Re: (313) Mitch Walcott - Titan
I listened to this a couple of years ago when Mitch had it as a free download from his website, enjoyed it then and I am enjoying now. Dimitri those remixes are pretty good, like most of your music I have heard they would suit a nice extended 3 deck mix. Mike. On Nov 7, 2007 6:37 AM, Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Crikey D, that's a bit gushing - I wouldn't say I'd got the finest ears, > > biggest mouth maybe :) > > Crikey he he , just my perso opinion, no seriously, regarding the music from > Dust and DS93, I don''t lie saying you got some fine ears ... > > > > Mitch for the experimental/ambient side and myself for a more techy trip. > > I'll feedback when we've fired it up on the studio speakers, keep going > > fella, I'm enjoying the stuff you are doing. > > Much respect for this ! > > Talk to you soon ! > > Peace > Dimitri > > > -- > Dimitri Pike > http://wildtek.free.fr > http://www.myspace.com/wildtek >
Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think
HOWEVER, broken beats never was a genre - was never intended to be a genre broken beats was how you played it - Y'know that's how I've always viewed "detroit" when used as a genre ie. it isn't, it's more an approach/attitude: house, disco, italo, detroit techno, electro etc etc Sorry to bring this back on topic :) robin...
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On Nov 9, 2007 11:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you want ground breaking? you know it's ground breaking when you struggle > to find another track to follow it and sound as good > ran into that last night while putting together some records > Al Green "Full of Fire" - just couldn't find another track that stood up > against it > > 1976 blam! that sh*t is ridiculous, i have it packed for my gig tonight already! tom
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I once got asked for 'bass and drum' by an American customer when I worked in a record shop - I played him a No U-Turn comp and he didn't like it cos it was too hard, so I then played him Roni Size's New Forms. That was too hard also, so I tried a Good Looking comp. Even that was too hard!He eventually went away with The K & D Sessions, still convinced that he'd bought some drum n bass, despite my protestations Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2007 16:18 To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; fab. Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think oh that sort of thing? I thought we were talking about some weirder pitched down d&b experiment that lived a short life. MEK "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/09/2007 10:11:02 AM: > On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > hmm, that sounds good actually - any suggestions? > > Kruder and Dorfmeister - The K&D Sessions. > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > aim -> mkbatwerk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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oh that sort of thing? I thought we were talking about some weirder pitched down d&b experiment that lived a short life. MEK "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/09/2007 10:11:02 AM: > On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > hmm, that sounds good actually - any suggestions? > > Kruder and Dorfmeister - The K&D Sessions. > > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > aim -> mkbatwerk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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> > >> I've just played them both of these back to back and Black Secret > > >> sounds more modern than the stuff on Untrue, with basically is one > > >> idea for 45+ minutes, BST kicks its sorry ass if you ask me. > > > > > > but man, comparing the two straight up is just not what its all about! > > > > I think it's a fair call, one's ground break and one isn't. > > so only groundbreaking music is worth listening to? how does that make > any sense? i mean, you know i love that mark archer record, but what > is groundbreaking about it? absolutely nothing! its just good sh*t. you want ground breaking? you know it's ground breaking when you struggle to find another track to follow it and sound as good ran into that last night while putting together some records Al Green "Full of Fire" - just couldn't find another track that stood up against it 1976 blam! MEK
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On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm, that sounds good actually - any suggestions? Kruder and Dorfmeister - The K&D Sessions. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/09/2007 01:54:43 AM: > dnb-ish trip hop that used to come out on > austrian compilations back in the early nineties hmm, that sounds good actually - any suggestions? > i bet this dubstep thing will be off the radar in 18 months, just like what > happened to the ex-new thing, broken beats. speak for yourself mate - I'm still digging the broken beats HOWEVER, broken beats never was a genre - was never intended to be a genre broken beats was how you played it - techno, jazz, house, drum & bass, funk/R&B, Afro/Latin, dubstep, etc. it's all in the mix some people just got it mixed up and thought "broken beat" was a genre it's not and never is if you're doing it right funny how the dance music press (that we all disdain) spits out hype and bullsh!t and no matter how much you try to ignore it, it still filters down infiltrating how and what we think MEK
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On Nov 9, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Martin Dust wrote: And for my punishment the job was Aly and AJ, from the Disney Channel - if you wanna hear some dark sh1t, you should try it for 8hrs :) Free Association Theatre: One night I was driving home from work and scanning the AM station for random stuff. I hit Radio Disney and they were using Front 242 (Junkdrome or Crapage, I think) for a music bumper. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OK, I think we've beaten this horse so much it's protruding out of the other side of the earth now, so I'm out the door. ... Taking The Wire with me: MM and Sonny Simons ... Educational. Wishing you a *cool* weekend folks. Ken -Original Message- From: Alan Heneghan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2007 15:46 To: Martin Dust; Robert Taylor Cc: Emile Facey; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think Nice enough, but too garridgy for my taste. > From: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:03:47 + > To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Emile Facey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, kent williams > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think > > > On 9 Nov 2007, at 12:22, Robert Taylor wrote: > >> It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the >> shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs > > Nice drop kick Rob :) We'll it is Friday I guess... > > m
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Nice enough, but too garridgy for my taste. > From: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:03:47 + > To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Emile Facey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think > > > On 9 Nov 2007, at 12:22, Robert Taylor wrote: > >> It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the >> shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs > > Nice drop kick Rob :) We'll it is Friday I guess... > > m
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That's not strictly true but I can't be arsed to map the early days of Dubstep out again :) i think youre going to have to do it man, since i was buying the records in 00-02 when the name was first being used. any timeline that includes anything outside of 2-step in its lineage is incorrect, and is likely on some revisionist history business. There's a early Radio 1 interview kicking around that does a good job, if you don't have it I'll dig it you up. I've just played them both of these back to back and Black Secret sounds more modern than the stuff on Untrue, with basically is one idea for 45+ minutes, BST kicks its sorry ass if you ask me. but man, comparing the two straight up is just not what its all about! I think it's a fair call, one's ground break and one isn't. so only groundbreaking music is worth listening to? how does that make any sense? i mean, you know i love that mark archer record, but what is groundbreaking about it? absolutely nothing! its just good sh*t. Not what I was inferring and I'd agree not every record is nor needs to ground breaking, I was reflecting back on K's comment and I stand by that statement tho, one changed the way people think/work, the other just smells of Pledge™ Tom some of those sample have been used so much their udders are bleeding, even the stuff he's lifted from the More Rockers Crew has been done to death. and the 808 and 909 have been used 100 million times more than any sample from anything. does it make them less effective? 1000 bad uses of a sample dont make one good one any less good. Out of context, but the sample use is just corn ball to me, all it was missing was dolphins and whale song ;) It's defo not the fault of anyone, he's made an album and he loves it and stands by it, nothing more you can ask and if he's like me he won't give a flying crap what anyone else says and that's the way it should be. I'm just trying to avoid doing an edit job :) haha. And for my punishment the job was Aly and AJ, from the Disney Channel - if you wanna hear some dark sh1t, you should try it for 8hrs :) m
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On Nov 8, 2007 10:09 AM, Nick Breinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this has been my impression of the new record. it's the same thing > for 45 minutes that I bought before. a few bright moments spoiled by > the re-use of most of the sounds from the last record and the re-use > of an entire idea. i was definitely hoping for a little more > progression in his style. personally it's just a little boring to me. ?!?! its so completely different from the last album. i just dont know what to say about that, really. > i'm also in the darker/heavier camp. anstam, combat recordings, > scorn, vex'd etc. that's what i'm diggin way more than the garage > leaning tracks i've heard. just my personal inclination. see, dark and heavy dont mean anything to me. i have so much dark and heavy music, i just dont need any more. in fact, i am of the opinion that dark and heavy music is exactly the easiest thing for people to make since it outnumbers more soulful and emotional sounding music 100 to 1. On Nov 8, 2007 10:18 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nah, at the very beginning, dubstep was just 2-step minus the vocals > > and adding on a bunch of echo and more dubwise bass. it was only after > > it got attacked by the "garage outsiders" that it became what it is > > now. in fact, i think im gonna have to do a mix of those old records, > > theyre still so good and entertaining and many of them would fit in > > just fine with broken beats, Recloose, Carl Craig, etc. at least thats > > what i used to mix them up with! > > That's not strictly true but I can't be arsed to map the early days > of Dubstep out again :) i think youre going to have to do it man, since i was buying the records in 00-02 when the name was first being used. any timeline that includes anything outside of 2-step in its lineage is incorrect, and is likely on some revisionist history business. > >> I've just played them both of these back to back and Black Secret > >> sounds more modern than the stuff on Untrue, with basically is one > >> idea for 45+ minutes, BST kicks its sorry ass if you ask me. > > > > but man, comparing the two straight up is just not what its all about! > > I think it's a fair call, one's ground break and one isn't. so only groundbreaking music is worth listening to? how does that make any sense? i mean, you know i love that mark archer record, but what is groundbreaking about it? absolutely nothing! its just good sh*t. > Tom some of those sample have been used so much their udders are > bleeding, even the stuff he's lifted from the More Rockers Crew has > been done to death. and the 808 and 909 have been used 100 million times more than any sample from anything. does it make them less effective? 1000 bad uses of a sample dont make one good one any less good. > It's defo not the fault of anyone, he's made an album and he loves it > and stands by it, nothing more you can ask and if he's like me he > won't give a flying crap what anyone else says and that's the way it > should be. I'm just trying to avoid doing an edit job :) haha. On Nov 8, 2007 11:02 AM, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Burial got a lot of exposure because he produced an album. Individual tracks > on EPs here > and there by artists already mentioned will never get the same amount of > impact, especially > on places like Pitchfork or even the Wire which still get excited by the old > format. making entire albums of good material that flow and work well together is always more interesting to me than EPs or 12"s, mainly because they are so infrequent. why is it an "old format"? technically, EPs and singles are far older! a good album has much more space for someone to work with. most people can't do it very well, especially in "dance" music. Burial has done it twice in the space of one year. that is nearly incredible. On Nov 9, 2007 2:54 AM, fab. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what's new about slowed down ukgarage with muted sound effects and samples > of rainfall? sounds like moody garage for heartbroken croydon chavs to me. > it's even got the helium vocals for crying out loud! > i found it very boring and flat. nothing new about it, just something very excellent about it. good music is always new! and flat and boring? thats exactly the opposite of what i would say about this album in particular. i mean, i just cant see how someone puts that album on and that is the conclusion they come to. i can think of any number of criticisms that might make some sense, but those arent it. > i bet this dubstep thing will be off the radar in 18 months, just like what > happened to the ex-new thing, broken beats. broken beats existed before there was a "scene" for it, and it still exists to this day. just because *you* arent paying attention to it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. dubstep is 7 years old. it may have sucked for more of that than it was good, but so what? > new music is out there ppl but most of you disdain it.. su
(313) Et Tu Brute
This came unexpected o_o http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=62317 Sounding good from the samples! Antonio
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On 9 Nov 2007, at 12:22, Robert Taylor wrote: It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs Nice drop kick Rob :) We'll it is Friday I guess... m
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- Original Message - From: Robert Taylor To: Odeluga, Ken ; Nick Breinich ; list 313 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think I'm not that down with Burial either - it's OK - nothing offensive - I just don't see what the fuss about it is - it's not really dubstep either, it's coffeestep - it's not 'hard' enough for me - I prefer the bumrattling basslines of DMZ releases myself I really liked the first album but based on a few listens to the clips last night I decided I didn't really need the second one that badly. I'll still probably buy it, because there were a few tracks that sounded pretty sweet to me, but it just didn't feel terribly essential next to the first album. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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It's not my shelf! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2007 12:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think Is it a big shelf you have there Rob? > It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the > shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 November 2007 16:32 > To: kent williams > Cc: list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think > > I think you're being a bit hard on yourself here Kent, Burial is just > as popular with dubstep/garage heads here as it is with people who > don't follow the scene from what I can tell, as Toby pointed out the > album helped Burial cross over. > > > On 8 Nov 2007, at 15:57, kent williams wrote: > >> Interesting to watch a discussion like this blow up. I see >> everyone's > >> points in the whole matter. I think I would react differently if I'd >> grown up in the UK and heard more of the good and the bad, and been >> exposed to the culture surrounding various genres, I'd hear the music >> differently. >> >> The context in the US is different. Unless you spend a lot of time >> watching the UK scene, you only hear what bubbles to the top of the >> pile. What I find interesting is how many Indie rock types in the US >> picked up on Burial. Probably looks like poor misguided Yanks >> getting > >> it wrong again to people in the UK. OTOH to us, it looks like you >> drive on the wrong side of the road and add an extra syllable to >> aluminum to sound posh. >> > > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the > use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you > have received this email in error, please notify > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English > law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and > Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > ## > ### > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think
Is it a big shelf you have there Rob? > It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the > shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 November 2007 16:32 > To: kent williams > Cc: list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think > > I think you're being a bit hard on yourself here Kent, Burial is just as > popular with dubstep/garage heads here as it is with people who don't > follow the scene from what I can tell, as Toby pointed out the album > helped Burial cross over. > > > On 8 Nov 2007, at 15:57, kent williams wrote: > >> Interesting to watch a discussion like this blow up. I see everyone's > >> points in the whole matter. I think I would react differently if I'd >> grown up in the UK and heard more of the good and the bad, and been >> exposed to the culture surrounding various genres, I'd hear the music >> differently. >> >> The context in the US is different. Unless you spend a lot of time >> watching the UK scene, you only hear what bubbles to the top of the >> pile. What I find interesting is how many Indie rock types in the US >> picked up on Burial. Probably looks like poor misguided Yanks getting > >> it wrong again to people in the UK. OTOH to us, it looks like you >> drive on the wrong side of the road and add an extra syllable to >> aluminum to sound posh. >> > > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, > is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and > Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > # >
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It's middle-class Guardian-reading electronic music - it'll go on the shelf with all those Zero 7 and Massive Attack CDs Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2007 16:32 To: kent williams Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think I think you're being a bit hard on yourself here Kent, Burial is just as popular with dubstep/garage heads here as it is with people who don't follow the scene from what I can tell, as Toby pointed out the album helped Burial cross over. On 8 Nov 2007, at 15:57, kent williams wrote: > Interesting to watch a discussion like this blow up. I see everyone's > points in the whole matter. I think I would react differently if I'd > grown up in the UK and heard more of the good and the bad, and been > exposed to the culture surrounding various genres, I'd hear the music > differently. > > The context in the US is different. Unless you spend a lot of time > watching the UK scene, you only hear what bubbles to the top of the > pile. What I find interesting is how many Indie rock types in the US > picked up on Burial. Probably looks like poor misguided Yanks getting > it wrong again to people in the UK. OTOH to us, it looks like you > drive on the wrong side of the road and add an extra syllable to > aluminum to sound posh. > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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I'm not that down with Burial either - it's OK - nothing offensive - I just don't see what the fuss about it is - it's not really dubstep either, it's coffeestep - it's not 'hard' enough for me - I prefer the bumrattling basslines of DMZ releases myself Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2007 15:27 To: Nick Breinich; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think Dunno what camp I'm digging, but I like the Rustie record, and Loefah and mrk1 stuff for e.g. I don't see any consistency with the above and the new Burial, underlining (as if it's necessary, we all know this) how subjective our choices are, I think ... Especially as some people say it isn't a progression from the last Burial LP which I really couldn't get along with, but many loved. Go figure. Or maybe just like what you like and don't worry about it. -Original Message- From: Nick Breinich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2007 15:10 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think this has been my impression of the new record. it's the same thing for 45 minutes that I bought before. a few bright moments spoiled by the re-use of most of the sounds from the last record and the re-use of an entire idea. i was definitely hoping for a little more progression in his style. personally it's just a little boring to me. i'm also in the darker/heavier camp. anstam, combat recordings, scorn, vex'd etc. that's what i'm diggin way more than the garage leaning tracks i've heard. just my personal inclination. On Nov 8, 2007 9:40 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...than the stuff on Untrue, with basically is one > idea for 45+ minutes # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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- Original Message - From: Emile Facey To: fab. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think On 9 Nov 2007, at 07:54, fab. wrote: > sounds like moody garage for heartbroken croydon chavs to me. If the kids around here were listening to anything as cool as Burial I'd be very happy, it's mostly really bad chart R&B. Or bad drum n' bass or bad shouty hip hop. Hideous 109 speaker phone vibes. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
(313) Dubstep mix
While dubstep seams to be a hot subject on 313 at the moment, I just recorded a mix of mostly dubstep, with some other duby music added. Also featuring 2 tracks from the "controversial" new Burial album :) http://www.octex.si/audio/Octex-MidnightSelection.mp3 Jernej www.octex.si
Re: (313) whachu listening foo
Since you mention it, I got a bunch of new stuff yesterday, and some of this stuff at the top sounds very 'new' to my ears, albeit very synthetic hip hop. FLYING LOTUS: RESET EP [Warp] FLYING LOTUS: 1983 (Plug Research US) -Thanks to Tom for tip. Severely off-kilter down tempo beats VARIOUS: Beat Dimensions Vol 1 (Rush Hour Holland) -Thanks to Carlos for the tip - finally got around to picking it up. Load of stupidly good broken/downtempo beats from Dimlite, Cinnaman, Aardvark and many more. The Aardvark track 'Nose' sounds s stupidly good GASLAMP KILLERS, The/DAEDELUS/DIMLITE/FLYING LOTUS/BLANK BLUE/ADVENTURE TIME/DNTEL/THE LIFE FORCE TRIO: Echo Expansion (Aim Belgium) -More Dimlite/Flying Lotus stuff. There's three or four tracks on this that sound ridiculous DJ MINX/REGGIE DOKES/SMITH/HALL/BLACK ART MUSIC: Detroit Beatdown Volume 2: EP 1 (Third Ear) -Late GESCOM: A1-B1 (Skam) GESCOM: C1-D1 (Skam) -Both sounding varied and good LEROSA: Loss (D1) -I want the new ones but wanted this one more ATHEUS: Inchain FX (Millions Of Moments Germany) -More dubby BC stuff, but this was sounding particularly nice. I wanted the Mike Huckaby stuff too, but this just sounded better TRAXX/JAMES T COTTON/D MARC CANTU/MELVIN OLIPHANT: X2 Photon (MOS Holland) -The Melvin Oliphant (Traxx) cut is sick VOGEL, Cristian: The Never Engine (Tresor Germany) -Sounding wonky a la mid-90s Tresor output. Bring back the Blue Arsed Fly! Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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On 9 Nov 2007, at 07:54, fab. wrote: sounds like moody garage for heartbroken croydon chavs to me. If the kids around here were listening to anything as cool as Burial I'd be very happy, it's mostly really bad chart R&B.
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Ah. Well I took that to mean as in 'newly released' rather than a 'new paradigm' or anything like that. I could be wrong, but from the feel I get from Kent's original post, I think he was trying to allude that his topic was a diversion from the last cantankerous fight we had on here ... -Original Message- From: Matthew Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2007 08:24 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: fab.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:02, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Hmm. I don't think anyone has actually said it's new! Not like, the subject line of the thread or anything ;)
(313) whachu listening foo
loving this Mark Broom mix this morning. http://kinetic-am.com/mixe/marc_broom_Stripped_Shizzle_Mix.zip a solid blend of hard minimal, tasteful booty and classix IMO. He was kind of boring when I saw him in Detroit a few years ago but it sounds like he's got a bit of funk infusion going on now. Stoked for DeepChord live at Berghain Saturday. Perchance a 313er will be present?
Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think
On Nov 9, 2007, at 3:02, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Hmm. I don't think anyone has actually said it's new! Not like, the subject line of the thread or anything ;)
RE: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think
Hmm. I don't think anyone has actually said it's new! -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2007 07:55 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think yeah, i can't belive this album is getting championed as "new music"for me there is nothing fresh and innovative in this album nor dubstep in general. what's new about slowed down ukgarage with muted sound effects and samples of rainfall? sounds like moody garage for heartbroken croydon chavs to me. it's even got the helium vocals for crying out loud! i found it very boring and flat. and dubstep just sounds like the dnb-ish trip hop that used to come out on austrian compilations back in the early nineties - and there is nothing new about that. i bet this dubstep thing will be off the radar in 18 months, just like what happened to the ex-new thing, broken beats. new music is out there ppl but most of you disdain it.. f. - Original Message - From: "Emile Facey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT -- something actually new, I think > There's nothing like Burial to divide a group, people seem to > absolutely > love it or just don' get it at all. Personally I'm with Martin all the > way here, give me some Scorn any day, Mick Harris has been doing it since > '91. > > > On 8 Nov 2007, at 11:51, Martin Dust wrote: > >> >> On 8 Nov 2007, at 11:24, Odeluga, Ken wrote: >> >>> But what about the 'garagey' trimmings of the latest Burial offering >>> then ...? >>> >> >> Not feeling it at all Ken and it's not getting much play in the >> studio >> at all, to my ears, it just sounds really old and a step backwards into >> a sound that Dubstep was trying to move away from but it seems to have >> fallen into a trap of it's own making. >> >> I much prefer Scorn over Burial... >> >> m >> > >
