(313) The Vault - August 26, 2009 feat. Anton Banks
Show archives are available online. To get to them, visit www.AntonBanks.com and click on "Archives". Planned guests for the next few weeks: September 9, 2009 - Oscilator Gear aka El Bosco & David Noir (Alternance Records) September 23, 2009 - Jeff Milligan (Converge Bookings, Revolver, Poker Flat) October 7, 2009 - Titonton Duvanté (Converge Bookings, 7th City, Metamorphic) October 21, 2009 - 6th Annual Halloween show TBD - DJ Gyle (Kult Records) CLICK THE LINK TO HEAR THE SHOW http://www.antonbanks.com/audio/the_vault_08-26-09.mp3 Tracklist for the show: Bluepulp, Panta v2, Pertin_nce Drivetrain, Angel, Yore Funk D'Void & Sian, A Raven Wheeling Overhead (Vocal Mix), Soma Alexander Robotnick, Dance Boy Dance, Yellow Productions Telex, Moscow Disko, Rare 12" Versions, Unknown "TTT700" Adam Beyer, Pump 2, Pump EP, Drumcode ### Mix By DJ Anton Banks Victor Martinez, Morph, Newrhythmic Records Orphx, Cracktest, Sonic Groove Planetary Assault Systems, Whoodoo, Osgut Ton Reeko, Psychiatric Hospital 1, Mental Disorder Hiroaki Izuka, Gold, Arms Records Ian Lehman, Empty Suit, Mafia Records Joel Mull & Adam Beyer, Remainings II, Drumcode El Bosco, M Position, Alternance Luka Baumann, Volvere, Audio Assault Victor Martinez, Mutually Assured Destruction, Psychoskunk Recordings Asagaoaudio, Ring and Portrait (Bas Mooy remix), AN Records Darren Jones, Swarm, Newrhythmic Records Dj 3000, Marauder, Motech Michaeiangelo, Transmutate, Labrynth Phase, Fragmenta, Token Records A Paul, CMYK, Naked Lunch Records Eric Sneo, Tanz Der Familie, Beatdisaster Records Mhonolink, Fetish (Vincent De Wit remix), Audio Assault The Advent, Hybridize, Kombination Research Doktrin, Lilium, Limetree Eric Sneo & Felix Krocher, Breath of Life, Beatdisaster Records Planetary Assault Systems, Mark Me, Osgut Ton Digital Network, Out Of the Office (Microplex remix), Osgut Ton Sysex, Particles of Life, Naked Lunch Records ### Recloose, Four Ways Of Saying Goodbye, Spelunking, Planet-E Enjoy, Anton --- Click for info about the show: www.antonbanks.com/bio.html *** I appreciate all promotional music sent to me and will never sell any of it online or anywhere else. All promotional material sent to me is aired on my show as well as used in my DJ sets when I play out.
(313) 9/9/99
Today is the 10th anniversary of Lynn Hasty's 9-9-99 Public Space event at the Park Plaza hotel in LA, featuring Detroit's 7th City label. Tempus fugit, eh? It was a Thursday night. The lineup was: John Tejada (DJ) DBX (Dan Bell) (live) Claude Young (DJ) Anthony "Shake" Shakir (live) John Tejada (finishing the night by playing a DAT of his then-new tracks) One of the most amazing nights of Techno I've ever been witness to. The kicker? All of 60-odd people showed up. Lynn (who is John Tejada's fiancée) gave up on putting on gigs shortly thereafter. With a turnout like that, who could blame her? From the (313) archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/313@hyperreal.org/msg92258.html http://www.mail-archive.com/313@hyperreal.org/msg91993.html
(313) New Music
New Floating Points on Eglo. You picked up 'You love me like this' right? Rainer Truby/MCDE thing - To know you. Wicked heartfelt sounding vocal. Pepe Bradock - Path of Most Resistance, new one from him sounding very good (more melodic than experimental) Shake's been busy: http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php? item=50879, Track 3 vv nice from clips. Also a Trusme remix of 'Arise' on the way too. OK, I'm only partially off-topic. :) In terms of mixes, feeling this one by Red D. http://infinitestatemachine.com/2009/08/10/guest-mix-red-d-of-we-play-house-recordings/ robin...
Re: (313) Playing In China
Well said Martin, I completely agree with your stance when framed this way. I didn't agree with the framing of the problem as something to do with ex-pats and "rich" people, since you may play for those sorts in any city. It seemed to be framing the issue as a problem with the audience, or lack of an "authentic" audience. I have a few friends in China and I have a few customers (collectors of rare 78rpm records) in China and Taiwan. I've got a few friends that have traveled there extensively and a few who lived there for a few years. There used to be a Chinese guy on the CBS forum. Repeatedly mentioning whatever experience Surgeon had in a big club in Shanghai is pretty inane. It's just one man's experience, and frankly it's no surprise that playing in a big club in a big city for a big paycheck could result in a crowd full of rich people and ex-pats. Nobody here seems to have any real experience in China, so while it's fair to take a principled stance against the gov't according to what you've learned through various media, and to put some stock in what you've heard of Surgeon's experience, it only goes "so far" in giving you an informed opinion and conception. Not very far. I have as many problems with the Chinese gov't as you, and certainly playing a high-profile gig for a random crowd (ie going there to do business) could be construed as an endorsement or at least as a blind eye. I don't play many of those shows in the first place. It's not hard to imagine playing some off-the-radar party for a few fans and genuinely interested people. That's mostly what I play anyway. JT On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Martin Dust wrote: > > On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:20, David Powers wrote: > >> I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as >> China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all! >> >> ~David > > You could but I have even greater difficulty with the Chinese Government: > > 1. The lack of free speech and free thinking: > http://www.hrichina.org/public/index > > 2. It's active use of apartheid systems. > > 3. It's treatment of Tibet. > > 4. It's human rights record. > > For myself, I just could not bring myself to support any of that in any way, > shape or form. And where I can't avoid it (iPod/Laptop/TV) I give money to > http://www.plan-uk.org/ and have done for 10yrs, we support a couple of > people in China with a plan for people to work their way out of poverty - I > even had problems with that at one stage because I was worried that it was > patronising. I find their letters heart breaking and the fact that I have to > watch what I'm saying or sending in my letters makes he even more angry. > > It's very difficult/complex and I don't think I explained myself well enough > yesterday but I really and honestly don't want a cheap holiday in other > peoples misery nor do I want to play only to the expats and elite who can > afford it, in my heart of hearts I know that it's not right. > > m >
(313) 2562 FACT mix
One of my favorite current producers, Dave Huismans aka 2562 does a mix for FACT... http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3392&Itemid=98 Detroit connection -- 2nd track Shake's remix of Telex "Raised by Snakes"
Re: (313) OT: Jeff Mills in Chicago 16-10-2009
Haha, in what universe is this OT? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Martijn de Blaauw wrote: > Found this in my e-mail this morning...for those in the neighbourhood:-) > > Friday 16 October 2009 at 10:00pm > > Axis Records presents 'And What About The Truth' ... > JEFF MILLS > COMMON FACTOR > TYREL WILLIAMS > Tickets: $15 before midnight, > $20 after midnight > 21 & over > Doors: 10pm / Show: 10pm > > Smart Bar > 3730 N. Clark St. > Chicago, IL, Chicago 60613 > United States > Tel: 773-549-0203 > Web: www.smartbarchicago.com > > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] > Verzonden: woensdag 9 september 2009 2:06 > Aan: 313@hyperreal.org > Onderwerp: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring > > Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub > supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were > with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so > many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it > mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not > intended) they're covering? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede > kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij > doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor > de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. >
Re: (313) beatportal "20 tracks every techno fan should know"
How do we get started? List titles? Ideas For Lists? Putting Kent in charge? ;) m
Re: (313) Playing In China
But yeah BNP on Question Time on a TV near you. I hope they show themselves to be the bafoons they are but no doubt will still get some sympathy/publicity. Because I support free speech, I don't support the "no platform" stance. In Sheffield for example we gave the BNP enough space and rope to hang themselves, which they did but Nick Griffin is no local organiser and he's very good in public. People need to be level headed and show them up for what they really are rather than taking the angry approach. There's enough stuff in that guys history to sink them but I fear for a short while they will continue to get some wins as they are playing on the working classes fears and this government has let those people down badly. m
Re: (313) Playing In China
Inspiring one person can make a world of difference - Tiannamen square. But how could you (or the collective we rather) allow people to listen music they like. Artists could tour and still be against the govt maybe even dontate profits to the people able to make a difference in the host nation. I truly believe music can elicit change so if discussion can be had here it would be good. But yeah BNP on Question Time on a TV near you. I hope they show themselves to be the bafoons they are but no doubt will still get some sympathy/publicity. Ravinder. 2009/9/9 Martin Dust : > > On 9 Sep 2009, at 10:05, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > >> Most here agree with your point of view Martin. >> >> The differences are all in the way we choose to handle it, that's all. > > I know that one person saying NO may not make a difference but I still > believe in "people" power, I really do. > > >> You've got some admirable stuff going on with respect to trying to make a >> difference to the lives of a few people there. >> That's probably the most that we as individuals could hope to achieve: the >> fact that you're achieving that is the most important point in my book. > > I think you have to try, give people a chance and do what we can. > > >> Disclaimer to the Off Topic Po lease: >> This has been off topic I know - but we're discussing this because it's a >> part of the discussion about artistic freedom and how political regimes can >> have an impact on that. > > Yes, thanks list but I feel techno and music has to get more political right > now, for UK listers the BNP are now in Europe and sitting on top of 2.4m > worth of funding - What happened? > > > m > > >
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
On 9 Sep 2009, at 10:17, Placid wrote: Martin Dust wrote: but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. I'm up for it Paul, just point out the flaws, easy now... m Martin.. not having a dig at all... sorry if it came across that way personally not a huge fan of beatport, ive never used it...but lots of people do... Agree with all that you've said 100% Cool mate, just wanted to be clear that I'm not dissing the idea. We don't use Beatport because it's s slow and throws lots of script errors but I love the idea of getting some charts sorted for people to check out. There's a lot of good taste makers on this list and we should put that to good use :) m
Re: (313) Playing In China
On 9 Sep 2009, at 10:05, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Most here agree with your point of view Martin. The differences are all in the way we choose to handle it, that's all. I know that one person saying NO may not make a difference but I still believe in "people" power, I really do. You've got some admirable stuff going on with respect to trying to make a difference to the lives of a few people there. That's probably the most that we as individuals could hope to achieve: the fact that you're achieving that is the most important point in my book. I think you have to try, give people a chance and do what we can. Disclaimer to the Off Topic Po lease: This has been off topic I know - but we're discussing this because it's a part of the discussion about artistic freedom and how political regimes can have an impact on that. Yes, thanks list but I feel techno and music has to get more political right now, for UK listers the BNP are now in Europe and sitting on top of 2.4m worth of funding - What happened? m
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Sound good so far but is there anyway to d/l fro Soundcloud. Me thinks not but hoping. Ravinder. 2009/9/9 Greg Earle : > Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell: > > http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx > > - Greg > >
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Martin Dust wrote: but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. I'm up for it Paul, just point out the flaws, easy now... m Martin.. not having a dig at all... sorry if it came across that way personally not a huge fan of beatport, ive never used it...but lots of people do... Agree with all that you've said 100% -- Playing 19th September - Bristol Festival Boat Party 19th September - Bristol Festival Timbuk2 9th October - Nottingham Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
Re: (313) beatportal "20 tracks every techno fan should know"
Good revive Klaas that going back a bit. This and Armchair DJ. 2009/9/8 Klaas-Jan Jongsma : > Ah found it! Long live archives, here are the results from waayy > back (damn twoplayer, almost forgot all about that): > > -Original Message- > From: marsel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:00 PM > To: nort-tedra.net; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] all time 313 tops > | > detroit fives | first results | 2001.07.31 > one hundred and nine top fives entered > five hundred and forty three songs counted > | > songs top fifteen > 18 - carl craig - at les (buzz/planet e) > 15 - rhythim is rhythim - icon (buzz/transmat) > 13 - 69 - desire (infonet/planet e) > 12 - rhythim is rhythim - it is what it is (transmat) > 12 - underground resistance - journey of the dragon (ur) > 11 - model 500 - night drive (metroplex) > 11 - model 500 - no ufo's (metroplex) > 10 - underground resistance - hi tech jazz (ur) > 09 - underground resistance - jupiter jazz (ur) > 08 - r tyme - r theme (transmat) > 07 - underground resistance - final frontier (ur) > 07 - rhythim is rhythim - strings of life(transmat) > 06 - infiniti - game one (metroplex) > 06 - underground resistance - illuminator(ur) > 06 - kenny larkin - tedra (warp) > > labels top fifteen > 85 - underground resistance > 80 - transmat > 48 - planet e > 46 - metroplex > 36 - buzz > 20 - kms > 16 - r&s > 15 - axis > 14 - red planet > 13 - incognito > 11 - warp > 10 - 430 west > 10 - tresor > 08 - express > 08 - fragile > > producers top fifteen > 80 - carl craig > 79 - juan atkins > 65 - underground resistance > 64 - derrick may > 21 - kevin saunderson > 20 - drexciya > 18 - kenny larkin > 15 - jeff mills > 14 - robert hood > 14 - 'red planet' > 11 - burden brothers > 10 - james pennington > 09 - blake baxter > 09 - anthony shakir > 07 - rolando > > carl craig top six > 17 - at les > 13 - desire > 03 - from beyond > 03 - ladies & gentlemen > 02 - [ten different tracks] > 01 - [twenty four different tracks] > > more to come > > http://www.twoplayer.org/ > http://www.forcefield.org/ > > thank you all for your contribution! > transmission on http://nortroute.net soon > > > > > > > > On 8 sep 2009, at 22:20, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: > >> >> On 8 sep 2009, at 20:11, kent williams wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/ >>> >>> Let the beatport hating begin ;-) >> >> Oh hating beatport, now come on Kent, give me a real challenge ;-) I dont >> think my personal views on beatport will pass the 313 language filters ;-) >> >> We used to have a 313 top X online at the old forcefield.org website... >> hello you in here Marsel? ;-) >> >> >> KJ >> > >
Re: (313) beatportal "20 tracks every techno fan should know"
I kind of agree. SOL has always been a bit of a misnomer for me as it was all about The Dance where I was at the time. SOL came popular later but never held the same kudos as The Dance. 2009/9/8 kent williams : > I think the Beatportal list reflects an idea of techno as strictly > having the 4 to the floor beat. A lot of the early tracks had more of > an Electro beat. > > I have a friend in Seattle who was an old school raver, was (and is) a > good techno producer, and he'd didn't know "Strings Of Life" and > dismissed it as a big room hands in the air house anthem. > > You can't assume everyone agrees about even what techno is, at this > point. And while Detroit techno fans think of their definition is the > one true techno, you will have a hard time convincing people that it > is, in fact, the "real" techno. > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Lori Draper wrote: >> Agreed, No UFOs or at least Cybotron's Techno City should be on this. WTF. >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM, David Powers wrote: >>> While debatable, the list was better than I expected. 25% Detroit is >>> pretty good considering it's only one city in the world. >>> >>> If I was doing the list I would put in "No UFO's" or "Cosmic Cars" and >>> something by Derrick May. >>> >>> ~DP >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: I think we can all agree that the inclusion of several Hawtin or at least Hawtin related (lots of Probe on there!) tracks at the exclusion of anything by any of the Belleville Three is laughable at best, disgusting at worst. Though kudos to UR's inclusion on the list. My top 20 to follow. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:11 PM, kent williams wrote: > http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/ > > Let the beatport hating begin ;-) > > Any list like this is subjective, of course. But while Detroit is > represented on this list, it sure tilts towards the european idea of > what comprises techno. Not to put too fine a point on it, it's a lot > whiter that I'd go, and includes some tracks that I think are > reductive and boring. *cough* Swedish *cough* > > I'm sure a lot of you can come up with your own '20 _real_ techno tracks' > list. > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >>> >> >
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. I'm up for it Paul, just point out the flaws, easy now... m
RE: (313) Playing In China
Most here agree with your point of view Martin. The differences are all in the way we choose to handle it, that's all. You've got some admirable stuff going on with respect to trying to make a difference to the lives of a few people there. That's probably the most that we as individuals could hope to achieve: the fact that you're achieving that is the most important point in my book. Disclaimer to the Off Topic Po lease: This has been off topic I know - but we're discussing this because it's a part of the discussion about artistic freedom and how political regimes can have an impact on that. Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:51 AM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Playing In China On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:20, David Powers wrote: > I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad > as China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all! > > ~David You could but I have even greater difficulty with the Chinese Government: 1. The lack of free speech and free thinking: http://www.hrichina.org/public/index 2. It's active use of apartheid systems. 3. It's treatment of Tibet. 4. It's human rights record. For myself, I just could not bring myself to support any of that in any way, shape or form. And where I can't avoid it (iPod/Laptop/TV) I give money to http://www.plan-uk.org/ and have done for 10yrs, we support a couple of people in China with a plan for people to work their way out of poverty - I even had problems with that at one stage because I was worried that it was patronising. I find their letters heart breaking and the fact that I have to watch what I'm saying or sending in my letters makes he even more angry. It's very difficult/complex and I don't think I explained myself well enough yesterday but I really and honestly don't want a cheap holiday in other peoples misery nor do I want to play only to the expats and elite who can afford it, in my heart of hearts I know that it's not right. m
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Martin Dust wrote: would make sense.. they'd be shooting themselves in the foot giving a list of stuff which is unavailable. But a chart should reflect what you're actual playing not what they have, which often they don't but that's where they make most of their money, from people buying DJ charts. m but if it means that slightly more people who were buying mnml rubbish, see the chart and buy some of that instead, it can only be a good thing. Can't it ? -- Playing 19th September - Bristol Festival Boat Party 19th September - Bristol Festival Timbuk2 9th October - Nottingham Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
would make sense.. they'd be shooting themselves in the foot giving a list of stuff which is unavailable. But a chart should reflect what you're actual playing not what they have, which often they don't but that's where they make most of their money, from people buying DJ charts. m
Re: (313) Playing In China
On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:20, David Powers wrote: I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all! ~David You could but I have even greater difficulty with the Chinese Government: 1. The lack of free speech and free thinking: http://www.hrichina.org/public/index 2. It's active use of apartheid systems. 3. It's treatment of Tibet. 4. It's human rights record. For myself, I just could not bring myself to support any of that in any way, shape or form. And where I can't avoid it (iPod/Laptop/TV) I give money to http://www.plan-uk.org/ and have done for 10yrs, we support a couple of people in China with a plan for people to work their way out of poverty - I even had problems with that at one stage because I was worried that it was patronising. I find their letters heart breaking and the fact that I have to watch what I'm saying or sending in my letters makes he even more angry. It's very difficult/complex and I don't think I explained myself well enough yesterday but I really and honestly don't want a cheap holiday in other peoples misery nor do I want to play only to the expats and elite who can afford it, in my heart of hearts I know that it's not right. m
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Martin Dust wrote: Doesn't it have to be in their archive to be in any chart they publish? Which means you can't do a real chart on there. m would make sense.. they'd be shooting themselves in the foot giving a list of stuff which is unavailable. -- Playing 19th September - Bristol Festival Boat Party 19th September - Bristol Festival Timbuk2 9th October - Nottingham Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
On 9 Sep 2009, at 06:34, Fred Heutte wrote: Rewind!! I'd do that with Throw. Which reminds me, why wasn't -that- on that "must know" Beatport list? Doesn't it have to be in their archive to be in any chart they publish? Which means you can't do a real chart on there. m
Re: (313) beatportal "20 tracks every techno fan should know"
On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:41, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I'm really into this idea. Something we could do together as an online community - which hasn't happened for a while. I'd been interested and could probably see the list breaking into different charts, Founding Classic, First Wave etc m
RE: (313) beatportal "20 tracks every techno fan should know"
I'm really into this idea. Something we could do together as an online community - which hasn't happened for a while. -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:42 PM To: kent williams Cc: Christiaan Macdonald; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) beatportal "20 tracks every techno fan should know" I think this is a fantastic idea. How could we handle voting/compiling? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM, kent williams wrote: > I think that is a capital idea. Since Beatport is riddled with > current and former 313 subscribers, I bet they'd put it on their blog. > A chance to educate all those kids with their > cracked copies of Traktor out there... > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Christiaan > Macdonald wrote: >> maybe 313 list should submit a techno top20 (or top50) to beatport based on >> the lists of all 313 members. >> >> >> On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:11 PM, kent williams wrote: >> >> http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/ >> >> Let the beatport hating begin ;-) >> >> Any list like this is subjective, of course. But while Detroit is >> represented on this list, it sure tilts towards the european idea of >> what comprises techno. Not to put too fine a point on it, it's a lot >> whiter that I'd go, and includes some tracks that I think are >> reductive and boring. *cough* Swedish *cough* >> >> I'm sure a lot of you can come up with your own '20 _real_ techno tracks' >> list. >> >> >> >> >> >> Christiaan Macdonald >> Label Manager >> Rush Hour Recordings >> Nieuwezijds Voorburgwal 130-b >> 1012 SH Amsterdam >> The Netherlands >> >> > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com