RE: (313) un:warp (off-topic)
http://www.submerge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=1;action=display;num=103 5983383 scroll down to the post made by 'stereo' -Original Message- From: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:12 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) un:warp (off-topic) hi all i know we've had this several times before, but how can i unwarp records (using a heating preferredly...) thanks for any help niko
Re: (313) un:warp (off-topic)
place the warped record in a tightly packed record crate for a week or so. works a treat. james > From: "Niko Tzoukmanis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:21 +0100 > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: (313) un:warp (off-topic) > > hi all > i know we've had this several times > before, but how can i unwarp records > (using a heating preferredly...) > thanks for any help > niko > >
(313) tech related: cd recorders
Does anyone know how to subscribe to the 313technow list? Please email back off list if you do. Much appreciated, Wojtek
(313) digital vinyl.
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RE: (313) hero worship
It's amazing people would still fork out this kind of money for a 909, especially with the amount of sample CD's/Soft Synths/Drum Machines that are out now. You could buy an MPC 2000XL for that sorta money! Anyhoo, each to their own I guess. P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:01 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) hero worship from the australian trading post (secong hand gear) website: ROLAND TR909 DRUM machine, in very good condition, as used and signed by Jeff Mills and Richie Hawtin on their Australian tours, $2200 or near offer UNLEY 0401-69 5367 (this is about $1235 US) it's all yours nath :^) p
(313) London and paris this weekend
Hi All, Does anyone know of 313-related shows or online resources about shows to see in either London or France this weekend? Please email back offline, thank you, Wojtek
(313) hero worship
from the australian trading post (secong hand gear) website: ROLAND TR909 DRUM machine, in very good condition, as used and signed by Jeff Mills and Richie Hawtin on their Australian tours, $2200 or near offer UNLEY 0401-69 5367 (this is about $1235 US) it's all yours nath :^) p
RE: (313) Techno Pancakes
here, I'll give away my secret recipe, culminated from 10+ years of pancake making. Everyone who has practically ever stayed with me over the years have had these. vegan buckwheat pancakes 1 cup organic buckwheat flour 1 cup organic unbleached white flour 2 cups water 1/4 cup olive, canola, or flax seed oil 1 tbsp baking powder 1 tbsp ground cinnamon + cardamon [the SECRET!] 1 tbsp vanilla [optional] mix the dry ingredients first, then add the wet. You may need to add a little extra water if it's too thick, or extra flour or baking powder if it is too thin, or doesn't rise. BTW. These work REALLY well in BELGIAN waffle makers, but I have had limited success in the 4-up wafflers. notes: 1. I used to use vinegar + baking soda and make people in SF almost die because they were sour. that was because I read somewhere that the combination would make it "egg-like". Unfortunately it is a better solution for cakes of a greater density [like Moosewood's 6-minute vegan chocolate / coffee cake] 2. Do not substitute the flour if you can help it. I've found that whole wheat flour has a less appealing taste than buckwheat, and you definitely need the mix of thin to thicker flour so the pancakes will get that nice, lovely golden color. 3. I use a very small amount of olive oil in the pan when cooking. 4. Use a non-stick pan like a t-fal or Calpholan skillet. However, these pans are not "macrobiotic" so you might want to investigate other options. If you use aluminum, you're stupid for cooking with them, because they cause Alzheimer's disease, and stainless steel, unfortunately, sticks. hash browns [I guess they're vegan too] 1 large russet potato per person boiling water sea salt, ketchup, and hot sauce to taste potato / cheese grater [muy importante!] Parboil the potatoes for 5-8 minutes until the exterior is somewhat soft. They shouldn't be _very_ mushy nor stiff from a poke from a fork. Drain the boiling water and use it for lentil soup [see below]. Rinse with cool water and let it sit for a few minutes. Then shred, one potato per person. The boiling makes the potatoes glutinous and now you can form them into latkes / potato pancakes [sans eggs]. Fry with olive oil, it tastes the best. Use sea salt on them.. lentil soup [also vegan] 2 cups green or brown lentils 4 cups water [more or less] 3-5 cloves minced or dicec garlic 1-2 tbsp crushed red chili peppers 1-2 tbsp olive oil 1-2 tsp tumeric 1 tsp coriander or cumin 3-5 bay leaves sea salt and black pepper to taste Soak the lentils in the water overnight. In the morning, add some salt and bring the lentils to a boil. Add the spices. Reduce the heat after 5-8 minutes and then simmer for 2-4 hours [depending on your patience]. Fish out the bay leaves before eating. I use this stuff called Vegan Parmesan Alternative [inventive name, eh?] on top and probably will add a little more salt. Good for cold autumn lunches. mmm. I have recipes for green curry, risottos, pasticcios, soba noodles, etc. Email me if you're that interested. Enjoy! +odd -- Todd Sines icq: 7580 SCALE:form | image | sound http://www.scalestudio.com
(313) paging atomly
don't have your addie please hit me back scotto lansing, mi.
(313) re: Planet E
There are actual label copies in production but I don't think they have been released as of yet. I still only have the white labels. It will be the same design as the EP but with a green metallic instead of charcoal metallic ink. A1 is "cum closer" B1 is "i cannot" they are merely MIXes of the same track but with no kick drum on "cum closer" and no synth line on "i cannot".. with some added reverb and delay for both. Not remixes. However, there will be some special treats for the album in the works right now. I'm not entirely sure if there will be a single or two between it all. ciao, +odd -- > Just wondered if anyone on the list had heard/seen/can confirm the = supposed > 'limited edition' Carl craig mixes on a seperate 12"? > Thought they were due out soon.? Yes these are out now, but I didn't really think they were that = limited... saw a few sitting in the bins, but white lables with stickers = (not full 'artwork' as such). How many were released? -- Todd Sines icq: 7580 SCALE:form | image | sound http://www.scalestudio.com
Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
> I think it's what he's saying that deserves praise, regardless of what you
> think of him as a person - we all need to pull together on this one.
> Just my 2c,
> Andrew
Which "one"? The new world order one?
One world, one card? No, thank you. =)
Just my two cc - Amex *and* Visa.
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Re: (313) on topic: music and politics Fwd: Re: ot politics
> anyways detach yourself from who's writing the article, if you have a
> prejudice against Vidal, and just listen to the information presented.
Or perhaps just listen to information *and* music.
Try The Fire This Time:
http://www.firethistime.org/
Excellent presentation of *facts*, set to music;
two discs: one with narration, one instrumental.
Extremely well done, in every regard.
Bola, Aphex, HIA, Panasonic, Orbital, Speedy J, etal.
"We are in the process of destroying an entire society.
It is as simple and terrifying as that.
It is illegal and immoral." -
Dennis Halliday, Former UN Assistant Secretary General, and
Humanitarian Aid Co-Ordinator for Iraq,
in his resignation speech, 30th September, 1998
The multi-nats have taken over the building
and are holding hostages.
'They' have threatened to kill everyone, unless they
get 'their' way.
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Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
> Keep in Mind Gore Vidal is the same Gore Vidal who sympathized enough with > Tim McVeigh to be the only non-relative allowed to view his execution. > > To me he's more like Lyndon LaRouche, than a true investigative reporter. > > That's not to say I approve of The President's actions, because I do not. I think it's what he's saying that deserves praise, regardless of what you think of him as a person - we all need to pull together on this one. Just my 2c, Andrew
(313) Magda in London, UK
** rare UK appearance from the lovely Magda ** Thursday 28th November Magda [NY] Andrew Weatherall Keith Tenniswood Haywire Bridge & Tunnel, Shoreditch High St London E2 8pm - 2am free entry www.haywire.co.uk
Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
Yeah he's out there but he probably had some damn good reasons to sympathize with McVeigh, he's a smart man. we all need to give more sympathy, and as americans i hope we can still get some. anyways detach yourself from who's writing the article, if you have a prejudice against Vidal, and just listen to the information presented. From: Elliot Taub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'J. T.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:55:09 -0500 Keep in Mind Gore Vidal is the same Gore Vidal who sympathized enough with Tim McVeigh to be the only non-relative allowed to view his execution. To me he's more like Lyndon LaRouche, than a true investigative reporter. That's not to say I approve of The President's actions, because I do not. e Scatalogics 3240 46th ST #2B Astoria, NY 11103 www.scatalogics.com > From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:48:39 -0500 > To: "'J. T.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics > > > It's feasible considering that when the us embassy was bombed in Sudan (99), > we refused to have the two al queda suspects extradited to the US along > with voluminous information on the al queda terrorist network which in > hindsight would have most probably helped prevent the attacks. CIA called > it the biggest intelligence blunder ever. > > Sorry for the OT . This stuff gets me all riled up. > > -Original Message- > From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:41 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics > > > last i'll say -- PLEASE read this if you haven't read it already. PLEASE. > > if you dont wanna read an intro here's the link: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html > > > grabbed off Global Darkness..: >> --- >> The cover of either the Daily News or the Post (I can't keep them straight) > >> here in New York had a headline after the "Predator" aircraft took out >> those guys in Yemen that simply said "ZAP!" Isn't that messed up? Everyone >> and their mothers in America right now should read "1984" and then take a >> very critical look at the Bush administration and the mainstream media. >> >> Speaking of which, Gore Vidal published a screed in the Observer (a Sunday >> paper published in the UK) entitled "The Enemy Within," that claimed Bush >> had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and allowed them to happen in order >> to justify a Central Asian war, leading to U.S. control of oil resources >> throughout the region. >> >> You can read the full 7,000-word essay here: >> http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html > > > _ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: (313) O/T Liverpool UK
you'll have a job with record shops I'm afraid. They're all a little sub-standard. The pick of the bunch is in the palace on Slater street. Can't remember the name, but you go inside and down into the basement, and it's a badly laid out second hand shop with a fair range of techno, electro & house (down the stairs on the right, do not whatever you do go left or you''ll find yourself surrounded by box sets of fantasia XXIII tapes and Sy and Dougal CDs), but be warned you will have to dredge through a few racks of coal to find the diamond. Avoid 3-beat at all costs. It'll have one or two detroit records in there (since sometime voodoo DJ Andy Nicholson works there and has a hand in the buying) but apart from that it's really quite bad. full of scallies listening to nasty hardcore and frankly rude staff (Andy Nich quite definitely excepted, light brown hair, glasses, knows his stuff and is a nice bloke)... I've a bit of a personal axe to grind with the shop since last time I was in there they tried to charge me £15 for a TLS record on warp (with a 7 quid sticker on it), on the basis that it was an import... 'what, imported from f**king Sheffield?' Probe's not exactly full of techno but I have a soft spot for it and it may be worth a go; just over the road from the palace. Besides it's been open for almost a quarter century and had a hand in the liverpool punk scene so you could just go for the historical interest (moved from it's original HQ though which was far better). And you might want to try Hairy records in Bold street. To my mind one of the best second hand record shops in the country, although again no techno (a few decent early house records if you search though). and that's just about it. Sorry but the shops really are better in Manchester. A fiver on the coach. -s _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
> Keep in Mind Gore Vidal
Al Gore Vidal Sassoon
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Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
Keep in Mind Gore Vidal is the same Gore Vidal who sympathized enough with Tim McVeigh to be the only non-relative allowed to view his execution. To me he's more like Lyndon LaRouche, than a true investigative reporter. That's not to say I approve of The President's actions, because I do not. e Scatalogics 3240 46th ST #2B Astoria, NY 11103 www.scatalogics.com > From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:48:39 -0500 > To: "'J. T.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics > > > It's feasible considering that when the us embassy was bombed in Sudan (99), > we refused to have the two al queda suspects extradited to the US along > with voluminous information on the al queda terrorist network which in > hindsight would have most probably helped prevent the attacks. CIA called > it the biggest intelligence blunder ever. > > Sorry for the OT . This stuff gets me all riled up. > > -Original Message- > From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:41 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics > > > last i'll say -- PLEASE read this if you haven't read it already. PLEASE. > > if you dont wanna read an intro here's the link: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html > > > grabbed off Global Darkness..: >> --- >> The cover of either the Daily News or the Post (I can't keep them straight) > >> here in New York had a headline after the "Predator" aircraft took out >> those guys in Yemen that simply said "ZAP!" Isn't that messed up? Everyone >> and their mothers in America right now should read "1984" and then take a >> very critical look at the Bush administration and the mainstream media. >> >> Speaking of which, Gore Vidal published a screed in the Observer (a Sunday >> paper published in the UK) entitled "The Enemy Within," that claimed Bush >> had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and allowed them to happen in order >> to justify a Central Asian war, leading to U.S. control of oil resources >> throughout the region. >> >> You can read the full 7,000-word essay here: >> http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html > > > _ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) Techno-themed artwork
I've been doing a lot of conceptualizing on an underwater theme since Mr. Stinson's passing. This is a very early work-in-progress: http://www.bprince.com/SubMarauderA.jpg A member of a mysterious organization of rebels known as the "Submarauders." Based somewhere in the Greater Polar Chasms, their advanced acoustic weapons are universally feared despite their non-lethality. Close allies with the Stomatopod Bionics, the two factions often lead raids on invader-controlled supply caches. - "Space isn't remote at all. It's only an hour's drive away if your car could go straight upwards." - Fred Hoyle - Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon.
(313) Events in Detroit next week?
Hi all, I'll be in Detroit next week, can anyone recommend some good clubs/events to check out? Thanks a million, -wells
Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
To make this on topic I was sitting waiting on an oil change going through the magazines and I notice some similarities in terrorist fatigue and Underground Resistance, WPA. I personally have always liked things people would find controversial like Natzi design/ architecture, the old U.S.S.R, Stalin, constructovism and places like Iran esthetically pleasing. So how is UR taking all this post 9/11 "war against terrorism" political correctness, are they trying to down play the militia look? A few questions for UR in case someone has another interview with Mad Mike. on 11/6/02 10:48 AM, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's feasible considering that when the us embassy was bombed in Sudan (99), > we refused to have the two al queda suspects extradited to the US along > with voluminous information on the al queda terrorist network which in > hindsight would have most probably helped prevent the attacks. CIA called > it the biggest intelligence blunder ever. > > Sorry for the OT . This stuff gets me all riled up.
(313) Juan Atkins in SF
hey list! party alert Saturday 9th Nov. ASS* BOMB* with Juan Atkins S.T.C vs S.C.O. (live PA) Jeffrodeeziak Chris Orr Shobhan at Club Six, Sixty 6th St. San Francisco 10pm- 4am $10 b4 12am ... sounds like a goodun'
Re: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
Since this thread talks about war and guns, I also recommend that everyone go see Michael Moore's new-ish film "Bowling For Columbine". That one is a real kick in the head. g. Grammenos, Peter wrote: It's feasible considering that when the us embassy was bombed in Sudan (99), we refused to have the two al queda suspects extradited to the US along with voluminous information on the al queda terrorist network which in hindsight would have most probably helped prevent the attacks. CIA called it the biggest intelligence blunder ever. Sorry for the OT . This stuff gets me all riled up. -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics last i'll say -- PLEASE read this if you haven't read it already. PLEASE. if you dont wanna read an intro here's the link: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html grabbed off Global Darkness..: --- The cover of either the Daily News or the Post (I can't keep them straight) here in New York had a headline after the "Predator" aircraft took out those guys in Yemen that simply said "ZAP!" Isn't that messed up? Everyone and their mothers in America right now should read "1984" and then take a very critical look at the Bush administration and the mainstream media. Speaking of which, Gore Vidal published a screed in the Observer (a Sunday paper published in the UK) entitled "The Enemy Within," that claimed Bush had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and allowed them to happen in order to justify a Central Asian war, leading to U.S. control of oil resources throughout the region. You can read the full 7,000-word essay here: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) OT - ruined records
Seeing as its off topic week here in 313 land. i recieved my 5 records from a shop that respect very much. 4 of them are either mispressed or ruined and therefore skip, slide and get caught in the groove. 2 records are totally useless, while the other 2 could never be used in a set. i sent 2 emails in 2 days notifying them of this fact (these 4 eps are on labels distributed by the shop) and asking them if i can get them changed. no reply (yet, i hope). what do you ppl suggest i do now? my dj friend says is hould just send them back. thanks and please excuse the OT-ness, im sure you understand fab
RE: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
It's feasible considering that when the us embassy was bombed in Sudan (99), we refused to have the two al queda suspects extradited to the US along with voluminous information on the al queda terrorist network which in hindsight would have most probably helped prevent the attacks. CIA called it the biggest intelligence blunder ever. Sorry for the OT . This stuff gets me all riled up. -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Fwd: Re: ot politics last i'll say -- PLEASE read this if you haven't read it already. PLEASE. if you dont wanna read an intro here's the link: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html grabbed off Global Darkness..: >--- >The cover of either the Daily News or the Post (I can't keep them straight) >here in New York had a headline after the "Predator" aircraft took out >those guys in Yemen that simply said "ZAP!" Isn't that messed up? Everyone >and their mothers in America right now should read "1984" and then take a >very critical look at the Bush administration and the mainstream media. > >Speaking of which, Gore Vidal published a screed in the Observer (a Sunday >paper published in the UK) entitled "The Enemy Within," that claimed Bush >had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and allowed them to happen in order >to justify a Central Asian war, leading to U.S. control of oil resources >throughout the region. > >You can read the full 7,000-word essay here: >http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) Fwd: Re: ot politics
last i'll say -- PLEASE read this if you haven't read it already. PLEASE. if you dont wanna read an intro here's the link: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html grabbed off Global Darkness..: --- The cover of either the Daily News or the Post (I can't keep them straight) here in New York had a headline after the "Predator" aircraft took out those guys in Yemen that simply said "ZAP!" Isn't that messed up? Everyone and their mothers in America right now should read "1984" and then take a very critical look at the Bush administration and the mainstream media. Speaking of which, Gore Vidal published a screed in the Observer (a Sunday paper published in the UK) entitled "The Enemy Within," that claimed Bush had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and allowed them to happen in order to justify a Central Asian war, leading to U.S. control of oil resources throughout the region. You can read the full 7,000-word essay here: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-green/2002-October/004980.html _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
Speaking of which g. Original Message Subject: DJ T-1000 rocks Record Time Ferndale Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:47:31 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; The Last DJ On Earth returns to Record Time Ferndale ! November 8th 2002 7-9 pm 262 W. Nine Mile Rd one block west of Woodward Hor d'oeuvres by La Soups, so come and eat to the beat All Pure Sonik and Generator products are specially-priced www.recordtime.com www.puresonikrecords.net www.generatormusic.com FC2 Richards wrote: what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually does. I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker! -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) Amen Jeff! It always bugs the hell out of me when the self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing. If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should get drunk or something. "Bite me" is what I usually end up thinking... On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote: While I respect your opinion and understand that your comments are made in the context of this discussion (and also that dance music is ostensibly made for dancing), I have to say that I find the notion that someone gets to say how *I* need to react to something else in the sense that I can be marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at least as problematic as a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by whomever. I don't dance and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma or an ill formed sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy the music nor does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a performative context or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that I haven't left the venue should say something. In an age where all kinds of criticism (literary, etc.) has freed art from static notions tied with the artist, I find it interesting that the monolithic notion of "must-dancing" still rules. I do understand the need for it and I understand how it creates a necessary symbiosis - but why does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them to enjoy and appreciate something? We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable with dancing as each other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any behavior or reaction to art is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no tie between art and artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic to dictate behavior to a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this particular post (as I can see the connection you are making vis a vis the trend), but rather towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I don't dance, I am unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really about the music OR the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a way which is genuine to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's enjoyment. .02. jeff At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote: This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In one respect, people go to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other respect, they go to watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his normal context and into that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her rather than interacting. (another argument which I'm not going to pontificate on here) So you get one half of the audience dancing and the other just watching. This has been, IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like in recent years. Too much watching, not enough dancing. I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was far too much of the latter going on. You could see him actually looking rather annoyed as one absolute classic after another (Final Frontier, Magnese) was being dropped only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the crowd. How must a DJ feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people looking at them spin some records? TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) another corker
> > >that multi ordinal > >tracking unit 12 must have sold 1000s due to it's outing on the subject > >detroit cd :) ) > > unfortunately i suspect not... yeah i suspect not tooshame tho as it's top quality...along with the counterattack stuff >the "Multiordinal Tracking Unit" 12inch, and > also the previous Counterattack releases (the "Clinamen" 12inch and "We Can > Elude Control" 7inch) never quite got the attention they deserved imho, so > props to Bone for picking up on them! quality electro and techno, > wrapped-up in some interesting concepts and ideas. > > i've heard that Counterattack might be active again soon. here's hoping! ooh you'll hafta keep me posted on that... robin...
Re: (313) another corker
Robin: that multi ordinal tracking unit 12 must have sold 1000s due to it's outing on the subject detroit cd :) ) unfortunately i suspect not... the "Multiordinal Tracking Unit" 12inch, and also the previous Counterattack releases (the "Clinamen" 12inch and "We Can Elude Control" 7inch) never quite got the attention they deserved imho, so props to Bone for picking up on them! quality electro and techno, wrapped-up in some interesting concepts and ideas. i've heard that Counterattack might be active again soon. here's hoping! rob _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
> what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually
does.
> I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker!
Third Reich N' Roll?
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Re: (313) un:warp (off-topic)
This record collector(v rare motown/soul) I know swears by using boiling water. I've seen him pour boiling water on 1000GBP records before, which increased in value once unwarped. It seems to work but I wouldn't trust myself. He puts the record on his kitchen side, boils some water and pours a little over. He then leaves it cool. If you think about trying this I'd test it a few times first on records you're not too bothered about. --Mike Niko Tzoukmanis wrote: hi all i know we've had this several times before, but how can i unwarp records (using a heating preferredly...) thanks for any help niko
RE: (313) twosim re-release
This is the most extended page on Boards of Canada I ever saw! Many details, hidden messages etc. For all fans of Boc: all you ever wanted to know. http://www.davidac.fsworld.co.uk/boc.htm Remco
(313) Fw: THROBBING GRISTLE - 24 Hours of TG Exhibition at the Cabinet
THROBBING GRISTLE 24 HOURS OF TG - EXHIBITION 4th - 7th December 2002 The Cabinet Gallery, 49-59 Old Street, London EC1 "24 HOURS OF TG" - A DELUXE BOXED CD EDITION Release Date: 23rd December 2002 Throbbing Gristle (Chris Carter, Genesis P-Orridge, Cosey Fanni Tutti & Peter Christopherson), one of the most influential and controversial bands ever, are to be celebrated at a special exhibition entitled 24 Hours Of TG at the Cabinet Gallery on London's Old Street on the 4th - 7th December. This unique exhibition will feature rare Throbbing Gristle artifacts including the Gristleizer, a sonic gadget, uniforms, photographs, manifestos and letters and will coincide with the release of 24 Hours Of TG, a boxed set of 24 individually packaged CDs on Industrial Records via The Grey Area of Mute. Sensitively remastered by Chris Carter, the limited edition package brings Industrial Records' original Boxed 24 cassette edition into the 21st Century and features the majority of TG's live output. The Exhibition will see all 24 live shows played chronologically over the 4 days in an exhibition curated by the Cabinet Gallery in conjunction with all four members of Throbbing Gristle. 24 Hours of TG Exhibition 4th - 7th December The Cabinet Gallery Flat 6, 3rd floor, 49-59 Old Street, London EC1 Wednesday 4 December 2002 12 noon ICA, London 18 October 1976 1.00pm Winchester/Air Gallery 6 July 1976/21 August 1976 2.00pm Nags Head, High Wycombe 11 February 1977 3.00pm Brighton Polytechnic 26 March 1977 4.00pm Nuffiield Theatre 7 May 1977 5.00pm Rat Club, London 22 May 1977 Thursday 5 December 2002 12 noon Highbury Roundhouse, London 29 September 1977 1.00pm Winchester School of Art 11 November 1977 2.00pm Rat Club, Valentino Rooms, London 17 December 1977 3.00pm Brighton Polytechnic 25 February 1978 4.00pm Architectural Association, London 3 March 1978 5.00pm Goldsmith's College, London 18 May 1978 Friday 6 December 2002 12 noon Industrial Training College, Wakefiled 1 July 1978 1.00pm Filmmakers Co-Op, London 6 July 1978 2.00pm Cryptic One Club, London 11 November 1978 3.00pm Centro Iberico, London 21 January 1979 4.00pm Ajanta Cinema, Derby 12 April 1979 5.00pm Sheffield University 25 April 1979 Saturday 7 December 2002 12 noon The Factory, Manchester 19 May 1979 1.00pm Guild Hall, Northampton 26 May 1979 2.00pm YMCA, London 3 August 1979 3.00pm Butlers Wharf, London 23 December 1979 4.00pm Fan Club, Leeds 24 February 1980 5.00pm Goldsmith's College, London 13 March 1980 24 Hours Of TG, the deluxe boxed CD edition is released on Industrial Records via The Grey Area of Mute on the 23RD of December 2002, for more details visit www.mute.com/tg regularly for updated pictures of the box set as it is built. A new Throbbing Gristle compilation will be released in the new year.
(313) un:warp (off-topic)
hi all i know we've had this several times before, but how can i unwarp records (using a heating preferredly...) thanks for any help niko
Re: (313) ot politics
On 11/7/02 1:10 PM, "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what about new zealand. anybody know how recloose is finding it? > james West to the Marshall Islands then hang a left? -- im (sorry, couldn't resist)
Re: (313) another corker
hi simon, > >anyone heard the ksr mix cd? i heard the burden brother responsible > >talking about taking risks with the mix (which most mix cds i've come > >across don't really do, culprits include the recent submerge stuff and the > >first octave one mix cd) so i was wondering if he does anything new on > >thereaanyone? > > You're talking about this CD right? > > http://www.430west.com/catalog/back_to_the_rhythm.html yep that's the one...the double pack i refer to is also called that. > I didn't hear anything risky. Sounds pretty straight - all the tracks are > 4-5 mins long and given a chance to develop rather than get treated as a > tool as in say Mills' Liquid Rooms. Its a showcase of 430 West tracks, not > really a showcase of mixing 'risks'. The DJ 3000 mix CD is a rougher but > riskier example. yeah i've got that and out of the three ur related cd's that came out recently this one is probably the most raw (in a good way tho)... i understand the need to showcase tracks on these cds but i can't help thinking that they'd sell more of their stuff if the tracks were used 'in anger' so to speak like the mills and bone cds (i mean look at any of the tracks on the liquid rooms cd...all top sellers, also that multi ordinal tracking unit 12 must have sold 1000s due to it's outing on the subject detroit cd :) ) > Highlight is the Al James (who I think is Octave One and someone else?) > track which is a proper string-filled classic. i concur... cheers robin...
RE: (313) twosim re-release
or this: http://www.music70.com/discog_twoism.html Bart > > Check warprecords.com for more info... > >
RE: (313) ot politics
I'm already on it, and it is in the persian gulf. Try for the next trip out leaving in a month and a half or so! Jeff -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ot politics when does the boat leave, somebody save me a seat $*I^%O%*^& jt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) ot politics
don't try coming to australia on a boat--they'll sink your boat, lie about it, lock you up in the middle of the desert or pay a small impoverished pacific island to lock you up, and then send you a bill for the lot. oh yeah, if you have a kid they'll kick you out of the country but keep the child. plus they'll charge you $20 to buy a record. what about new zealand. anybody know how recloose is finding it? james > From: "Jonny McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:41:03 - > To: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) ot politics > > dunno, but bear in mind that when you arrive we will lock you up > >> when does the boat leave, somebody save me a seat >> $*I^%O%*^& >> >> jt > > > >
Re: (313) twosim re-release
It was just vinyl, on BoC's own Music70 label in 1996, something like 100 copies and one pressing. One of the holy grails of IDM to be sure...at least until the repress... It sounds a lot like the Hi Scores EP. Check warprecords.com for more info... Heath Robert Taylor wrote: > Well I never found it. > > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:57 PM > To: Robert Taylor; 'James Bucknell'; Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) twosim re-release > > Wasn't it released on cd quite widely however ...? > k > > >-Original Message- > >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:04 PM > >To: 'James Bucknell'; Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: (313) twosim re-release > > > > > >I think he's talking about Boards Of Canada's debut album which only ever > >came out in a ridiculoulsy limited edition of a few hundred. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 PM > >To: Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (313) twosim re-release > > > > > >well that sparked my curiosity, tell me more about this twoism. > >james > > > >> From: "Mesu Kasumai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:26:21 -0500 > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: (313) twosim re-release > >> > >> an exciting day for anyone who is interested, warp records is re-releasin > >> twoism, startin with pre orders taken today via warpmart. i guess that > >means > >> no more copies going for over 1000 dollars on ebay. and it also > >looks like > >> theyre still goin to use the artwork, taken from outpost zeta. cant get > >> enough of those cheesy 70s sci-fi flicks. > >> > >> > >> regards, > >> mike > >> www.8bitpeoples.com > >> www.fulcruminn.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _ > >> Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >> http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >> > >> > > > > > >Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > >represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > >stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended > >solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. > >If you have received this email in error, please notify > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error, please notify > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) twosim re-release
Well I never found it. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:57 PM To: Robert Taylor; 'James Bucknell'; Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) twosim re-release Wasn't it released on cd quite widely however ...? k >-Original Message- >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:04 PM >To: 'James Bucknell'; Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) twosim re-release > > >I think he's talking about Boards Of Canada's debut album which only ever >came out in a ridiculoulsy limited edition of a few hundred. > >-Original Message- >From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 PM >To: Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) twosim re-release > > >well that sparked my curiosity, tell me more about this twoism. >james > >> From: "Mesu Kasumai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:26:21 -0500 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: (313) twosim re-release >> >> an exciting day for anyone who is interested, warp records is re-releasin >> twoism, startin with pre orders taken today via warpmart. i guess that >means >> no more copies going for over 1000 dollars on ebay. and it also >looks like >> theyre still goin to use the artwork, taken from outpost zeta. cant get >> enough of those cheesy 70s sci-fi flicks. >> >> >> regards, >> mike >> www.8bitpeoples.com >> www.fulcruminn.net >> >> >> >> >> _ >> Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> >> > > >Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily >represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended >solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. >If you have received this email in error, please notify >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) paging sean deason
please contact me i lost your new email address TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: (313) twosim re-release
Wasn't it released on cd quite widely however ...? k >-Original Message- >From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:04 PM >To: 'James Bucknell'; Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) twosim re-release > > >I think he's talking about Boards Of Canada's debut album which only ever >came out in a ridiculoulsy limited edition of a few hundred. > >-Original Message- >From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 PM >To: Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) twosim re-release > > >well that sparked my curiosity, tell me more about this twoism. >james > >> From: "Mesu Kasumai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:26:21 -0500 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: (313) twosim re-release >> >> an exciting day for anyone who is interested, warp records is re-releasin >> twoism, startin with pre orders taken today via warpmart. i guess that >means >> no more copies going for over 1000 dollars on ebay. and it also >looks like >> theyre still goin to use the artwork, taken from outpost zeta. cant get >> enough of those cheesy 70s sci-fi flicks. >> >> >> regards, >> mike >> www.8bitpeoples.com >> www.fulcruminn.net >> >> >> >> >> _ >> Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> >> > > >Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily >represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended >solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. >If you have received this email in error, please notify >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: (313) another corker
anyone heard the ksr mix cd? i heard the burden brother responsible talking about taking risks with the mix (which most mix cds i've come across don't really do, culprits include the recent submerge stuff and the first octave one mix cd) so i was wondering if he does anything new on thereaanyone? You're talking about this CD right? http://www.430west.com/catalog/back_to_the_rhythm.html I didn't hear anything risky. Sounds pretty straight - all the tracks are 4-5 mins long and given a chance to develop rather than get treated as a tool as in say Mills' Liquid Rooms. Its a showcase of 430 West tracks, not really a showcase of mixing 'risks'. The DJ 3000 mix CD is a rougher but riskier example. Highlight is the Al James (who I think is Octave One and someone else?) track which is a proper string-filled classic. Its a nice showcase CD - worth it for some of the tracks - but I way prefer the DJ 3000 one. || [CiM] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.warmdata.net/ _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) ot politics
dunno, but bear in mind that when you arrive we will lock you up > when does the boat leave, somebody save me a seat > $*I^%O%*^& > > jt
RE: (313) twosim re-release
I think he's talking about Boards Of Canada's debut album which only ever came out in a ridiculoulsy limited edition of a few hundred. -Original Message- From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 PM To: Mesu Kasumai; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) twosim re-release well that sparked my curiosity, tell me more about this twoism. james > From: "Mesu Kasumai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:26:21 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) twosim re-release > > an exciting day for anyone who is interested, warp records is re-releasin > twoism, startin with pre orders taken today via warpmart. i guess that means > no more copies going for over 1000 dollars on ebay. and it also looks like > theyre still goin to use the artwork, taken from outpost zeta. cant get > enough of those cheesy 70s sci-fi flicks. > > > regards, > mike > www.8bitpeoples.com > www.fulcruminn.net > > > > > _ > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) ot politics
when does the boat leave, somebody save me a seat $*I^%O%*^& jt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: (313) twosim re-release
well that sparked my curiosity, tell me more about this twoism. james > From: "Mesu Kasumai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:26:21 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) twosim re-release > > an exciting day for anyone who is interested, warp records is re-releasin > twoism, startin with pre orders taken today via warpmart. i guess that means > no more copies going for over 1000 dollars on ebay. and it also looks like > theyre still goin to use the artwork, taken from outpost zeta. cant get > enough of those cheesy 70s sci-fi flicks. > > > regards, > mike > www.8bitpeoples.com > www.fulcruminn.net > > > > > _ > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >
(313) O/T Liverpool UK
Greetings all, I will be in Liverpool, UK for the weekend. I wondering what I should see/do that's 313 related. Any good clubs, record stores, etc? Any help appreciated! thanks jim
Re: (313) another corker
> John Thomas Blackstage Re-Works (logistic). > Mixes by Octave One, Rolando, DBX, Losoul, Tejada as well as Thomas & Cabanne. > Quite nice. the rolando mix towers above the others imo as well. the octave one mix aint too shabby either but the rolando one is the one get hold of imo speaking of octave one. the double pack that came out recently on concept uk is really good. contains the octave one remix of inner city's 'big fun' which is excellent, along with some other brill tracks by ksr etc anyone heard the ksr mix cd? i heard the burden brother responsible talking about taking risks with the mix (which most mix cds i've come across don't really do, culprits include the recent submerge stuff and the first octave one mix cd) so i was wondering if he does anything new on thereaanyone? cheers robn...
Re: (313) Gemixt 2
Second that. I've had the promo cd for a couple of months now, and been playing it quite often for a nice butt-wriggle around the house. : ) http://www.treibstoff.org I like Jeff Bennett's output anyway, deep sometimes dubby kinda minimal house (I do always have probs labelling music). He's released on Phunctional (his own label afaik), Episode, Poker Flat, Kung Fu Dub... He's from Malmö/ Sweden, and has also released some groovy choons as Mike Pung, on Maskros iirc. Real name Michel Mirecki (?). Also worth checking out is Falko Brocksieper's output. Smoovegrooves. : ) Cheers, Anya > From: Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed 06/Nov/2002 00:15 GMT > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Gemixt 2 > > Anyone else heard this (on Treibstoff)? I'm just into track 2 and it's > pretty nice stuff. Deep, not quite microhouse (too melodic) with some BC > overtones here and there (but too layered to be BC). If you want a nice > mix, here it is. > > jeff ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
(313) The sequuel.. Placid acid volume 2.... New mix...
http://www.acid-house.net/placidacidv_2.mp3 phortune, cool house, random xs,mike dred,armando... tracklisting soon... enjoy Placid
Re: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
do you really NEED good clubs in Tahiti? ;-) fab. - Original Message - From: "FC2 Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Cyclone Wehner'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > when I was in Melbourne a couple of years ago, I went to both Honkeytonks > and Soul'sa, and I gotta admit, both of them were off the hook. I loved it. > I look back on those 5 days of partying that I spent there, and wish I had 5 > more. Sadly, I found out today that I am definitely not going to make it to > Melbourne this year. Tahiti is now on the list though. I am bummed. > > Does anyone know of any good clubs in Tahiti?? > > Jeff > > -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:22 AM > To: 313 Detroit > Subject: RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > > > There's good deep house in Sydney, like Mad Racket parties, it's just very > underground. > > There's excellent DJs like Simon Caldwell. > > Honkytonks is THE CLUB in Melbourne. It's funny they get all these big > Australian commercial DJs calling there begging to play to enhance their > cred and they're like No. > > There's a lot of deep house in Melbourne so maybe come down here. > > One of the best crews is El Barrio. Then there's Deep North (linked to > tiptop web site). There's also Soul'sa who combine the best of Detroit and > Chicago and are totally on it. WOW, which is Liz Millar's thing, but maybe > more garage. The whole spectrum of deep house. > > The thing is these crews don't advertise much, it's word of mouth (always > very strong in Melbourne). > > > > Inbox Message > > > > From: "Patrick Wacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > > Date: 05/11/2002 12:04:53 > > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > > > > I agree, it's pretty hard to find real deep house in Sydney. It may pop up > > once in a while at a one off party or on the radio, but mostly it's pretty > > weak off-shoots. > > > > After spending the weekend down in Melbourne, it's definately a great > place > > to hear deep house... and I gotta say Angela Maison really throws it down > @ > > Honkey Tonks on Saturday nights. Man, she was playing some great tracks. > One > > of Melbourne's best dj's! > > > > Peace, > > Patrick. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:00 AM > > To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit > > Subject: Re: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > > > > > > i'm a deep house (among other genres) dj who moved (back) to sydney after > 10 > > years in new york. i can't get a booking playing deep house here. i get > > booked to play techno and electro. > > the stuff that people in sydney call deep house has nothing to do with the > > stuff i play. > > i go to nights billed as deep house here and they're playing progressive. > > laylo and bushwacka are't deep house, and nor are peace division. > > > > i hope someone can prove me wrong and tell me where they're playing real > > house in sydney, i realy really want to go dancing. > > > > maybe melbounre is better (i did get booked to play a house set in > melbourne > > at a club called honkytonks, but my records box never showed up). > > james > > >
RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
when I was in Melbourne a couple of years ago, I went to both Honkeytonks and Soul'sa, and I gotta admit, both of them were off the hook. I loved it. I look back on those 5 days of partying that I spent there, and wish I had 5 more. Sadly, I found out today that I am definitely not going to make it to Melbourne this year. Tahiti is now on the list though. I am bummed. Does anyone know of any good clubs in Tahiti?? Jeff -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:22 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) There's good deep house in Sydney, like Mad Racket parties, it's just very underground. There's excellent DJs like Simon Caldwell. Honkytonks is THE CLUB in Melbourne. It's funny they get all these big Australian commercial DJs calling there begging to play to enhance their cred and they're like No. There's a lot of deep house in Melbourne so maybe come down here. One of the best crews is El Barrio. Then there's Deep North (linked to tiptop web site). There's also Soul'sa who combine the best of Detroit and Chicago and are totally on it. WOW, which is Liz Millar's thing, but maybe more garage. The whole spectrum of deep house. The thing is these crews don't advertise much, it's word of mouth (always very strong in Melbourne). > Inbox Message > > From: "Patrick Wacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > Date: 05/11/2002 12:04:53 > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > > I agree, it's pretty hard to find real deep house in Sydney. It may pop up > once in a while at a one off party or on the radio, but mostly it's pretty > weak off-shoots. > > After spending the weekend down in Melbourne, it's definately a great place > to hear deep house... and I gotta say Angela Maison really throws it down @ > Honkey Tonks on Saturday nights. Man, she was playing some great tracks. One > of Melbourne's best dj's! > > Peace, > Patrick. > > -Original Message- > From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:00 AM > To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit > Subject: Re: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > > > i'm a deep house (among other genres) dj who moved (back) to sydney after 10 > years in new york. i can't get a booking playing deep house here. i get > booked to play techno and electro. > the stuff that people in sydney call deep house has nothing to do with the > stuff i play. > i go to nights billed as deep house here and they're playing progressive. > laylo and bushwacka are't deep house, and nor are peace division. > > i hope someone can prove me wrong and tell me where they're playing real > house in sydney, i realy really want to go dancing. > > maybe melbounre is better (i did get booked to play a house set in melbourne > at a club called honkytonks, but my records box never showed up). > james >
RE: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually does. I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker! -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) Amen Jeff! It always bugs the hell out of me when the self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing. If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should get drunk or something. "Bite me" is what I usually end up thinking... On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote: > > While I respect your opinion and understand that your > comments are made in > the context of this discussion (and also that dance > music is ostensibly > made for dancing), I have to say that I find the notion > that someone gets > to say how *I* need to react to something else in the > sense that I can be > marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at > least as problematic as > a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by > whomever. I don't dance > and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma > or an ill formed > sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't > enjoy the music nor > does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a > performative context > or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that I > haven't left the > venue should say something. > In an age where all kinds of criticism > (literary, etc.) has freed > art from static notions tied with the artist, I find it > interesting that > the monolithic notion of "must-dancing" still rules. I > do understand the > need for it and I understand how it creates a necessary > symbiosis - but why > does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them to > enjoy and > appreciate something? > We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable > with dancing as each > other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any > behavior or reaction to art > is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no tie > between art and > artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic to > dictate behavior to > a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this > particular post (as I > can see the connection you are making vis a vis the > trend), but rather > towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I > don't dance, I am > unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really > about the music OR > the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a > way which is genuine > to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's > enjoyment. .02. > > > jeff > > > At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote: > >This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In > one respect, people go > >to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the other > respect, they go to > >watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his > normal context and into > >that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her > rather than interacting. > >(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate > on here) So you get > >one half of the audience dancing and the other just > watching. This has been, > >IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like > in recent years. Too > >much watching, not enough dancing. > > > >I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there was > far too much of the > >latter going on. You could see him actually looking > rather annoyed as one > >absolute classic after another (Final Frontier, > Magnese) was being dropped > >only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from the > crowd. How must a DJ > >feel when they are faced by banks of motionless people > looking at them spin > >some records? TJJ ~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: (313) Detroit clothing - sporty angle
Alas, I can no longer fit all of my Mumford gear. 12 years can wreak havoc on a body... (I'm a proud Mustang!) -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:12 PM To: Rob Theakston Cc: Jason Donnelly; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit clothing - sporty angle go old school. get something from mumford (a la beverly hills cop). On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rob Theakston wrote: > and just what the hell is wrong with the red wings?!? they're a fine team! > they assembled one of the best hockey squads of all time last year! > > there's a couple minor league things going on, but the only one that comes > to mind is the Whalers, and they're based in the comfy suburbian wasteland > that's plymouth (about 20 miles outside of Detroit). There's the Detroit > Shock, which is the women's basketball team, and I do believe the Detroit > Drive is still playing arena football. > > anyone else think of any? > > - theakstonov > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:36 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Detroit clothing - sporty angle > > > Afternoon all! > > Good friend is flying to Detroit for a couple of days and asked if there > was anything I would like. Looking for the less 'obvious' sporting team > tops, i.e. not the Red Wings or Tigers. > > any suggestions??? are there any minor league ice hockey/ baseball teams in > the D?? > > thanks > > jason > >
RE: (313) Detroit clothing - sporty angle
go old school. get something from mumford (a la beverly hills cop). On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rob Theakston wrote: > and just what the hell is wrong with the red wings?!? they're a fine team! > they assembled one of the best hockey squads of all time last year! > > there's a couple minor league things going on, but the only one that comes > to mind is the Whalers, and they're based in the comfy suburbian wasteland > that's plymouth (about 20 miles outside of Detroit). There's the Detroit > Shock, which is the women's basketball team, and I do believe the Detroit > Drive is still playing arena football. > > anyone else think of any? > > - theakstonov > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:36 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Detroit clothing - sporty angle > > > Afternoon all! > > Good friend is flying to Detroit for a couple of days and asked if there > was anything I would like. Looking for the less 'obvious' sporting team > tops, i.e. not the Red Wings or Tigers. > > any suggestions??? are there any minor league ice hockey/ baseball teams in > the D?? > > thanks > > jason > >
RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
There's good deep house in Sydney, like Mad Racket parties, it's just very underground. There's excellent DJs like Simon Caldwell. Honkytonks is THE CLUB in Melbourne. It's funny they get all these big Australian commercial DJs calling there begging to play to enhance their cred and they're like No. There's a lot of deep house in Melbourne so maybe come down here. One of the best crews is El Barrio. Then there's Deep North (linked to tiptop web site). There's also Soul'sa who combine the best of Detroit and Chicago and are totally on it. WOW, which is Liz Millar's thing, but maybe more garage. The whole spectrum of deep house. The thing is these crews don't advertise much, it's word of mouth (always very strong in Melbourne). > Inbox Message > > From: "Patrick Wacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > Date: 05/11/2002 12:04:53 > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > > I agree, it's pretty hard to find real deep house in Sydney. It may pop up > once in a while at a one off party or on the radio, but mostly it's pretty > weak off-shoots. > > After spending the weekend down in Melbourne, it's definately a great place > to hear deep house... and I gotta say Angela Maison really throws it down @ > Honkey Tonks on Saturday nights. Man, she was playing some great tracks. One > of Melbourne's best dj's! > > Peace, > Patrick. > > -Original Message- > From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:00 AM > To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit > Subject: Re: (313) deep house (was 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills) > > > i'm a deep house (among other genres) dj who moved (back) to sydney after 10 > years in new york. i can't get a booking playing deep house here. i get > booked to play techno and electro. > the stuff that people in sydney call deep house has nothing to do with the > stuff i play. > i go to nights billed as deep house here and they're playing progressive. > laylo and bushwacka are't deep house, and nor are peace division. > > i hope someone can prove me wrong and tell me where they're playing real > house in sydney, i realy really want to go dancing. > > maybe melbounre is better (i did get booked to play a house set in melbourne > at a club called honkytonks, but my records box never showed up). > james >
