RE: Fw: Re: (313) movement 04

[fabrice Lig]

Just wanted to agree too...
I think that by ourdays, festivals are more "Cultural" events, than some 
private companies sources of profit...
I can tell you that 80% of the live acts I've made in last 3 years in 
festivals (even if its 90% in Europe, where its the same situation anyway) 
were possible because of some sponsors or Governement cultural budgets...

Specially for free festivals...
Even if I think that lots of governement budgets are too low...or (its the 
case in Belgium) just dedicated to "Classical music", nothing for 
electronic, rock music etc...
So, its also the moment to talk about sponsoring for underground 
music...(because I know that if we are talking about Movement, we will have 
to talk about sponsorship..)
If we need to wear a "Ford" t-shirt (ok its maybe too much ;-)..., to have a 
chance to make the people ear/discover our music ...why not...
Sponsoring exist for many centuries...it made possible some of the nicest 
italian sculptures and peinting during renaissance hey !...of course Ford 
didn't exist by these days, but was the same kind of business...;-)


Fabrice Lig







From: Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Fw: Re: (313) movement 04
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:58:40 -0800

I couldn't disagree more.  Many businesses aren't profitable in
their first year or two.  Even moreso for turnarounds, which
Movement is.  DEMF had the advantage of launching during
a huge economic upswing, which ended shortly thereafter.
Movement is operating in a context of a bad economy (Michigan
is second only to my own Oregon in unemployment) and
contracting ad budgets.  The music industry itself, as we know,
is an utter shambles.

Those who think they know how to run Movement better might
want to call up and volunteer.  Maybe if your ideas are that good
they'll bring you on as staff.  Better yet, invest a few hundred
thousand dollars and have a deciding voice in how the show runs.
That is in fact how many major festivals of all kinds operate.

fred

-- mail forwarded, original message follows --

To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: (313) movement 04
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:54:38 -0600

[Oliver Ruehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> movement 2004
>
> http://www.freep.com/news/locway/move14_20040214.htm

Man...  Give it back to Carl Craig.  How you can take over something
like Movement and not turn a profit is beyond ridiculous to me.

--
:: atomly ::

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ...
[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ...
[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...




_
Grand concours Saint Valentin! http://www.fr.msn.be/saintvalentin/concours/

Fw: Re: (313) movement 04

[Fred Heutte]

I couldn't disagree more.  Many businesses aren't profitable in
their first year or two.  Even moreso for turnarounds, which
Movement is.  DEMF had the advantage of launching during
a huge economic upswing, which ended shortly thereafter.
Movement is operating in a context of a bad economy (Michigan
is second only to my own Oregon in unemployment) and
contracting ad budgets.  The music industry itself, as we know,
is an utter shambles.

Those who think they know how to run Movement better might
want to call up and volunteer.  Maybe if your ideas are that good
they'll bring you on as staff.  Better yet, invest a few hundred
thousand dollars and have a deciding voice in how the show runs.
That is in fact how many major festivals of all kinds operate.

fred

-- mail forwarded, original message follows --

To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: (313) movement 04
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:54:38 -0600

[Oliver Ruehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> movement 2004
>
> http://www.freep.com/news/locway/move14_20040214.htm

Man...  Give it back to Carl Craig.  How you can take over something
like Movement and not turn a profit is beyond ridiculous to me.

--
:: atomly ::

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ...
[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ...
[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...

Re: (313) movement 04

[Cyclone Wehner]

I really think to say that is to totally ignore the economic situation.
Very few people in the music industry are cutting a profit right now,
period, especially where underground music is concerned.
If anyone can find an industry person who disagrees, I'd love to meet 'em!


--
>From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) movement 04
>Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 4:54 AM
>

> [Oliver Ruehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>> movement 2004
>>
>> http://www.freep.com/news/locway/move14_20040214.htm
>
> Man...  Give it back to Carl Craig.  How you can take over something
> like Movement and not turn a profit is beyond ridiculous to me.
>
> --
> :: atomly ::
>
> [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ...
> [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ...
> [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...

Re: (313) movement 04

[Kent williams]

I don't know Adam. What's the business model? Let me see: Hire multiple
giant sound systems for three days, install them on gigantic custom built
stages, pay people at the top of their profession to perform, and your only
revenue stream is charging people who set up vendor tents and sell funnel
cakes. Maybe sell some souvenir shwag yourself as icing on the cake.

I'm at a net loss after promoting 20 or 30 shows, and I get to actually charge
admission!

The red ink last year came from not attracting any big sponsors.  This year,
maybe they'll be able to cut a deal.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, atomly wrote:
> [Oliver Ruehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > movement 2004
> >
> > http://www.freep.com/news/locway/move14_20040214.htm
>
> Man...  Give it back to Carl Craig.  How you can take over something
> like Movement and not turn a profit is beyond ridiculous to me.
>

(313) Online record store is down:

[jason kenjar]

Hello list,

Just wanted to report that www.planetxusa.com seems to be down at the moment.

 For those of you not famiiar with the store, they offer tons of samples from 
both newer and older records. Its kind of become my 'go to' site for hearing 
samples. It is also a USA based store, so it is easier on my wallet.

What are other peoples ' go to' sites that have samples of older records?

thanks everyone, have a good weekend.
-jason_ic

PS> FINALLY. NEW DJ BONE! that made my day right there :) thanks again ed.
__
Vorras Messaging Software - http://www.vorras.com/

Re: (313) movement 04

[atomly]

[Oliver Ruehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> movement 2004
> 
> http://www.freep.com/news/locway/move14_20040214.htm 

Man...  Give it back to Carl Craig.  How you can take over something
like Movement and not turn a profit is beyond ridiculous to me.

-- 
:: atomly ::

[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ...
[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ...
[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...

Re: (313) Moods & Grooves 5th year anniversary

[Southern Outpost]

Hey George,
I believe he's in Japan for a month then one or two other Asian 
cities (possible Singapore date), but unfortunately no Australian 
dates this time around.


Peace,
Patrick.

At 11:24 PM +1100 14/2/04, George Emsies wrote:

--
Moods & Grooves 5th year anniversary Promotion Tour 2004
featuring Mike Grant
--

Hi All,

Does anyone know of the full details of Mike Grant's tour?

I know that he is starting in Japan, but does anyone know were his next
stop is?

Cheers,

georgee



--
--
Southern Outpost - Sydney.
Distribution: Twilight 76, Detroit
http://www.southernoutpost.com
Infiltrating your sound systems.
--

(313) Moods & Grooves 5th year anniversary

[George Emsies]

--
Moods & Grooves 5th year anniversary Promotion Tour 2004
featuring Mike Grant
--

Hi All,

Does anyone know of the full details of Mike Grant's tour?

I know that he is starting in Japan, but does anyone know were his next
stop is?

Cheers,

georgee

RE: (313) Rephlex reissue

[Robert Taylor]

It's Black Devil Disco Club - I think Luke Vibert discovered it at a car boot 
sale.
Matt McQueen played it on his show last weeg - s'good - 
http://www.rephlex.com/2001releases/cat146/cat146.html

-Original Message-
From: materecordings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:51 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Rephlex reissue


Anyone have any info on a recent reissue elctronic disco number on
rephlex, I am positive I read this somewhere (possibly Boomkat), but
cannot remember where???
Thanks in advance

#
Note:

Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily 
represent 
those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This 
email 
and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of 
the 
individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this 
email in 
error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank You.
#

(313) Rephlex reissue

[materecordings]

Anyone have any info on a recent reissue elctronic disco number on
rephlex, I am positive I read this somewhere (possibly Boomkat), but
cannot remember where???
Thanks in advance

(313) new dj bone's coming up!

[Ed]

*dj bone - r.i.d.e (sub002)*

Central theme of this ep is "evil", its also a tribute to drexciya

R.I.D.E. (Rest in Drexciyan Eternity)
Metallo,
Wind slaves (fog)
Wind Slaves (mist)

*dj bone - ship life (sub003)*

he got his inspiration for this ep out of old slave diaries, its about 
the slave's who chosed for freedom, by drowning their self on their way 
to america or europe


Waterslaves,
Mutiny,
The Hold (tight packing)
The Hold (loose packing)

*dj bone - physics (sub004)*

his hate against nasa is central here, why should we spend milliards of 
money on space things, while the real problems are on our own small world..


Cause of Action,
Effects of Change,
Alien Speak,
Aliens Speak (rhea)
Aliens Speak (titan)

for a short mix of some of his newest tracks, check:

http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/audio.jsp?maps=14605939&audionumber=16457573

Subject Detroit preview-mix
1. Aliens Speak (rhea)
2. Alien Speak
3. R.I.D.E (Rest in Drexciyan Eternity)
4. The Hold (loose packing)
5. Wind Slaves (mist)

the releases are planned for march

(313) movement 04

[Oliver Ruehl]

movement 2004

http://www.freep.com/news/locway/move14_20040214.htm 

Re: (313) robots

[alex . bond]

>The rest are less difficult to come by if you're much of an italo crate
>digger, or have been moderately following the re-issues and other
>comps/boots over the past year or two.

Was just thinking, Italo stuff in the UK is really hard to find. does
anyone else in the UK find this? I go record digging alot, and you just
don't see it. Infact, old european import stuff in general is pretty hard
to come by. This reduces us to specialist dealers/ebay/internet which is a
bit of a shame as the prices are usually fairly high, and, more importantly
it means you can't listen to stuff before you buy, reducing the chances of
finding something 'new' or a bit different. Theres nothing better than
being sat with a pile of records that are all 50p that you have no idea
about what they are, on some old fella's battered record player and finding
a bomb or two.. it also makes comps like this a real steal for us UK peeps.
still, of course you guys overseas have the opposite I guess. we should
start a co-op record pool

I presume there was never a big italo scene here, therefore the records
just never got imported in large numbers in the first place. Even funnier
is the fact that when you see it, its usually U.S licensed copies of the
bigger 'crossover' tracks like say, Klein & MBO who are on Greg Wilsons old
playlists. it's almost as if it had to go all the way to america before it
got here. I'm sure I'm missing something though, not sure that that is the
case at all and I'd love to find out more about it. btw, Greg Wilson's site
is a great read if you're interested in the early 80's uk club scene here
in the north west http://www.electrofunkroots.co.uk/biog_menu.htm .

anyway, I'm just rambling on. records, records, records, I'm obsessed.

alex



_

- End of message text 

This e-mail is sent by the above named in their
individual, non-business capacity and is not on
behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers.

PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming
e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and
telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you
give your consent to such monitoring

Re: (313) record

[alex . bond]

>> V/A - Motorcity Dayz Vol 1
>> Psycho Thrill
>> St Andy - Motor
>> Jeff Mills - Mosainga (Re-edit)
>> Tronic Pulse - Hit That
>> Drivetrain - Free (Free-Spirit Mix)

had a quick flick through this in the record shop on my way to the pub.
I only flicked through, but I saved one to buy when I get some cash.
On first listen, I think I like this track >> Tronic Pulse - Hit That
I dont have anything by these people, anyone recommend anything else by
them to check??

ta!
_

- End of message text 

This e-mail is sent by the above named in their
individual, non-business capacity and is not on
behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers.

PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming
e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and
telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you
give your consent to such monitoring

Re: (313) robots

[alex . bond]

>heres a tracklist for the Irma i-robots comp.

thanks for that, I was looking for that but couldnt find it.
there's a good couple of hundred quids worth of records on there, I want
one!

_

- End of message text 

This e-mail is sent by the above named in their
individual, non-business capacity and is not on
behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers.

PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming
e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and
telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you
give your consent to such monitoring