RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
>I do know what you mean, I went to see Stiff Little Fingers a while a >go and had to leave for a number of reasons :) exactly.. the kids are listening to stuff like nu monkey which to my ears is bollocks, but there you go - our dads thought tg were bollocks too..
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
On 29 Nov 2005, at 17:11, Kelly, Stephen wrote: How can they? And why would they. Who just stands still and doesn't grow, both as people and artists... but who are tg relevant to now?.. apart from their old fans?.. do you know what i mean?.. there are going to be a lot of fat, balding blokes in berlin on new years eve.. as a long time fan i just find it confusing.. the last thing i expect tg to be is predictable though, and perhaps this is the least predictable thing tg could have done.. I do know what you mean, I went to see Stiff Little Fingers a while a go and had to leave for a number of reasons :) I'd guess that there's plenty of people who didn't see them back in the day or who have got into them now. I think there stuff is still very relevant but I've no idea who's listening. the last thing i expect tg to be is predictable though That'll be the old age setting in> m
Re: (313) Goings-on in Philadelpha? (OT)
I'm playing with dan bell in philly on saturday ...
rizumu : saturday december 3rd : by funkshun
http://funkshun.us
LAVAZONE : http://lavazone.org/
LAVA is the Lancaster AVenue Autonomous space, a community center for
radical media and politics.
4134 Lancaster Ave
Philadelphia, PA 19104
10pm till late . 18 to enter . $10
sound by nofrills and eye don't know . video courtesy of full circle
delicious catering by cosmia, katelynn, jillface and becky
DJs:
DANIEL BELL aka DBX [7th City|Accelerate|Tresor:Berlin-Detroit]
http://daniel-bell.com/
http://inthemix.com.au/features/23336/ : recent interview
SPINOZA [the Bunker:NYC]
http://klever.org/thebunkernyc/
FULL CIRCLE [Techsupport : Philly]
OWEN from ireland [Funkshun : Philly]
On 11/28/05 7:51 PM, "diana potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hmmm
>
> Record Stores:
> (both on South St. & 4th)
> 611 ('tis ok, some good 'f00k trance' shirts
> cue records (no techno really, just a lot of hip hop
> and older things, people are a lot more friend than
> 611 IMHO, I've gotten some great old electro there)
> philadelphia jazz/record exchange- i believe this is
> on 5 & South
> AKA Music really great used section of CDs, records, a
> good selection over all- Second and Market
>
> To do:
> Next Friday is First Friday. This is when all the
> galleries in Philly stay open late and most serve free
> food, cheap wine, and people brouse the galleries.
> This all happens in Olde City, stick around Market to
> Race in between 2 to 5th. Check out the Lineage
> Gallery on 2nd near Market, they have some great
> stuff- they did a Ron English and Sam Flores show and
> they just hosted a tour of Dr.Suess original
> artwork/sculptures.(you'll find AKA just a few doors
> down)
>
> Grab a Philadelphia Weekly and City Paper for
> happenings. There's lots of good pubs in philly and
> lots of bad, big clubs just like any other city. If
> you want to see some great neighborhoods I suggest a
> walk between 14th to 23rd around walnut to south- old
> and beautiful row homes and narrow, stone streets that
> make Philly...well Philly. If you're looking for the
> "Urban Outfitters-Brooklyn" end of things check out
> Northern Liberties. It's far from the center of
> things, but has some good pubs and places to eat (I
> suggest Azure).
>
> To be a scenester stop by The Continental and grab a
> Buzz Aldrige (sp) martini- it's made with Tang with
> you're on olde city enjoying 1st friday.
>
> To eat...depends on where you are staying, there are
> lots of good places to eat around the city, Morimoto
> has a Japanese joint with AMAzing sushi, and there's
> lots of little places here and there-Email with your
> likings and we can get into specifics. Most of the
> places everyone tells you to get cheesesteaks- they
> arent the really good places to get them...just
> tourist traps.
> Pharmacia is good, it's all organic farm food and it's
> on 3rd and Market- not too mention their barista is
> amazingly wonderful (and not just because he's my
> boyfriend:)).
> Philadephia is a big grid, it's hard to get lost.
> Museums your liking? check out the infamous Body Works
> show going on at the Franklin Institute. On Sundays
> the Philadelphia Art Museum has 'pay as you wish'
> until 3 and a pretty amazing collection of Asian and
> European art.
>
> Hope this helps...everyone!
> d
>
>
> --- Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I will be in the "City of Brotherly Love" this
>> weekend, wondering if
>> anyone has recommendations on any events that may be
>> happening
>> Saturday evening? Also, the normal tips...record
>> shops, cool areas of
>> the city, good hotels to check out?
>>
>> Any info is appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>
>
>
>
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RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
>How can they? And why would they. Who just stands still and doesn't >grow, both as people and artists... but who are tg relevant to now?.. apart from their old fans?.. do you know what i mean?.. there are going to be a lot of fat, balding blokes in berlin on new years eve.. as a long time fan i just find it confusing.. the last thing i expect tg to be is predictable though, and perhaps this is the least predictable thing tg could have done..
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
How can they? And why would they. Who just stands still and doesn't grow, both as people and artists... On 29 Nov 2005, at 16:37, Kelly, Stephen wrote: as a fan, i'm not sure that this throbbing gristle stand for the same things as before.. and that's what's most shocking to me..
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
On 11/29/05, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Massive fan as I am of UR (etc) that I am, I still find myself asking > what the hell relevance do they have vis a vis any one else's type of > self-expression? > > What you say about their work ethic might well be true, but it's a > sterile point in the context of this topic. i see kent's point, being that for UR everything culminates in their bringing in new people, "graduating" the old guys, and generally keeping the cycle of music as the main focal point. of course im also a fan of people who use spectacle in their art as well, such as lee perry or sun ra. all i know about TG or psychick TV is that the stuff around their music always seemed more interesting than most of the actual music itself, which is fine and dandy really, but it keeps them from being inspirational to me outside of the really remedial appreciation i have for things underground and contrary. id much rather rock some coil, or some other old experimental/industrial stuff. tom
RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
as a fan, i'm not sure that this throbbing gristle stand for the same things as before.. and that's what's most shocking to me..
(313) admin question: To curse on 313, or not to curse?
I've not discussed this with Matt Mcqueen (the other admin of 313) so this is a trial balloon. When I wade through the 313 admin mailbox, I notice that lots of people get messages bounced from the 313 list because of the use of various epithets George added to a bounce list many years ago, including the ever popular f*ck and sh*t. I've explained the rationale more than once, but again, this isn't because we care what language you use, but to keep people who use work e-mail accounts to read 313 from getting in trouble due to e-mail filtering. What I'm wondering is this: Is this even a relevant restriction at this point? This list restriction goes back to a time when it was actually difficult to GET an e-mail account. Taking the restriction off would cut out most of the bounced messages. Since EZMLM doesn't even tell you that it's rejected your message, most people are mystified when they send a message and it doesn't appear on the list. Then my job would be easier -- all I'd have to worry about is telling people over and over to turn off rich formatting in Gmail, Hotmail, Outlook, Thunderbird, etc, etc. And since I'm lazy, would only those who would be negatively affected by a removal of the curse filter reply to me privately? i.e. make sure the 'To' address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not 313 at hyperreal.org). If you're in favor of losing the filter, you don't need to reply. Since this isn't a big deal either way, I'd be inclined to leave the restriction in place if even a few people think it's still necessary. Cheers, Kent
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
On 29 Nov 2005, at 15:49, Kent Williams wrote: There's obviously no accounting for taste -- and I'm def. not slagging yours. I have none so don't worry Kent :) I've heard a lot of Psychic TV over the years without it ever really getting under my skin. Not my cup of whatever. If you're a fan and Gen's work is meaningful to you, that's great. My first paragraph says precisely that I _don't_ think he just does things to shock. Agreed. I've read through his websites, and interviews over the years, so I know he's always thought carefully about what he does, and that he's serious. But like a lot of artists I could name, I am not sold on the end product. The process is still interesting though, not everything is about A or B, sometime the journey is more interesting... At the end of the day, there's so much music worth a listen out there that I've given up trying to keep current on everything, and follow my nose. Always worth a "dip" tho... And I live in Iowa, USA, so I've yet to get my head into the Daily Mail. Unlucky and lucky - just watch Fox News, you get the picture. And anyway, while one should not judge a book by its cover, artists definitely limit their audience with the cover they choose for their books. If you aren't willing to look beyond the cover, well you know the rest... :) On 11/29/05, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I'll bite Gen has always depended on shock to make his point, and he's made a few valid points along the way -- the primary one being to use any means necessary to resist subsumption into capitalist money making machine. One day, Throbbing Gristle has Parliement up in arms, the next, someone's trying to turn the outrage into something to make money from. If you think he's gone through what he has just to shock people, you probably need to think it through again because it's wrong on many levels. There's no doubt he does things to make you question things but pure shock is more Whitehouse than G-PO... On the other hand, there are people out there who make art that doesn't need to be offensive to be affecting and relevant. Case in point -- the rest of the TG crew's work after TG, which remained edgey and wonderful without being a complete freak show. Others might disagree with me, but I'd be a whole lot more impressed with Gen if he'd stop trying to make himself into a homely middle aged tart to scare the citizens and really get down to cases musically. Classic judging the book by it's cover, get your head out of the Daily Mail, since TG have you followed his work much? It's especially interesting -- for the purposes of this list -- to contrast the work ethic that Detroit Techno artists bring to the music with whatever the hell it is that Gen P Orridge is doing. The UR building -- with the garden tools in the entrance to the record store -- is far more revolutionary. Square peg and round hole spring to mind... m
RE: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
-Original Message- From: Kent Williams said: >Gen has always depended on shock to make his point, Point? What point? Maybe the 'point' is that there is no point. I certainly couldn't find one, even if I did find stuff in TG and after which I could enjoy. The question is why should anyone who makes art, make art that you don't find offensive? If you don't like it, don't look at it and don't buy it. (I say this as a person who's not particularly a fan of TG and as someone for whom TG's latest look is not particularly my cup of tea.) It seems muddle-headed to defend someone's right to do what they want to do artistically, so long as it doesn't offend you. >On the other hand, there are people out there who make art that doesn't need to be offensive to be affecting and relevant. Case in point -- the rest of the TG crew's work after TG, which remained edgey and wonderful without being a complete freak show. Others might disagree with me, but I'd be a whole lot more impressed with Gen if he'd stop trying to make himself into a homely middle aged tart to scare the citizens and really get down to cases musically. >It's especially interesting -- for the purposes of this list -- to contrast the work ethic that Detroit Techno artists bring to the music with whatever the hell it is that Gen P Orridge is doing. The UR building -- with the garden tools in the entrance to the record store -- is far more revolutionary. Massive fan as I am of UR (etc) that I am, I still find myself asking what the hell relevance do they have vis a vis any one else's type of self-expression? What you say about their work ethic might well be true, but it's a sterile point in the context of this topic. Ken
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
There's obviously no accounting for taste -- and I'm def. not slagging yours. I've heard a lot of Psychic TV over the years without it ever really getting under my skin. Not my cup of whatever. If you're a fan and Gen's work is meaningful to you, that's great. My first paragraph says precisely that I _don't_ think he just does things to shock. I've read through his websites, and interviews over the years, so I know he's always thought carefully about what he does, and that he's serious. But like a lot of artists I could name, I am not sold on the end product. At the end of the day, there's so much music worth a listen out there that I've given up trying to keep current on everything, and follow my nose. And I live in Iowa, USA, so I've yet to get my head into the Daily Mail. And anyway, while one should not judge a book by its cover, artists definitely limit their audience with the cover they choose for their books. On 11/29/05, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, I'll bite > > > Gen has always depended on shock to make his point, and he's made a > > few valid points along the way -- the primary one being to use any > > means necessary to resist subsumption into capitalist money making > > machine. One day, Throbbing Gristle has Parliement up in arms, the > > next, someone's trying to turn the outrage into something to make > > money from. > > If you think he's gone through what he has just to shock people, you > probably need to think it through again because it's wrong on many > levels. There's no doubt he does things to make you question things but > pure shock is more Whitehouse than G-PO... > > > > > > On the other hand, there are people out there who make art that > > doesn't need to be offensive to be affecting and relevant. Case in > > point -- the rest of the TG crew's work after TG, which remained edgey > > and wonderful without being a complete freak show. Others might > > disagree with me, but I'd be a whole lot more impressed with Gen if > > he'd stop trying to make himself into a homely middle aged tart to > > scare the citizens and really get down to cases musically. > > Classic judging the book by it's cover, get your head out of the Daily > Mail, since TG have you followed his work much? > > > > > It's especially interesting -- for the purposes of this list -- to > > contrast the work ethic that Detroit Techno artists bring to the music > > with whatever the hell it is that Gen P Orridge is doing. The UR > > building -- with the garden tools in the entrance to the record store > > -- is far more revolutionary. > > Square peg and round hole spring to mind... > > m
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
OK, I'll bite Gen has always depended on shock to make his point, and he's made a few valid points along the way -- the primary one being to use any means necessary to resist subsumption into capitalist money making machine. One day, Throbbing Gristle has Parliement up in arms, the next, someone's trying to turn the outrage into something to make money from. If you think he's gone through what he has just to shock people, you probably need to think it through again because it's wrong on many levels. There's no doubt he does things to make you question things but pure shock is more Whitehouse than G-PO... On the other hand, there are people out there who make art that doesn't need to be offensive to be affecting and relevant. Case in point -- the rest of the TG crew's work after TG, which remained edgey and wonderful without being a complete freak show. Others might disagree with me, but I'd be a whole lot more impressed with Gen if he'd stop trying to make himself into a homely middle aged tart to scare the citizens and really get down to cases musically. Classic judging the book by it's cover, get your head out of the Daily Mail, since TG have you followed his work much? It's especially interesting -- for the purposes of this list -- to contrast the work ethic that Detroit Techno artists bring to the music with whatever the hell it is that Gen P Orridge is doing. The UR building -- with the garden tools in the entrance to the record store -- is far more revolutionary. Square peg and round hole spring to mind... m On 11/28/05, darnistle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jamie Stewart wrote: Sweet feckin jesus. I didn't think p orridge could shock me any longer but that last image popped my eye. Nasty. http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/ I still find it inspiring that he has maintained all these years. The spirit lives on. Wish I could see TG live :((
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
Gen has always depended on shock to make his point, and he's made a few valid points along the way -- the primary one being to use any means necessary to resist subsumption into capitalist money making machine. One day, Throbbing Gristle has Parliement up in arms, the next, someone's trying to turn the outrage into something to make money from. On the other hand, there are people out there who make art that doesn't need to be offensive to be affecting and relevant. Case in point -- the rest of the TG crew's work after TG, which remained edgey and wonderful without being a complete freak show. Others might disagree with me, but I'd be a whole lot more impressed with Gen if he'd stop trying to make himself into a homely middle aged tart to scare the citizens and really get down to cases musically. It's especially interesting -- for the purposes of this list -- to contrast the work ethic that Detroit Techno artists bring to the music with whatever the hell it is that Gen P Orridge is doing. The UR building -- with the garden tools in the entrance to the record store -- is far more revolutionary. On 11/28/05, darnistle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jamie Stewart wrote: > > > Sweet feckin jesus. I didn't think p orridge could shock me any longer > > but that last image popped my eye. Nasty. > > http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/ > > > > I still find it inspiring that he has maintained all these years. The > spirit lives on. > > Wish I could see TG live :(( >
(313) Kraftwerk DVD
looks like its already available here? http://www.musicnonstop.co.uk/store/erol.html www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com
RE: (313) how'bout a history lesson?
That was very interesting indeed. Thanks for posting it Chris. Ken -Original Message- From: Chris O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2005 13:41 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) how'bout a history lesson? Here's a great read on the 'originators' and their connection to Chicago. http://pitchforkmedia.com/features/weekly/05-11-28-house-and-techno.shtml
Re: (313) Kraftwerk DVD
>Is this a booty? Anyone seen it? >http://www.nuloop.com/details_cd_e.php?arti=29905 yeah it will be. nope, not seen it. official one is out very soon if not already, may as well just get that. go here > http://www.kraftwerk.com/ go to "info" go to "notebook" and that gives you all the info. don't know how to link to the page properly. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Kraftwerk DVD
Is this a booty? Anyone seen it? http://www.nuloop.com/details_cd_e.php?arti=29905
(313) how'bout a history lesson?
Here's a great read on the 'originators' and their connection to Chicago. http://pitchforkmedia.com/features/weekly/05-11-28-house-and-techno.shtml
(313) Fwd: Chymera: "Everybody Dies... Even Horses" Available now on CDbaby.com
Brendan's not currently a subscribe and asked me to forward this: -- Forwarded message -- From: Chymera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All, Just writing to let you know that my debut album is finally available stateside on CDbaby at this location: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/chymera Please check it out and have a listen to the soundclips. The album was mastered by our very own Kent Williams, and he's done an absolutely stellar job. No horses were harmed during the making of this album. Regards, Bren/Chymera http://www.chymera.org PS. Here's some reviews from assorted Irish Press: --snip--CHYMERA Everybody Dies . . . Even Horses Iterate Irish electronic music producer Brendan "Chymera" Gregory has become a prolific name on the local scene via a rake of compilation credits and live supports. But while many other rising Irish producers lack the wherewithal and often confidence to take the next logical step towards a full-length album, Gregory has no such qualms about his abilities or ambitions. Everybody Dies . . . Even Horses is a wonderfully pitched, supremely assured piece of work that nips and tucks all manner of electronic shades and sounds into a highly satisfying album. Gregory is at his best when he stirs his cauldron of deep melodies, dark rhythms and intricate textures into unexpected blends. It's clear from the brooding, statuesque Moment in Time and the downtown Detroit shuffle of Chamber Zen that Gregory's future designs will also be worth examining. www.chymera.org Jim Carroll-- snip-- from the ticket, in the irish times, may 6th 2005. --snip--Chymera Everybody dies . . Even Horses Iterate Every once and a while someone appears out of nowhere and simply knocks you off your feet. Brendan Gregory AKA Chymera has, like many before him, blown me away with the quality and intensity of his debut album. Apart from a couple of heads at D1, few in Ireland are coming close to this quality and the emotional intensity of Chymera's debut. It doesn't have it all but it has most things. A clever and broad use of genre; standard 4/4 kicks, break beats and no beats; emotionally charged melody and strings; tight production and sharp programming that you would mistake for Orbital. No wonder he is upstaging Joey Beltram. Desy Balmer--snip-- from hold it down magazine, may 2005. --snip--Chymera Everybody Dies, Even Horses You've got to admire Cork producer Bren Gregoriy's initiative: instead of trying to hawk his work to a label, he set up his own imprint to release his debut album, with the result that his individualistic take on electronic music gets an audience. Fusing deep techno with breaks and electro, Bren adds some lo-fi rock flavours on the nocturnal slow motion beats of 'Empire', the grinding 'Chamber Zen' outdoes the electro house brigade with its raw sex appeal, while the bubbling melodies of the title track recall classic Orbital material. If the rest of the world tunes in, Chymera could easily become Ireland's first electronic producer to hit the big time. Eight/Ten.--snip-- from hotpress, June 2005. http://www.chymera.org
(313) On The One's N Twos
Alex Smoke - Incommunicado LP - Only takes one go to get into, wonderful stuff. Hawtin - The Tunnels - Well Berlin DHS - House Of God - Classic blast from the past Female - Bossanova rmxs - Ruskin really pulls it out of the bag here 2 AM / FM Part 1 - Tadd Mullinix & D Marc Cantu - Just brilliant Klonk - Surgeon - You can hear the new direction coming... P.O.M. Remixed - Duplex - Clone - Pure bliss Form Of Funk EP - Henry Chow - Master Plan - Rave On! Blade Runner - Jeff Mills - Axis Classics Series - Love it
RE: (313) Monday Mixtapes
Thanks, will try to get a (repressed) copy! > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: dinsdag 29 november 2005 10:29 > Aan: Matt MacQueen; 313 > Onderwerp: Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes > > it's the original virgo from 1986 with R U hot enough on, the track is > called Free Yourself. > > Top topness all the way. > > p > > Matt MacQueen wrote: > > > > > On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>> Does anyone know the name of the song of the Ron Hardy tape that > >>> starts at > >> > >> ± 9 minutes and ends at ± 11 minutes? > >> > >> it's by Virgo. > >> > >> and it's off this one I think. (don't hold me to that I get them all > >> mixed > >> up, they all look the same to me etc). > >> > >> http://www.discogs.com/release/4896 > > > > > > Or maybe it's In A Vision > > > > which is on here... http://e.discogs.com/release/2252 > > > > i get em mixed up too, both both of those 12's are essential... so > > moody chicago > > > > peace > > -- > > MM > > http://sonicsunset.com > > > > > >
Re: (313) another 313 movie?
thanks Don :) take it easy fab. - Original Message - From: "TOKOMAK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'fab.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: (313) another 313 movie? Hi Fab. It is Derrick May - Wiggin Juan's Mix as featured on e.g. Innovator Box Kind regards Don -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. November 2005 10:52 An: 313 Betreff: Re: (313) another 313 movie? what is the opening track in the .mov? - Original Message - From: "Wojtek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: (313) another 313 movie? http://urbanuniverse.tv/clips/technomecca.mov Any idea when this is coming out?
Re: (313) another 313 movie?
Hi Fab. It is Derrick May - Wiggin Juan's Mix as featured on e.g. Innovator Box Kind regards Don -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. November 2005 10:52 An: 313 Betreff: Re: (313) another 313 movie? what is the opening track in the .mov? - Original Message - From: "Wojtek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: (313) another 313 movie? > http://urbanuniverse.tv/clips/technomecca.mov > > Any idea when this is coming out? > > >
(313) (London)2nd December
=?iso-8859-1?q?s=fcd?= electronic's yuletide knees up : Live : Lawrence/Sten + Portable + djs Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:39:20 + Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Remote_Addr: 84.43.66.49 Süd Electronic's Yuletide Knees Up! Friday 2nd December Minimal & Beyond Live Lawrence ( Kompakt , Dial , Ghostly , Spectral , Ladomat , Novamute , Mute ,Bpitch Control ,Monika , Freude Am Tanzen e.t.c) Portable ( Scape , Spectral , Süd , Karat , Mutek , Context , Background , Revolver , e.t.c.) Now Have we got a goody for you ! I have been collecting Peter M. Kersten's music , under his Lawrence or Sten Guise , since dicovering , his gorgeous , albums ; "Lawrence; " and the " The Absence Of Blight " ; on his own Dial Imprint ( he runs dial with Casten Jost ) , and Ladomat . His Third album as lawrence , titled "The Night Will Last Forever" , was as equally outstanding . He hails from germany's rainy north , Hamburg . His growing reputation as one of Germanys hottest producers hasnt gone unnoticed . He has received accolades and subsequently , some remix work requests from Wighmony Brothers , Kompakt's , Wolfgang Voigt , Depeche Mode's Martin Gore e.t.c. He also receives constant airplay from the likes of Michael Mayer , Matthew Dear , Luciano , Ricardo Villalobos , Zip , Lo Soul , Omar S , Carl Craig , Theo Parrish , Akufen , Wighmony Brothers , Soul Phiction , Larry Heard , Daniel Bell , the list is endless . He will be donning his Lawrence hat , for this outing . Lawrence's Music imbues subtle microhouse rhythms with poignant, autumnal moods and demonstrates a masterful command of song construction . The overall emphasis on melancholy melodies and haunting tones lends the recording poignancy rooted in feelings of nostalgia and yearning . This is no ordinary minimal techno artist , or music . Peter M. Kersten's Music , wether he is recording as Lawrence , Sten , Lloyd , Bordeaux ; ( his ambient guitar project alongside , Carsten Jost , and others ) ; this man makes really special music , and you truly need to come and experience this special occassion , his first London performance . Lawrence is constantly in demand , to dj and play live across the globe . Holding 2 residencies at 2 of Germany's revered clubs ; The Golden Pudel Club as well as the Click Club . Click On the Links Below For His Extensive Discography As Lawrence http://www.discogs.com/artist/Lawrence Sten http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sten There is an amazing live set from Lawrence ,recorded in 2004 , on Betalounge . Check ! http://www.betalounge.com/ A Few Words On Portable Portable's live sets are truly awesome ! He gets better and better each time you hear him . Counting esteemed Artists such as Monolake , Thomas Fehlman , Ricardo Villalobos , Sutekh , Pole , Zip , Krause Duo , Ron Trent , Mike Banks , Jamal Moss , Peter Grummich e.t.c ; as fans ; his profile is about to further rocket ; with his 4th album scheduled for release on Scape next Year , as well as his double pack release , under his new Body Code guise , for legendary Detroit label , Spectral . Home to Matthew Dear , Audion , Hieroglyphic Being , Lawrence , James .T. Cotton e.t.c. His live sets have seen him perform in Japan,Germany , U.S.A. , Canada , Mexico , Bogota , Brazil , Poland , Sweden , Denmark , South Africa , e.t.c. Portable is so mindblowing live , and easily one of the best live artists around , at the minute . Dj's Support Will Come From Lakuti( Süd ) Nick Craddock ( nickcraddock.co.uk) Marco Shuttle ( Guarilla Lime & Soda ) Fail Hdj ( Failme.net ) Visuals by Timon : Go To www.botezco.com to view his awesome work ! Date : 2nd December 2005 Time : 10 pm - 7a.m. Door Charge : £8 slightly more than usual , but unfortunately our costs for this one are really high ! . No Advanced Tickets necessary for this one , but pre book yor names on the paying guestlist to guarantee entry , incase we are full . email your names to [EMAIL PROTECTED] infoline 07931 248 733 Venue : 54 Commercial Street , London E16LT , Below Jawani Restuarant A venue with a 24 hour License . Click the Link Below For A Map www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=51.5183&lon=-0.0743&scale=5000&icon=x Nearest Tube : Aldgate East , Liverpool street tube I hope to see all of you , out and partying with us ! Trust me , this is gonna be rather special ! . Love to all of you ! Lerato/lakuti & Alan
Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes
not sur what u mean by pinkish labelanyway 2 problems crop up here. 1, it is a very good record, therefore not many people wanna sell it 2, finding an original without sounding like it was pressed on a digestive biscuit is hard. It should be findable.. i reckon 20 - 25 squid is roughly what ur looking at for a decent orig copy... i've found that the orange or black labels were better pressings, alot of red ones were fooked, but its just a case of playing em or listening before u purchase... you could pick up a repress, i know it was repressed but maybe these r scarce too, i dunno p Odeluga, Ken wrote: Placid old chap, whilst we're on this subject, do you know just how rare that Virgo 12" is? The one with the pink(ish) label, I mean? Is it nigh impossible to find now, or is it just expensive? (I could do my own research but why bother when we've got out own resident expert?! ;-) Cheers, Ken -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2005 09:29 To: Matt MacQueen; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes it's the original virgo from 1986 with R U hot enough on, the track is called Free Yourself. Top topness all the way. p Matt MacQueen wrote: On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the name of the song of the Ron Hardy tape that starts at ± 9 minutes and ends at ± 11 minutes? it's by Virgo. and it's off this one I think. (don't hold me to that I get them all mixed up, they all look the same to me etc). http://www.discogs.com/release/4896 Or maybe it's In A Vision which is on here... http://e.discogs.com/release/2252 i get em mixed up too, both both of those 12's are essential... so moody chicago peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
(313) UR interview
CH = Cornelius Harris aka Atlantis & MM = Mad Mike aka 038 Underground Resistance questions for Liverpool University Student Paper / www.plasticsoup.com by Jimmy Coultas It’s really good to see the UR live show back on the road, and it’s fitting that you’re playing at Voodoo, which has been knee-deep in bringing techno to Liverpool since 1993. Are you excited about the gig and what can we expect? A) (CH) We very much admire Voodoo for bringing us. Respect has to be given when people will not make a profit to do something they believe in! We are a big band and its NEVER cost effective to bring us! We are performing as Galaxy 2 Galaxy and Los Hermanos. Galaxy was a group that dealt with an experimental form of music that was invented by Mad Mike in 1993 called "Hi-tech Jazz" over the years many songs have been released under this style by UR. Galaxy will perform these genre defining tracks which have all been compiled on our soon to be released album entitled "Hi Tech Jazz". Los Hermanos was an electronic re-incarnation of the great Afro-Latin groups like War & Santana. So it will be playing selections from the recently released album "On Another Level" The group features keyboardists Geraldo Mitchell and Esteban Adame' and DJ S2 a.k.a Santiago Salazar. Who or what is exciting you musically these days? And what artists A) (MM) There's a style of music going down in Detroit at the roller skating rinks called "Slide" that shit is banging its some weird shit I've never heard anything like it! Dj Skurge, Dj Scant , S2, B. Calloway, Dj Dijital, Nomadico, Earl McKinney, Fingers and Maroon are some of the guys making it or playing it. Outside of the electronic sphere who are showing the way forward? A) (MM) Alicia Keys .she's unbreakable. Lola Valley an all girl rock group outta Detroit and the 620 soldiers also from Detroit. Has your vision changed from the 'message to the majors' you dedicated to Malice Green to the recent 'transition' which seems to be more positive in outlook? A) (MM) That was one record done as a result of a specific situation. Whereas both "Transition" and "Aguila" were done as an effort to help listeners thru tuff times when ones spirit may be weak. Releases 038 & 043 were coded directives to the swarm necessary movements to protect the hive. Our recordings can sometimes be reflections of necessity, imagination, environment, emotion or soundtrax to events which are far from positive. Militancy is obviously a pretty big aspect of your philosophy, and it’s the discipline that has ploughed your music worldwide since the nineties. In an industry dominated by hedonism and excess, do you feel that many talents have been wasted simply because they’ve not been dedicated enough? A) (CH) Militancy is a tag placed on us by fear. Some people enjoy fear or the thought of something dangerous. It is the source of many ghost stories, stereotypes and even record sales. For our purposes this weakness allows us to work in peace thus helping to keep our focus. Some artists don't have this luxury and eventually their success consumes them as they lose focus due to the success. With us the more successfull we become the darker we get. And fortunately people fear the "DARK". The influences within techno have been cyclical over the years, with a colder European aesthetic clashing with the soul-infused sound of Detoit. On a very simplistic note it could be argued that these are the influences of black culture against the white sound of Europe, but that’d be missing the point. How important do you think Techno has been in giving young black America a voice? A) (MM) strange you mention something in your mind then dismiss it. Our people have only had consistently music as a voice. Whether it was Field Work songs, or coded shit like "Wading in the Water", whether it was John Lee Hooker, Jimi Hendrix, Marvin Gay or Public Enemy music has been one of our few tools to access mainstream media with in the USA. Other than that we have no consistent voice that should be obvious look at Hurricane Katrina. If she hadn't have come the world would have never known. Do you think Detroit can sustain its legacy of electronic pioneers? A) Yes at UR we have an electronic music boot camp full of enviromentally evolved young sonic mutants learning how to turn their experiences, cultures and ideas into vinyl reality. And as long technology evolves the sound it makes possible will to as will the artists who sequence those possibilities into music. Technology has always given us a voice. Whilst artists such as Omar S have come through recently, other luminaries such as Recloose who had close links with the city have shifted away from techno. Do you think this is a growing phenomenon? A) (MM) I think that's a matter of talent and musical exploration. There’s a saying that goes along the lines of madness and genius being pretty much intertwined, and a look back at people like George Clinton, Brian Wilson,
RE: (313) Monday Mixtapes
Paul, Alex, Marsel: thanks chaps. Oh Paul, I'm colour blind. Ken -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2005 10:00 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes not sur what u mean by pinkish labelanyway 2 problems crop up here. 1, it is a very good record, therefore not many people wanna sell it 2, finding an original without sounding like it was pressed on a digestive biscuit is hard. It should be findable.. i reckon 20 - 25 squid is roughly what ur looking at for a decent orig copy... i've found that the orange or black labels were better pressings, alot of red ones were fooked, but its just a case of playing em or listening before u purchase... you could pick up a repress, i know it was repressed but maybe these r scarce too, i dunno p Odeluga, Ken wrote: >Placid old chap, whilst we're on this subject, do you know just how rare that >Virgo 12" is? The one with the pink(ish) label, I mean? > >Is it nigh impossible to find now, or is it just expensive? > >(I could do my own research but why bother when we've got out own resident >expert?! ;-) > >Cheers, > >Ken > > >-Original Message- >From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 29 November 2005 09:29 >To: Matt MacQueen; 313 >Subject: Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes > >it's the original virgo from 1986 with R U hot enough on, the track is >called Free Yourself. > >Top topness all the way. > >p > >Matt MacQueen wrote: > > > >>On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> Does anyone know the name of the song of the Ron Hardy tape that starts at >>>± 9 minutes and ends at ± 11 minutes? >>> >>>it's by Virgo. >>> >>>and it's off this one I think. (don't hold me to that I get them all >>>mixed >>>up, they all look the same to me etc). >>> >>>http://www.discogs.com/release/4896 >>> >>> >>Or maybe it's In A Vision >> >>which is on here... http://e.discogs.com/release/2252 >> >>i get em mixed up too, both both of those 12's are essential... so >>moody chicago >> >>peace >>-- >>MM >>http://sonicsunset.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
RE: (313) Monday Mixtapes
>Is it nigh impossible to find now, or is it just expensive? you can get represses. (at std price) originals don't cost that much. 15 for a red label ish. maybe a bit more for black label. dunno which is original mine are on black labels. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) another 313 movie?
what is the opening track in the .mov? - Original Message - From: "Wojtek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: (313) another 313 movie? http://urbanuniverse.tv/clips/technomecca.mov Any idea when this is coming out?
RE: (313) Monday Mixtapes
Placid old chap, whilst we're on this subject, do you know just how rare that Virgo 12" is? The one with the pink(ish) label, I mean? Is it nigh impossible to find now, or is it just expensive? (I could do my own research but why bother when we've got out own resident expert?! ;-) Cheers, Ken -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2005 09:29 To: Matt MacQueen; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes it's the original virgo from 1986 with R U hot enough on, the track is called Free Yourself. Top topness all the way. p Matt MacQueen wrote: > > On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Does anyone know the name of the song of the Ron Hardy tape that >>> starts at >> >> ± 9 minutes and ends at ± 11 minutes? >> >> it's by Virgo. >> >> and it's off this one I think. (don't hold me to that I get them all >> mixed >> up, they all look the same to me etc). >> >> http://www.discogs.com/release/4896 > > > Or maybe it's In A Vision > > which is on here... http://e.discogs.com/release/2252 > > i get em mixed up too, both both of those 12's are essential... so > moody chicago > > peace > -- > MM > http://sonicsunset.com > > >
Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes
it's the original virgo from 1986 with R U hot enough on, the track is called Free Yourself. Top topness all the way. p Matt MacQueen wrote: On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the name of the song of the Ron Hardy tape that starts at ± 9 minutes and ends at ± 11 minutes? it's by Virgo. and it's off this one I think. (don't hold me to that I get them all mixed up, they all look the same to me etc). http://www.discogs.com/release/4896 Or maybe it's In A Vision which is on here... http://e.discogs.com/release/2252 i get em mixed up too, both both of those 12's are essential... so moody chicago peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
They play Barcelona in March :) On 29 Nov 2005, at 03:12, darnistle wrote: Jamie Stewart wrote: Sweet feckin jesus. I didn't think p orridge could shock me any longer but that last image popped my eye. Nasty. http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/ I still find it inspiring that he has maintained all these years. The spirit lives on. Wish I could see TG live :((
Re: (313) Heaven 17
What do you mean? That cover of Let's Stay Together was great. -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Blaauw, Martijn de " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org>, "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: (313) Heaven 17 >Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 2:55 AM > > > > > >>and re-launching Tina Turner's career > > eeew, I guess we can forgive them for that > > MEK > > > > "Blaauw, Martijn > de " >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Odeluga, Ken" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 11/24/05 02:13 AM cc >"313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject >RE: (313) Heaven 17 > > > > > > > > > > > Heaven 17: > Out on September 26th is "Before After", the newest album from Heaven 17 > and their first in over 9 years. Announced since the year 2001, "Before > After" offers Heaven 17 in old quality: pop melody, disco beats, warmth, > exquisite design, soul and electro-funk. Fronted by Glenn Gregory, the > band also holds Martyn Ware and Ian Craig Marsh as members who both have > pioneered British synthesizer pop through The Future, The Human League > and Heaven 17 itself. They are responsible for two of the UK's greatest > electro singles: "Being Boiled" and "(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove > Thing" and elevated the role of producers to the level of artist in the > 1980s with Terence Trent D'Arby and re-launching Tina Turner's career. > In recent years Martyn Ware has recorded music with Vince Clarke, Ian > Craig Marsh has been involved with soundtrack work while Glenn Gregory's > ambient pop group Honeyroot caught the public's attention with their > version of Joy Division's "Love Will Tear Us Apart". > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: donderdag 24 november 2005 09:01 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: 313 Org > Onderwerp: RE: (313) Heaven 17 > > > > Really? My all-time favourite, 303-toting, Earth Wind & Fire Horn > section-hiring, card-carrying communist, funkiest blue-eyed Yorkshiremen > in town - are back!?!? :-) > > > -Original Message- > From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 November 2005 22:23 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313 Org > Subject: Re: (313) Heaven 17 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> >>eh? What? B.E.F. is working together again? Could that mean some more >>scathing political electronic music disguised as pop music? >> >>MEK >> >> >> >> > Yup - they've reinstated the British Electrical Foundation business > operations and Heaven 17 have a new record out already. > I believe they are playing next week (The Scala?) in London.' > > > > > jeff > > >
Re: (313) Throbbing Gristle Live in Berlin
Jamie Stewart wrote: Sweet feckin jesus. I didn't think p orridge could shock me any longer but that last image popped my eye. Nasty. http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/ I still find it inspiring that he has maintained all these years. The spirit lives on. Wish I could see TG live :((
Re: (313) Goings-on in Philadelpha? (OT)
Hmmm
Record Stores:
(both on South St. & 4th)
611 ('tis ok, some good 'f00k trance' shirts
cue records (no techno really, just a lot of hip hop
and older things, people are a lot more friend than
611 IMHO, I've gotten some great old electro there)
philadelphia jazz/record exchange- i believe this is
on 5 & South
AKA Music really great used section of CDs, records, a
good selection over all- Second and Market
To do:
Next Friday is First Friday. This is when all the
galleries in Philly stay open late and most serve free
food, cheap wine, and people brouse the galleries.
This all happens in Olde City, stick around Market to
Race in between 2 to 5th. Check out the Lineage
Gallery on 2nd near Market, they have some great
stuff- they did a Ron English and Sam Flores show and
they just hosted a tour of Dr.Suess original
artwork/sculptures.(you'll find AKA just a few doors
down)
Grab a Philadelphia Weekly and City Paper for
happenings. There's lots of good pubs in philly and
lots of bad, big clubs just like any other city. If
you want to see some great neighborhoods I suggest a
walk between 14th to 23rd around walnut to south- old
and beautiful row homes and narrow, stone streets that
make Philly...well Philly. If you're looking for the
"Urban Outfitters-Brooklyn" end of things check out
Northern Liberties. It's far from the center of
things, but has some good pubs and places to eat (I
suggest Azure).
To be a scenester stop by The Continental and grab a
Buzz Aldrige (sp) martini- it's made with Tang with
you're on olde city enjoying 1st friday.
To eat...depends on where you are staying, there are
lots of good places to eat around the city, Morimoto
has a Japanese joint with AMAzing sushi, and there's
lots of little places here and there-Email with your
likings and we can get into specifics. Most of the
places everyone tells you to get cheesesteaks- they
arent the really good places to get them...just
tourist traps.
Pharmacia is good, it's all organic farm food and it's
on 3rd and Market- not too mention their barista is
amazingly wonderful (and not just because he's my
boyfriend:)).
Philadephia is a big grid, it's hard to get lost.
Museums your liking? check out the infamous Body Works
show going on at the Franklin Institute. On Sundays
the Philadelphia Art Museum has 'pay as you wish'
until 3 and a pretty amazing collection of Asian and
European art.
Hope this helps...everyone!
d
--- Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will be in the "City of Brotherly Love" this
> weekend, wondering if
> anyone has recommendations on any events that may be
> happening
> Saturday evening? Also, the normal tips...record
> shops, cool areas of
> the city, good hotels to check out?
>
> Any info is appreciated!
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Adam
>
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Re: (313) Monday Mixtapes
On Nov 28, 2005, at 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the name of the song of the Ron Hardy tape that starts at ± 9 minutes and ends at ± 11 minutes? it's by Virgo. and it's off this one I think. (don't hold me to that I get them all mixed up, they all look the same to me etc). http://www.discogs.com/release/4896 Or maybe it's In A Vision which is on here... http://e.discogs.com/release/2252 i get em mixed up too, both both of those 12's are essential... so moody chicago peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
