Re: (313) submerge sound clips
it's pretty much always around/available... --- Ramon Crespo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and I now have an oppurtunity to get fix - flash. :) iwasn't around the first time it was out
Re: (313) submerge sound clips
Maarten Baute wrote: http://www.submerge.com/2003/preview.html pssst don't tell anyone Man, those Orlando Voorn records.. whoow... real good stuff! completely agree and I now have an oppurtunity to get fix - flash. :) i wasn't around the first time it was out Regards, Ramon Cheers, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com
Re: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
Well, it's the only version I've heard, and it came out on an Armando retrospective LP on Radikal Fear about 6 years ago. I think that lots of the tracks are believed to be classic (not that I'd know), but the one which totally took my head off was the 1st track - "Welcome II the Warehouse". It still gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. Sadly I only have a CD copy, but I believe vinyl was pressed as well. I'd love to have it on vinly! Dan. At 10:41 am -0700 17/10/03, D B wrote: Hmm.. I didn't know about the Radikal Fear version.I only have and only have heard about the Warehouse version. Is their any different mixes on the Radikal Fear version? Thanks, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know many, but here's my all time favourite - With Armando - Welcome II The Warehouse - Radikal Fear Raw, but absolutely sublime at the same time. How do they do that? Dan.
Re: (313) submerge sound clips
> http://www.submerge.com/2003/preview.html pssst don't tell anyone Man, those Orlando Voorn records.. whoow... real good stuff! Cheers, Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com
Re: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
Hmm.. I didn't know about the Radikal Fear version.I only have and only have heard about the Warehouse version. Is their any different mixes on the Radikal Fear version? Thanks, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know many, but here's my all time favourite - With Armando - Welcome II The Warehouse - Radikal Fear Raw, but absolutely sublime at the same time. How do they do that? Dan.
Re: (313) USA-based online record shops.
Grammenos, Peter wrote: > > I use these quite a bit : > > http://www.dancetracks.com/ > http://www.forcedexposure.com/welcome.html http://www.ear-rational.com/ maybe not so much for 313 stuff but there's always something of interest in there.
Re: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 05:22 pm, Kent williams wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: I wouldn't mind somebody saying what are his most interesting / best releases etc, BTW... Gwendal his third dimension release on target and on djax was pretty tuff.. traxxmen - playing with a rubber band..his ep on muzique.. all banging...
RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: > I wouldn't mind somebody saying what are his most interesting / best releases > etc, BTW... > Gwendal I liked his earliest stuff, especially the album "The Other Side of Me." and the Peacefrog "Bump Talking." The stuff he's done since "Get Down, Down" has seemed a little forced ... nonetheless, I doubt he's made a track in his life that wouldn't bang it on the dance floor.
RE: (313) half baked thought & question (was orbit)
Altered State by Matthew Colin is perhaps the most cogent analysis of the development of UK club culture -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:45 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) half baked thought & question (was orbit) All this reminiscing has me wondering about something - since I live in the US (bear with me as I try to get to the point of what I'm looking for) What books or essays are out there regarding club culture in the UK that work in issues of geographic size of the country and other aspects of social life in the UK? I think I'm looking for something more in depth than Generation Ecstasy/Energy Flash, etc. I've read The Clubcultures Reader (should revisit that). I'm wondering because, in the US, it's unlikely that you'd find a shared experience like the ones you're talking about at the Orbit because of the sheer expansiveness of the US. It would take me three days by car or several hundred dollars to go to NYC or two days to Detroit - whereas in the UK, everything is much closer and compact. That must have a huge influence on clubs and social life. For example, the next closest large city to me would be Chicago but it's an entire day's trip by car and expensive to stay there so I don't go often. Whereas, from my experience, Glasgow is a couple of hours from Edinburgh and fairly inexpensive or I would know people I could stay with in both cities. This has an affect on any kind of "collective" experience and I would expect the clubs and music benefit from it. Not to say it makes it better but just very different from club social life in the US. so- anything I can read that gets into these topics? MEK "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rica.co.uk> 313@hyperreal.org cc: 10/17/03 05:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) orbit I too first went to the Orbit in '95 for CJ Bolland about the time he released the Prophet. Went about 3 out of 4 weeks for the next four years whilst at uni. I think it was the 6th Birthday when I walked through the doors at 6.20pm to see the place rocking already. Was it Sven Vath playing, finishing on an Underworld - Rez and Daft Punk - Rollin and Scratchin mix.. Went for the two Beltram no shows, the infamous Aphex Twin night, Dave Clarkes electro bits getting booed (ha ha), Garnier dropping a Beastie Boy's DnB track and getting told what for. Planetary Assault Systems and DJ Rush. I'm sure I was there for Surgeon's first night, if this was the one where he 'warmed up' for Andy Wetherall. The visuals - such a simple idea, so effective. The lights up for the penultimate song to see the mad man you had been dancing with all night. 'Please close your car doors quietly and don't play your music loud' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 11:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) orbit >No club since has ever matched the INTENSITY of The Orbit - the club opened at 8.00pm and many people would catch >the train there from Leeds at around 6 to queue (the After Dark is not actually in Leeds but in Morley - a small >town outside Leeds - strange that such a small palce could host such a legendary club - like having the Music >Institute in Flint). It closed early, at 2am, so the crowd would make sure they got their moneys worth. Are there >any other clubs that are heaving with whooping flailing nutters by 9pm? You know what? I was just about to say the same thing. I remember being pretty gobsmacked as a wide eyed kid the first time I went. I never went too often, but a few times. I remember going to see Mills there in '95, must have been May/June as we were handing out flyers afterwards for a party we were doing. Maybe the same one as you robert? I remember him dropping Kenny Larkins 'track' with was pretty new at the time. yep. an unreal place, mainly due to the crowd. It will be talked about in years to come, just because of the energy of the place. I don't think I've been anywhere in the UK with the same intensity, although when FK pla
RE: (313) half baked thought & question (was orbit)
All this reminiscing has me wondering about something - since I live in the US (bear with me as I try to get to the point of what I'm looking for) What books or essays are out there regarding club culture in the UK that work in issues of geographic size of the country and other aspects of social life in the UK? I think I'm looking for something more in depth than Generation Ecstasy/Energy Flash, etc. I've read The Clubcultures Reader (should revisit that). I'm wondering because, in the US, it's unlikely that you'd find a shared experience like the ones you're talking about at the Orbit because of the sheer expansiveness of the US. It would take me three days by car or several hundred dollars to go to NYC or two days to Detroit - whereas in the UK, everything is much closer and compact. That must have a huge influence on clubs and social life. For example, the next closest large city to me would be Chicago but it's an entire day's trip by car and expensive to stay there so I don't go often. Whereas, from my experience, Glasgow is a couple of hours from Edinburgh and fairly inexpensive or I would know people I could stay with in both cities. This has an affect on any kind of "collective" experience and I would expect the clubs and music benefit from it. Not to say it makes it better but just very different from club social life in the US. so- anything I can read that gets into these topics? MEK "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rica.co.uk> 313@hyperreal.org cc: 10/17/03 05:51 AM Subject: RE: (313) orbit I too first went to the Orbit in '95 for CJ Bolland about the time he released the Prophet. Went about 3 out of 4 weeks for the next four years whilst at uni. I think it was the 6th Birthday when I walked through the doors at 6.20pm to see the place rocking already. Was it Sven Vath playing, finishing on an Underworld - Rez and Daft Punk - Rollin and Scratchin mix. Went for the two Beltram no shows, the infamous Aphex Twin night, Dave Clarkes electro bits getting booed (ha ha), Garnier dropping a Beastie Boy's DnB track and getting told what for. Planetary Assault Systems and DJ Rush. I'm sure I was there for Surgeon's first night, if this was the one where he 'warmed up' for Andy Wetherall. The visuals - such a simple idea, so effective. The lights up for the penultimate song to see the mad man you had been dancing with all night. 'Please close your car doors quietly and don't play your music loud' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 11:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) orbit >No club since has ever matched the INTENSITY of The Orbit - the club opened at 8.00pm and many people would catch >the train there from Leeds at around 6 to queue (the After Dark is not actually in Leeds but in Morley - a small >town outside Leeds - strange that such a small palce could host such a legendary club - like having the Music >Institute in Flint). It closed early, at 2am, so the crowd would make sure they got their moneys worth. Are there >any other clubs that are heaving with whooping flailing nutters by 9pm? You know what? I was just about to say the same thing. I remember being pretty gobsmacked as a wide eyed kid the first time I went. I never went too often, but a few times. I remember going to see Mills there in '95, must have been May/June as we were handing out flyers afterwards for a party we were doing. Maybe the same one as you robert? I remember him dropping Kenny Larkins 'track' with was pretty new at the time. yep. an unreal place, mainly due to the crowd. It will be talked about in years to come, just because of the energy of the place. I don't think I've been anywhere in the UK with the same intensity, although when FK played at electric chair, that was similar. now, that intensity wouldn't have anything to do with the copious amounts of whizz knocking about in there would it? ha ha, I remember standing there smoking away, just having a beer rocking about, with a right load of loons offering me all kinds.. funny
Re: (313) submerge sound clips
http://www.submerge.com/2003/preview.html pssst don't tell anyone 17/10/03 2:39 PM ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > does anyone have the link to the new sounds clips for the new Undergrounds > Resistance records comming out. > > ryan > > _ > Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam > >
(313) Villalobos booking contact?
I'm trying to track down his current booking agent, and having zero luck. Revolver in Toronto was the last agent I had, but she's no longer in the biz. Can anyone help me out? Thanks! -Pete
Re: (313) orbit
it's been shut for over 2 months now with the last night being the british murder boys tour end of july with surgeon + regis live. the venue's been sold and is being converted to a restaurant apparently. a restaurant there? bloody hell. I was always surprised that there was a club like the Orbit in Morley, but it's still not as wierd as a restaurant being opened in that cavernous space. Maybe if I get nostalgic I'll go down for a terrine of foie gras and a fistfull of mistubishis. -s _ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
(313) submerge sound clips
does anyone have the link to the new sounds clips for the new Undergrounds Resistance records comming out. ryan _ Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam
Re: (313) New stuff...
And whatabout... Joey Negro "The way" remixes by Octave One and Majik Johnson!?! What is happening here... Dr. Nutcracker
RE: (313) USA-based online record shops.
I use these quite a bit : http://www.dancetracks.com/ http://www.forcedexposure.com/welcome.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) USA-based online record shops. hi folks. now that groovetech has disappeared, i find myself looking for other US-based online shops. i'm familiar with sonicgroove, planetx, and satellite... i'd like to know if other 'listers' have online shops that they consider exemplary in service and selection. don't get me wrong... i'm enamored with the vast selection of import shops like smallfish and rushhour, but the exchange rates and shipping fees can get outta hand sometimes. cheers, lrh
(313) USA-based online record shops.
hi folks. now that groovetech has disappeared, i find myself looking for other US-based online shops. i'm familiar with sonicgroove, planetx, and satellite... i'd like to know if other 'listers' have online shops that they consider exemplary in service and selection. don't get me wrong... i'm enamored with the vast selection of import shops like smallfish and rushhour, but the exchange rates and shipping fees can get outta hand sometimes. cheers, lrh
RE: (313) orbit
I too first went to the Orbit in '95 for CJ Bolland about the time he released the Prophet. Went about 3 out of 4 weeks for the next four years whilst at uni. I think it was the 6th Birthday when I walked through the doors at 6.20pm to see the place rocking already. Was it Sven Vath playing, finishing on an Underworld - Rez and Daft Punk - Rollin and Scratchin mix. Went for the two Beltram no shows, the infamous Aphex Twin night, Dave Clarkes electro bits getting booed (ha ha), Garnier dropping a Beastie Boy's DnB track and getting told what for. Planetary Assault Systems and DJ Rush. I'm sure I was there for Surgeon's first night, if this was the one where he 'warmed up' for Andy Wetherall. The visuals - such a simple idea, so effective. The lights up for the penultimate song to see the mad man you had been dancing with all night. 'Please close your car doors quietly and don't play your music loud' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 11:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) orbit >No club since has ever matched the INTENSITY of The Orbit - the club opened at 8.00pm and many people would catch >the train there from Leeds at around 6 to queue (the After Dark is not actually in Leeds but in Morley - a small >town outside Leeds - strange that such a small palce could host such a legendary club - like having the Music >Institute in Flint). It closed early, at 2am, so the crowd would make sure they got their moneys worth. Are there >any other clubs that are heaving with whooping flailing nutters by 9pm? You know what? I was just about to say the same thing. I remember being pretty gobsmacked as a wide eyed kid the first time I went. I never went too often, but a few times. I remember going to see Mills there in '95, must have been May/June as we were handing out flyers afterwards for a party we were doing. Maybe the same one as you robert? I remember him dropping Kenny Larkins 'track' with was pretty new at the time. yep. an unreal place, mainly due to the crowd. It will be talked about in years to come, just because of the energy of the place. I don't think I've been anywhere in the UK with the same intensity, although when FK played at electric chair, that was similar. now, that intensity wouldn't have anything to do with the copious amounts of whizz knocking about in there would it? ha ha, I remember standing there smoking away, just having a beer rocking about, with a right load of loons offering me all kinds.. funny cool place, will go down in history.. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in or attached to this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. It may contain information which is confidential and/or covered by legal professional or other privilege (or other rules or laws with similar effect in jurisdictions outside England and Wales). The views expressed in this email are not necessarily the views of Centrica plc, and the company, its directors, officers or employees make no representation or accept any liability for its accuracy or completeness unless expressly stated to the contrary.
Re: (313) orbit
first time: Sven Vath w/ Spicelab live - come on! RIP Orbit (sniff) Robert Taylor wrote: I was at many of the nights mentioned below and they were certainly very special. I remember the May gig well - he followed Underworld and managed to fit in about 30 records in his short slot ! I saw Mills for the first time there too - probably the night mentioned. No club since has ever matched the INTENSITY of The Orbit - the club opened at 8.00pm and many people would catch the train there from Leeds at around 6 to queue (the After Dark is not actually in Leeds but in Morley - a small town outside Leeds - strange that such a small palce could host such a legendary club - like having the Music Institute in Flint). It closed early, at 2am, so the crowd would make sure they got their moneys worth. Are there any other clubs that are heaving with whooping flailing nutters by 9pm? It will certainly be missed by many. -Original Message- From: innercity [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:12 AM To: Phonopsia; Dan Bean; McAllister, Nic Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) orbit it's a real shame cos i've had the best nights of my life in that place. plus 8 held their first party in the uk there, mills played only his 2nd gig ever in the uk at orbit then proceeded to rock the place many more times until he saw his arse in 98, ur held a party back in 92ish with alan oldham, sven vath's been pretty much a resident for 11+ years holding many of his birthday parties there along with some classic harthouse and omen nights. daft punk played long before anyone knew who they were as did underworld, autechre, lfo, speedy j and too many more. claude young played his first ever (and only?) live set at orbit one new year after turning up the previous new year (not booked) with a bag of records begging to play! derrick may once got a taxi from london to drive the 200+ miles just so he could play for the final 20 minutes. the list is pretty much endless and i could waffle for hours but i've got work to do. t # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) orbit
>No club since has ever matched the INTENSITY of The Orbit - the club opened at 8.00pm and many people would catch >the train there from Leeds at around 6 to queue (the After Dark is not actually in Leeds but in Morley - a small >town outside Leeds - strange that such a small palce could host such a legendary club - like having the Music >Institute in Flint). It closed early, at 2am, so the crowd would make sure they got their moneys worth. Are there >any other clubs that are heaving with whooping flailing nutters by 9pm? You know what? I was just about to say the same thing. I remember being pretty gobsmacked as a wide eyed kid the first time I went. I never went too often, but a few times. I remember going to see Mills there in '95, must have been May/June as we were handing out flyers afterwards for a party we were doing. Maybe the same one as you robert? I remember him dropping Kenny Larkins 'track' with was pretty new at the time. yep. an unreal place, mainly due to the crowd. It will be talked about in years to come, just because of the energy of the place. I don't think I've been anywhere in the UK with the same intensity, although when FK played at electric chair, that was similar. now, that intensity wouldn't have anything to do with the copious amounts of whizz knocking about in there would it? ha ha, I remember standing there smoking away, just having a beer rocking about, with a right load of loons offering me all kinds.. funny cool place, will go down in history.. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) orbit
I was at many of the nights mentioned below and they were certainly very special. I remember the May gig well - he followed Underworld and managed to fit in about 30 records in his short slot ! I saw Mills for the first time there too - probably the night mentioned. No club since has ever matched the INTENSITY of The Orbit - the club opened at 8.00pm and many people would catch the train there from Leeds at around 6 to queue (the After Dark is not actually in Leeds but in Morley - a small town outside Leeds - strange that such a small palce could host such a legendary club - like having the Music Institute in Flint). It closed early, at 2am, so the crowd would make sure they got their moneys worth. Are there any other clubs that are heaving with whooping flailing nutters by 9pm? It will certainly be missed by many. -Original Message- From: innercity [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:12 AM To: Phonopsia; Dan Bean; McAllister, Nic Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) orbit it's a real shame cos i've had the best nights of my life in that place. plus 8 held their first party in the uk there, mills played only his 2nd gig ever in the uk at orbit then proceeded to rock the place many more times until he saw his arse in 98, ur held a party back in 92ish with alan oldham, sven vath's been pretty much a resident for 11+ years holding many of his birthday parties there along with some classic harthouse and omen nights. daft punk played long before anyone knew who they were as did underworld, autechre, lfo, speedy j and too many more. claude young played his first ever (and only?) live set at orbit one new year after turning up the previous new year (not booked) with a bag of records begging to play! derrick may once got a taxi from london to drive the 200+ miles just so he could play for the final 20 minutes. the list is pretty much endless and i could waffle for hours but i've got work to do. t # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) orbit
My last memory of it was one guy and four bouncers offering to kick my head in for flyering outside (down the street and across the road) for a free party - which was nice of them... 17/10/03 10:12 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] > it's been shut for over 2 months now with the last night being the british > murder boys tour end of july with surgeon + regis live. the venue's been > sold and is being converted to a restaurant apparently. the player / red > seal studio has already kicked out by the new owners so it seems work's > already begun on the place. hopefully this'll mean we won't get a new player > record for a long while. (only kidding chaps!!) > > it's looking doubtful they'll carry on or if they are to do they're keeping > it very very low profile. > > it's a real shame cos i've had the best nights of my life in that place. > plus 8 held their first party in the uk there, mills played only his 2nd gig > ever in the uk at orbit then proceeded to rock the place many more times > until he saw his arse in 98, ur held a party back in 92ish with alan oldham, > sven vath's been pretty much a resident for 11+ years holding many of his > birthday parties there along with some classic harthouse and omen nights. > daft punk played long before anyone knew who they were as did underworld, > autechre, lfo, speedy j and too many more. claude young played his first > ever (and only?) live set at orbit one new year after turning up the > previous new year (not booked) with a bag of records begging to play! > derrick may once got a taxi from london to drive the 200+ miles just so he > could play for the final 20 minutes. the list is pretty much endless and i > could waffle for hours but i've got work to do. > > things change though and there's several nights already doing the business > in leeds. superconductor for one. check out their listings at > www.superconductormusic.co.uk john acquaviva plays next week. we're also to > start up again in the new year keeping it dark and minimal and will bring > leeds the finest the uk has to offer with regular uk label nights and > irregular special international guests. (we're hoping to host a very > special 313 party with the superconductor boys very soon, can't confirm any > details yet but watch this space) > > keep checking www.innercity.co.uk for leeds updates. > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "McAllister, Nic" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Nigel Walker > > >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:45 PM >> Subject: Re: (313) Nigel Walker >> >> >>> No! Surely not! >>> >>> Can anyone confirm/refute this? >> >> >> Yeah m8. This is old news actually. I think there's talk of possibly one >> more party after they close (or have they already???) but supposedly after >> that it's done for good. Or at least this is what I've read on the UK >> boards. >> >> Tristan >> === >> http://www.phonopsia.co.uk >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >
RE: (313) orbit
> claude young played his first ever (and only?) live set at orbit one new year nope, he also played live in Belfast (around '97 if fuzzy memory serves correctly). I don't know of any others though... Sean.
Re: (313) orbit
it's been shut for over 2 months now with the last night being the british murder boys tour end of july with surgeon + regis live. the venue's been sold and is being converted to a restaurant apparently. the player / red seal studio has already kicked out by the new owners so it seems work's already begun on the place. hopefully this'll mean we won't get a new player record for a long while. (only kidding chaps!!) it's looking doubtful they'll carry on or if they are to do they're keeping it very very low profile. it's a real shame cos i've had the best nights of my life in that place. plus 8 held their first party in the uk there, mills played only his 2nd gig ever in the uk at orbit then proceeded to rock the place many more times until he saw his arse in 98, ur held a party back in 92ish with alan oldham, sven vath's been pretty much a resident for 11+ years holding many of his birthday parties there along with some classic harthouse and omen nights. daft punk played long before anyone knew who they were as did underworld, autechre, lfo, speedy j and too many more. claude young played his first ever (and only?) live set at orbit one new year after turning up the previous new year (not booked) with a bag of records begging to play! derrick may once got a taxi from london to drive the 200+ miles just so he could play for the final 20 minutes. the list is pretty much endless and i could waffle for hours but i've got work to do. things change though and there's several nights already doing the business in leeds. superconductor for one. check out their listings at www.superconductormusic.co.uk john acquaviva plays next week. we're also to start up again in the new year keeping it dark and minimal and will bring leeds the finest the uk has to offer with regular uk label nights and irregular special international guests. (we're hoping to host a very special 313 party with the superconductor boys very soon, can't confirm any details yet but watch this space) keep checking www.innercity.co.uk for leeds updates. - Original Message - From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: Re: (313) Nigel Walker > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "McAllister, Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Nigel Walker > > > > No! Surely not! > > > > Can anyone confirm/refute this? > > > Yeah m8. This is old news actually. I think there's talk of possibly one > more party after they close (or have they already???) but supposedly after > that it's done for good. Or at least this is what I've read on the UK > boards. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
I really love "Feel My Mother F*g Bass in Your Face" on Dance Mania, come to think of it I like alot of his booty trax on Dance Mania. Jeff -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 7:51 AM To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized I wouldn't mind somebody saying what are his most interesting / best releases etc, BTW... Gwendal > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:19 AM > To: Marsel van der Wielen; 313 > Subject: RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson > hospitalized > > > As many of you know, Paul Johnson is a paraplegic (I hope > that's the correct > term) and has used a wheelchair for many years. Hope he gets > better before > too long. > > k > > >-Original Message- > >From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 PM > >To: 313 > >Subject: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > >Importance: High > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Dust Traxx Official Press Release" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > > > > > >> > >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > >> 3851 West Eddy Street > >> Chicago, Illinois 60618 USA > >> Voice: 773/539-8568 > >> Fax: 773/539-8569 > >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> *** OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE *** -- Paul Johnson hospitalized > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, 09 October 2003, legendary House music > producer and deejay > >PAUL JOHNSON was hospitalized in Chicago suffering from > massive pain in his > >lower extremities. PAUL JOHNSON remains hospitalized and will > >undergo major > >surgery today, 16 October 2003, to amputate his right leg. > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON has asked us to notify the public of his > condition, and he > >requests your prayers and thoughts during this time of > struggle in his > >personal life. PAUL JOHNSON wishes to assure everyone that > with your love, > >prayers, and support that once recuperated he plans to take us all > >on a wild > >ride as only he can. Until further notice, all scheduled > appearances and > >tours are cancelled. > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON and his family have asked the media and fans > to respect his > >privacy in this stressful time. All media inquiries should > be directed to > >Dust Traxx at PAUL JOHNSON's request. Anyone wishing to > send him their > >greetings may do so by writing to him in care of Dust Traxx > at the address > >listed above. > >> > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON is a Chicago hometown hero known world wide > for setting and > >resetting the direction of House Music time and time again. > With such hits > >as "Do Do Wap", "Playing With a Rubber Band", "Just > Whistle", "Burnin' for > >Your Yearnin'", and of course, "Get, Get Down". PAUL JOHNSON has > >become part > >of our hearts, our minds, and our souls. His current new > release "Do Do > >Wap" has been hitting and holding on to #1 in the pop and > dance charts all > >over Europe. > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON has released over forty 12" releases on Dust Traxx, > >Undaground Therapy, Cajual/Relief, Dance Mania, Riveria, Full House, > >Confidential, IHR, Peacefrog, and Djax as well as six > full-length albums on > >Nite Life Collective, Relief, Moody, Peacefrog, and ACV. > His remixes for > >Craig Alexander, Gant Garrard, Studio Nova, Stacy Kidd, Joey > Beltram, Green > >Velvet, Armando, CC Penniston, CZR, Ron Trent, K-Alexi, and Steve > >Poindexter > >have all made their way into all the big jocks boxes. > Recording under the > >aliases "Traxxmen" with Robert Armani, "Brother 2 Brother" with Gant > >Garrard, and "Yonkapin" this man of House has produced some > of the hottest > >deep Disco House tracks and Techno bangers. > >> > >> > >> Chuck Paugh > >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > > > > >
AW: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
I bet my music would sound quite different without the big pile of records i've got from him. Especially his releases on Dancemania and Relief were/are a very good source for inspiration. All the best wishes to you, Paul! Ronny > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Oktober 2003 10:07 > An: Cobert, Gwendal; 313 > Betreff: RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson > hospitalized > > > Don't know many, but here's my all time favourite - > > With Armando - Welcome II The Warehouse - Radikal Fear > > Raw, but absolutely sublime at the same time. How do they do that? > > Dan. > > At 02:50 am -0500 17/10/03, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: > >I wouldn't mind somebody saying what are his most interesting / best > >releases etc, BTW... > >Gwendal > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:19 AM > >> To: Marsel van der Wielen; 313 > >> Subject: RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson > >> hospitalized > >> > >> > >> As many of you know, Paul Johnson is a paraplegic (I hope that's > >> the correct > >> term) and has used a wheelchair for many years. Hope he > gets better > >> before too long. > >> > >> k > >> > >> >-Original Message- > >> >From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 PM > >> >To: 313 > >> >Subject: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson > >> hospitalized > >> >Importance: High > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >- Original Message - > >> >From: "Dust Traxx Official Press Release" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:30 PM > >> >Subject: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > >> >> 3851 West Eddy Street > >> >> Chicago, Illinois 60618 USA > >> >> Voice: 773/539-8568 > >> >> Fax: 773/539-8569 > >> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> *** OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE *** -- Paul Johnson hospitalized > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thursday, 09 October 2003, legendary House music > >> producer and deejay > >> >PAUL JOHNSON was hospitalized in Chicago suffering from > >> massive pain in his > >> >lower extremities. PAUL JOHNSON remains hospitalized and will > >> >undergo major > >> >surgery today, 16 October 2003, to amputate his right leg. > >> >> > >> >> PAUL JOHNSON has asked us to notify the public of his > >> condition, and he > >> >requests your prayers and thoughts during this time of > >> struggle in his > >> >personal life. PAUL JOHNSON wishes to assure everyone that > >> with your love, > >> >prayers, and support that once recuperated he plans to > take us all > >> >on a wild > >> >ride as only he can. Until further notice, all scheduled > >> appearances and > >> >tours are cancelled. > >> >> > >> >> PAUL JOHNSON and his family have asked the media and fans > >> to respect his > >> >privacy in this stressful time. All media inquiries should > >> be directed to > >> >Dust Traxx at PAUL JOHNSON's request. Anyone wishing to > >> send him their > >> >greetings may do so by writing to him in care of Dust Traxx > >> at the address > >> >listed above. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> PAUL JOHNSON is a Chicago hometown hero known world wide > >> for setting and > >> >resetting the direction of House Music time and time again. > >> With such hits > >> >as "Do Do Wap", "Playing With a Rubber Band", "Just > >> Whistle", "Burnin' for > >> >Your Yearnin'", and of course, "Get, Get Down". PAUL JOHNSON has > >> >become part > >> >of our hearts, our minds, and our souls. His current new > >> release "Do Do > >> >Wap" has been hitting and holding on to #1 in the pop and > >> dance charts all > >> >over Europe. > >> >> > >> >> PAUL JOHNSON has released over forty 12" releases on > Dust Traxx, > >> >Undaground Therapy, Cajual/Relief, Dance Mania, Riveria, > Full House, > >> >Confidential, IHR, Peacefrog, and Djax as well as six > >> full-length albums on > >> >Nite Life Collective, Relief, Moody, Peacefrog, and ACV. > >> His remixes for > >> >Craig Alexander, Gant Garrard, Studio Nova, Stacy Kidd, Joey > >> Beltram, Green > >> >Velvet, Armando, CC Penniston, CZR, Ron Trent, K-Alexi, and Steve > >> >Poindexter > >> >have all made their way into all the big jocks boxes. > >> Recording under the > >> >aliases "Traxxmen" with Robert Armani, "Brother 2 > Brother" with Gant > >> >Garrard, and "Yonkapin" this man of House has produced some > >> of the hottest > >> >deep Disco House tracks and Techno bangers. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Chuck Paugh > >> >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > >> > > >> > > >> >
RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
Don't know many, but here's my all time favourite - With Armando - Welcome II The Warehouse - Radikal Fear Raw, but absolutely sublime at the same time. How do they do that? Dan. At 02:50 am -0500 17/10/03, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: I wouldn't mind somebody saying what are his most interesting / best releases etc, BTW... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:19 AM To: Marsel van der Wielen; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized As many of you know, Paul Johnson is a paraplegic (I hope that's the correct term) and has used a wheelchair for many years. Hope he gets better before too long. k >-Original Message- >From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 PM >To: 313 >Subject: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized >Importance: High > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Dust Traxx Official Press Release" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:30 PM >Subject: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > > >> >> Dust Traxx, Inc. >> 3851 West Eddy Street >> Chicago, Illinois 60618 USA >> Voice: 773/539-8568 >> Fax: 773/539-8569 >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> *** OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE *** -- Paul Johnson hospitalized >> >> >> On Thursday, 09 October 2003, legendary House music producer and deejay >PAUL JOHNSON was hospitalized in Chicago suffering from massive pain in his >lower extremities. PAUL JOHNSON remains hospitalized and will >undergo major >surgery today, 16 October 2003, to amputate his right leg. >> >> PAUL JOHNSON has asked us to notify the public of his condition, and he >requests your prayers and thoughts during this time of struggle in his >personal life. PAUL JOHNSON wishes to assure everyone that with your love, >prayers, and support that once recuperated he plans to take us all >on a wild >ride as only he can. Until further notice, all scheduled appearances and >tours are cancelled. >> >> PAUL JOHNSON and his family have asked the media and fans to respect his >privacy in this stressful time. All media inquiries should be directed to >Dust Traxx at PAUL JOHNSON's request. Anyone wishing to send him their >greetings may do so by writing to him in care of Dust Traxx at the address >listed above. >> >> >> PAUL JOHNSON is a Chicago hometown hero known world wide for setting and >resetting the direction of House Music time and time again. With such hits >as "Do Do Wap", "Playing With a Rubber Band", "Just Whistle", "Burnin' for >Your Yearnin'", and of course, "Get, Get Down". PAUL JOHNSON has >become part >of our hearts, our minds, and our souls. His current new release "Do Do >Wap" has been hitting and holding on to #1 in the pop and dance charts all >over Europe. >> >> PAUL JOHNSON has released over forty 12" releases on Dust Traxx, >Undaground Therapy, Cajual/Relief, Dance Mania, Riveria, Full House, >Confidential, IHR, Peacefrog, and Djax as well as six full-length albums on >Nite Life Collective, Relief, Moody, Peacefrog, and ACV. His remixes for >Craig Alexander, Gant Garrard, Studio Nova, Stacy Kidd, Joey Beltram, Green >Velvet, Armando, CC Penniston, CZR, Ron Trent, K-Alexi, and Steve >Poindexter >have all made their way into all the big jocks boxes. Recording under the >aliases "Traxxmen" with Robert Armani, "Brother 2 Brother" with Gant >Garrard, and "Yonkapin" this man of House has produced some of the hottest >deep Disco House tracks and Techno bangers. >> >> >> Chuck Paugh >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > >
RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
I wouldn't mind somebody saying what are his most interesting / best releases etc, BTW... Gwendal > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:19 AM > To: Marsel van der Wielen; 313 > Subject: RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson > hospitalized > > > As many of you know, Paul Johnson is a paraplegic (I hope > that's the correct > term) and has used a wheelchair for many years. Hope he gets > better before > too long. > > k > > >-Original Message- > >From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 PM > >To: 313 > >Subject: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > >Importance: High > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Dust Traxx Official Press Release" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > > > > > >> > >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > >> 3851 West Eddy Street > >> Chicago, Illinois 60618 USA > >> Voice: 773/539-8568 > >> Fax: 773/539-8569 > >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> *** OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE *** -- Paul Johnson hospitalized > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, 09 October 2003, legendary House music > producer and deejay > >PAUL JOHNSON was hospitalized in Chicago suffering from > massive pain in his > >lower extremities. PAUL JOHNSON remains hospitalized and will > >undergo major > >surgery today, 16 October 2003, to amputate his right leg. > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON has asked us to notify the public of his > condition, and he > >requests your prayers and thoughts during this time of > struggle in his > >personal life. PAUL JOHNSON wishes to assure everyone that > with your love, > >prayers, and support that once recuperated he plans to take us all > >on a wild > >ride as only he can. Until further notice, all scheduled > appearances and > >tours are cancelled. > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON and his family have asked the media and fans > to respect his > >privacy in this stressful time. All media inquiries should > be directed to > >Dust Traxx at PAUL JOHNSON's request. Anyone wishing to > send him their > >greetings may do so by writing to him in care of Dust Traxx > at the address > >listed above. > >> > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON is a Chicago hometown hero known world wide > for setting and > >resetting the direction of House Music time and time again. > With such hits > >as "Do Do Wap", "Playing With a Rubber Band", "Just > Whistle", "Burnin' for > >Your Yearnin'", and of course, "Get, Get Down". PAUL JOHNSON has > >become part > >of our hearts, our minds, and our souls. His current new > release "Do Do > >Wap" has been hitting and holding on to #1 in the pop and > dance charts all > >over Europe. > >> > >> PAUL JOHNSON has released over forty 12" releases on Dust Traxx, > >Undaground Therapy, Cajual/Relief, Dance Mania, Riveria, Full House, > >Confidential, IHR, Peacefrog, and Djax as well as six > full-length albums on > >Nite Life Collective, Relief, Moody, Peacefrog, and ACV. > His remixes for > >Craig Alexander, Gant Garrard, Studio Nova, Stacy Kidd, Joey > Beltram, Green > >Velvet, Armando, CC Penniston, CZR, Ron Trent, K-Alexi, and Steve > >Poindexter > >have all made their way into all the big jocks boxes. > Recording under the > >aliases "Traxxmen" with Robert Armani, "Brother 2 Brother" with Gant > >Garrard, and "Yonkapin" this man of House has produced some > of the hottest > >deep Disco House tracks and Techno bangers. > >> > >> > >> Chuck Paugh > >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > > > > >
(313) Eyes Down Manchester
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RE: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized
As many of you know, Paul Johnson is a paraplegic (I hope that's the correct term) and has used a wheelchair for many years. Hope he gets better before too long. k >-Original Message- >From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:08 PM >To: 313 >Subject: (313) Fw: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized >Importance: High > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Dust Traxx Official Press Release" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:30 PM >Subject: OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE - Paul Johnson hospitalized > > >> >> Dust Traxx, Inc. >> 3851 West Eddy Street >> Chicago, Illinois 60618 USA >> Voice: 773/539-8568 >> Fax: 773/539-8569 >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> *** OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE *** -- Paul Johnson hospitalized >> >> >> On Thursday, 09 October 2003, legendary House music producer and deejay >PAUL JOHNSON was hospitalized in Chicago suffering from massive pain in his >lower extremities. PAUL JOHNSON remains hospitalized and will >undergo major >surgery today, 16 October 2003, to amputate his right leg. >> >> PAUL JOHNSON has asked us to notify the public of his condition, and he >requests your prayers and thoughts during this time of struggle in his >personal life. PAUL JOHNSON wishes to assure everyone that with your love, >prayers, and support that once recuperated he plans to take us all >on a wild >ride as only he can. Until further notice, all scheduled appearances and >tours are cancelled. >> >> PAUL JOHNSON and his family have asked the media and fans to respect his >privacy in this stressful time. All media inquiries should be directed to >Dust Traxx at PAUL JOHNSON's request. Anyone wishing to send him their >greetings may do so by writing to him in care of Dust Traxx at the address >listed above. >> >> >> PAUL JOHNSON is a Chicago hometown hero known world wide for setting and >resetting the direction of House Music time and time again. With such hits >as "Do Do Wap", "Playing With a Rubber Band", "Just Whistle", "Burnin' for >Your Yearnin'", and of course, "Get, Get Down". PAUL JOHNSON has >become part >of our hearts, our minds, and our souls. His current new release "Do Do >Wap" has been hitting and holding on to #1 in the pop and dance charts all >over Europe. >> >> PAUL JOHNSON has released over forty 12" releases on Dust Traxx, >Undaground Therapy, Cajual/Relief, Dance Mania, Riveria, Full House, >Confidential, IHR, Peacefrog, and Djax as well as six full-length albums on >Nite Life Collective, Relief, Moody, Peacefrog, and ACV. His remixes for >Craig Alexander, Gant Garrard, Studio Nova, Stacy Kidd, Joey Beltram, Green >Velvet, Armando, CC Penniston, CZR, Ron Trent, K-Alexi, and Steve >Poindexter >have all made their way into all the big jocks boxes. Recording under the >aliases "Traxxmen" with Robert Armani, "Brother 2 Brother" with Gant >Garrard, and "Yonkapin" this man of House has produced some of the hottest >deep Disco House tracks and Techno bangers. >> >> >> Chuck Paugh >> Dust Traxx, Inc. > >
(313) Big Club Deaths - was Re: (313) Nigel Walker
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) Nigel Walker > That's terrible, Robert Taylor and I were talking at the 313 meet > about what a mad unique place that was. I heard that these days > they're focussed on the loopy techno stuff, but so what, that place > was mental. Speaking as an outsider, I think the bigger clubs are suffering from their own weight these days, which in my mind is a good thing since msot underground DJs will never step up in a big space. With the wealth of tunes and DJs around now, it's no wonder larger clubs book who they do, and who can really blame them? They are there to support a larger audience, give people what they want, etc. Unfortunately, very few of those larger clubs have found a way (or maybe just the balls + insight) to sustain themselves while appeasing an audience that come for what they know, and are sick of it at once (as illustrated by The Orbit). To this end, I think it is amazing the kind of lineups Fabric pulls in while constantly filling to way beyond capacity. They push boundaries much further than The End (which also fills regularly) on a weekly basis. Unfortunately, the place has a somewhat deserved reputation for pulling in a load of wankers, and even more unfortunately, the DJs who spin there rarely extend themselves in that venue. Rob Hood played a great set on my birthday, but it wasn't his most adventurous outing. Francois K and Jeff Mills each played good sets late last year but nowhere near their best. Very few performers really have enough faith in that audience to say 'f*ck it'. I can think of three nights in the last year when I got that treat, and on each occasion the crowd responded more than usual. One was Fabrice Lig opening up (for nearly four hours I think), earlier this year. Another was Octave One live (Stacey Pullen followed with wank) while the Jedi Knights held it down all night in the 3rd room for six hours. The third was Technasia live (following Dave Angel, who sucked). Basically, as much as I would like to place the blame on hugeness, I think most of them have dug their own graves through complacent bookings rather than some inherent flaw in being large (as Fabric illustrates), and what dissapoints me most is that when artists who play both medium and large venues get a chance at bigger spaces with a good agenda, they rarely capitalize on the opportunity. Fabric could be such an amazing nexus, but most DJs aren't willing to take a chance there. I think with few exceptions the performers are equally to blame. Just look at Fabric's lineup for the next month and tell me it shouldn't kill: http://www.fabriclondon.com I'd be surprised if most of those DJs live up to their potential though. Francois K may be the prime example of this. He's deveoping quite a reputation for playing brilliant eclectic sets where he has faith in the crowd, and really flacid effects-laden techno when he doesn't. As a result, it further separates the small and large audiences. This 'knowing your audience' thing has gone way too far... When a DJ who has 25 years under his belt can stun his crowd one weekend and deaden them the next, the formula has failed. This is why I'm seeing him on a boat tomorrow, and couldn't care less about his performance at Fabric next weekend, even though for once, Fabric is cheaper and it has the added bonus of Aukufen. So I was saying I thought this was a good thing. Maybe I don't really, but given that I don't believe things will change, I'd rather just get to see who I want where I know they will actually play good music. And while I really hope Fabric's amazing lineups continue, I think the DJs need to do a lot to bring the heads back into those spaces. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]