK



ROOM TWO : DRUM & BASS

FABIO
FALLOUT RASCAL & KLONE
RATTY SHAOLIN & PACE


ROOM THREE : BEAT BREAKIN ELECTRO HIP-HOP

DAVE CLARKE ELECTRO SET
BROTHERS BUD ROB SIMONS & FRIENDS
ROOM FOUR : CHILLED BEATS AMBIENT ELECTRONICA DEEPER HOUSE

Another one bites the dust!


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RE: [313] new rob hood and some other records to pick up

2002-08-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Sorry did you give a release date?

Rob Hood in an 'Alien Artform' style perhaps, can't wait. The Autumn's
looking great for new releases all of a sudden ...

k

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>To: 313@hyperreal.org
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>The next one on ray gun should be good aswell
>- because it's by me!
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>john (dimension 5)
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>> Another one to check out is the new Dan Curtin
>> "Redcrash ep" on Raygun. A very nice deep soulful 3
>> tracker for Dan. This is my favorite thing he has done
>> in quite some time. So those of you who lost interest
>> in Dan's music, pick this one up...it's classic Dan.
>>
>> Gotta chime in too for the new Iridite 12" "One more
>> than one"...this is really something unique. Sounds
>> very Detroit but with a different interpretation. odes
>> to M500 infoworld too with some like sounds.
>>
>> also some others I heard that were interesting was
>> this new Derrick Carter 12" on Igloo...this one will
>> be a hit type record. Also the new Joshua on Seasons
>> is also one to check out. And if you like more soulful
>> stuff check out the new Hanna LP on Trackmode.
>>
>> minto
>>
>> dL music
>> http://downlowmusic.org
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>> upcoming in Sept:
>> Arne Weinberg "Beauty in Decay" dL008
>> Convextion dLVEXT1
>>
>> Oct: dL ltd tribute 12"
>> Nov: Polarius 12" dL009
>> Dec/Jan: The Connection Machine CDLP
>> Dec/Jan: Dan Curtin 12" dL010
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RE: [313] records to be had

2002-08-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 ... By the same artist, might I recommend 'Port of Transition' (I feel like
a wine connoisseur, using these phrases) ... which has the added juvenile
charm of having the initials 'POT'. It's mostly beatless, atmospheric and a
little bit mad. But it does serve as a good interval in a set at a point
when you wanna change things up, or down. 'Port of Transition' if you will.

1996 vintage? I'm not sure. Many BCP issues are being repressed right now to
capitalize on the reknewed interest from the comp "Arrange & Process ..."

k

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>To: 'Rusty Blasco'
>Cc: '313@hyperreal.org'
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>I recommend the Port of Call record on Chain Reaction, if you are
>looking in
>that area...by Porter Ricks, possibly?
>
>good record...hard to find though.  but it is possible since I got my copy
>in the used bins for $3.50
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>peace
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>jeff
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>OK, so I realize if I am take this DJ vocation seriously I should begin
>assembling techno records en masse.  So far I've been spare in my use of
>already meager funds for purchases of music.  However, I've taken
>a decisive
>
>turn in my way of thinking, choosing to immerse myself in the
>culture/artform at every given opportunity.  If money need be spent, so be
>it, I do so happily.
>
>On that note, what essential Basic Channel releases would you recommend?
>And beyond that, what are some of the classics I need to be schooled in to
>be considered an informed member of the community?  Yes, I know this list
>has the potential to be large, but besides feeling my own way through, I'd
>like some sagacious guidance.
>
>Thus far my heroes are Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Robert Hood and Derrick
>May.  I like my techno hard deep and funky but will never forsake the
>spiritual element.
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>Help is much appreciated.
>
>   Rusty
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RE: [313] Fw: Peacefrog Records special on BBC

2002-08-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Sounds nice. Not meaning to be arch, but do you guys regard Rob Hood as part
of the 'house' rubrik? That's interesting 'cause although most would
recognize the points of commonality, many here would see at least a genre
distinction between 'house' and 'techno' (the latter camp being where most
would place Rob Hood's brand of 4/4 dance music).

k

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>From: senslo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>For people in Sydney: we're starting up a house night
>on Thursday August 29, and Inertia (Australian
>distributors) are giving us copies of Robert Hood's
>"Point Blank" album to give away on the night.
>
>I'll post more details later, but essentially it's a
>$6 dollar night at the Hunter Bar in central Sydney,
>featuring Declan Kelly from Melbourne's Honkytonks and
>Research & Development and Simon Caldwell from
>Sydney's Mad Racket.
>
>Cheers
>
>Chris
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RE: [313] Fw: Peacefrog Records special on BBC Radio 1 tonight

2002-08-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 ... Ahh, but I wouldn't gripe about *that* particular point! You see in US
grammar/English 'Mathematics' is correctly abbreviated to 'Math'. And I can
see the logic in that too, I mean why do we need the extra 's' if we're
abbreviating? ... is this off-topic? :o)

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>> "Who Taught You Math" (no question mark!).
>
>And no 's' at the end of 'Math' either, more to the point! :)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Tom
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RE: [313] Fw: Peacefrog Records special on BBC

2002-08-02 Thread senslo
For people in Sydney: we're starting up a house night
on Thursday August 29, and Inertia (Australian
distributors) are giving us copies of Robert Hood's
"Point Blank" album to give away on the night.

I'll post more details later, but essentially it's a
$6 dollar night at the Hunter Bar in central Sydney,
featuring Declan Kelly from Melbourne's Honkytonks and
Research & Development and Simon Caldwell from
Sydney's Mad Racket.

Cheers

Chris

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