(313) The Neptunes & Yam Who

2003-09-02 Thread Phonopsia
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: (313) The Neptunes & Kraftwerk


> Chad Hugo is fully into electronic music, he knows his music like nobody,
> The Neptunes is an equal partnership but most people recognise Pharrell.
> Chad is into Depeche Mode and used to collect Plus 8 stuff and concocts
> amazing beats. You can hear him on the new Bryan Zentz album playing sax,
> too, and Bryan gets props in the Clones credits. Chad is probably my
biggest
> hero outside of techno/house at the moment, him and Pharrell. Pharrell's
> Frontin' is my single of the year. I just love the chord changes and the
> spacy arrangement and jazz feel. I wish Carl Craig could remix it. The
> Clones album is total genius.


I knew I'd heard it recently, but didn't realize this was Neptunes-related.
Cheerist I need to follow-up on some of those Neptues proddings I keep
getting. At any rate, the reason for my post is that the 5th Yam Who record
is a re-edit of "Frontin'" and it sounds bad as hell from the online audio.
Should have it in my mits tomorrow for a full review. For those who have
heard the other Yam Who's, I can see the drool rolling down your chins
already. Act quickly!

Tristan
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Re: (313) The Neptunes & Kraftwerk

2003-09-02 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Chad Hugo is fully into electronic music, he knows his music like nobody, 
The Neptunes is an equal partnership but most people recognise Pharrell.
Chad is into Depeche Mode and used to collect Plus 8 stuff and concocts
amazing beats. You can hear him on the new Bryan Zentz album playing sax,
too, and Bryan gets props in the Clones credits. Chad is probably my biggest
hero outside of techno/house at the moment, him and Pharrell. Pharrell's
Frontin' is my single of the year. I just love the chord changes and the
spacy arrangement and jazz feel. I wish Carl Craig could remix it. The
Clones album is total genius.

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>To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: (313) The Neptunes & Kraftwerk
>Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 5:50 AM
>

> Check out Busta Rhymes' new single:  "Light Your Ass On
> Fire"--produced by The Neptunes and found on The
> Neptunes Present:  The Clones album (there's also a
> video out for this song).  The intro synthesizer motif
> sounds like a nod to Kraftwerk's "Trans Europe Express"
> and the metallic rhythms of the body of the track sound
> like a nod to "Metal On Metal" methinks. Thoughts?
> Andrew Duke
>
> out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org
> Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk
> Sprung http://bip-hop.com
> http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php?
> cat=BLEEP12&fc_type=CD
> *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee*
> More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com
> Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com
> Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com
> 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com
> Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation
> http://cognitionaudioworks.com


(313) Tips

2003-09-02 Thread Phonopsia
The Groovetech sale is crazy. 50-70% off lots of good stuffs. I spent all
w/e going through it and came out with about 50 records, many at £2. Most of
it's older, so I won't post up anything unless it's really seizing me.
However, I picked up my VJ order today and have some more coming from
Piccadilly tomorrow. So... for now let me recommend highly the Brooks remix
of Chief Beef, which is dpe. Piccadilly called it 'deep rave'.
:) Brooks also has a new hip house remix on Mantis 024 that I picked up @
Koobla today, which is also very tasty. And I know it isn't explicitly
[313], but there must be some Madlib fans out there or people who picked up
the first Dudley Perkins 7" - Flowers. Anyway, the album is out now, and it
is crazy! Really great stuff. I have doubles of 'Flowers' now too. :) Don't
sleep b/c I'm sure it'll go fast - like those Andres, Moxie 03 and Dan
Curtin which I can't seem to find and have no money left for even if I
could. :(

Tristan
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(313) The Neptunes & Kraftwerk

2003-09-02 Thread andrewduke
Check out Busta Rhymes' new single:  "Light Your Ass On
Fire"--produced by The Neptunes and found on The
Neptunes Present:  The Clones album (there's also a
video out for this song).  The intro synthesizer motif
sounds like a nod to Kraftwerk's "Trans Europe Express"
and the metallic rhythms of the body of the track sound
like a nod to "Metal On Metal" methinks. Thoughts?
Andrew Duke

out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org
Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk
Sprung http://bip-hop.com 
http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php?
cat=BLEEP12&fc_type=CD 
*Canadian electronica album of the year nominee*
More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com
Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com
Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 
74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com
Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation 
http://cognitionaudioworks.com


(313) Designer Music

2003-09-02 Thread Chris Anglesey

Hello,

I'm looking to buy a copy of Designer Music Volume 1 (12") and was wondering
if anyone out there had a copy
they wanted to sell (i'm willing to pay the asking price).

Please e-mail me privately ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chris.





(313) Dj Bone - Vibeflow Mix - Track I.D

2003-09-02 Thread Mario Atienza
Hi Friends

Does anybody know the first track of that mix ? the sound is like Red
Planet. In a spanish expression" I have the name in the point of my
tongue !! " but I don´t remember.

Thanks in Advance



(313) tna003 audio

2003-09-02 Thread marsel

check these tunes

these sound goood

> Here is already a preview for Technoir Audio 003, produced by Shawn
Rudiman
> and Arne Weinberg, upcoming in october.
>
> Shawn Rudiman:
>  a1 - http://ratana.chemlab.org/technoir/tna003-a1.ram
>  a2 - http://ratana.chemlab.org/technoir/tna003-a2.ram
>  a3 - http://ratana.chemlab.org/technoir/tna003-a3.ram
>
> Arne Weinberg:
>  aa1 - http://ratana.chemlab.org/technoir/tna003-aa1.ram
>  aa2 - http://ratana.chemlab.org/technoir/tna003-aa2.ram




Re: (313) Brinkmann set

2003-09-02 Thread m a t t [d]
> them, but are there any of these in particular that someone can
> recommend?  I didn't have time to get through the huge bin of them and
> any tips on "best of the lot" are appreciated?

my favourite of these records is Xenia / Wanda.

there's a collection of some of them on the "Rosa" album CD ERNST014


01Doris 2
02Olga 1
03Xenia 1
04Xenia 2
05   Erika 2
06Anna 1
07Clara 1
08Inge 1
09Nicola 1
10Susi 1
11Ulla 1
12Yvette 1

oh and another favourite of mine is ester brinkmann - der ubersetzer - il
traduttore (on suppose supp16-9) a cd where he uses samples that sound like
the come from language comprehension tapes - very very interesting to listen
to, though definitely one for going places with yr eyes closed lying on the
couch than for club play.

matt :)

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Re: (313) (OT) Plastic crates

2003-09-02 Thread Andrew
On 2/9/03 6:48 pm, "Allen Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> milk crates can be found at any hardware store
> 
> :)

You can get those multi-coloured fold-up crates from yer 10-a-penny
we-sell-everything shop down the high st. They do the job, and they're
reasonably priced. (£2-£5 each)


> 
>> afternoon once again,
>> 
>> does anyone know of any stores in the UK that stock plastic crates
>> which are suitable for storing records?  i'm looking for crates which
>> are record-sized, if you know what i mean.  the sort of thing that
>> Spybox (www.spybox.co.uk) make would be perfect, except they're rather
>> expensive given that i may need a couple of dozen.
>> 
>> i'm sure this has been brought-up before - iirc Mr Tom had some
>> suggestions - so apologies for re-hashing old OT ground.
>> 
>> ta
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rob
> 



Re: (313) (OT) Plastic crates

2003-09-02 Thread T.J.Johnson
Unfortunately, you can only fit 5 or so records into a
milk-crate---diagonally!!!  =)

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 12:48:36 -0500 (EST), "Allen
Goodman" wrote:

> 
> milk crates can be found at any hardware store
> 
> :)
> 
> > afternoon once again,
> >
> > does anyone know of any stores in the UK that stock
> plastic crates
> > which are suitable for storing records?  i'm looking
> for crates which
> > are record-sized, if you know what i mean.  the sort
> of thing that
> > Spybox (www.spybox.co.uk) make would be perfect,
> except they're rather
> > expensive given that i may need a couple of dozen.
> >
> > i'm sure this has been brought-up before - iirc Mr
> Tom had some
> > suggestions - so apologies for re-hashing old OT
> ground.
> >
> > ta
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob
> 
> 
> -- 
> Allen Goodman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.fksche.com

TJJ

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Re: (313) (OT) Plastic crates

2003-09-02 Thread Allen Goodman
milk crates can be found at any hardware store

:)

> afternoon once again,
>
> does anyone know of any stores in the UK that stock plastic crates
> which are suitable for storing records?  i'm looking for crates which
> are record-sized, if you know what i mean.  the sort of thing that
> Spybox (www.spybox.co.uk) make would be perfect, except they're rather
> expensive given that i may need a couple of dozen.
>
> i'm sure this has been brought-up before - iirc Mr Tom had some
> suggestions - so apologies for re-hashing old OT ground.
>
> ta
>
>
>
> Rob


-- 
Allen Goodman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fksche.com




(313) (OT) Plastic crates

2003-09-02 Thread Rob Webb
afternoon once again,

does anyone know of any stores in the UK that stock plastic crates which
are suitable for storing records?  i'm looking for crates which are
record-sized, if you know what i mean.  the sort of thing that Spybox
(www.spybox.co.uk) make would be perfect, except they're rather
expensive given that i may need a couple of dozen.

i'm sure this has been brought-up before - iirc Mr Tom had some
suggestions - so apologies for re-hashing old OT ground.

ta



Rob


Re: (313) Brinkmann set

2003-09-02 Thread Matt MacQueen


On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


contains material mostly from the series of records that came out with 
the

orange jackets, and a female name on each side...



the orange series cuts are killer (in my opinion)


I know there are a ton of those orange ones with the women's names on 
them, but are there any of these in particular that someone can 
recommend?  I didn't have time to get through the huge bin of them and 
any tips on "best of the lot" are appreciated?


peace
Matt MacQueen



(313) OT: Toronto events/record shops?

2003-09-02 Thread science
Hi folks,
I'll be in Ontario from Friday 5th to Tuesday 16th, and was wondering if
anyone knew of any 313-like events taking place in the Hamilton/Toronto
area, or could recommend some decent shops to buy vinyl. I'm already
familiar with play de record, and metropolis in Toronto. Thanks in
advance.
don




RE: (313) Brinkmann set

2003-09-02 Thread science
There are a couple of live Brinkmann sets in the Mutek.ca archives.
Recorded in 2000 I believe. The one that starts with the track "who in the
funk do you think you are?" is more to my liking than the other. This set
contains material mostly from the series of records that came out with the
orange jackets, and a female name on each side. It is one of my favorite
sets to listen to, and in spots, you can hear the crowd "going bananas". I
believe there are some tracks of the Soul Center releases played also, but
the orange series cuts are killer (in my opinion). Enjoy,
don


>>> (Ken) Still haven't got over Soul Center, frankly
>>>
>>
>>I agree, but personally found Soul Center #3 a profound disappointment,
>> compared to the excellence of vols. 1 and 2.   I gave #3 plenty of
>> earnest listens but it just wasn't there - which really surprised me
>> too.  Sad kinda, because that one got LOADS more press/hype the the
>> previous two (probably because there was a Mute connection on vol. 3,
>> right?)
>>
>>cheers,
>>Matt MacQueen
>
> I guess you are right Matt. The problem with me is that (AFAIK) I've
> never heard anything from the previous volumes so I've nothing to
> compare 3 with. It still seems an excellent and unstrained use of
> samples and
> up-to-the-minute glitchy techno/house. If he's done better I really need
> to hear that!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ken





(313) Contemporhythms

2003-09-02 Thread Rob Webb
afternoon all,

has anyone got a tracklisting for Theo's 2 Contemporhythms cds?  i've
had a nose around online, but haven't been able to turn one up.

ta



Rob


RE: (313) Axis @ The End

2003-09-02 Thread ian cheshire
I think so :)

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Re: (313) Axis @ The End

2003-09-02 Thread Placid
So we've missed it already ?

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(313) Axis @ The End

2003-09-02 Thread Gary . Girard



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Re: (313) Sad news: Club Tresor is Shut

2003-09-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Weird, I was just watching this show on cable this weekend about the
rebuilding of Potzdammer Platz and was telling my wife that the club was
slated to be sold or shut down some time soon and then made a comment that
we should visit before it does.
Haven't the "authorities" been trying to close Tresor for some time now
because it sits on property that has seen a *huge* increase in value?
Seems like they finally got their excuse.

MEK



  
  deep-z
  
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:   
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   cc:  
  
  09/02/03 03:18 AMSubject:  (313) Sad news: Club 
Tresor is Shut  
  Please respond to 
  
  deep-z
  

  

  





Hello everyone...

..I hope that's only temporary ... but who knows... :/
anyway - read on...

deep-z,
http://deep.live.lv


> I don't even know where to start about last Saturday.
>
> The Aphorism is a 4 man band from the south of Germany, and they have
> releases coming up on Framework.
>
> They came up from Freiburg on Saturday to peform at Tresor.
>
> When we showed up at the club for the sound check, there was water
> every
> where.  The club has low 10 ft ceilings, and they had some how set up
> one of
> those out door umbrellas down there.
>
> There was a leak.  There was a table for them to set up on, and they
> realized soon that there was a leak directly above this table.  The
> one that
> they were about to put thousands of dollars of electronic equipment
> on.
>
> So the light guy on the sound guy were working on some way to keep
> the water
> off of them.
>
> They found a large banner/tarp which had a picture of Juan Atkins,
> Derrick
> Carter and Kevin Saunderson (These are famous techno folk for those
> of you
> who don't know) and used it as a sort of umbrella with a couple of
> rods
> holding it up.
>
> The process took about an hour, and it was quite rediculous to watch.
>
> Eventually the guys started their live performance, at 2 am.  It was
> going
> pretty well, until the drum machine started acting funny because it
> had
> gotten too much water on it.
>
> The word was now spreading downstairs (there are two floors in
> Tresor) that
> there was a bunch of police upstairs, and they were checking every
> one for
> drugs.
>
> People stayed downstairs, and kept partying.
>
> While I was watching them perform, a member of the crowd came up to
> me and
> said something in German.  Eventually he asked me who I am, I said,
> Bob
> Brown.
>
> And he said... "Bob Brown, no, really?  You are not Bob Brown..."
>
> He stepped away, and came back:  "Really, you are Bob Brown?  Prove
> it, so I
> showed him my driver's license."
>
> He went over and got his friend, and I heard him saying "Bob Brown is
> here!!!"
>
> Very very crazy, quite a trip really.  He wanted me to sign his
> shirt, but I
> didn't have a marker.
>
> I signed a sticker for him, and told him to sign up for the
> newsletter.
>
> So then the cops came downstairs, and wanted identification from the
> band.
> While they were performing.  Crazy!  The best part was, that the
> space
> behind the table was very tight, and the police officer was trying to
> squeeze through, and the band member (Markus) was dancing and rubbing
> his
> ass all over her, while she tried to get buy.  It was very funny.
>
> Just after that happened, a leak let loose in the tarp above their
> heads,
> and all this water poured down right where he was moving his mouse.
> Crazy,
> they cleaned it up and put an empty glass under the leak...
>
> The DJ who was supposed to go on after the band hadn't show up yet,
> so we
> figured that he had gotten caught up in the Police mess upstairs.
>
> The DJ who was on earlier played again, and soon enough the police
> shut down
> the party downstairs.  Ironically enough, he was playing a Bob Brown
> record
> when they told him to shut it off.  I figure that was the last straw
> for
> them.  They had heard enough crazy music, and that was beyond their
> limit.
>
> The Police escorted every one out two by two, and gave each person a
> thorough search, and then take their information dow

RE: (313) OT: Burning Man

2003-09-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Sounds like Burning Man is the US equivalent to Glastonbury - there are plenty 
of freaks there who spend the week begging for food and cider

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LOL! Gotta love the Onion -

"faulty van-borrowing arrangements.and the last-minute realization that
transportation to the Burning Man festival requires money."


MEK




  
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Man
  09/01/03 08:09 AM 
  

  

  




> http://www.burningman.com
>
> Has anybody been to this festival before ? Im tempted to gather some folk
> and mission across from the UK next year - if anyone has any experience /
> advice on doing this that would be great !

I've never beem, although I know a lot of people who have and say it's an
incredible, life-changing experience.

On the flipside:

http://www.theonion.com/current_top_story.html

:)

Cheers,

Tom




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RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)

2003-09-02 Thread plaztikjezuz


> Just my not-all-that-serious way of saying what bc said + it has the added
> attraction of allowing unlimited amount of cd burning fr that vinyl ... ot
> that I'm encouraging anyone to do that, mind - but if you do, at least you
> would still have bought at least one copy of the record :-)
> 
> . more serioulsy, how does copy-prevention work? I'm envisaging putting
> in a cd which plays on my cd deck at home, the phono out goes to the mixer,
> the mixer has a record out which can go to md or computer - if it plays it
> can be copied. How does any copy protect stop me? (I'm assuming it will only
> work on pcs?)
> 
you dont even have to use a mixer, mind yea i used a mac.
for the radio show i used to have to copy cd's to my computer all the time.
i wanted to play a radiohead track so i barrowed the cd from the station. i 
tried to copy the cd to mp3 for me. would not work because one of the ways i 
import cd to the program i use (pro tools) is to import a wav file. so i was 
screwed there, so i decided to bus the internal cd player to the record bus in 
the program and it totally copied it my computer and i was able to use the song.
the end.
so as long as i can hear the music, it can be copied.
not that i endorse that.

scotto
plaztikjezuz.com


Re: (313) OT: Burning Man

2003-09-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




LOL! Gotta love the Onion -

"faulty van-borrowing arrangements.and the last-minute realization that
transportation to the Burning Man festival requires money."


MEK




  
  Tom Churchill 
  
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "Langsman, Marc" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org> 
  rdings.com>  cc:  
  
   Subject:  Re: (313) OT: Burning 
Man
  09/01/03 08:09 AM 
  

  

  




> http://www.burningman.com
>
> Has anybody been to this festival before ? Im tempted to gather some folk
> and mission across from the UK next year - if anyone has any experience /
> advice on doing this that would be great !

I've never beem, although I know a lot of people who have and say it's an
incredible, life-changing experience.

On the flipside:

http://www.theonion.com/current_top_story.html

:)

Cheers,

Tom






Re: (313) Big up to Blaktronics

2003-09-02 Thread Matt MacQueen

some very very funky, futuristic, techjazzy tracks

pretty along the lines of aardvarck, nubian mindz, dego. .

good to see reflective is back in business as well


agreed!   I was lucky enough to attend the Reflective record release 
party for this 12" in San Francisco a few months ago, they played an 
amazing live set that was all over the place stylistically, and 
brilliant throughout.   A nice long PA too!  These guys can bring it 
live.   It was a packed into a little bar called The Top that has this 
back room and tiny dance floor that was gettin busy.   After that Jonah 
Sharpe from Reflective spun a nice little techno/electro set, and 
definitely pushed the energey up a notch when he dropped 69 "My 
Machines"  a nice moment.


As for Blacktronics followers -- also check out the more abstract and 
yet more varied Soil.Sole ep on MOVING records... even more different 
stuff and some spoken word moods too.


best,
Matt MacQueen



RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)

2003-09-02 Thread Ryan Snowden
There's a movie in that :)

|-Original Message-
|From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Sent: 02 September 2003 13:40
|To: Odeluga, Ken
|Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
|Subject: RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)
|
|
|
|> . more serioulsy, how does copy-prevention work? I'm envisaging 
|> putting in a cd which plays on my cd deck at home, the phono 
|out goes 
|> to the mixer, the mixer has a record out which can go to md or 
|> computer - if it plays it can be copied. How does any copy protect 
|> stop me? (I'm assuming it will only work on pcs?)
|
|the only copy protection that'll stop you here is one that 
|will stop u hearing itso it's impossible :)
|
|the thing they want to stop is direct digital copies using cdrs
|
|robin...
|


RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)

2003-09-02 Thread Paul Hudson
> >>'Buy Vinyl' ;-)

Amen.
 
> . more serioulsy, how does copy-prevention work? I'm 
> envisaging putting in a cd which plays on my cd deck at home, 
> the phono out goes to the mixer, the mixer has a record out 
> which can go to md or computer - if it plays it can be 
> copied. How does any copy protect stop me? (I'm assuming it 
> will only work on pcs?)

Yes, you can still do an audio copy of a CD that has copy protection.
What copy protection tries to do is to prevent you from doing a digital
-> digital copy.  You can still run the cd through a DAC and copy it
that way.

Simply, copy protection works buy putting deliberate errors on the cd.
So when trying to do a digital -> digital copy, the software will detect
an error an not be able to do a copy.  However, when playing a cd the cd
playing will give it a 'nearest guess' and thus the cd will play.

This does mean that audio quality of copy protected cds is inferior to
none copy protected cds but the industry doesn't care about this.  Never
mind providing the consumer with quality when you can squeeze them to
get the maximum amount of money.



RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)

2003-09-02 Thread robin pinning

> . more serioulsy, how does copy-prevention work? I'm envisaging putting
> in a cd which plays on my cd deck at home, the phono out goes to the mixer,
> the mixer has a record out which can go to md or computer - if it plays it
> can be copied. How does any copy protect stop me? (I'm assuming it will only
> work on pcs?)

the only copy protection that'll stop you here is one that will stop u
hearing itso it's impossible :)

the thing they want to stop is direct digital copies using cdrs

robin...



RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)

2003-09-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken

>>
>>'Buy Vinyl' ;-)
>>
>>k

>Wonderful advice if your main listening venue isn't your car - but in this
>case it is. And the CD is *not* copy protected (as was reported), so maybe
>I'm missing the point (?).
>
> jeff


Just my not-all-that-serious way of saying what bc said + it has the added
attraction of allowing unlimited amount of cd burning fr that vinyl ... ot
that I'm encouraging anyone to do that, mind - but if you do, at least you
would still have bought at least one copy of the record :-)

. more serioulsy, how does copy-prevention work? I'm envisaging putting
in a cd which plays on my cd deck at home, the phono out goes to the mixer,
the mixer has a record out which can go to md or computer - if it plays it
can be copied. How does any copy protect stop me? (I'm assuming it will only
work on pcs?)

>-Original Message-
>From: The REAL Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 5:51 PM
>To: Odeluga, Ken
>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)
>
>
>At 09:46 AM 8/29/2003, you wrote:
>>In the famous words of Basic Channel:
>>
>>'Buy Vinyl' ;-)
>>
>>k
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: The REAL Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:43 PM
>> >To: 313@hyperreal.org
>> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: (313) new Kraftwerk (copy-protected?)
>> >
>> >
>> >Mine wasn't - it was an UK press.
>> >
>> >   jeff
>
>Wonderful advice if your main listening venue isn't your car - but in this
>case it is. And the CD is *not* copy protected (as was reported), so maybe
>I'm missing the point (?).
>
> jeff
>
>
>


Re: (313) OT-ADMIN resubbing after holiday

2003-09-02 Thread T.J.Johnson
I just re-subbed after about a year off-list.  I just
did the email thing and it took a few days for it to
kick in, but it did work...

I think you can email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to speak
to the moderator...

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:44:04 +0100 (BST), robin pinning
wrote:

> 
> 
> soz for this but is george still the moderator/admin
> (whatever the word
> is! :) ) for this list ?
> 
> alex bond is trying to get back on after his holiday
> and can't...is there
> a way of doing this that i don't know about?
> 
> cheers and soz again for OTness
> 
> robin...

TJJ

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(313) OT-ADMIN resubbing after holiday

2003-09-02 Thread robin pinning

soz for this but is george still the moderator/admin (whatever the word
is! :) ) for this list ?

alex bond is trying to get back on after his holiday and can't...is there
a way of doing this that i don't know about?

cheers and soz again for OTness

robin...



Re: (313) Big up to Blaktronics

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Churchill
Gotta second this recommendation - the Reflective EP is quality, looking
forward to playing this on a big system at the weekend. Heavy, heavy broken
beat action with great dubbed out fx and general weirdness. I can imagine it
tearing up the floor at Co-Op...

> Hi List-
> 
> if anyone is interested in fantastic, stripped down, weird
> "electro-funk/tech-hop meets broken beat" that rattles around inside
> your brain for days after listening they should check out "Blaktronics-
> This is your brain on drugs"  EP on Jonah Shape's Reflective label-
> really quite incredible stuff- they also have releases on German label
> Moving Records which are more vocal oriented (but still pretty strange)
> 
> Jason Brunton
> 



Re: (313) Big up to Blaktronics

2003-09-02 Thread marsel

oh yes, yes !

especially the two tracks on the a side of the reflective release are very
outter space!

some very very funky, futuristic, techjazzy tracks

pretty along the lines of aardvarck, nubian mindz, dego. .

good to see reflective is back in business as well

- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Brunton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: (313) Big up to Blaktronics


> Hi List-
>
> if anyone is interested in fantastic, stripped down, weird
> "electro-funk/tech-hop meets broken beat" that rattles around inside
> your brain for days after listening they should check out "Blaktronics-
> This is your brain on drugs"  EP on Jonah Shape's Reflective label-
> really quite incredible stuff- they also have releases on German label
> Moving Records which are more vocal oriented (but still pretty strange)
>
> Jason Brunton
>
>




RE: (313) Big up to Blaktronics

2003-09-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 as 'heads-upped' already in July at http://bleep43.com ;-)

k

>-Original Message-
>From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:35 AM
>To: 313
>Subject: (313) Big up to Blaktronics
>
>
>Hi List-
>
>if anyone is interested in fantastic, stripped down, weird 
>"electro-funk/tech-hop meets broken beat" that rattles around inside 
>your brain for days after listening they should check out "Blaktronics- 
>This is your brain on drugs"  EP on Jonah Shape's Reflective label- 
>really quite incredible stuff- they also have releases on German label 
>Moving Records which are more vocal oriented (but still pretty strange)
>
>Jason Brunton
>
>


(313) Big up to Blaktronics

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Brunton

Hi List-

if anyone is interested in fantastic, stripped down, weird 
"electro-funk/tech-hop meets broken beat" that rattles around inside 
your brain for days after listening they should check out "Blaktronics- 
This is your brain on drugs"  EP on Jonah Shape's Reflective label- 
really quite incredible stuff- they also have releases on German label 
Moving Records which are more vocal oriented (but still pretty strange)


Jason Brunton



RE: (313) Brinkmann

2003-09-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>> (Ken) Still haven't got over Soul Center, frankly
>>
>
>I agree, but personally found Soul Center #3 a profound disappointment,
>compared to the excellence of vols. 1 and 2.   I gave #3 plenty of
>earnest listens but it just wasn't there - which really surprised me
>too.  Sad kinda, because that one got LOADS more press/hype the the
>previous two (probably because there was a Mute connection on vol. 3,
>right?)
>
>cheers,
>Matt MacQueen

I guess you are right Matt. The problem with me is that (AFAIK) I've never
heard anything from the previous volumes so I've nothing to compare 3 with.
It still seems an excellent and unstrained use of samples and
up-to-the-minute glitchy techno/house. If he's done better I really need to
hear that!

Cheers,

Ken


>
>


(313) Sad news: Club Tresor is Shut

2003-09-02 Thread deep-z

Hello everyone...

..I hope that's only temporary ... but who knows... :/
anyway - read on...

deep-z,
http://deep.live.lv


> I don't even know where to start about last Saturday.
>
> The Aphorism is a 4 man band from the south of Germany, and they have
> releases coming up on Framework.
>
> They came up from Freiburg on Saturday to peform at Tresor.
>
> When we showed up at the club for the sound check, there was water
> every
> where.  The club has low 10 ft ceilings, and they had some how set up
> one of
> those out door umbrellas down there.
>
> There was a leak.  There was a table for them to set up on, and they
> realized soon that there was a leak directly above this table.  The
> one that
> they were about to put thousands of dollars of electronic equipment
> on.
>
> So the light guy on the sound guy were working on some way to keep
> the water
> off of them.
>
> They found a large banner/tarp which had a picture of Juan Atkins,
> Derrick
> Carter and Kevin Saunderson (These are famous techno folk for those
> of you
> who don't know) and used it as a sort of umbrella with a couple of
> rods
> holding it up.
>
> The process took about an hour, and it was quite rediculous to watch.
>
> Eventually the guys started their live performance, at 2 am.  It was
> going
> pretty well, until the drum machine started acting funny because it
> had
> gotten too much water on it.
>
> The word was now spreading downstairs (there are two floors in
> Tresor) that
> there was a bunch of police upstairs, and they were checking every
> one for
> drugs.
>
> People stayed downstairs, and kept partying.
>
> While I was watching them perform, a member of the crowd came up to
> me and
> said something in German.  Eventually he asked me who I am, I said,
> Bob
> Brown.
>
> And he said... "Bob Brown, no, really?  You are not Bob Brown..."
>
> He stepped away, and came back:  "Really, you are Bob Brown?  Prove
> it, so I
> showed him my driver's license."
>
> He went over and got his friend, and I heard him saying "Bob Brown is
> here!!!"
>
> Very very crazy, quite a trip really.  He wanted me to sign his
> shirt, but I
> didn't have a marker.
>
> I signed a sticker for him, and told him to sign up for the
> newsletter.
>
> So then the cops came downstairs, and wanted identification from the
> band.
> While they were performing.  Crazy!  The best part was, that the
> space
> behind the table was very tight, and the police officer was trying to
> squeeze through, and the band member (Markus) was dancing and rubbing
> his
> ass all over her, while she tried to get buy.  It was very funny.
>
> Just after that happened, a leak let loose in the tarp above their
> heads,
> and all this water poured down right where he was moving his mouse.
> Crazy,
> they cleaned it up and put an empty glass under the leak...
>
> The DJ who was supposed to go on after the band hadn't show up yet,
> so we
> figured that he had gotten caught up in the Police mess upstairs.
>
> The DJ who was on earlier played again, and soon enough the police
> shut down
> the party downstairs.  Ironically enough, he was playing a Bob Brown
> record
> when they told him to shut it off.  I figure that was the last straw
> for
> them.  They had heard enough crazy music, and that was beyond their
> limit.
>
> The Police escorted every one out two by two, and gave each person a
> thorough search, and then take their information down.
>
> When I got outside I realized that there were about 300 police
> involved in
> this operation.  They had flood lights, and enough paddy wagons to
> take all
> 600 people that were at the club to jail.
>
> The Police ended only found 28 people with drugs.
>
> The whole thing was very strange.
>
> The club is closed for further review.  Unreal!  Tresor is closed.
>
> Let us hope that my record won't be the last one played in Tresor.
>
> I will be posting some pictures and video of the night on the
> Framework
> website.
>
> I am in Freiburg, with the Aphorism.  I am 20 minutes from
> Switzerland, and
> 30 minutes from France.  How about that.
>
> Sort of a half vacation, will be going to the black forest, and the
> Largest
> European theme park.
>
> I am cooking the guys dinner tomorrow night.  Roasted Chickens,
> Mashed Sweet
> Potatoes and Some type of Green.  I would do Collards, but I don't
> think I
> will find em over here.  I will probably go with Swiss Chard, some
> beans and
> Greens
>
> I will talk to you all soon...
>
> I am sure I will have another story after this weekend.   I am
> playing here
> in Freiburg on Friday, and then in Stuttgart on Saturday night.
>
> Bye bye.
>
> Bob.




Re: (313) rolling stones??

2003-09-02 Thread disco

sounds like the white stripes - 7 nation army

ed612313 wrote:


desperate for this
sorry for being a mega pain
words are
im going to fight them off
a seven nation army couldnt hold me back
they going to rip it off
taking ther time right behind my back
am i talking to myself or not because i cant forget
back and forth through my mind i have a cigarette (???)
?
someone told me it is a second hands herbert record???
it has a fat arse bass line (mega!) and a guitar riff
sounds a bit like an old rock track (rolling stones)
shake plays it a fair bit.
peace
ed
ps thanks in advance!




- Original Message -
From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mislav Bobich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs


 


For a limited time only, you can download the KWUR Titonton set from my
site:

www.negative-industries.com/febbo
follow the link to the music page.

here is a direct link to the file:

   


http://www.negative-industries.com/febbo/titonton_duvante_-_live_at_kwur_kan
ned_beatz_3_-_2-21-02.mp3
 


it will be removed by wednesday due to limited space.

have fun
fab



- Original Message -
From: "Mislav Bobich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Fabrizio Nahum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs


   


Hi Fab

I am interested re Titonton set. Also If not mistaken there was one on
Groovetech some time ago.

Anyhow would appreciate to have this one.

Take care,
Mislav


-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs

Hi

i wanted to delight you with a link to a nice Titonton set but the
website
is under construction.
the site in question is www.technoradio.org (St. Louis radio station
KWUR
90.3FM). They were hosting a mix from a set Titonton did in 2-21-02 at
KWUR
and it is called Live at Kanned Beatz. You may find it on slsk.
If you dont, i can share it for you. Drop me a line.

fab


 



   



 





RE: (313) rolling stones??

2003-09-02 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
I think it was discussed a moment ago on this list, might be a "Slide vs White 
Stripes" bootleg of the White Stripes' "Seven nation army" single
Gwendal

> -Original Message-
> From: ed612313 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:57 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) rolling stones??
> 
> 
> desperate for this
> sorry for being a mega pain
> words are
> im going to fight them off
> a seven nation army couldnt hold me back
> they going to rip it off
> taking ther time right behind my back
> am i talking to myself or not because i cant forget
> back and forth through my mind i have a cigarette (???)
> ?
> someone told me it is a second hands herbert record???
> it has a fat arse bass line (mega!) and a guitar riff
> sounds a bit like an old rock track (rolling stones)
> shake plays it a fair bit.
> peace
> ed
> ps thanks in advance!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mislav Bobich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs
> 
> 
> > For a limited time only, you can download the KWUR Titonton 
> set from my
> > site:
> >
> > www.negative-industries.com/febbo
> > follow the link to the music page.
> >
> > here is a direct link to the file:
> >
> http://www.negative-industries.com/febbo/titonton_duvante_-_li
ve_at_kwur_kan
ned_beatz_3_-_2-21-02.mp3
>
> it will be removed by wednesday due to limited space.
>
> have fun
> fab
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mislav Bobich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Fabrizio Nahum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:27 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs
>
>
> > Hi Fab
> >
> > I am interested re Titonton set. Also If not mistaken there was one on
> > Groovetech some time ago.
> >
> > Anyhow would appreciate to have this one.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Mislav
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:06 PM
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > i wanted to delight you with a link to a nice Titonton set but the
> > website
> > is under construction.
> > the site in question is www.technoradio.org (St. Louis radio station
> > KWUR
> > 90.3FM). They were hosting a mix from a set Titonton did in 2-21-02 at
> > KWUR
> > and it is called Live at Kanned Beatz. You may find it on slsk.
> > If you dont, i can share it for you. Drop me a line.
> >
> > fab
> >
> >
>
>
>



(313) rolling stones??

2003-09-02 Thread ed612313
desperate for this
sorry for being a mega pain
words are
im going to fight them off
a seven nation army couldnt hold me back
they going to rip it off
taking ther time right behind my back
am i talking to myself or not because i cant forget
back and forth through my mind i have a cigarette (???)
?
someone told me it is a second hands herbert record???
it has a fat arse bass line (mega!) and a guitar riff
sounds a bit like an old rock track (rolling stones)
shake plays it a fair bit.
peace
ed
ps thanks in advance!




- Original Message -
From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mislav Bobich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs


> For a limited time only, you can download the KWUR Titonton set from my
> site:
>
> www.negative-industries.com/febbo
> follow the link to the music page.
>
> here is a direct link to the file:
>
http://www.negative-industries.com/febbo/titonton_duvante_-_live_at_kwur_kan
ned_beatz_3_-_2-21-02.mp3
>
> it will be removed by wednesday due to limited space.
>
> have fun
> fab
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mislav Bobich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Fabrizio Nahum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:27 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs
>
>
> > Hi Fab
> >
> > I am interested re Titonton set. Also If not mistaken there was one on
> > Groovetech some time ago.
> >
> > Anyhow would appreciate to have this one.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Mislav
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:06 PM
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) Re: Titonton - was: broken beat DJs
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > i wanted to delight you with a link to a nice Titonton set but the
> > website
> > is under construction.
> > the site in question is www.technoradio.org (St. Louis radio station
> > KWUR
> > 90.3FM). They were hosting a mix from a set Titonton did in 2-21-02 at
> > KWUR
> > and it is called Live at Kanned Beatz. You may find it on slsk.
> > If you dont, i can share it for you. Drop me a line.
> >
> > fab
> >
> >
>
>
>



Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ?

2003-09-02 Thread ed612313
titonton mixes
www.d-i-r-t-y.com (also check the shake mix)
www.betalounge.com with dj anna
www.dublab.com (it used to be here somewhere,not so sure anymore?)
peace
ed
- Original Message - 
From: "David Gillies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: (313) [OT] best broken beats dj ?


> RAW2019 said:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "ed612313" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> titonton duvante
> >
> > i haven't heard any dj performances of him , only live perf.
> > anybody got a link ?
> > I know he's capable !
> 
> I saw him djing in NYC last year. Wow! So much energy. Cutting it up,
> scratching back and forth. Some of the best broken beat tunes I've heard.
> 
> Does anyone know of any Titonton broken beat mixes online?
> 
> 
>