Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Kent Williams wrote: Um, it seems to me that A) Coldplay is a pop band, and by no means as egregious an example of the species as can readily found on offer. B) They asked permission, to use a short quote from a Kraftwerk song. They didn't just bite. C) Kraftwerk themselves are relentlessly commercial. D) As much as we're all in their debt, from all reports the KW guys are kind of jerks, and rich jerks besides, who've gotten more mileage off fewer ideas in the past few years than anyone this side of George W Bush. and E) Internet outrage is the most devalued currency in the known universe. PS I don't really mind if KW are jerks. Wagner used to kick his dog. Good points all, Kent. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
If her name's Apple, are ya sure it's after the computer, and not the Beatles' label? Rock'n'roll really *ain't* much different than it ~used~ to be. http://residents.com/bh/images/THIRDBOX440_000.jpg seek - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken
Re: (313) substance abuse at the olympics
- Original Message - From: "marc" Sorry if the point of my post wasn't immediately clear. I was trying to make a joke about Canadian broadcasting propping up "Canadian content", and the nasty side of nationalism. Oh well. Back to your regularly scheduled nonsense. -m Would you prefer the American Olympics broadcast and all of *that* nasty nationalism? O, Canada: thank goodness for you! seek
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
No way. Pics, please. seek - Original Message - From: "Kent Williams" Wagner used to kick his dog.
Re: (313) No-play and N0-werk
On 13 Feb 2006, at 15:43, fab. wrote: ok ok, but thats an appleI! It was an Apple computer before it became a brand tho, the brand came much later :) fab, one-time owner of an apple IIc clone Still got a Classic, no idea why tho - still looks kinda cute m - Original Message - From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Wrong, wrong, so wrong but to bring it back on topic, I can fix you up: http://www.apple-history.com/images/models/I.gif First Apple... :) On 13 Feb 2006, at 15:37, fab. wrote: im sorry to butt in guys but apple is not a computer, but rather a brand *removes spectacles* fab - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... I at first was thinking something like Tandy.. or trash-80. ;) On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 437 Washington Street, NY, NY 10013 // connecting the space between + within.
RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
For a second I thought maybe he had named his daughter Moog. :D MEK "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com> To "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/13/06 09:31 AM cc <313@hyperreal.org> Subject RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
ok ok, but thats an appleI! fab, one-time owner of an apple IIc clone - Original Message - From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Wrong, wrong, so wrong but to bring it back on topic, I can fix you up: http://www.apple-history.com/images/models/I.gif First Apple... :) On 13 Feb 2006, at 15:37, fab. wrote: im sorry to butt in guys but apple is not a computer, but rather a brand *removes spectacles* fab - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006
RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk .... and Theo Parrish for a change
... puts on specs, actually strictly speaking it's the name of a corporation which makes computers, which, like a certain well-known vacuum cleaner, have come to be named after the manufacturer. Apropos 313 and Apple: np on iPod: Theo Parrish, 'Falling Up (Carl Craig Remix.)' By the way, notice how 'Dreamers Blues (In The Thick Mix)' on the 'Levels' EP, uses virtually the same chord changes as both versions of 'Falling Up'? Ken -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 15:37 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk im sorry to butt in guys but apple is not a computer, but rather a brand *removes spectacles* fab - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Wrong, wrong, so wrong but to bring it back on topic, I can fix you up: http://www.apple-history.com/images/models/I.gif First Apple... :) On 13 Feb 2006, at 15:37, fab. wrote: im sorry to butt in guys but apple is not a computer, but rather a brand *removes spectacles* fab - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... I at first was thinking something like Tandy.. or trash-80. ;) +odd -- On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 437 Washington Street, NY, NY 10013 // connecting the space between + within.
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
im sorry to butt in guys but apple is not a computer, but rather a brand *removes spectacles* fab - Original Message - From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/258 - Release Date: 13/02/2006
(313) LA bound 15 Feb - 01 March
FYI will be in LA from 15 Feb - 01 March anyone organizing any techno / house parties then? [I'm bringing some records + a laptop, hint hint] we're doing a short film shoot and I'm getting my studio hustle on for my motion / visual effects work. holla! +odd -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 437 Washington Street, NY, NY 10013 // connecting the space between + within.
RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
-Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m Still Martin, Apple is not exactly 'Dweezil' or 'Moon Unit' is it?!? Rock 'n' Roll ain't what it used to be... Ken
(313) This Week : BROKER/DEALER and TWINE : Ann Arbor/Lansing
Hello friends This week offers some very special shows from the Ghostly / Spectral family: First off, San Francisco's Broker/Dealer will be celebrating Valentine's Day with us at Goodnight Gracie in Ann Arbor tomorrow night, with a show in Lansing to follow on Wednesday. Details: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 AARNIO and Friends, featuring BROKER/DEALER Ann Arbor @ Goodnite Gracie 10pm, FREE, 21+ Wednesday, February 15, 2006 Spectral Sound presents BROKER/DEALER with Josh Toigon and Theo Lansing @ Mac's Bar 10pm, $5, 21+ See/hear more at http://www.ghostly.com/1.0/artists/brokerdealer/index.shtml ** ALSO THIS WEEK, avant-garde ambient masters TWINE will be supporting composer Louis Andriessen in a show at Ann Arbor's Power Center. Details: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 UMS presents LOUIS ANDRIESSEN IN CONCERT With soundscapes by TWINE and DJ support from Aarnio Ann Arbor @ Power Center 8pm, All Ages Tickets : http://www.ums.org/tickets/index.htm More information : http://www.ums.org/secondary/season/artist/artistpage.asp?pageid=303 ** Thank you for your attention. We hope to see you soon. Ghostly International : Of Art and Artifice Since 1999.
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Um, it seems to me that A) Coldplay is a pop band, and by no means as egregious an example of the species as can readily found on offer. B) They asked permission, to use a short quote from a Kraftwerk song. They didn't just bite. C) Kraftwerk themselves are relentlessly commercial. D) As much as we're all in their debt, from all reports the KW guys are kind of jerks, and rich jerks besides, who've gotten more mileage off fewer ideas in the past few years than anyone this side of George W Bush. and E) Internet outrage is the most devalued currency in the known universe. PS I don't really mind if KW are jerks. Wagner used to kick his dog.
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Didn't the drummer from coldplay played keys on one Super-A-Loof tracks? Or was it the manager from Coldplay? On 13-feb-2006, at 12:19, robin wrote: he had some input from what i've heard. "co-produce" is probably going a bit far in the description. robin... Robert Taylor wrote: Didn't he also co-produce one of the tracks on the Electric Institute?
RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Co-produced Carl Cox/James Lavelle (or day I say it D* M**) stylee -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 11:19 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk he had some input from what i've heard. "co-produce" is probably going a bit far in the description. robin... Robert Taylor wrote: > Didn't he also co-produce one of the tracks on the Electric Institute? > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
he had some input from what i've heard. "co-produce" is probably going a bit far in the description. robin... Robert Taylor wrote: Didn't he also co-produce one of the tracks on the Electric Institute?
RE: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Didn't he also co-produce one of the tracks on the Electric Institute? -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 09:19 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m On 12 Feb 2006, at 23:53, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > On 2/12/06, theREALmxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Compatibility isn't always about similarity. > > well for me, on the musical tip, its gotta be. i cant tolerate bad > music. not even for a couple minutes, not to mention the rest of my > life. music is pretty much the only thing i care about outside of my > family, and i really prefer my music to be a family endeavor. my > fiancee and sister went with me to detroit last year for the festival > and it was great. when my son is old enough, he'll come too. its a > family thing! > > tom > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
Not a fan of Coldplay but you've got to give the guy credit, he did at the very least name his daughter after the best computer in the world... m On 12 Feb 2006, at 23:53, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/12/06, theREALmxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Compatibility isn't always about similarity. well for me, on the musical tip, its gotta be. i cant tolerate bad music. not even for a couple minutes, not to mention the rest of my life. music is pretty much the only thing i care about outside of my family, and i really prefer my music to be a family endeavor. my fiancee and sister went with me to detroit last year for the festival and it was great. when my son is old enough, he'll come too. its a family thing! tom
Re: (313) substance abuse at the olympics
Sorry if the point of my post wasn't immediately clear. I was trying to make a joke about Canadian broadcasting propping up "Canadian content", and the nasty side of nationalism. Oh well. Back to your regularly scheduled nonsense. -m atomly & Garrett wrote: i'm left wondering if what we saw on US television was edited. first it was the music that is on the m-nus site now (presumably "9:20") and then suddenly it was substance abuse.. I watched it from Berlin and that's how it was too. Canadian Broadcasting all but dubbed "overdose" back over the top of it Oh, wait, i'm confusing an Olympic overdose with actual lyrics. sorry. -marc
Re: (313) substance abuse at the olympics
atomly & Garrett wrote: i'm left wondering if what we saw on US television was edited. first it was the music that is on the m-nus site now (presumably "9:20") and then suddenly it was substance abuse.. I watched it from Berlin and that's how it was too. Canadian Broadcasting all but dubbed "overdose" back over the top of it Oh, wait, i'm confusing an Olympic overdose with actual lyrics. sorry. -marc
Re: (313) coldplay / kraftwerk
I presume we are talking about Coldplay - Talk ? I really like the Francois K Dub. Very very good reinterpretation with minimal vocal interruptions. Regards, Ramon Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks wrote: Philip wrote: coldplay & kraftwerk are both on emi and yes it was authorised etc. i'm not much of a coldplay fan, apart from 'don't ask' (obvious i know, but a really pretty song with lovely guitars) but i was kind of stunned at how clumsy their interpretation of the melody from 'computer love' is. it just sounds wrong, too complex and convoluted in the context they use it in. perhaps it would have been better to use a shorter part and not to try & force it where it doesn't really fit. whatever. philski Listening to this right now: http://www.partyben123.com/PartyBen-ComputerTalk.mp3 (a mashup of the two that weaves the two together quite well) Andrew
Re: (313) coldplay / kraftwerk
Philip wrote: coldplay & kraftwerk are both on emi and yes it was authorised etc. i'm not much of a coldplay fan, apart from 'don't ask' (obvious i know, but a really pretty song with lovely guitars) but i was kind of stunned at how clumsy their interpretation of the melody from 'computer love' is. it just sounds wrong, too complex and convoluted in the context they use it in. perhaps it would have been better to use a shorter part and not to try & force it where it doesn't really fit. whatever. philski Listening to this right now: http://www.partyben123.com/PartyBen-ComputerTalk.mp3 (a mashup of the two that weaves the two together quite well) Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
(313) coldplay / kraftwerk
coldplay & kraftwerk are both on emi and yes it was authorised etc. i'm not much of a coldplay fan, apart from 'don't ask' (obvious i know, but a really pretty song with lovely guitars) but i was kind of stunned at how clumsy their interpretation of the melody from 'computer love' is. it just sounds wrong, too complex and convoluted in the context they use it in. perhaps it would have been better to use a shorter part and not to try & force it where it doesn't really fit. whatever. philski
(313) Re: [ok] Re: (313) coldplay and kraftwerk
I hate to break it to you, LKS, but Coldplay is even featured at Starbucks these days :) Fred - >Anyway, it's good to know I'm not...is daft the word? I figured that >someone'd discussed it here and I missed it. Like I'd have known who >the hell Coldplay was before the Grammy's anyway. > > >peace >lks > >
