Re: (313) discussion means...
hear hear! At 03:39 pm -0800 16/2/04, diana potts wrote: I have to pipe up. jeepers. The one thing that I feel has happened to this list over the years is that it's gone from people *discussing* their different point of views to people pounding down their * I HEART DETROIT TECHNO MORE THAN YOU * hammers. I remember when i first joined this list almost (christ) 5yrs ago? and peopled discussed history, records etc.I learned so much. This list was fundamental laying the ground of my music education. I've observed the list go from this ideology to "Listen to me because I KNOW!" followed by two snaps up in the air and a chickenhead twist of the neck. Progress only comes from discussion, from listening to different points of views, digesting, thinking and then thinking out back again. An intellectual breathing process if you will. We always seem to come back to discussions about detroit's past and never really dive into its possible future.It's the young talent of detroit that's making it breathe and stay alive right now and they don't get two seconds air time on this list, IMO.Why? In my opinion Atomly has a point, the list has an endless cylce. Atomly is part of this list,and has been for a long time and as so, his views should of been digested, not attacked so personally. This discussion got way too out of hand and way too personal *IMO*. I am one of those people who said 'i agree with you' off list in fear that posts that don't seem to comply with 'a detroit event/dj/product is flawless' are attacked. so attack me please. maybe i can end this crack binge that i refer to as the 313 list.There are so many different ways to look at this festival, so many different global perspectives exist on this list. Please keep that in mind when discussing things like _adults_. *burp* as we used to say..."flame on" diana np:my weak beats your year, TTA, Map of What is Effortless --- atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nice post, chief. Have a good one. ["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > -- Original Message -- > From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Well, I think you're wrong, but whatever, it's not worth arguing > about. > >Nothing on this list is worth arguing about, because every time I > try I > >get a bunch of responses from people saying the same thing over > and over > >because they don't understand the point I'm trying to make and > then get > >a bunch of personal replies from people off list saying "I > agree." It's > >like shouting at a wall. > > your "opinion" is about doing something youve never had any > experience doing. i dont know what to say about that really. how > many free festivals have you thrown with hundreds of thousands of > attendees? sh*t, have you done ANYTHING even CLOSE to that scale > of things? the number of things that could potentially happen in > planning something like this boggles the mind. for you to sit > there and make comments about their ability to pull it off when > you couldnt even begin to do so yourself is absolutely useless. if > you were an organizer of say the love parade in berlin perhaps > your opinion would be worthwhile. in the meantime youre just a > critic mouthing off from the peanut gallery. > > >I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm just stating my opinion. > > clarify that: your "unqualified" opinion. > > >I think > >the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the best lineups ever > booked > >in North America and were diverse enough and groundbreaking > enough to > >draw in people from all over the continent and even the world. > Since > >then, though, I feel like the festival has shifted its focus from > the > >groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the nostalgiac and > established. > > yeah, last year it shifted fosuc to people from > detroit. what a > novel concept considering the fact that it is the detroit > electronic music festival. really, if you thought last year's > lineup of up and coming people alongside some of the most > influential cats in the business doesnt stand up to the past > lineups, i dont know what to say. > > >Anyway, enough. If you wanna go to DEMF, have fun. I want > Furthur > >back. > > rave on. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
(313) No Subject
313 List Folks. Having played the "festivals" (italics mine), I have been surprised by response to them all. I did'nt think it could happen. I was a nay- sayer before the first one. But I have come to look forward to them. It is always nice to play at home. What has become a "true" hip hop city. Detroit is the birthplace of many great musical movements. Y'all come back now ya here? Shake
(313) discussion means...
I have to pipe up. jeepers. The one thing that I feel has happened to this list over the years is that it's gone from people *discussing* their different point of views to people pounding down their * I HEART DETROIT TECHNO MORE THAN YOU * hammers. I remember when i first joined this list almost (christ) 5yrs ago? and peopled discussed history, records etc.I learned so much. This list was fundamental laying the ground of my music education. I've observed the list go from this ideology to "Listen to me because I KNOW!" followed by two snaps up in the air and a chickenhead twist of the neck. Progress only comes from discussion, from listening to different points of views, digesting, thinking and then thinking out back again. An intellectual breathing process if you will. We always seem to come back to discussions about detroit's past and never really dive into its possible future.It's the young talent of detroit that's making it breathe and stay alive right now and they don't get two seconds air time on this list, IMO.Why? In my opinion Atomly has a point, the list has an endless cylce. Atomly is part of this list,and has been for a long time and as so, his views should of been digested, not attacked so personally. This discussion got way too out of hand and way too personal *IMO*. I am one of those people who said 'i agree with you' off list in fear that posts that don't seem to comply with 'a detroit event/dj/product is flawless' are attacked. so attack me please. maybe i can end this crack binge that i refer to as the 313 list.There are so many different ways to look at this festival, so many different global perspectives exist on this list. Please keep that in mind when discussing things like _adults_. *burp* as we used to say..."flame on" diana np:my weak beats your year, TTA, Map of What is Effortless --- atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice post, chief. > > Have a good one. > > ["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > -- Original Message > -- > > From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Well, I think you're wrong, but whatever, it's > not worth arguing > > about. > > >Nothing on this list is worth arguing about, > because every time I > > try I > > >get a bunch of responses from people saying the > same thing over > > and over > > >because they don't understand the point I'm > trying to make and > > then get > > >a bunch of personal replies from people off list > saying "I > > agree." It's > > >like shouting at a wall. > > > > your "opinion" is about doing something youve > never had any > > experience doing. i dont know what to say about > that really. how > > many free festivals have you thrown with hundreds > of thousands of > > attendees? sh*t, have you done ANYTHING even CLOSE > to that scale > > of things? the number of things that could > potentially happen in > > planning something like this boggles the mind. for > you to sit > > there and make comments about their ability to > pull it off when > > you couldnt even begin to do so yourself is > absolutely useless. if > > you were an organizer of say the love parade in > berlin perhaps > > your opinion would be worthwhile. in the meantime > youre just a > > critic mouthing off from the peanut gallery. > > > > >I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm just > stating my opinion. > > > > clarify that: your "unqualified" opinion. > > > > >I think > > >the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the > best lineups ever > > booked > > >in North America and were diverse enough and > groundbreaking > > enough to > > >draw in people from all over the continent and > even the world. > > Since > > >then, though, I feel like the festival has > shifted its focus from > > the > > >groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the > nostalgiac and > > established. > > > > yeah, last year it shifted fosuc to people from > detroit. what a > > novel concept considering the fact that it is the > detroit > > electronic music festival. really, if you thought > last year's > > lineup of up and coming people alongside some of > the most > > influential cats in the business doesnt stand up > to the past > > lineups, i dont know what to say. > > > > >Anyway, enough. If you wanna go to DEMF, have > fun. I want > > Furthur > > >back. > > > > rave on. > > > > tom > > > > > > > andythepooh.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > :: atomly :: > > [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... > [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : > 312.804.5389 ... > [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly > info and updates ... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
(313) 7TH City records...
Hi All, does anyone know what happened to these guys? thank you g
Re: (313) movement 04
Righty right, Stewart! The only difference between Atomly and Derrick May at this point is that he's done one festival. I'm sure he had a learning curve to overcome last year. But to say say that Atomly doesn't have a right to his opinion because he's never done it before is an empty argument. I too was a bit curious as to the lack of a VARIETY of live acts last year. And before anyone says there was this and that one playing live, yes there were a lot. There were also several of those live acts that played several times at different stages no less. I really applaud the fact that many of these performers decided to play for free. But, then again, who wouldn't?!? I think they could have easily filled the empty slots with hungry new talent from here and elsewhere easily. There are a lot of DJs and live acts that would have done it simply for the exposure, and many of them were here for the festival anyway, so no travel fees to worry about. I don't think that anyone was ever debating the fact that putting on a festival of this magnitute is a pain in the blankety-blank, but there is always room for progress and change for the better. If not, they should have just stopped after the success of the first year. Peace, Alex "Stewart Caig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/16/2004 05:17 PM To <313@hyperreal.org> cc Subject Re: (313) movement 04 > i have no problem with people making valid criticism. i hate > seeing someone who is just being ignorant trying to tear down > something do great like he could do better. pshaw. good luck man. > when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start > featuring groundbreaking performers from all over the world? ha. Its like, I went and saw that Cold Mountain and thought it kinda sucked. But I couldn't begin to make a movie like it, nor can I really comprehend the effort that must have gone into it. Does that make my opinion invalid? I dont think so. I look at things from an end product point of view, regardless of any other factors that went into it. If something sucks, I call it.
Re: (313) movement 04
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 05:05:08PM -0500, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start > featuring groundbreaking performers from all over the world? ha. I think he's on to something. -j -- Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
Re: (313) movement 04
oh yeah...that stuff i see in my wallet sometimes... just karl bartos would be cool tho even. > hey so why cant kraftwerk play? coachella is good enough but not the d?? > bitches! :P $$ _ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/
(313) bleep43 on the radio/radio playlist - 14/2/04/some tunes I love right now
hello here's last Friday's playlist this friday's show will feature various members of Bleep43 doing their thing, live and direct, throughout the show, I'll leave it them to fill you in on the precise plan, but hope you all can tune in - it should be a good'un! as an aside for those of you who like your disco/boogie, the Ronnie Dyson track below is an absolute peach - well worth hunting down. Thanks to Jonny Mcintosh/Kenny Dixon for the hook up on that one (Jonny - are you still on 313?). Can anyone recommend anything similar? The new Lucien-n-Luciano on Peacefrog is pretty cool too (with a Villalobos mix to boot). best dan CHILLED OUT PASSION - Friday nights 1-4am GMT on PASSION 107.9FM, OXFORD Live Webcast http://www.passion1079.com 14/2/04 1-4am De La Soul Me Myself and I (Instrumental) Tommy Boy MIX BY ANDREW WILSON Negativland AnnouncementSST LCD Soundsystem Losing My Edge Output Scala Remember How To Breathe Too Pure We Hiela Asphodel Flanger Bosco's Dispoable DriverNtone Model 500 In And Out R&S MapaWielku Olko Antena Krzyku Future Sound Of London Papua New GuineaPassion Music Mantronix Who Is It? Virgin Pierre HenryTeen Tonic Mercury France Antibalas Afrobeat OrchestraUprisingNinja Tune 23 Skidoo IY Ronin VVE HerzBlast First Aphex Twin Pulsewidth R&S LB SuperbadOutput SchneiderTM Light 3000 City Slang Gina X Performance Nice Mover EMI Raymond Scott MemoriesBasta Audio Visuals Pan American & BJ Cole UntitledBlast First Murcof Memoria Leaf John Zorn In The Temple Of The Hadjarim Tzadik END OF MIX Nostalgia 77Only Hush Tru Thoughts Ennio Morricone Un Uomo Nello Spazio (Computer Jockeys Mix) Compost Skalpel 1958 (Quantic Mix) Ninja Tune Minus 8 feat. BillieRunaway (Tweak Dub) Compost Ronnie DysonAll Over Your Face Cotillion K-Led Planet Underground Force Inc PortableAdhesiveContext Lucien-n-LucianoAlain Brito Peacefrog Alton MillerTulum Third Ear Frost Amygdala (AtomTM Mix) Frostworld Boxsaga Computer Love Nonstop A.D.L.I.B. feat Mos Def All Praise Due Guidance Sandoz Future Past Touch Yagya Snowflake 8 Force Inc
Re: (313) movement 04
> hey so why cant kraftwerk play? coachella is good enough but not the d?? > bitches! :P $$ > > _ > Check out the great features of the new MSN 9 Dial-up, with the MSN Dial-up > Accelerator. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ > >
Re: (313) movement 04
i have no problem with people making valid criticism. i hate seeing someone who is just being ignorant trying to tear down something do great like he could do better. pshaw. good luck man. when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start featuring groundbreaking performers from all over the world? ha. aww man go easy tho. dabrye, amp fiddler, pole, dwele, detroit experiment, liquid liquid, esg, midwest product, john arnold, ayro, double helix, norma jean bell, time:space, etc. those are just the people that i caught playing live. thats not some joker business there. i think no it's decent, but a little light on detroit techno and electro. dwele and njb had already played previous years as well. pole's last album was terrible. anyways i didnt go so i cant comment a whole lot, except to say as nice as that is the balance has still shifted towards dj's, and the live acts, as good as they may be, dont pack the punch of the first two years rosters..the third year left a taste in my mouth bad enough to not go last year, hopefully it was betetr than the third..yeah? hey so why cant kraftwerk play? coachella is good enough but not the d?? bitches! :P _ Check out the great features of the new MSN 9 Dial-up, with the MSN Dial-up Accelerator. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) movement 04
> i have no problem with people making valid criticism. i hate > seeing someone who is just being ignorant trying to tear down > something do great like he could do better. pshaw. good luck man. > when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start > featuring groundbreaking performers from all over the world? ha. Its like, I went and saw that Cold Mountain and thought it kinda sucked. But I couldn't begin to make a movie like it, nor can I really comprehend the effort that must have gone into it. Does that make my opinion invalid? I dont think so. I look at things from an end product point of view, regardless of any other factors that went into it. If something sucks, I call it.
(313) Cybernetic Broadcast System gone...
To bad, my favorite online radiostation for a long time pulled the plug today. Ferenc stopped his Cybernetic Broadcast System today. http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net/ KJ
Re: (313) movement 04
-- Original Message -- From: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >tom, why are you so pissed? who cares...people can say whatever they >want...i think energy is better spent not arguing over tossed-off >comments...why not stop and try to understand someone else's viewpoint...if >you find no value in it, write it off, dont waste your energy arguing...i >dont know if i agree with atomly but there is always room for criticism and >improvement i have no problem with people making valid criticism. i hate seeing someone who is just being ignorant trying to tear down something do great like he could do better. pshaw. good luck man. when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start featuring groundbreaking performers from all over the world? ha. >last year only a few >names on the roster even had "live" next to their name, leaving me to guess >or just hope that some of the others would be live too...but i couldnt >afford to go just guessing and hoping. dabrye, amp fiddler, pole, dwele, detroit experiment, liquid liquid, esg, midwest product, john arnold, ayro, double helix, norma jean bell, time:space, etc. those are just the people that i caught playing live. thats not some joker business there. i think perhaps the only spots lacking live acts last year was the headlining spots each day. throughout the day you could catch any number of people playing on any number of different setups from staight up live to half electronic half live. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) movement 04
clarify that: your "unqualified" opinion. tom, why are you so pissed? who cares...people can say whatever they want...i think energy is better spent not arguing over tossed-off comments...why not stop and try to understand someone else's viewpoint...if you find no value in it, write it off, dont waste your energy arguing...i dont know if i agree with atomly but there is always room for criticism and improvement >I think >the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the best lineups ever booked >in North America and were diverse enough and groundbreaking enough to >draw in people from all over the continent and even the world. Since >then, though, I feel like the festival has shifted its focus from the >groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the nostalgiac and established. i dont think its that easy to blame the roster for any decline in demf success/fun. the first year it was fresh and new. ford was running commercials on tv with model 500 and plugging the festival in mainstream publications. there was as much or more nostalgic/established stuff the first year as any other. i just hope for a focus on live music. artists actually performing their own stuff adds so much more energy and vitality and personality to the experience. i think. the first year seemed to have an excellent balance of live stuff and dj'ing, with the balance shifting towards dj's ever since. i mean 1st year you had scion, poobahs, dbx, adult, guy called gerald, scan 7, puzzlebox showcase, etc etc etc all live! there's been good live stuff every year but they really covered the spectrum 1st year. last year only a few names on the roster even had "live" next to their name, leaving me to guess or just hope that some of the others would be live too...but i couldnt afford to go just guessing and hoping. hype it up! accentuate the personalities in electronic music! put on something to show the uninitiated its real music not just dj/club culture jt _ Click here for a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: (313) Wavelab question
Try to go to: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm "Rip digitally sound from Audio CDs and store in a multitude of formats, dMC is the Fastest CD Ripper and now AccurateRip Compatible Convert from one format to another, just about every audio type is supported: mp3, mp4, Windows Media Audio (wma), Ogg Vorbis, AAC, Monkeys Audio, FLAC and many others [Codec downloads], whilst preserving ID Tags, Volume Normalize audio files, Windows Explorer Integration - right click Convert To & popup useful information on audio files (such as bitrate, length). ID tag editing [Power Pack Option], Record from LPs or anything [optional Auxiliary Input install], Fully compatible with Windows 95/98/ME NT4/2000, Windows XP and Linux (using Wine). 100% Free, No nags, popups, hidden spyware or bundleware. " Then, after converting it to *.wav using dmc-audioconverter, try again to import it into wavelab. yours, fabian. ;) -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 16. Februar 2004 21:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Wavelab question Ok sorry for the non 313 related post but I have some audio mp3 files I wish to put into Wavelab and then burn ontio other CDS but when I import them back in a .wav I seem to get (from a 1hr CD) 4hrs of .Wav and it sounds like a slow tractor over lots of bumps..ok so no change there you say but I swear this time its not my mixing :) Can anyone who is technical unlike me, help me please? many thanks! Ian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 06/02/04
Re: (313) movement 04
Nice post, chief. Have a good one. ["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > -- Original Message -- > From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Well, I think you're wrong, but whatever, it's not worth arguing > about. > >Nothing on this list is worth arguing about, because every time I > try I > >get a bunch of responses from people saying the same thing over > and over > >because they don't understand the point I'm trying to make and > then get > >a bunch of personal replies from people off list saying "I > agree." It's > >like shouting at a wall. > > your "opinion" is about doing something youve never had any > experience doing. i dont know what to say about that really. how > many free festivals have you thrown with hundreds of thousands of > attendees? sh*t, have you done ANYTHING even CLOSE to that scale > of things? the number of things that could potentially happen in > planning something like this boggles the mind. for you to sit > there and make comments about their ability to pull it off when > you couldnt even begin to do so yourself is absolutely useless. if > you were an organizer of say the love parade in berlin perhaps > your opinion would be worthwhile. in the meantime youre just a > critic mouthing off from the peanut gallery. > > >I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm just stating my opinion. > > clarify that: your "unqualified" opinion. > > >I think > >the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the best lineups ever > booked > >in North America and were diverse enough and groundbreaking > enough to > >draw in people from all over the continent and even the world. > Since > >then, though, I feel like the festival has shifted its focus from > the > >groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the nostalgiac and > established. > > yeah, last year it shifted fosuc to people from detroit. what a > novel concept considering the fact that it is the detroit > electronic music festival. really, if you thought last year's > lineup of up and coming people alongside some of the most > influential cats in the business doesnt stand up to the past > lineups, i dont know what to say. > > >Anyway, enough. If you wanna go to DEMF, have fun. I want > Furthur > >back. > > rave on. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) movement 04
-- Original Message -- From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Well, I think you're wrong, but whatever, it's not worth arguing about. >Nothing on this list is worth arguing about, because every time I try I >get a bunch of responses from people saying the same thing over and over >because they don't understand the point I'm trying to make and then get >a bunch of personal replies from people off list saying "I agree." It's >like shouting at a wall. your "opinion" is about doing something youve never had any experience doing. i dont know what to say about that really. how many free festivals have you thrown with hundreds of thousands of attendees? sh*t, have you done ANYTHING even CLOSE to that scale of things? the number of things that could potentially happen in planning something like this boggles the mind. for you to sit there and make comments about their ability to pull it off when you couldnt even begin to do so yourself is absolutely useless. if you were an organizer of say the love parade in berlin perhaps your opinion would be worthwhile. in the meantime youre just a critic mouthing off from the peanut gallery. >I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm just stating my opinion. clarify that: your "unqualified" opinion. >I think >the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the best lineups ever booked >in North America and were diverse enough and groundbreaking enough to >draw in people from all over the continent and even the world. Since >then, though, I feel like the festival has shifted its focus from the >groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the nostalgiac and established. yeah, last year it shifted fosuc to people from detroit. what a novel concept considering the fact that it is the detroit electronic music festival. really, if you thought last year's lineup of up and coming people alongside some of the most influential cats in the business doesnt stand up to the past lineups, i dont know what to say. >Anyway, enough. If you wanna go to DEMF, have fun. I want Furthur >back. rave on. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Wavelab question
Ok sorry for the non 313 related post but I have some audio mp3 files I wish to put into Wavelab and then burn ontio other CDS but when I import them back in a .wav I seem to get (from a 1hr CD) 4hrs of .Wav and it sounds like a slow tractor over lots of bumps..ok so no change there you say but I swear this time its not my mixing :) Can anyone who is technical unlike me, help me please? many thanks! Ian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 06/02/04
(313) ken collier
Ha ... that's scanned from Techno Rebels. The photo should be credited to Todd Johnson, who has one of the best memories and archives from this era. -d On Feb 16, 2004, at 1:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that theres a picture of him on the deephousepage - http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi over a downloadable film. dont know as I've not watched the film, but maybe the film has some ken collier bits?
Re: (313) Basic channel in Manc
oh yes! see you there I hope can you really do headspins? At 04:32 pm + 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Basic channel in Manc for free. zippedeedoodah, zippededay, la la la la. : ) I'll be the one spinning on my head in amongst all the people stood around scratching their beards as is de rigeur at futuresonic. come say hello! anyone coming? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Question Time
i thought it was pretty clear that i was just putting the screws to some people. just wanna make sure everyone got the joke. And Dan- about the ipod/belkin thing, don't you find it difficult to transcribe when all you have is the ipod controls to do a quick rewind? that's what's been keeping me from going there. You don't get the lighting fast chipmunk rewind when you don't quite catch what some marble mouthed musician says teh first time. On Fri, 13 Feb 2004, Matt MacQueen wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2004, at 11:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ask dan whether he uses regular cassette, mini-cassette or mini-disc to > > record his interviews =P > > i love when interviews interview other interviewers. > > I love it when a BOOK AUTHORS get interviewed by journalists. There's > a difference... in my mind anyway. Effort, level of analysis, > composition, context. You can ask a painter about which type of > brushes they use, or you can ask a painter about their art... ;) > Techno Rebels wasn't an interview or just a series of them. The sum is > greater than the parts, it was a killer piece of important, historical > non-fiction that filled a very distinct void in what it sought to > explain. > > peace > -- > Matt MacQueen > http://SonicSunset.com > >
Re: (313) Basic channel in Manc
Website is here: http://www.futuresonic.com/ Your in Dust Martin 16/2/04 5:11 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It'll be SO fascinating to see how they reinterpret their work so long > after the last release. And if Radio 1 are covering it, it'll be in nice > digital format on the net for the rest of the world to enjoy! > > Jesus Christ this year just gets better... > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 16 February 2004 16:56 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: (313) Basic channel in Manc >> >> >> I think there'll be quite a major force moving northwards >> from London for this one (with a small exploratory unit >> heading up this weekend of course!) >> >> Brendan >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 16 February 2004 16:32 >>> To: 313@hyperreal.org >>> Subject: Re: (313) Basic channel in Manc >>> >>> >>> Basic channel in Manc for free. >>> >>> zippedeedoodah, zippededay, la la la la. >>> >>> : ) >>> >>> I'll be the one spinning on my head in amongst all the people >>> stood around >>> scratching their beards as is de rigeur at futuresonic. >>> >>> come say hello! anyone coming? >>> >>> alex >> _ >>> >>> - End of message text >>> >>> This e-mail is sent by the above named in their >>> individual, non-business capacity and is not on >>> behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. >>> >>> PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming >> e-mails and >>> other telecommunications on its e-mail and >> telecommunications systems. >>> By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > >
RE: (313) Basic channel in Manc
It'll be SO fascinating to see how they reinterpret their work so long after the last release. And if Radio 1 are covering it, it'll be in nice digital format on the net for the rest of the world to enjoy! Jesus Christ this year just gets better... > -Original Message- > From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 February 2004 16:56 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Basic channel in Manc > > > I think there'll be quite a major force moving northwards > from London for this one (with a small exploratory unit > heading up this weekend of course!) > > Brendan > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 16 February 2004 16:32 > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: (313) Basic channel in Manc > > > > > > > > > Basic channel in Manc for free. > > > > zippedeedoodah, zippededay, la la la la. > > > > : ) > > > > I'll be the one spinning on my head in amongst all the people > > stood around > > scratching their beards as is de rigeur at futuresonic. > > > > come say hello! anyone coming? > > > > alex > _ > > > > - End of message text > > > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and > > other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. > > By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring > > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) Basic channel in Manc
I think there'll be quite a major force moving northwards from London for this one (with a small exploratory unit heading up this weekend of course!) Brendan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 February 2004 16:32 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Basic channel in Manc > > > > > Basic channel in Manc for free. > > zippedeedoodah, zippededay, la la la la. > > : ) > > I'll be the one spinning on my head in amongst all the people > stood around > scratching their beards as is de rigeur at futuresonic. > > come say hello! anyone coming? > > alex > _ > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you > give your consent to such monitoring > > > >
Re: (313) Basic channel in Manc
> Basic channel in Manc for free. zippedeedoodah, zippededay, la la la la. : ) I'll be the one spinning on my head in amongst all the people stood around scratching their beards as is de rigeur at futuresonic. come say hello! anyone coming? alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Basic channel in Manc
HOLY SHEIIITTT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. YES! See you in the sweet spot. > -Original Message- > From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 February 2004 16:03 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Basic channel in Manc > > > For free... http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2002 > >
RE: (313) movement 04
It was always better "back in the day"... ;0) So, Atomly- you don't think that DEMF / Movement has ANY value?? RB -Original Message- From: atomly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 February 2004 4:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) movement 04 ["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > im saying you dont need to be a professional artist to make good art, > but business is a different story. provide some credentials involving > free festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of people while getting > corporate sponsors from the highest levels, showing me why youre more > qualified to make these decisions than the people who are making them > and i'll shut up. in the meantime you just sound like dj entropy > trying to get on peoples' nerves. Well, I think you're wrong, but whatever, it's not worth arguing about. Nothing on this list is worth arguing about, because every time I try I get a bunch of responses from people saying the same thing over and over because they don't understand the point I'm trying to make and then get a bunch of personal replies from people off list saying "I agree." It's like shouting at a wall. I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm just stating my opinion. I think the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the best lineups ever booked in North America and were diverse enough and groundbreaking enough to draw in people from all over the continent and even the world. Since then, though, I feel like the festival has shifted its focus from the groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the nostalgiac and established. Anyway, enough. If you wanna go to DEMF, have fun. I want Furthur back. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the "To" or "Cc" lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
Re: (313) movement 04
["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > im saying you dont need to be a professional artist to make good art, > but business is a different story. provide some credentials involving > free festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of people while getting > corporate sponsors from the highest levels, showing me why youre more > qualified to make these decisions than the people who are making them > and i'll shut up. in the meantime you just sound like dj entropy > trying to get on peoples' nerves. Well, I think you're wrong, but whatever, it's not worth arguing about. Nothing on this list is worth arguing about, because every time I try I get a bunch of responses from people saying the same thing over and over because they don't understand the point I'm trying to make and then get a bunch of personal replies from people off list saying "I agree." It's like shouting at a wall. I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm just stating my opinion. I think the festivals in 2000 and 2001 were some of the best lineups ever booked in North America and were diverse enough and groundbreaking enough to draw in people from all over the continent and even the world. Since then, though, I feel like the festival has shifted its focus from the groundbreaking and forward-thinking to the nostalgiac and established. Anyway, enough. If you wanna go to DEMF, have fun. I want Furthur back. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Drexciya's Black Sea
The Drexciya track on Soul in Motion was 'Journey Home' There was also a great track off Digital Soul records on there too ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: (313) Drexciya's Black Sea > > >I'm seeking this track on vinyl. I know that this > >track appears on both Techno Nations vol 6 and Drexciya > >5 on Warp, but these releases are not accesible to me > >on vinyl at the moment. > >Does this track appear anywhere else? > > There was a wicked compilation on Irma called "Soul In Motion" that had one > of the drexciya tracks from the warp ep on. but I'm not at home so I cant > remember which one it was. > it was a col comp though, full of dope stuff, well worth getting. > should be still available, came out last year sometime. > _ > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you > give your consent to such monitoring > > > >
(313) Basic channel in Manc
For free... http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2002
Re: (313) Drexciya's Black Sea
>I'm seeking this track on vinyl. I know that this >track appears on both Techno Nations vol 6 and Drexciya >5 on Warp, but these releases are not accesible to me >on vinyl at the moment. >Does this track appear anywhere else? There was a wicked compilation on Irma called "Soul In Motion" that had one of the drexciya tracks from the warp ep on. but I'm not at home so I cant remember which one it was. it was a col comp though, full of dope stuff, well worth getting. should be still available, came out last year sometime. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) New Rick Wade/Kai Alce and Ron Trent
- Javier Drada - Deep House Session 1.37 - Rick Wade - Night Station - Music Is - DJ Pope - Running Wild - Trackmode (TM049) - Audiomontage - The Darkness - Freerange - Gate-Ah - The Shelter (Underground Committee Edit) - Shelter - Glenn Underground - Silent Cry (Euphoria Moog Mix) - Trackmode (TM042) - Abicah Soul - Chukie's Turn - Jellybean - Jaque - Keys of Life (Underground Collective Vocal Mix) - Jellybean - Kai Alce and Ron Trent - Sa K' Pase - Trackmode (TM051) - Pascal Rioux feat. Mr. Day - Golden Days (Main Mix) - Rotax This mix includes a cut from the new Rick Wade EP due out April '04 on Music Is UK, also included is the upcoming Trackmode release of Kai Alce and Ron Trent (TM051) Due out March '04. http://www.undergroundcommittee.com/media/JD037.ram Enjoy... Javier Drada http://www.undergroundcommittee.com http://www.trackmode.com http://www.bangtheparty.com http://www.bounceFM.com
Re: (313) Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2004 06:42:35 -0000 Issue 1962
Agreed...A lot of the crowd is the same crowd from the Downtown Hoe-Down just there becaus ethere is something going on. I bet that admission would drop by ~1/3 just due to those types ... > > i think part of the good thing about movement is how > many locals > come out just to hang out and listen to the music. if > you charged > admission that wouldnt happen and it would lose alot of > its > attraction. changing it to just heads devoted enough to > the music > to shell out cash would be bad. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2004 06:42:35 -0000 Issue 1962
Agreed...A lot of the crowd is the same crowd from the Downtown Hoe-Down just there becaus ethere is something going on. I bet that admission would drop by ~1/3 just due to those types ... > > i think part of the good thing about movement is how > many locals > come out just to hang out and listen to the music. if > you charged > admission that wouldnt happen and it would lose alot of > its > attraction. changing it to just heads devoted enough to > the music > to shell out cash would be bad. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: (313) Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2004 06:42:35 -0000 Issue 1962
-- Original Message -- From: Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >As for it not turning a profit ... doesn't anyone remember the $3 >Movement buttons from last year? You all bought yours, RIGHT? i bought 4 of them, and i was unemployed and on a seriously tight budget. >I gladly pay 75 Euros for Sonar every year and I think it's a bargain - >and as far as "Charging admission will make attendance plummet" goes, >well Sonar gets bigger and bigger every year - too big, I think - and >it's 75 Euros more than Movement is. i think part of the good thing about movement is how many locals come out just to hang out and listen to the music. if you charged admission that wouldnt happen and it would lose alot of its attraction. changing it to just heads devoted enough to the music to shell out cash would be bad. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) movement 04
-- Original Message -- From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Well, then, you're saying business is immune to critique? im saying you dont need to be a professional artist to make good art, but business is a different story. provide some credentials involving free festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of people while getting corporate sponsors from the highest levels, showing me why youre more qualified to make these decisions than the people who are making them and i'll shut up. in the meantime you just sound like dj entropy trying to get on peoples' nerves. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Re: 313 Digest 16 Feb 2004 06:42:35 -0000 Issue 1962
On Feb 15, 2004, at 10:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like how defensive you guys all got about this. I made a simple statement that they somehow managed to drop attendance from 1M to 600K and I think it was for good reason. They've lost all the excitement of the lineup and managed to take it from one of the most exciting festivals ever organized to something I only went to for one night last year. Carl Craig booked a diverse lineup that you couldn't see anywhere else in the world whereas last year they must've done all the bookings out of a Detroit white pages from 1996. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA Dude, Doris needs to drag you out here to LA to come visit yussel sometime. YOU. CAN'T. SEE. THESE. PEOPLE. OUT. HERE. ANYTIME. PERIOD. Of the acts from last year that Fred listed to refute you, I can think of maybe *15* that have appeared in LA, *ever*. I can't believe the complaints I see about Movement/DEMF on this list sometimes - "Wauugh, the festival's so lame, I only went one day". (Personally, I thought 2003's festival was a LOT better than 2002's. Endless Eminem video advertisements anyone?) Stay home then and let those of us who *never get to see these people* come and enjoy it. To me the DEMF/Movement is a celebration - a celebration of the music, the people that make the music, and a celebration of Detroit and the great people that live there. I come from 2000 miles/3200 km away and spend a ton of money to get there and stay there every year, and it's worth every penny and every minute. There is NO comparison to DEMF/Movement anywhere in North America. Coachella? Too Rock-oriented, and too damn hot (ever try listening to music when it's over 100 F out, and your whole body is dripping?). WMC? Don't make me laugh. Mutek? I'm sure it's great, but ... As for it not turning a profit ... doesn't anyone remember the $3 (that's about half a quid or 1 Euro ... oh, wait, not quite that bad yet? Just give the dollar and Dubya a few more weeks and it will be) Movement buttons from last year? You all bought yours, RIGHT? If 600,000-odd people had ALL bought buttons like they should've, that would've been over $1.8 million in the Movement coffers. Anybody that can't/won't cough up $3 for a button doesn't deserve to go, IMHO. I gladly pay 75 Euros for Sonar every year and I think it's a bargain - and as far as "Charging admission will make attendance plummet" goes, well Sonar gets bigger and bigger every year - too big, I think - and it's 75 Euros more than Movement is. - Greg
(313) Drexciya's Black Sea
I'm seeking this track on vinyl. I know that this track appears on both Techno Nations vol 6 and Drexciya 5 on Warp, but these releases are not accesible to me on vinyl at the moment. Does this track appear anywhere else? Thanks... PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration
Thanks to all who made constructive suggestions about this artist. I can tell there's some good music in there for the ignorant like me, to discover. Peace, k >-Original Message- >From: matt kane's brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:52 PM >To: Forrest L Norvell; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration > > >At 05:13 AM 2/16/2004, Forrest L Norvell wrote: >>OK, if you're still with me, there are a number of records I can >>recommend. Acardipane's definitely a 12" guy, and the one record of >>his you're most likely to have heard would be the Mescalinium United >>"We Have Arrived" remixes that Aphex Twin did years and years >>ago. It's still pretty easy to find, too. > >The remixes are on the Aphex Twin "Classics" compilation that's >REALLY easy >to find. > > >-- >unsigned short int to_yer_mama; >http://www.dirty.org/~mkb >Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration
At 05:13 AM 2/16/2004, Forrest L Norvell wrote: OK, if you're still with me, there are a number of records I can recommend. Acardipane's definitely a 12" guy, and the one record of his you're most likely to have heard would be the Mescalinium United "We Have Arrived" remixes that Aphex Twin did years and years ago. It's still pretty easy to find, too. The remixes are on the Aphex Twin "Classics" compilation that's REALLY easy to find. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.dirty.org/~mkb Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) fao Chris Anglesey
Hi Chris. didnt have your email address to hand, but you were asking about Ken Collier. I noticed that theres a picture of him on the deephousepage - http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi over a downloadable film. dont know as I've not watched the film, but maybe the film has some ken collier bits? ta Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) rare pieces pt2
Hi My mate is selling off his techno bit by bit, some rare stuff here! all £3 start no reserve. do advanced search for ebay seller id - somehead Armando - Land of Confusion - Warehouse Number 1 Original Press! BFC - Static Friendly - Fragile, first reissue, rare artwork Basic Channel - Domina Basic Channel - M5 Basic Channel - Phylps Track II Basic Channel - Q1.1 Black Dog - Cost II Brother..Another Planet - Planet Earth - Rare first release on DBX's 7th City, Blue Vinyl!! Drexciya - Deep Sea Dweller Gherkin Jerks - Don't Dis The Beat - recent reissue, now deleted again Juan Atkins - Sonar 123 - peacefrog sampler w/ Shake/Neuropolitique/M.Bonds/Infiniti Juan Atkins - The Future Sound EP Rare UK issue ULR ep. 4 killer tracks Kosmic Messenger - I Find Myself - Rare first issue on Eclipse M5003MB - Jazz Is The Teacher - US Metroplex Maurizio - Ploy - M1 Model 500 - The Chase - US Metroplex Octave One - Point Blank - US 430 West Paperclip People - Remake Uno - US Planet E Psyche - Crackdown - Transmat Classics Ray Munnings - Funky Nassau Round Three - Acting Crazy Santonio - That's Where It's At - Rare track on US Siren Underground Resistance - Codebreaker Underground Resistance - World 2 World Drexciya - The Unknown Aquazone UR - Electronic Warfare Hotmix 5 - Acid LP apologies for those not interested. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:39:50AM -, Ken Odeluga wrote:
> > Marc Acardipane is one of my favorite producers of all time, but
> > that record was a HUGE disappointment. The Mover is all about the
> > doom, and that record was all about... I don't know, boring, cold
> > techno with no atmosphere to it.
>
> OK, I'm less familiar with his work. What would you recommend of his
> that's better than this?
BIG FAT DISCLAIMERS: If you don't have a residual fondness for big
stupid doomy old-style rave music / EBM (think "James Brown Is Dead",
"Anasthasia", or "I Sit On Acid"), then Acardipane probably isn't your
cup of tea. Acardipane is one of the pioneers of both gabber and
doomcore (which is basically gabber at half the speed and twice the
attitude, goth-industrial music for drugged-out 15 year old candy
ravers). One of the labels he started, Cold Rush Records, has as its
slogan "music for huge space arenas". He's one of Simon Reynolds's
favorite producers ever.
OK, if you're still with me, there are a number of records I can
recommend. Acardipane's definitely a 12" guy, and the one record of
his you're most likely to have heard would be the Mescalinium United
"We Have Arrived" remixes that Aphex Twin did years and years
ago. It's still pretty easy to find, too. "One World No Future" by
Marc Acardipane is probably the most ominous piece of hardcore techno
/ doomcore / gabber ever recorded. "Underwater Operations" by The
Mover is one of the most beautiful trancey dark techno records I've
ever heard, and the Lightbringer EP on PCP is amazing -- dark,
bass-heavy and minimal. It would mix well into a set with some of
Adult.'s darker material.
His old "Frontal Sickness" LP on PCP is straight-up brilliant, if you
can get onto its wavelength. It's basically a set of reinterpretations
of "The Art Of Stalking" run through the Frankfurt FFM doom filters
(topical!). And although semi-hard to find, the _PCP Phuture_
double-pack is a scarily intense collection of music.
That said, there are three CD compilations you might actually be able
to find (old PCP stuff is scarce, although it pops up with fair
frequency on eBay): the Best of Marc Acardipane 2xCD on ID&T, the Cold
Rush Records 2xCD, and the Dance Ecstasy 2017 (sic) 2xCD -- the latter
two are on PCP Acardipane (which is somehow different from both PCP
and Acardipane records -- the Acardipane discography is incredibly
tangled, don't ask). If I had to pick one, I'd probably go with the
Acardipane comp, because it has the brilliantly dumb "I Like It Loud"
and the just plain brilliant "Into Sound" on it, and less of the
frankly disposable gabber and breakcore stuff. If you can't get that,
I think the Cold Rush compilation is brilliant (no lie, there's a
couple duff tracks on it, but nothing else I've ever heard is as good
at establishing its peculiarly oppressive mood -- like _Sheet One_-era
Plastikman in a really, really grim mood).
And anyone who listens to Acardipane's stuff and likes it should scare
up a copy of the Lunatic Asylum _Paranoid Archive_ 3xCD. It's insanely
well produced and a little more accessible than a lot of Acardipane's
stuff. The Horrorist album _Manic Panic_ isn't half bad, either, and
has some of the best spoken word stories I've ever heard about the
seamy side of raving in New York circa 1995 or so on it ("One Night In
New York City" is both disturbing and hilarious). And the single for
the Horrorist's "Flesh Is The Fever" has a remix by Acardipane, as
well as a remix by Manu le Malin that is easily the best, most messed
up doomcore tune I've ever heard.
I love this stuff, obviously. Most techno aesthetes hate it. Your
mileage will vary.
yrz,
Forrest
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RE: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration
>> OK, I'm less familiar with his work. What would you recommend of >his that's >> better than this? > >check out his productions under alias "Mescalinum United" >especially "We have arrived". and i happen to like "Alien Christ of >Suns and Moons" http://www.discogs.com/release/84967 > >Marc has used zillion aliases, as you can see from the discogs page: >http://www.discogs.com/artist/Marc_Acardipane > Cheers for the constructive response Sakke. Ken
RE: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration
Ken Odeluga wrote on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 about following: > Marc Acardipane is one of my favorite producers of all > >time, but that record was a HUGE disappointment. The Mover is all > > OK, I'm less familiar with his work. What would you recommend of his that's > better than this? check out his productions under alias "Mescalinum United" especially "We have arrived". and i happen to like "Alien Christ of Suns and Moons" http://www.discogs.com/release/84967 Marc has used zillion aliases, as you can see from the discogs page: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Marc_Acardipane sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
RE: (313) tresor meets apple/Mover - Frontal Frustration
Marc Acardipane is one of my favorite producers of all >time, but that record was a HUGE disappointment. The Mover is all >about the doom, and that record was all about... I don't know, boring, >cold techno with no atmosphere to it. > >F OK, I'm less familiar with his work. What would you recommend of his that's better than this? k
Re: (313) Cool Peepl - Shari Vari
Hey Matt, I can't hear the .rm file at the moment, but I think this is the remix of Shari Vari that Mike Grant did for the double pack of Shari Vari remixes that came out thru Puzzlebox. Peace, Patrick. At 12:24 AM -0600 16/2/04, Matt MacQueen wrote: another version of Shari Vari making the rounds, on a ltd. 10" on Moods & Grooves... really deep lounge jazz / almost R&B take on the original. A little too clean for me personally.. but hey, the lyrics sounds awesome to be actually sung by a sexy female voice for a change. Also, i heard this somewhere before... but where? Was this on a Compilation? Not that puzzlebox one with all the remixes, was it?? Sample here: http://www.big50entertainment.com/moods/mg026.html peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com -- -- Southern Outpost - Sydney. Distribution: Twilight 76, Detroit http://www.southernoutpost.com Infiltrating your sound systems. --
Re: (313) movement 04
By most accounts, last year's lineup was the strongest since the first DEMF. Even accounting for some variation, I've found the lineups to be well above my quite high tolerance level for big public events. I mean, I'm the kind of person who will walk out of a movie half an hour in if it sucks. (Better choice: read the reviews and avoid bad movies! But you can't let movie reviewers run your life either :) I guess we'll just have to disagree about last year's performers. If this is charted as "defensive," so be it. I am glad to see Derrick May is talking about mixing it up again this year and bringing in more bands. The festival can't progress without change. fred
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[Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > You talk about defensiveness, Atomly, but then you say things > like this: > > "Carl Craig booked a diverse lineup that you couldn't see anywhere > else in the world whereas last year they must've done all the > bookings out of a Detroit white pages from 1996." I don't see that's "defensive," but OK. > As for those attendance figures, everyone knows they are eyewash. If > anything, the festival is too crowded at least half the time, given > the physical limitations of Hart Plaza. But that also keeps the > crowds to a manageable level. Eyewash to us, but not to the city and certainly not to sponsors. As far as lineups are concerned, I'd certainly be much more apt to travel to see the likes of Tikiman, Rich circa DE9, Assault, Godfather, The Roots, Mos Def, Autechre, Stacey Pullen, Inner City, Tortoise, Jazzanova, Nobukazu Takemura, Kooky Scientist, Prefuse 73, Kit Clayton, Laurent Garnier, De La Soul, Mix Master Mike, Kenny Larkin, Todd Sines, Common Factor, Tiki Man, Derrick Carter, Perspects, A Guy Called Gerald, DBX, Cash Money and Derek Plaslaiko than what has been booked the last few years. Maybe it just comes down to personal preference, but I'd honestly pay money to see any of these people and put any four of them together and I'd travel to see it. The same can't be said, however, for the last few festivals. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > youre not critiqueing an artform, youre claiming that people who get > paid to do business dont know how to do their business. there's a > reason theyre called professionals. Well, then, you're saying business is immune to critique? -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
(313) Cool Peepl - Shari Vari
another version of Shari Vari making the rounds, on a ltd. 10" on Moods & Grooves... really deep lounge jazz / almost R&B take on the original. A little too clean for me personally.. but hey, the lyrics sounds awesome to be actually sung by a sexy female voice for a change. Also, i heard this somewhere before... but where? Was this on a Compilation? Not that puzzlebox one with all the remixes, was it?? Sample here: http://www.big50entertainment.com/moods/mg026.html peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) Rephlex reissue / mahogani / Iridite / etc
On Feb 14, 2004, at 6:06 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: It's Black Devil Disco Club - I think Luke Vibert discovered it at a car boot sale. Matt McQueen played it on his show last week - s'good - http://www.rephlex.com/2001releases/cat146/cat146.html thanks Rob... yep it's on the Feb 6th show, at about 51:00, here's a link http://sonicsunset.com/#6feb2004 if you haven't checked out a show in awhile, this one i was really happy with how it turned out "as a whole'", and i upped the quality to 128k MP3... still kind of all over the place stylistically tho :) Huge tip o' the hat for Morgan Geist who turned me on to this Black Devil craziness... brilliant. he's been playing it for quite awhile and has the original (!) and all 4 tracks are really good /crazy / funky / italo /psycho / deep sh*t ! BTW - if you want that Feb. 6th show get it quick, in a day I'm gonna put up the Feb. 13th show, also featuring the new detroit Mahogani record by Kai Alce (M7) and some new Playhouse joint and brand new (killer!!) Iridite on downLow music as well. peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) detroit rock album covers
Hey all, Anyone (local or otherwise) with copies of the White Stripes "Hotel Yorba" single or the compilation "The Sympathetic Sounds of Detroit," contact me off-list. I'm looking for scans of the covers if possible. Thanks, -d
Re: (313) movement 04
-- Original Message -- From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >OK, I totally don't understand this reasoning. So from now on I can't >complain about a record unless I offer to do a remix for them or >something? I thought I was allowed to state my opinion-- maybe I'm >wrong. youre not critiqueing an artform, youre claiming that people who get paid to do business dont know how to do their business. there's a reason theyre called professionals. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Ken Collier info
On Feb 11, 2004, at 5:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that there are several reasons why Ken isn't discussed much on the list 1. not many existing mixes out there - or people just aren't sharing them 2. he didn't leave much behind in way of recorded music 3. not many list members (current) ever got to experience Ken's talent yes all excellent points I think if you wanted to learn more about him you'd have to talk to people like Terrence Parker, Mike Grant, Norm Talley, etc. Dan Sicko's "Techno Rebels" I think had some content on Ken Also, Delano Smith (of Mixmode records and part of the Detroit Beatdown collective releases on Third Ear) used to DJ at a weekly with Ken for a couple of years, he's probably got some great stories.Speaking of Delano... if you haven't heard 'feel this' it's awesome... more on Mixmode here, btw: http://www.groovedis.com/labels/mixmode/mixmode.asp I know that Ken worked with Was (Not Was) on either remixes or productions as well there is a Feb 16th release coming out by the way of Was (Not Was) called "Squeaks" that will feature all of the early dance remixes from 1980-82 and Ken's will be included so something to look forward to didn't know this... very cool!His mix is awesome, too. wheel me out, -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) movement 04
You talk about defensiveness, Atomly, but then you say things like this: "Carl Craig booked a diverse lineup that you couldn't see anywhere else in the world whereas last year they must've done all the bookings out of a Detroit white pages from 1996." Let's review the evidence then. Open up the phone directory and we find: Akufen Amp Fiddler Andres Aril Brikha Ayro Ben Bracken Blaze (TBC) Brad Hales Buzz Goree Carl Craig and Detroit Experiment Carlos Souffront Clark Warner Danny Krivit Dabrye Delano Smith DJ Spinna (TBC) Double Helix Dwele D Wynn Eddie Fowlkes ESG Francois K Fusion Genesis Grandwizzard Theodore Jazzy Jay Jeff Mills Jimmy Edgar Jon Arnold John Beltran Juan Atkins Kevin Saunderson and Kenny Larkin K. Hand Korie Liquid Liquid Magda Marcellus Pittman Matthew Dear Mike Clark Mike Grant Milo (Wild Bunch/Massive Attack) Niko Marks (TBC) Norma Jean Bell Norm Talley Perspects Peven Everett Pole Reese Project Reggie Dokes Richie Hawtin (TBC) Rolando Ron Trent Sans Soliel Scott Zacharias Anthony (Shake) Shakir Slum Village Spacek Stacey Hale Stacy Pullen Szysmanski Tamion 12" The 3 Chairs featuring Kenny Dixon Jr. Theo Parrish Thinkbox Thomas Fehlman Time:Space Ursula Rucker Vikter Duplaix Wolf Eyes (pulled this list from the Freep lineup in an early May 2003 news story so it's not 100% accurate) I'll see Mike Grant, Agent X, my man Reggie Dokes, Shake, Kelli, Clark, Buzz, John Arnold, etc. etc. etc. ANY DAY. As for those attendance figures, everyone knows they are eyewash. If anything, the festival is too crowded at least half the time, given the physical limitations of Hart Plaza. But that also keeps the crowds to a manageable level. fred
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["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > anyway, i wonder why your name didnt pop up when they were getting > their finances together this year since you seem to think its so easy. OK, I totally don't understand this reasoning. So from now on I can't complain about a record unless I offer to do a remix for them or something? I thought I was allowed to state my opinion-- maybe I'm wrong. I like how defensive you guys all got about this. I made a simple statement that they somehow managed to drop attendance from 1M to 600K and I think it was for good reason. They've lost all the excitement of the lineup and managed to take it from one of the most exciting festivals ever organized to something I only went to for one night last year. Carl Craig booked a diverse lineup that you couldn't see anywhere else in the world whereas last year they must've done all the bookings out of a Detroit white pages from 1996. In my opinion they're booking too many acts and spending too much money on people that I don't think will draw enough people to justify what they're paying for them. And anybody who says people aren't in this for "profit" is lying to themselves. If you're making music or doing shows for a living, you can't afford to lose money on every gig you play or every show you book. I know a lot of people who managed to still make a living off of music last year. In tight times you just have to be more careful about what you do. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
