Re: (313) tonight in detroit: KDJ, Andrés, R E L A X E R - $5
just gotta say that in spite of KDJ playing some good funk and rare groove until 3 he then put a cd on for 30 mins then Andres came back, turned the volume up beyond ear bleeding and proceeded to clear the house by 3:45. good new stuff from Andres coming, but a lousy party... /0 wrote: Saturday September 6, 2008 100 Limousines Presents: SUPERNATURE A Mahogani Music Showcase Featuring: KDJ (Mahogani Music, Peacefrog, Planet E, etc.) Andrés aka DJ Dez (Mahogani Music, Slum Village) R E L A X E R (Soft-Curls, Disco.Secret) Elements Gallery 2125 Michigan Ave. Detroit Five Dollars - Adults Only *Sound provided by Klipsch Audio Technologies
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
The mixture of traditional djing and the producer activities points to the future, i think. But in one hand we have the hysterical girl talk thing, in the other the hospital food richie's stuff. I wanna find a compulsive knob twister doing this thing good. There's a lot of baile funk players here, in brazil, doing nice stuff with laptops, midi, mpc and traditional tunes inside an act. Kw On Sep 7, 2008, at 11:09 PM, /0 wrote: within this context, I don't think that things benefit from micro- loop sampling, or production decisions made with DJing in mind. DJ sets just don't seem to be the series of little trips that they used to be. maybe I'm just used to it all. - Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list opinion? On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:28 PM, /0 wrote: its just that they've defeated the song structure through all of this micro-DJing BS. 30 seconds into the set, your journey is over. - Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd scream from time to time. It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the people into the playing. Kw On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin shows a profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting. I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time. Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even four fragments looped at the same time. The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going to mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy act. Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there are few more gigs to come. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as well and exactly due to the same reasons. --- Interesting little video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi c m
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
within this context, I don't think that things benefit from micro-loop sampling, or production decisions made with DJing in mind. DJ sets just don't seem to be the series of little trips that they used to be. maybe I'm just used to it all. - Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list opinion? On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:28 PM, /0 wrote: its just that they've defeated the song structure through all of this micro-DJing BS. 30 seconds into the set, your journey is over. - Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd scream from time to time. It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the people into the playing. Kw On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin shows a profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting. I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time. Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even four fragments looped at the same time. The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going to mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy act. Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there are few more gigs to come. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as well and exactly due to the same reasons. --- Interesting little video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi c m
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list opinion? On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:28 PM, /0 wrote: its just that they've defeated the song structure through all of this micro-DJing BS. 30 seconds into the set, your journey is over. - Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd scream from time to time. It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the people into the playing. Kw On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin shows a profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting. I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time. Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even four fragments looped at the same time. The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going to mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy act. Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there are few more gigs to come. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as well and exactly due to the same reasons. --- Interesting little video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi c m
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
its just that they've defeated the song structure through all of this micro-DJing BS. 30 seconds into the set, your journey is over. - Original Message - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd scream from time to time. It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the people into the playing. Kw On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin shows a profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting. I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time. Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even four fragments looped at the same time. The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going to mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy act. Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there are few more gigs to come. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as well and exactly due to the same reasons. --- Interesting little video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi c m
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup
Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd scream from time to time. It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the people into the playing. Kw On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin shows a profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting. I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time. Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even four fragments looped at the same time. The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going to mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy act. Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there are few more gigs to come. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as well and exactly due to the same reasons. --- Interesting little video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi c m
Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
Thanks for posting Andy! This is some great stuff. P. On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andy Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mad Mike was in New Zealand with UR's DJ Skurge last week to do some > community work with at risk youth, including a lunchtime show for high > school kids! > > Mike was interviewed on state-owned broadcaster Radio New Zealand National > by Kim Hill, who's an old school Barbara Walters-kinda journalist. Plenty > of good talk on Mojo, car racing etc.: > > http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20080906-1010-Playing_Favourites_with_Mad_Mike_Banks-048.mp3 > > (Note that the handful of musical tracks played during the interview have > been cut out because they're too cheap to pay the licensing fee for 'em) > > -- -- Southern Outpost Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin http://www.southernoutpost.com --
(313) Mad Mike interview
Mad Mike was in New Zealand with UR's DJ Skurge last week to do some community work with at risk youth, including a lunchtime show for high school kids! Mike was interviewed on state-owned broadcaster Radio New Zealand National by Kim Hill, who's an old school Barbara Walters-kinda journalist. Plenty of good talk on Mojo, car racing etc.: http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20080906-1010-Playing_Favourites_with_Mad_Mike_Banks-048.mp3 (Note that the handful of musical tracks played during the interview have been cut out because they're too cheap to pay the licensing fee for 'em)
Re: (313) Carl Craig & Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3
It hasn't been released, so where are you listening to it? On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:41 AM, P.A. Keur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don`t know what the original sounds like since I have never listened > to Ravel. In my opinion Carl Craig & Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed > Vol. 3 is a very poor release. The music simply hurts my ears. It is > wy below par for Carl as well as Moritz. I was really looking > forward to this release, but I got very disappointed. Structure > totally got lost and the samples from the original collide head on > with the music they have added to it. Not my cuppa tea. > > Peter >
Re: (313) Carl Craig & Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3
I don`t know what the original sounds like since I have never listened to Ravel. In my opinion Carl Craig & Moritz Von Oswald - Recomposed Vol. 3 is a very poor release. The music simply hurts my ears. It is wy below par for Carl as well as Moritz. I was really looking forward to this release, but I got very disappointed. Structure totally got lost and the samples from the original collide head on with the music they have added to it. Not my cuppa tea. Peter On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:20 PM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel really strange listening to this. I have a half dozen different > vinyl recordings of Le Sacre (as my composer mother & conductor dad > called it around the house) at least 3 CDs and a battered cassette of > my dad conducting it with the Cedar Rapids Symphony. That was the > first piece of classical music I really connected to emotionally, and > I know it like a Public Enemy fan knows "It Takes a Nation of > Millions ..." > > As a result I can't listen to your version with open ears -- it sounds > truncated and weird to me. I can't even judge whether your version > succeeds as a piece of art -- my personal associations with the > orignal are too strong. > > I hope that maybe it will spur a few techno heads to check out the > original. Now that's what I call OG techno! > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Kevin Reynolds > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I feel that there is a huge connection between western classical music and >> detroit electronic music, no doubt. I want to hear more artists finding >> this link. >> >> I plan to release the song on vinyl soon. You can hear it on my myspace for >> the time being. >> >> www.myspace.com/kevinreynoldsdetroit >> >
