(313) Community Projects (Planet E sublabel)
Did they only do two releases? Innerzone and Francisco Mora Catlet's "World Trade Music"? anything else? MEK
Re: (313) Justice
Yeah I dig that. I wish I didn't have a migraine guys, I'd deal with this thread more graciously then! ;) I think it's the thought of MIMS that did it... On 27/06/2007, at 8:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also on the dope instrumental hiphop tip, Dr. Who Dat? (aka janiero jarel) Jniero's music is solid - Three Piece Puzzle has been on heavy rotation here for the last two years Lex records is a fine label too MEK
Re: (313) Track Moodymann dropped... what is it? & a quick nyc update
the track on the video sounds really good. please let us know if you find out! On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Did you ever get an answer for this? Just catching up and I think I might have this track. Does the guy go on about "my woman, my woman..." and all that? Lemme know. K mwnb
Re: (313) Justice
> also on the dope instrumental hiphop tip, Dr. Who Dat? (aka janiero > jarel) Jniero's music is solid - Three Piece Puzzle has been on heavy rotation here for the last two years Lex records is a fine label too MEK
RE: (313) Track Moodymann dropped... what is it? & a quick nyc update
Did you ever get an answer for this? Just catching up and I think I might have this track. Does the guy go on about "my woman, my woman..." and all that? Lemme know. K mwnb -Original Message- From: M Ng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Track Moodymann dropped... what is it? & a quick nyc update Hey guys Just a quick update NYC Moodymann played at Shelter on the 17th, nice little party with him playing behind a screen (no facing the front!). He'd dropped some really great deep tracks, speak on the microphone and everyone had a great time. This one track, he played i have no idea what it is but it was so very deep ... i captured it on video on my camera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EzVsdaJBg [this will also give you an idea of how everyone was also dancing around] Carl played at Demon nights last night. Unfort he was BAD in that it was more of a uplifting NY sound with no SOUL.. i think Dang spent the nite getting him to play this one track. Ok it was fun but I've seen him funk it up big time and tonight unfort was not it. It ws probably the crowd of 18 year olds or whatever. :( I have come to the realisation that I prefer the relatively empty venue and a DJ that is uncompromising (eg Jeff, Juan, Moodymann) rather than a full venue and bad music. cheers m
RE: (313) Justice
Nah, 'sall in the way you choose to see it. By your logic "dance music" would be in dire need of a regeneration too cause we'd be lumping tiesto in with moodyman (they both play dance music). But I personally feel it's doing alright(steady stream of sick releases for the last few years almost...and getting better). And the fact that a guy/group doesn't show up for shows doesn't make them less dope. If that was the case mike banks would suck (and we all know how that's going, right?). I think if you see that mainstream pop-oriented stuff then yeah, the hip-hop you see probably does need a revitalization, but that ish doesn't even hit my radar, so it's looking pretty fine from here. And I understand you've been following this scene for a long time, but I've been living it even longer and the real excitement has always been in the less promoted areas of the genre, even back then. When GMF dropped the message, it wasn't a hit because of how dope the music was in itself, it was dope because of all the underground stuff preceding it (block parties, warehouse/empty apt jams with OG b-boys bustin) that it represented. It made a piece of that available and people bought into it becausae they were already excited by the less publicized more rumored about aspects of the genre. That's why here most cats see a real clear difference between hip-hop and rap. Most of what you mentioned would be called rap here and some folks even get hot if you get that wrong. But whatever, you probably know this as well huh? K Mwnb -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:43 PM To: J.T. Cc: Tristan Watkins; Thomas D. Cox,Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Justice I listen to hip-hop all day at work, I hear a lot, underground, commercial, the whole 9. I am not some newbie. I have followed this scene since Grandmaster Flash came out. I am not the only one saying that. Stuff like Brother Ali isn't pushing things ahead either, he's a good lyricist, but the beats? The Spank Rock LP was cool but they can't even bother showing up for Big Day Out and sent their boys for what was the worst show we've seen all year - check Australian web forums. Have you heard Alex DJ lately? That Fabric CD was generic. The RZA album is very good, but not exactly new. There is good stuff but overall the culture - and the commercial side is part of that culture - is in need of regeneration. Nas got that bit right. On 27/06/2007, at 4:37 AM, J.T. wrote: > oh c'mon, you are scraping the dregs out there, this is all tired > nyc stuff. lloyd banks? well duh, g-unit sucks harrrd, they always > did. mims? fabolous? this is as mainstream as it gets, mims was #1 > in the charts! hiphop fans don't listen to that stuff, pop music/ > mtv people do. down south is where the hot stuff is. and bay area > ok ok. and bmore and detroit. oh yeah. and i don't mean for > undergound hiphop fans, which usually means "college" hiphop. the > southern hiphop sound seems to have been dominating for a few years > now, but maybe that's just my perspective living in the south. > > i certainly wouldnt call spank rock boring, and i think you're > realy really hating if you do. black milk is carrying the torch > for dilla, and he produced nametag's album, and nametag is suuper. > lil uno and boo ski and the pack are doing that totally mental > almost beatless stuff..crazy minimal 808 tracks, so so dope. and > jjak hogan are my friends and unknown as yet, but are opening for > beastie boys next tour and have an album coming on radioslave's > rekids, of all places. and some other records in fine places too ;) > they are a bit like spank rock mixed with outkast and other > southern flavors. some of their stuff is really really techno. > > i like the new rza track on the radio too, classic wu style... > > > > > > > -Original Message- > >> From: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:39 PM >> To: Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) Justice >> >> The US side isn't that inspiring at the moment, frankly - I mean >> MIMS, Lloyd Banks, Fabolous - and the underground is about as boring! >> The general view in the hip hop industry is that Americans would >> never accept a non-American MC. Don't the Brits hate all their MCs? >> The UK guys always complain about that when coming here! ;) >> >> On 26/06/2007, at 6:58 PM, Tristan Watkins wrote: >> >> >>> - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM >>> Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He > used > to produce MC Solaar. > > >
Re: (313) Justice
On 6/26/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i certainly wouldnt call spank rock boring nah, but id call them pretty terrible. theyre right up there with tittworth and ayres, diplo, etc in that "why are these guys out there representing this kind of music?!?!?!" category for me. black milk is carrying the torch for dilla yeah him and ta'raach are banging it out for detroit for sure. and jjak hogan are my friends and unknown as yet, but are opening for beastie boys next tour and have an album coming on radioslave's rekids, of all places. i really liked their stuff on their myspace page, ill definitely be checking out their whole album. also on the dope instrumental hiphop tip, Dr. Who Dat? (aka janiero jarel) had an ill album out earlier this year, and some guys from totoise just dropped a really minimal and raw instrumentals album on stone's throw under the "Bumps" moniker, i picked that sh*t up the other day. really raw! tom
Re: (313) Justice
I listen to hip-hop all day at work, I hear a lot, underground, commercial, the whole 9. I am not some newbie. I have followed this scene since Grandmaster Flash came out. I am not the only one saying that. Stuff like Brother Ali isn't pushing things ahead either, he's a good lyricist, but the beats? The Spank Rock LP was cool but they can't even bother showing up for Big Day Out and sent their boys for what was the worst show we've seen all year - check Australian web forums. Have you heard Alex DJ lately? That Fabric CD was generic. The RZA album is very good, but not exactly new. There is good stuff but overall the culture - and the commercial side is part of that culture - is in need of regeneration. Nas got that bit right. On 27/06/2007, at 4:37 AM, J.T. wrote: oh c'mon, you are scraping the dregs out there, this is all tired nyc stuff. lloyd banks? well duh, g-unit sucks harrrd, they always did. mims? fabolous? this is as mainstream as it gets, mims was #1 in the charts! hiphop fans don't listen to that stuff, pop music/ mtv people do. down south is where the hot stuff is. and bay area ok ok. and bmore and detroit. oh yeah. and i don't mean for undergound hiphop fans, which usually means "college" hiphop. the southern hiphop sound seems to have been dominating for a few years now, but maybe that's just my perspective living in the south. i certainly wouldnt call spank rock boring, and i think you're realy really hating if you do. black milk is carrying the torch for dilla, and he produced nametag's album, and nametag is suuper. lil uno and boo ski and the pack are doing that totally mental almost beatless stuff..crazy minimal 808 tracks, so so dope. and jjak hogan are my friends and unknown as yet, but are opening for beastie boys next tour and have an album coming on radioslave's rekids, of all places. and some other records in fine places too ;) they are a bit like spank rock mixed with outkast and other southern flavors. some of their stuff is really really techno. i like the new rza track on the radio too, classic wu style... -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:39 PM To: Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Justice The US side isn't that inspiring at the moment, frankly - I mean MIMS, Lloyd Banks, Fabolous - and the underground is about as boring! The general view in the hip hop industry is that Americans would never accept a non-American MC. Don't the Brits hate all their MCs? The UK guys always complain about that when coming here! ;) On 26/06/2007, at 6:58 PM, Tristan Watkins wrote: - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing something. I agree, although I really struggle with most British MCs too. It's kind of like asking a Papua New Guinean to yodel. That said, I've got some time for MC Solaar and a few other exceptions to the rule. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
throw Generator in the ring as well. =D m. > Hear Hear! > > I'll take this moment to announce new Technoir Audio releases are > forthcoming, vinyl only. We are doing our part:) > > jw > > > On 6/26/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> yeah i think it's the online shopping taking hold more than anything >> else. you don't see many people at all in stores that carry only cd's >> either, really. >> >> i'm pretty tired of hearing the sky is falling, honestly. >> >> in the usa at least, i hear straight from the source (pressing plants) >> that major labels are doing more vinyl than they have for years, and >> that 7"s are huge with indie labels & bands again. >> >> maybe dance music may need some juicing up or something, but vinyl is >> nowhere near death. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:12 PM >> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >> >Subject: RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open! >> > >> >Not sure that's the case over here - see my previous mail. Of course >> part of the reason that shops here are having a hard time is >> >vinyl as well as downloads being bought online but it's a worrying >> situation nevertheless. >> > >> > >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: 26 June 2007 17:57 >> >> >> >> personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the >> >> bleeding has stopped. >> > >> >> > > > -- > Technoir Audio > http://www.technoiraudio.com > "dealing with your imperfect world" > M. Tang | A & R Generator Detroit/Chicago/Berlin email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim. jiji2017 www.generatormusic.com = Coming soon: GEN029 - Neon Sex Fiend - Elektrofive (12") Remixes by DJ K1, Ultradyne, and Mauser. Soundclips @ www.generatormusic.com
Re: (313) Justice
yeah all that mims, gunit and whatever is terrible stuff. papoose and fabolous are both awful as well. the new guilty simpson looks promising. i definitely like his style. 8 diagrams might be worth a listen although it's going to be pretty much impossible for them to ever do anything as nice as 36 chambers and the first cuban linx. On 6/26/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The US side isn't that inspiring at the moment, frankly - I mean MIMS, Lloyd Banks, Fabolous - and the underground is about as boring! The general view in the hip hop industry is that Americans would never accept a non-American MC. Don't the Brits hate all their MCs? The UK guys always complain about that when coming here! ;) On 26/06/2007, at 6:58 PM, Tristan Watkins wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM > Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice > > > >> On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used >>> to produce MC Solaar. >>> >> >> i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple >> of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing >> something. >> > > > I agree, although I really struggle with most British MCs too. It's > kind of like asking a Papua New Guinean to yodel. That said, I've > got some time for MC Solaar and a few other exceptions to the rule. > > Tristan > === > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk >
Re: (313) Justice
ok, since i proved having no taste at all diggin' some of the justice & co. stuff... and we're talking about hiphop, dimlite and the likes now... here's at least something you guys might like, don't sleep on this ace compilation (feat. flying lotus & samiyam, spacek, aardvarck, dimlite, up hygh, hudson mohawke and more) http://www.rushhour.nl/beatdimensions/ c* But while we're talking about hip hop, that second Dimlite album is seriously blowing me away. Can't believe I slept on it when it came out. Amazing hip hop beats. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message- > From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 June 2007 18:40 > To: Tristan Watkins > Cc: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice > > The general view in the hip hop industry is that Americans > would never accept a non-American MC. I dunno about never, but he/she hasn't come along yet, at least not to my ears. > Don't the Brits hate all their MCs? The UK guys always complain about that when coming here! ;) Nah, not in my experience. But I don't think most UK hip hop heads are surprised to find out that most yanks don't care for British MCs. Not that I claim to be an authority on the British hip hop scene or anything. I've scarcely been keeping up. But while we're talking about hip hop, that second Dimlite album is seriously blowing me away. Can't believe I slept on it when it came out. Amazing hip hop beats. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Wanted: Magic Feet Magazine with Jay Denham/Kalamazoo article
Hey everybody, I'm trying to find an old issue of Magic Feet magazine that had an article about Jay Denham and the techno scene in Kalamazoo. The magazine came out sometime in 1996I lost my copy some time ago. Feel free to get of hold of me if you happen to have a spare copy, or know where I can find one. Thanks for the help! Aaron Bennett --- Aaron Bennett Founder + Creative Director Reverse Edit [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reverse-edit.com
Re: (313) Justice
oh c'mon, you are scraping the dregs out there, this is all tired nyc stuff. lloyd banks? well duh, g-unit sucks harrrd, they always did. mims? fabolous? this is as mainstream as it gets, mims was #1 in the charts! hiphop fans don't listen to that stuff, pop music/mtv people do. down south is where the hot stuff is. and bay area ok ok. and bmore and detroit. oh yeah. and i don't mean for undergound hiphop fans, which usually means "college" hiphop. the southern hiphop sound seems to have been dominating for a few years now, but maybe that's just my perspective living in the south. i certainly wouldnt call spank rock boring, and i think you're realy really hating if you do. black milk is carrying the torch for dilla, and he produced nametag's album, and nametag is suuper. lil uno and boo ski and the pack are doing that totally mental almost beatless stuff..crazy minimal 808 tracks, so so dope. and jjak hogan are my friends and unknown as yet, but are opening for beastie boys next tour and have an album coming on radioslave's rekids, of all places. and some other records in fine places too ;) they are a bit like spank rock mixed with outkast and other southern flavors. some of their stuff is really really techno. i like the new rza track on the radio too, classic wu style... -Original Message- >From: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:39 PM >To: Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Justice > >The US side isn't that inspiring at the moment, frankly - I mean >MIMS, Lloyd Banks, Fabolous - and the underground is about as boring! >The general view in the hip hop industry is that Americans would >never accept a non-American MC. Don't the Brits hate all their MCs? >The UK guys always complain about that when coming here! ;) > >On 26/06/2007, at 6:58 PM, Tristan Watkins wrote: > >> - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM >> Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice >> >> >> >>> On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. >>> >>> i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple >>> of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing >>> something. >>> >> >> >> I agree, although I really struggle with most British MCs too. It's >> kind of like asking a Papua New Guinean to yodel. That said, I've >> got some time for MC Solaar and a few other exceptions to the rule. >> >> Tristan >> === >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.phonopsia.co.uk >> >
RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
> in the usa at least, i hear straight from the source (pressing > plants) that major labels are doing more vinyl than they have for > years, and that 7"s are huge with indie labels & bands again. > > maybe dance music may need some juicing up or something, but vinyl > is nowhere near death. Very true - I get all my indie stuff on vinyl when I can. I've actually been buying more indie rock/folk lately than I have the usual club stuff. Seems like quite a number of indie rock/folk labels are doing things like ltd. ed. runs of 10" and 7" vinyl, collector set series, etc. I love it - and the music is really good right now in the world of indie rock but that's all OT except there's this band called Canada from Ann Arbor, MI that is really good both on recording and live (even better live) MEK
Re: (313) Justice
The US side isn't that inspiring at the moment, frankly - I mean MIMS, Lloyd Banks, Fabolous - and the underground is about as boring! The general view in the hip hop industry is that Americans would never accept a non-American MC. Don't the Brits hate all their MCs? The UK guys always complain about that when coming here! ;) On 26/06/2007, at 6:58 PM, Tristan Watkins wrote: - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing something. I agree, although I really struggle with most British MCs too. It's kind of like asking a Papua New Guinean to yodel. That said, I've got some time for MC Solaar and a few other exceptions to the rule. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
Hear Hear! I'll take this moment to announce new Technoir Audio releases are forthcoming, vinyl only. We are doing our part:) jw On 6/26/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yeah i think it's the online shopping taking hold more than anything else. you don't see many people at all in stores that carry only cd's either, really. i'm pretty tired of hearing the sky is falling, honestly. in the usa at least, i hear straight from the source (pressing plants) that major labels are doing more vinyl than they have for years, and that 7"s are huge with indie labels & bands again. maybe dance music may need some juicing up or something, but vinyl is nowhere near death. -Original Message- >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:12 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open! > >Not sure that's the case over here - see my previous mail. Of course part of the reason that shops here are having a hard time is >vinyl as well as downloads being bought online but it's a worrying situation nevertheless. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 26 June 2007 17:57 >> >> personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the >> bleeding has stopped. > -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com "dealing with your imperfect world"
RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
yeah i think it's the online shopping taking hold more than anything else. you don't see many people at all in stores that carry only cd's either, really. i'm pretty tired of hearing the sky is falling, honestly. in the usa at least, i hear straight from the source (pressing plants) that major labels are doing more vinyl than they have for years, and that 7"s are huge with indie labels & bands again. maybe dance music may need some juicing up or something, but vinyl is nowhere near death. -Original Message- >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:12 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open! > >Not sure that's the case over here - see my previous mail. Of course part of >the reason that shops here are having a hard time is >vinyl as well as downloads being bought online but it's a worrying situation >nevertheless. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 26 June 2007 17:57 >> >> personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the >> bleeding has stopped. >
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
err yeah man, i realize all that. it's a shame, but places gotta close sometime, and they had a good run. hope they went out with a bang and that dope jams and others rise to replace. it is a bit odd a bigger fuss wasn't made about vm closing, but we don't have many old new york house/disco heads around these parts i guess. i'm sure dope jams has ny house too, i guess, i don't know of much/any modern ny house that i like but i bet they have the good stuff. i understand your comment about buying stuff from chi/d in chi/d, going to the heart of the culture etc, but i guess i don't really see a thriving house culture anymore anyways. still, always cool to go to the source, but i'm thankful for any good record shop i can come across in the real world, especially if it's got lots of the stuff i'm after (duh) -Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Jun 26, 2007 1:12 PM >To: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open! > > > > > >but if I want Chicago and Detroit I'd buy it from Chicago and Detroit > >Vinylmania was great because it was NY and Jersey stuff - and it's beyond >just "oh great there's a new place" >it can't take the place of Vinylmania because it will never have the >history that VM had >I liked shopping at VM because I knew there was a serious heritage of >legendary DJs that shopped there - like eating at some famous steak house >and seeing all the framed pictures of famous entertainers on the wall >you could walk in and think "I'm a part of all of this" >it would be like Submerge closing - it's all just a memory now > >sentimental - yeah, definitely >times change though and we have to soldier on > >hopefully VM closing was the last gush of blood > >MEK > >"J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/26/2007 11:56:42 AM: > >> don't worry -- there is Dope Jams in Brooklyn now. i haven't been >> there, but it's apparently a super high-quality shop for house, and >> some disco and stuff in there too. from what i hear, they get all >> the dope detroit and chi stuff, and very little junk...great store name >too! >> >> personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the bleeding >> has stopped. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Sent: Jun 25, 2007 1:16 PM >> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >> >Subject: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Apparently it closed up shop in March :-( >> >How come this wasn't bigger news?? >> > >> >Was probably NYC last remaining bastion of real house and disco music in >> >the city >> >was around the corner from the Paradise Garage - opened in 1978 >> > >> >rent in the neighborhood have increased too much >> > >> >http://gravityandfusion.blogspot.com/2007/03/vinyl-mania.html >> >>http://broklynbeats.blogspot.com/2007/03/vinylmania-empire-rink-close_23.html > >> >http://forum.defected.com/viewtopic.php? >> t=27655&highlight=&sid=765b66b5ff5053db6b6036665c88908a >> > >> > >> >if you had never been to the shop it was an amazing experience >> >great service - hand picked selection for you >> >floor to ceiling records and just the pure heritage and history in that >> >little shop >> > >> >a proper House Music Mecca >> > >> >damn... >> > >> > >> >MEK >> > >> > >> >
RE: (313) Justice
I had bangers and mash for tea last night. I cooked a full packet of sausages intending to eat half last night and then put the other half on one side so when they'd cooled I could put them in the freezer for another week. But it was so good that I might have to have bangers and mash again when I get in. I'll have peas with it instead of broccoli tonight though. However I think Justice and Ed Banger are a right load of cr*p. > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 June 2007 09:29 > To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) Justice > > I'm sure you wouldn't vomit if you concentrated on the > tastiness of his name Tom. :) > > Just think, we have Ed(ward), as in King Edwards (a variety of English > Potatoes) and 'Bangers' - slang for sausages. These are what > you need for 'bangers and mash' ... that staple of UK haute > cuisine
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
have to go back and acknoledge the fact that there is a new shop open - that's brilliant I'll check it out thanks MEK "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/26/2007 11:56:42 AM: > don't worry -- there is Dope Jams in Brooklyn now. i haven't been > there, but it's apparently a super high-quality shop for house, and > some disco and stuff in there too. from what i hear, they get all > the dope detroit and chi stuff, and very little junk...great store name too! > > personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the bleeding > has stopped.
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
but if I want Chicago and Detroit I'd buy it from Chicago and Detroit Vinylmania was great because it was NY and Jersey stuff - and it's beyond just "oh great there's a new place" it can't take the place of Vinylmania because it will never have the history that VM had I liked shopping at VM because I knew there was a serious heritage of legendary DJs that shopped there - like eating at some famous steak house and seeing all the framed pictures of famous entertainers on the wall you could walk in and think "I'm a part of all of this" it would be like Submerge closing - it's all just a memory now sentimental - yeah, definitely times change though and we have to soldier on hopefully VM closing was the last gush of blood MEK "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/26/2007 11:56:42 AM: > don't worry -- there is Dope Jams in Brooklyn now. i haven't been > there, but it's apparently a super high-quality shop for house, and > some disco and stuff in there too. from what i hear, they get all > the dope detroit and chi stuff, and very little junk...great store name too! > > personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the bleeding > has stopped. > > > -Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Jun 25, 2007 1:16 PM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! > > > > > > > > > > > >Apparently it closed up shop in March :-( > >How come this wasn't bigger news?? > > > >Was probably NYC last remaining bastion of real house and disco music in > >the city > >was around the corner from the Paradise Garage - opened in 1978 > > > >rent in the neighborhood have increased too much > > > >http://gravityandfusion.blogspot.com/2007/03/vinyl-mania.html > >http://broklynbeats.blogspot.com/2007/03/vinylmania-empire-rink-close_23.html > >http://forum.defected.com/viewtopic.php? > t=27655&highlight=&sid=765b66b5ff5053db6b6036665c88908a > > > > > >if you had never been to the shop it was an amazing experience > >great service - hand picked selection for you > >floor to ceiling records and just the pure heritage and history in that > >little shop > > > >a proper House Music Mecca > > > >damn... > > > > > >MEK > > > > >
RE: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
Not sure that's the case over here - see my previous mail. Of course part of the reason that shops here are having a hard time is vinyl as well as downloads being bought online but it's a worrying situation nevertheless. > -Original Message- > From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 June 2007 17:57 > > personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the > bleeding has stopped.
Re: (313) new Delsins are a pair of little goodies
Must have a word with my local favourite shop as they don't seem to be bringing in the latest Delsin stuff - my choice has been reduced since the loss of Pelican Neck here in Manchester: re Henrique's mail about Vinylmania - that may have been some rent thing but independent record shops here in the UK are melting away like the ice caps. Going record shopping on a Saturday afternoon (weekly thing for me) you can see why - once that was peak time and they'd have been packed. Nowadays you might be the only person in the shop. The younger generation are definitely in love with digital downloads. It must be that the kids coming through are using CDs and laptops. I guess it's a natural progression. I mean it's easier to shove this stuff on your iPod for listeing on the train but I still prefer vinyl (even after recording in, most digital mastering is a bit heavy handed on the compressor). Anyway, I digress. That Redshape on Delsin is ace. robin...
(313) new Delsins are a pair of little goodies
OK looking at the site they're not that new but I picked up the latest Redshape and that Taho on Saturday. Liking them and was v. disappointed that the time never seemed right to drop them at our party on Sat night. Haven't heard the new Quince either but will check it now. Must have a word with my local favourite shop as they don't seem to be bringing in the latest Delsin stuff - my choice has been reduced since the loss of Pelican Neck here in Manchester: re Henrique's mail about Vinylmania - that may have been some rent thing but independent record shops here in the UK are melting away like the ice caps. Going record shopping on a Saturday afternoon (weekly thing for me) you can see why - once that was peak time and they'd have been packed. Nowadays you might be the only person in the shop.
Re: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! Dope Jams is open!
don't worry -- there is Dope Jams in Brooklyn now. i haven't been there, but it's apparently a super high-quality shop for house, and some disco and stuff in there too. from what i hear, they get all the dope detroit and chi stuff, and very little junk...great store name too! personally i think vinyl is on the upswing, or at least the bleeding has stopped. -Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Jun 25, 2007 1:16 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: (313) Vinylmania in NYC closed?! > > > > > >Apparently it closed up shop in March :-( >How come this wasn't bigger news?? > >Was probably NYC last remaining bastion of real house and disco music in >the city >was around the corner from the Paradise Garage - opened in 1978 > >rent in the neighborhood have increased too much > >http://gravityandfusion.blogspot.com/2007/03/vinyl-mania.html >http://broklynbeats.blogspot.com/2007/03/vinylmania-empire-rink-close_23.html >http://forum.defected.com/viewtopic.php?t=27655&highlight=&sid=765b66b5ff5053db6b6036665c88908a > > >if you had never been to the shop it was an amazing experience >great service - hand picked selection for you >floor to ceiling records and just the pure heritage and history in that >little shop > >a proper House Music Mecca > >damn... > > >MEK > >
RE: (313) carl craig do us a tape
ooops I just spotted that had been unravelled already my bad - just catching up after the weekend
RE: (313) carl craig do us a tape
Yes in fact 3 of the tracks on there (Laswell mix of Miles Davis, Urban Tribe : Sophistry and the particular issue of the Lalo Schifrin that Brendan spotted the Star Wars and Matrix references in) are quoted as 1998. So it must be after that. > -Original Message- > From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 June 2007 09:31 > > Are you sure that's from 1995? Seems a bit odd that it > mentions the Matrix and the new Star Wars films. It must be a > bit more recent than that... > > Brendan > > On 25/06/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > Again out of my dusty boxes with old magazines, found this > article in > > a > > 1995 edition of Muzik with C2 compiling some interesting bits: > > > > http://www.dinamicas.art.br/blog/2007/06/fitinha-do-carl-craig/
Re: (313) Justice ed banger hiphop
>all of the above. i could tell from seeing them in trendy magazines >that i wouldnt like them. when i heard their music (before knowing who >it was that was playing) i never would have guessed that they would be >*that* bad. but they are. horrible horrible nonsense. its like the >less intelligent cousin of big beat and mainstream house. it really >cant get worse. i think id rather listen to aril brikha's recent >album. i second that. i know some of the people involved with ed banger stuff, and even they make fun of it. seriously! it's garbage but i don't take it seriously and i don't think they do either, so whatever. industry nonsense. >mehdi is definitely not either, IMO. it's boring. innovative? pff there's lots of weird hip-hop out there, i don't know that experimental and innovative are the same thing. bmost of it is bring. besides, more and more i'm coming to the view that "innovative" is a BS word. real innovation is making something hot that lasts, whether it is miles away from the old or not (totally subjective anyways, you can always ALWAYS find something similar that laid the roots for something else), you're adding something substantial to the lexicon of music, so what's the dif. my hiphop top 5 right now would be something like: jjak hogan, spank rock, wolfpack (lil uno & boo ski), black milk & nametag (last 2 = 313)
RE: (313) Justice
Papua New Guinean Yodelling would be worth the entrance fee in itself, surely... -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2007 09:58 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Justice - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice > On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used >> to produce MC Solaar. > > i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple > of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing > something. I agree, although I really struggle with most British MCs too. It's kind of like asking a Papua New Guinean to yodel. That said, I've got some time for MC Solaar and a few other exceptions to the rule. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Justice
- Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Justice On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing something. I agree, although I really struggle with most British MCs too. It's kind of like asking a Papua New Guinean to yodel. That said, I've got some time for MC Solaar and a few other exceptions to the rule. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Justice
- Original Message - From: "pauley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: RE: (313) Justice I just had a listen to it via junorecords. Does it sound better uncompressed? No... m
RE: (313) Justice
I just had a listen to it via junorecords. Does it sound better uncompressed? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:05 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Justice >all of the above. i could tell from seeing them in trendy magazines that i wouldnt like them. when i heard their music (before knowing who it was that was playing) i never would have guessed that they would be *that* bad. but they are. horrible horrible nonsense. its like the less intelligent cousin of big beat and mainstream house. it really cant get worse. i think id rather listen to aril brikha's recent album. Ooh that was low Tom! ;-) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 6/24/2007 8:33 AM
RE: (313) Justice
>all of the above. i could tell from seeing them in trendy magazines that i wouldnt like them. when i heard their music (before knowing who it was that was playing) i never would have guessed that they would be *that* bad. but they are. horrible horrible nonsense. its like the less intelligent cousin of big beat and mainstream house. it really cant get worse. i think id rather listen to aril brikha's recent album. Ooh that was low Tom! ;-)
Re: (313) Justice
On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing something. im not sure i would even call mehdi hiphop, really. but im a hater. tmo
Re: (313) Justice
Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used
to produce MC Solaar. His wife is a graff artist, I believe. I think
that Midfield General thing could be a favour as Damian Harris helped
Justice find a choir for DANCE.
On 26/06/2007, at 7:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to agree with Tom - reminds me of the worst characteristics
of big
beat
Ed Banger records even have Midfield General (owner of Skint -
original
home of Fatboy Slim) doing a remix of Krazy Baldhead
and it's a straight-up full on big beat rave sound complete with the
hip-hop vocal sample
Imo - DJ Mehdi is about as hip-hop as the Freestylers ("B-Boy Stance"
anyone?)
MEK
"Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/25/2007
03:23:07
PM:
On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah I didn't know it was some faux pas to mention them here.
Laurent
likes and plays them. Is it the image or music you dislike?
all of the above. i could tell from seeing them in trendy magazines
that i wouldnt like them. when i heard their music (before knowing
who
it was that was playing) i never would have guessed that they
would be
*that* bad. but they are. horrible horrible nonsense. its like the
less intelligent cousin of big beat and mainstream house. it really
cant get worse. i think id rather listen to aril brikha's recent
album.
I am
enjoying the Justice album. There is a French sensibility I like.
i like alot of french artists: pepe braddock, motorbass, air, daft
punk, etc. being french doesnt make the music any better if its bad
though
I am surprised people here wouldn't like Mehdi though - that's
innovative hip-hop.
im even pickier about hiphop than i am dance music. there's so little
that i like. and almost nothing that i would consider "innovative".
mehdi is definitely not either, IMO.
tom
Re: (313) Justice
Too much of anything is bad. My current playlist is Justice, Mills' One Man Spaceship, David Bowie's Young Americans, Station To Station & Low, Dimitri From Paris' Cocktail Disco of lost 'sleaze' disco, and my friend Christian Vance's live CD. On 26/06/2007, at 7:51 AM, Carlos de Brito wrote: you're not alone, Cyclone. i enjoy some of the justice, dj mehdi, digitalism, boyz noise, mr. oizo etc.., too. "d.a.n.c.e" and "phantoms pt. 2" are huge. the thing is: too much of that stuff in a row annoys me too. maybe it's a bit too calculable, maybe it's just that i'm getting old. c* Cyclone Wehner schrieb: Yeah I didn't know it was some faux pas to mention them here. Laurent likes and plays them. Is it the image or music you dislike? I am enjoying the Justice album. There is a French sensibility I like. The song DANCE written for Michael Jackson's lost childhood has a pathos. I am surprised people here wouldn't like Mehdi though - that's innovative hip-hop. On 25/06/2007, at 6:28 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I'm sure you wouldn't vomit if you concentrated on the tastiness of his name Tom. :) Just think, we have Ed(ward), as in King Edwards (a variety of English Potatoes) and 'Bangers' - slang for sausages. These are what you need for 'bangers and mash' ... that staple of UK haute cuisine ... and only slightly more stodgy than the Justice sound, imo. Ken -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2007 18:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/24/07, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What does everyone think of these guys? I am really enjoying the album. The French really have their own sound and ethos. I love Mehdi on Ed Banger too! I feel they're doing what Technasia might have done - becoming a techno Daft Punk! daft punk is techno. ed banger stuff makes me wanna vomit. tom
Re: (313) carl craig do us a tape
Thanks for sharing, there a lot of things listed there I have not heard of before. Always interested to listen to music that inspires the people that make the music that inspires me. Adam On 6/25/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:31:07AM +0100, Brendan Nelson wrote: > Are you sure that's from 1995? Seems a bit odd that it mentions the > Matrix and the new Star Wars films. It must be a bit more recent than > that... > Yes, you are right... It was 1999... hope the article is enjoyable the same way... Greetings G > Brendan > > On 25/06/07, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Hi list, > > > >Again out of my dusty boxes with old magazines, found this article in a > >1995 edition of Muzik with C2 compiling some interesting bits: > > > >http://www.dinamicas.art.br/blog/2007/06/fitinha-do-carl-craig/ > > > >Cheers > > > >G > > > >-- > > > >Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil > >__ > > > > -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __
Fw: (313) LA this weekend: John Tejada & Joel Mull; DJ Pierre & Doc Martin
Actually I kind of like that Friday lineup with my friends Mochipet and Tejada too :) fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) LA this weekend: John Tejada & Joel Mull; DJ Pierre & Doc Martin Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:20:33 -0700 A couple of good gigs this weekend of possible interest to any 313'ers visiting LA (or the 2 or 3 of us that live here): Friday June 29th Codec by Compression + Droidbehavior + Metastar Room 1: hosted by Compression:::Techno.n.sh_t Joel Mull live PA [Inside, Railyard, Drumcode; Sweden] John Tejada [Palette, Pokerflat; LA] Pan/Tone [Substatic, Trapez; Germany] Room 2: hosted by Droid + smog:::Dubstep.Core.IDM.Electro Baseck [Addict, Darkmatter] Derek Michael live PA [Windsor, CA/LA - Detroit Underground] Mochipet live PA [Bpitch, Tigerbeat6, Daly City Rec.; SF] Knifedreams + DLX + Showguns [Sub Fm, Smog, Pure Filth] Robtronik [Compression] 9pm - late | $20 w/out VIP | 21+ located: The Larchmont @ 5657 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.compressionla.com/ --- Saturday June 30th Sublevel 20 year anniversary of Acid House Doc Martin DJ Pierre $20 | tickets available at http://www.sublevelcalifornia.com/sublevel/ news.php (323) 960-4400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sublevelcalifornia.com/ http://www.sublevelcalifornia.com/sublevel/news.php (I think this one has Phred twitching over the "Buy" button for a PDX- LAX plane ticket ;) ) - Greg
