(313) Electronic Video Art
This is a pretty sweet surreal video. < http://ny.beam.tv/beamreels/reel_player.php?reel=PdnyzcDdVK&reel_file=wKWdtCShjv&fs=1>
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout --- more like Live / mastering / blah blah blah
On 31 Jan 2007, at 18:45, Todd Sines wrote: well, the compilations mastered were then loaded in and checked at the pressing plant before going to GMCD. but yeah, that's basically it. Crikey this wasn't the case for the Fabric mix. Did they send it away to have all the good bits taken out? ;) m
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout --- more like Live / mastering / blah blah blah
well, the compilations mastered were then loaded in and checked at the pressing plant before going to GMCD. but yeah, that's basically it. this wasn't the case for the Fabric mix. +odd -- Martin Dust wrote: On 31 Jan 2007, at 16:42, Todd Sines wrote: I use unstretched WAVs + AIFs, so it never gets run through Live's Warping engine. It's basically working as a VST / AU wrapper. I could be doing it with Peak or Sound Forge but I don't. A lot easier to keep track of 20 songs on a compilation CD by copying effects settings to each track, isolating and rendering that track separately for mastering. I've had enough history with audio [20 years] to know whether or not something is getting mangled by Live, and so far.. it hasn't. Otherwise I'd tell Robert. I will raise the issue with him so that they are aware of it... if they already don't know [doubt that]. Listen to the Death in Vegas Fabric mix and tell me if it sounds like it was run out of Live. Everything was recorded via a Presonus Firestation and back. Same with my Frankie EP.. final output was from Live [after importing recorded tracks from Logic / outboard gear]. When you say master, do you mean you use the file rendered out of Live to make a PMCD to cut the glass master from? m -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout --- more like Live / mastering / blah blah blah
On 31 Jan 2007, at 16:42, Todd Sines wrote: I use unstretched WAVs + AIFs, so it never gets run through Live's Warping engine. It's basically working as a VST / AU wrapper. I could be doing it with Peak or Sound Forge but I don't. A lot easier to keep track of 20 songs on a compilation CD by copying effects settings to each track, isolating and rendering that track separately for mastering. I've had enough history with audio [20 years] to know whether or not something is getting mangled by Live, and so far.. it hasn't. Otherwise I'd tell Robert. I will raise the issue with him so that they are aware of it... if they already don't know [doubt that]. Listen to the Death in Vegas Fabric mix and tell me if it sounds like it was run out of Live. Everything was recorded via a Presonus Firestation and back. Same with my Frankie EP.. final output was from Live [after importing recorded tracks from Logic / outboard gear]. When you say master, do you mean you use the file rendered out of Live to make a PMCD to cut the glass master from? m
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
On 1/31/07, punkdISCO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sometimes its technical, sometimes its just "here are 3 clips from A, B and C". well a technical comparison is really all that matters. either something is exactly the same digitally or its not. whatever the limitations of your ears are is irrelevent. Well that's good as the results are always the same: "they are indistinguishable". i bet theyre all distinguishable from cassette tape! tom
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
Hi Tom "how are they compared? it seems like RMSE (root mean square error) would compare them well, and even a small difference can amount to great error" Sometimes its technical, sometimes its just "here are 3 clips from A, B and C". "i personally dont care which is better, so all im interested in is the testing process.." Well that's good as the results are always the same: "they are indistinguishable". :-) Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk www.punkdisco.co.uk/Music/Wot.mp3 - New annoying track www.myspace.com/punkdisco - Zero content, more pictures
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
"lol, Live is absolutely inappropriate for mastering tracks." It might not be the normal choice but there are no reasons why it can't be used. "Unless you are using unstretched WAVs, your output from live is going to sound degraded." For sure. ANY stretching algorithms will have an effect of the original material. Btw, I used to always turn Warping off in Live unless I was actually warping the track; I assumed that just having warping activated would immediately effect the audio. However, this is not necessary - you can leave warping on without actually putting the audio through the time stretching engine. Live is actually clever enough to only use the stretching engine when necessary. So, unless you are changing the tempo or moving the warp markers, there will be no quality loss even with Warping turned on. Pretty cool really.. PS: I still turn warping off unless I need it :-) Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk www.punkdisco.co.uk/Music/Wot.mp3 - New annoying track www.myspace.com/punkdisco - Zero content, more pictures
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
in the multiple "studies" i've read, they're typically compared by phase inverting one of the tracks and mixing them. in every case that i've read about, they've summed to silence, which means the tracks are identical. i actually feel like i can hear what Martin's talking about, so I keep looking for the reason, myself (I'd love to avoid rewiring all my tracks through Logic, because that basically means I'll have to buy a new computer to finish my current batch of tracks). thinking through the math, it seems that the difference would either be a loss of detail through the summing algorithm, or a difference in frequency response. the latter seems really unlikely. don't know about the former. they say its 32bit float but there could be something weird going on there. i know this is ot, but if any heads on here actually know some science about this, i'd love to hear it. --- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/31/07, punkdISCO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > 1) WAV file imported into DAW_A > > 2) WAV then processed using some hi end pluggin > > 3) track bounced to a new WAV > > > > This is repeated in Live and other DAWs and then > the bounced versions are > > compared. > > how are they compared? it seems like RMSE (root mean > square error) > would compare them well, and even a small difference > can amount to > great error %... > > i personally dont care which is better, so all im > interested in is the > testing process.. > > tom >
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
On 1/31/07, punkdISCO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) WAV file imported into DAW_A 2) WAV then processed using some hi end pluggin 3) track bounced to a new WAV This is repeated in Live and other DAWs and then the bounced versions are compared. how are they compared? it seems like RMSE (root mean square error) would compare them well, and even a small difference can amount to great error %... i personally dont care which is better, so all im interested in is the testing process.. tom
Re: (313) Satellite Records
Well, all their retail stores were sold off, and then I stopped paying attention. On Jan 31, 2007, at 11:38, Thor Teague wrote: Apologies if this topic has been covered. Anyone know what the deal is with satelliterecords.com lately? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout --- more like Live / mastering / blah blah blah
I use unstretched WAVs + AIFs, so it never gets run through Live's Warping engine. It's basically working as a VST / AU wrapper. I could be doing it with Peak or Sound Forge but I don't. A lot easier to keep track of 20 songs on a compilation CD by copying effects settings to each track, isolating and rendering that track separately for mastering. I've had enough history with audio [20 years] to know whether or not something is getting mangled by Live, and so far.. it hasn't. Otherwise I'd tell Robert. I will raise the issue with him so that they are aware of it... if they already don't know [doubt that]. Listen to the Death in Vegas Fabric mix and tell me if it sounds like it was run out of Live. Everything was recorded via a Presonus Firestation and back. Same with my Frankie EP.. final output was from Live [after importing recorded tracks from Logic / outboard gear]. +odd -- /0 wrote: lol, Live is absolutely inappropriate for mastering tracks. Unless you are using unstretched WAVs, your output from live is going to sound degraded. - Original Message - From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "punkdISCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout On 31 Jan 2007, at 15:18, punkdISCO wrote: "You pre-master in Live? Crikey the sound engine in their makes things sound as flat as a pancake...Off with your ears ;)" This one comes up all the time despite the numerous tests that people have setup over the years. The fact is that the internal sound engine in Live is no less superior to any other major DAW - they are all good and almost (if not totally) indistinguishable from each other. Disagree, I can hear the difference in our studio - it's massive enough for anyone to spot, which is why we wire Live through a desk before the sound goes anywhere but I'd never use it to master anything in a million years. Each to their own I guess... m -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
(313) Satellite Records
Apologies if this topic has been covered. Anyone know what the deal is with satelliterecords.com lately?
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
lol, Live is absolutely inappropriate for mastering tracks. Unless you are using unstretched WAVs, your output from live is going to sound degraded. - Original Message - From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "punkdISCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout On 31 Jan 2007, at 15:18, punkdISCO wrote: "You pre-master in Live? Crikey the sound engine in their makes things sound as flat as a pancake...Off with your ears ;)" This one comes up all the time despite the numerous tests that people have setup over the years. The fact is that the internal sound engine in Live is no less superior to any other major DAW - they are all good and almost (if not totally) indistinguishable from each other. Disagree, I can hear the difference in our studio - it's massive enough for anyone to spot, which is why we wire Live through a desk before the sound goes anywhere but I'd never use it to master anything in a million years. Each to their own I guess... m
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
Hi again "Disagree, I can hear the difference in our studio - it's massive enough for anyone to spot, which is why we wire Live through a desk before the sound goes anywhere but I'd never use it to master anything in a million years. Each to their own I guess..." It is interesting that you say anyone can spot this - it must be very noticeable. It would be interesting to know the details of your tests and setups.?? The published tests that I have seen are always along these lines: 1) WAV file imported into DAW_A 2) WAV then processed using some hi end pluggin 3) track bounced to a new WAV This is repeated in Live and other DAWs and then the bounced versions are compared. There are numerous variations on this test on the net and as far as Im aware; no one has found any differences. The tests also exist for say, Cubase/Pro Tools etc etc. Their conclusions are always the same: Modern professional DAW packages are so advanced now that sound quality considerations can be forgotten about. But still, would be interesting to find some tests that go against this. I'll take a sniff around later Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk www.punkdisco.co.uk/Music/Wot.mp3 - New annoying track www.myspace.com/punkdisco - Zero content, more pictures
Re: (313) London happenings
Hooray. I've got it in writing - I'm not banned!!! On 31/01/07, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've been to one and thought it was ace. I was legless though, so I may be barred now :-( No way. More likely to get barred for being too sober.
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
On 31 Jan 2007, at 15:18, punkdISCO wrote: "You pre-master in Live? Crikey the sound engine in their makes things sound as flat as a pancake...Off with your ears ;)" This one comes up all the time despite the numerous tests that people have setup over the years. The fact is that the internal sound engine in Live is no less superior to any other major DAW - they are all good and almost (if not totally) indistinguishable from each other. Disagree, I can hear the difference in our studio - it's massive enough for anyone to spot, which is why we wire Live through a desk before the sound goes anywhere but I'd never use it to master anything in a million years. Each to their own I guess... m
RE: (313) London happenings
>I've been to one and thought it was ace. I was legless though, so I may be barred now :-( No way. More likely to get barred for being too sober.
Re: (313) London happenings
> I live in the UK (not London though), but was on a trip home from > working in Canada at the time... my theory still stands ;-) MEK "Nick Hardie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/31/2007 09:20:56 AM: > I've been to one and thought it was ace. I was legless though, so I > may be barred now :-( > > I live in the UK (not London though), but was on a trip home from > working in Canada at the time... > > On 31/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm beginning to think that not a soul living outside of London or the UK > > has been to a Bleep party. > > It's always "too bad you can't stay a little longer..." with you lot innit? > > ;-) > > > > MEK > > > > "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/31/2007 05:51:34 AM: > > > > > You will just miss our Convextion and Surgeon party on the 9th Martijn. > > > > > > You can't extend a guess, a pity! :) > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 31 January 2007 11:48 > > > To: Hamish > > > Cc: list 313 > > > Subject: RE: (313) London happenings > > > > > > Sounds good...might give it a shot... > > > > > > Any pubs or bars worth visiting? > > > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > > Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 > > > Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de > > > CC: list 313 > > > Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings > > > > > > Quiet in London? Not a chance. > > > > > > Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > > > > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > > > > > > > Thanx, > > > > Martijn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) London happenings
We try to make sure to schedule them for when the out of towners just happen to be leaving Michael! ;-). Jes kidding! Seriously, if you're coming from some far-flung corner of the earth (like Wales for instance!) just to come to a Bleep43 party, then we'd very likely look favourably on that. K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 15:16 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: list 313; Hamish; Blaauw, Martijn de Subject: RE: (313) London happenings I'm beginning to think that not a soul living outside of London or the UK has been to a Bleep party. It's always "too bad you can't stay a little longer..." with you lot innit? ;-) MEK "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/31/2007 05:51:34 AM: > You will just miss our Convextion and Surgeon party on the 9th Martijn. > > You can't extend a guess, a pity! :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 January 2007 11:48 > To: Hamish > Cc: list 313 > Subject: RE: (313) London happenings > > Sounds good...might give it a shot... > > Any pubs or bars worth visiting? > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 > Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de > CC: list 313 > Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings > > Quiet in London? Not a chance. > > Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. > > > > On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > > > Thanx, > > Martijn > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) London happenings
I've been to one and thought it was ace. I was legless though, so I may be barred now :-( I live in the UK (not London though), but was on a trip home from working in Canada at the time... On 31/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm beginning to think that not a soul living outside of London or the UK has been to a Bleep party. It's always "too bad you can't stay a little longer..." with you lot innit? ;-) MEK "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/31/2007 05:51:34 AM: > You will just miss our Convextion and Surgeon party on the 9th Martijn. > > You can't extend a guess, a pity! :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 January 2007 11:48 > To: Hamish > Cc: list 313 > Subject: RE: (313) London happenings > > Sounds good...might give it a shot... > > Any pubs or bars worth visiting? > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 > Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de > CC: list 313 > Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings > > Quiet in London? Not a chance. > > Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. > > > > On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > > > Thanx, > > Martijn > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
"You pre-master in Live? Crikey the sound engine in their makes things sound as flat as a pancake...Off with your ears ;)" This one comes up all the time despite the numerous tests that people have setup over the years. The fact is that the internal sound engine in Live is no less superior to any other major DAW - they are all good and almost (if not totally) indistinguishable from each other. I used Steinberg sequencers since 1986(yikes!) before switching to Live about 18 months ago. Never looked back!! See you, Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk www.punkdisco.co.uk/Music/Wot.mp3 - New annoying track www.myspace.com/punkdisco - Zero content, more pictures
Re: (313) Cynet-Media Podcast No.3
Thanks again for sharing Martin. I should know this tune but does anyone know what's playing at around the 50 minute mark? The one with the pianos. robin... Martin Dust wrote: Visit www.cynet-media.com Direct Link: http://basiclanguage.net/download/DifferentWorld-LiveMix-1-26-2007.mp3
RE: (313) London happenings
I'm beginning to think that not a soul living outside of London or the UK has been to a Bleep party. It's always "too bad you can't stay a little longer..." with you lot innit? ;-) MEK "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/31/2007 05:51:34 AM: > You will just miss our Convextion and Surgeon party on the 9th Martijn. > > You can't extend a guess, a pity! :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 January 2007 11:48 > To: Hamish > Cc: list 313 > Subject: RE: (313) London happenings > > Sounds good...might give it a shot... > > Any pubs or bars worth visiting? > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 > Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de > CC: list 313 > Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings > > Quiet in London? Not a chance. > > Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. > > > > On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > > > Thanx, > > Martijn > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
Well, perhaps you are generalising a bit too much Paul. In my experience, the so-called 'dance scene' seems to be amongst the most progressive and enlightened about the whole over-compression issue *just judging from my own experience mind*, and seeing as you know at least some of the music I like, you'll have a fair guess what I'm basing my judgement on! (I also notice that jazz records to tend to have exquisitely subtle compression compared to chart stuff.) For instance, whoever's familiar with the R&S back catalogue will remember that virtually all that label's records and CDs could often seem bafflingly 'quiet' - even right up to the final releases of the late '90s-early 2000s. In fact of course, rather than negligence, this was a case of a label making a conscious decision to keep as much of the original dynamics of the tracks as possible, by not engaging in more compression than was strictly necessary. It was a good decision in my view. And as I say, from what I can see, it's one which a lot of small 'electronic music' labels seem to make too. (I haven't heard any of the recent R&S represses so I can't speak for those.) I could also cite the mp3s and FLACs from bleep.com as apparently being reproduced from more tastefully-compressed masters than the norm, it seems to me. Ken -Original Message- From: punkdISCO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2007 18:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout "look at early theo parrish records in a wav editor. the peaks of the kicks will be hitting at 0 and the rest will be at -25dB or some ridiculous nonsense like that" At the danger of over simplifying things, DJs are probably the biggest single culprits for the loss of dynamics in today's music. Its DJs who don't play the quieter tracks. Its DJs that will play a heavily compressed (loud) track on the club's PA at level 10, leaving no scope to then turn up the next quieter track. Etc.. Okay, this is really generalising but hey, it's not too far from the truth... Ta, Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk www.punkdisco.co.uk/Music/Wot.mp3 - New annoying track www.myspace.com/punkdisco - Zero content, more pictures
RE: (313) London happenings
If you want traditional English stout or porter, then the Jerusalem Tavern is not too far from either Fabric or Turnmills. http://www.stpetersbrewery.co.uk/london/default.htm Not open on a Saturday though! -Original Message- From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 11:48 To: Hamish Cc: list 313 Subject: RE: (313) London happenings Sounds good...might give it a shot... Any pubs or bars worth visiting? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings Quiet in London? Not a chance. Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > Thanx, > Martijn > > > > For all the latest news and comment visit telegraph.co.uk, the UK's most visited quality newspaper website. This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT registered in England under No 451593. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither we nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or those of our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the author. Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our email systems. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information.
RE: (313) London happenings
You will just miss our Convextion and Surgeon party on the 9th Martijn. You can't extend a guess, a pity! :) -Original Message- From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 11:48 To: Hamish Cc: list 313 Subject: RE: (313) London happenings Sounds good...might give it a shot... Any pubs or bars worth visiting? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings Quiet in London? Not a chance. Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > Thanx, > Martijn > > > >
RE: (313) London happenings
Sounds good...might give it a shot... Any pubs or bars worth visiting? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Hamish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 31 januari 2007 12:44 Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de CC: list 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) London happenings Quiet in London? Not a chance. Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of > february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. > > Thanx, > Martijn > > > >
Re: (313) London happenings
Quiet in London? Not a chance. Don't forget the boss, Ricardo Villalobos, at Fabric on Feb 3. On 1/31/07, Blaauw, Martijn de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. Thanx, Martijn
RE: (313) London happenings
Stacey Pullen is playing at Gurnmills on the 3rd. Otherwise it's a bit dead (apart from Derrick May on 17th) until March. We need some rest time! -Original Message- From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2007 11:40 To: list 313 Subject: (313) London happenings Hello, Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. Thanx, Martijn For all the latest news and comment visit telegraph.co.uk, the UK's most visited quality newspaper website. This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT registered in England under No 451593. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither we nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or those of our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the author. Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our email systems. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information.
(313) London happenings
Hello, Will be in London from Thursday the 1st of february till the 5th of february, anything happening? or up for a pint please let me know. Thanx, Martijn
Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
I also do some compilation CD mastering and import all of the CD tracks into Live, use a multi-band compressor on it all, match the levels from song to song and normalize it. Haven't had a complaint yet. now, as for getting on the microphone and adding to all of the tracks your own MC'ing... that is another story. You pre-master in Live? Crikey the sound engine in their makes things sound as flat as a pancake...Off with your ears ;) m
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
Not sure if this is the problem or not but there is some sort of feature on that CD to prevent copying. Before anyone gets all judgemental on me I was copying it for in my car, I dont like taking original CD's in it since I had a bundle stolen from it. Also, sounds fine to my ears. Cheers BT --- "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope you volunteered your services to CC then > Todd, after all you know > him better than most. ;-) > > > (I've never heard the Work Out CD so I can't judge. > However I have a few > mix CDs by CC and the sound on these seems ok. > Surely one would think an > audibly 'damaged' recording would not be passed as > fit for release by > CC? He's not alone amongst recording artists for > being a stickler, but > it's clear that he is one.) > > K > > -Original Message- > From: Todd Sines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 January 2007 17:29 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout > > He probably engineered it himself though... > Mastering is usually handled > > by the label to give it a second listen with fresh > ears. > > I engineered the Death in Vegas mix for Richard > Fearless for Fabric. > Levels were adjusted by me and then adjusted again > by the mastering > facility that Fabric uses. They hear stuff you don't > after listening to > it over and over. I highly recommend that you let a > mastering facility > have the final say vs. the artist, because you > become so attached and > used to things, it's hard for you to think outside > of it. > > I also do some compilation CD mastering and import > all of the CD tracks > into Live, use a multi-band compressor on it all, > match the levels from > song to song and normalize it. Haven't had a > complaint yet. > > now, as for getting on the microphone and adding to > all of the tracks > your own MC'ing... that is another story. > > > +odd > > PS: http://www.toddsines.com/ ... new reviews of the > new release on > Frankie > > PPS: playing in Chicago next Wednesday 07 Feb, > available Thurs + Friday > .. plus also booking European tour dates for April + > May now. and dates > for Asia in July. get in touch: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Matt Kane's Brain wrote: > > In any case, Carl Craig didn't master this so it's > a silly reason not > to > > buy his mixes. > > > > On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:57, robin wrote: > > > >> > >> Is it not just really squashed with a compressor > rather than clipped? > >> > >> The two situations look the same in a wave editor > (still doesn't help > > >> the sound quality issue though, I hate "squashed" > mastering). > >> > >> Kent? :) > >> > >> robin... > >> > >> Williams, Graham wrote: > >>> I recently bought "The Workout" mix cd, I > haven't bought a cd in > years, > >>> but what a disappointment, when I was listen to > it, it sounded a bit > >>> rough, kinda like it was clipping, so I opened > it in Sound Forge to > have > >>> a look. At least 50% of the mix must have been > in the red when it > was > >>> recorded. What a disgrace. I wont be buying a CC > mix cd again. > Anyone > >>> else have this mix ? > >>> G > > > > -- > > matt kane's brain > > http://hydrogenproject.com > > aim -> mkbatwerk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Todd Sines > director > + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ > +1.646.330.4873 studio > 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 > // > connecting the space between + within. >
RE: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout
I hope you volunteered your services to CC then Todd, after all you know him better than most. ;-) (I've never heard the Work Out CD so I can't judge. However I have a few mix CDs by CC and the sound on these seems ok. Surely one would think an audibly 'damaged' recording would not be passed as fit for release by CC? He's not alone amongst recording artists for being a stickler, but it's clear that he is one.) K -Original Message- From: Todd Sines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2007 17:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout He probably engineered it himself though... Mastering is usually handled by the label to give it a second listen with fresh ears. I engineered the Death in Vegas mix for Richard Fearless for Fabric. Levels were adjusted by me and then adjusted again by the mastering facility that Fabric uses. They hear stuff you don't after listening to it over and over. I highly recommend that you let a mastering facility have the final say vs. the artist, because you become so attached and used to things, it's hard for you to think outside of it. I also do some compilation CD mastering and import all of the CD tracks into Live, use a multi-band compressor on it all, match the levels from song to song and normalize it. Haven't had a complaint yet. now, as for getting on the microphone and adding to all of the tracks your own MC'ing... that is another story. +odd PS: http://www.toddsines.com/ ... new reviews of the new release on Frankie PPS: playing in Chicago next Wednesday 07 Feb, available Thurs + Friday .. plus also booking European tour dates for April + May now. and dates for Asia in July. get in touch: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Kane's Brain wrote: > In any case, Carl Craig didn't master this so it's a silly reason not to > buy his mixes. > > On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:57, robin wrote: > >> >> Is it not just really squashed with a compressor rather than clipped? >> >> The two situations look the same in a wave editor (still doesn't help >> the sound quality issue though, I hate "squashed" mastering). >> >> Kent? :) >> >> robin... >> >> Williams, Graham wrote: >>> I recently bought "The Workout" mix cd, I haven't bought a cd in years, >>> but what a disappointment, when I was listen to it, it sounded a bit >>> rough, kinda like it was clipping, so I opened it in Sound Forge to have >>> a look. At least 50% of the mix must have been in the red when it was >>> recorded. What a disgrace. I wont be buying a CC mix cd again. Anyone >>> else have this mix ? >>> G > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > aim -> mkbatwerk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
(313) Cynet-Media Podcast No.3
Got this thru last night, enjoy... m Nakajima & Young aka Different World presents: Cynet-Media Podcast No.3 recorded in Fukui Japan Live. Visit www.cynet-media.com Direct Link: http://basiclanguage.net/download/DifferentWorld-LiveMix-1-26-2007.mp3 Another eclectic mix of hard beats and loops. featuring tracks from Takenaka, DJ Ian Elgey (Glasgow), Plaid, Wu-Tang Clan, Kevin Saunderson, Jeff Mills, Slam Mode, Dj Rush, Juan Atkins, Kraftwerk (cy special edit), Carl Craig, Surgeon & More!!! Enjoy. Cy2 & Nakajima Coming Soon: Cynet-CD002? Orlando Voorn - Sessions from the Deep (DJ Mix CD ) Over 60 minutes of Orlando Voorn Classic Productions mixed by Orlando Voorn himself! Available on CD (Japan Only) / Digital Download - more info to follow soon...
Re: (313) Carl Craig
Thanks for sharing! On 1/30/07, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, thanks for sharing Martin...listening now. robin... Martin Dust wrote: > No worries P, been rocking the office for a couple of days with it... > >
(313) acid!
http://www.p909.com/live/p909_live_at_smart_bar_20070124_thanks_andrew.mp3
