Re: (313) A-C: Big C

[Klaas-Jan Jongsma]

unfortunatly, he confirmed it today:

@aaroncarl: Today, the doctor diagnosed me with cancer.  They're  
testing more to figure out exactly what kind it is..  I am NOT  
accepting this!!!


http://twitter.com/aaroncarl/status/25346563071


On 24 sep 2010, at 05:57, kent williams wrote:


Last I heard was this: http://aaroncarl.blogspot.com/

I hope we can get more details, when AC is ready to talk about it.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Greg Earle  
 wrote:
Bad news: Angie Schwendemann Linder is reporting on her FB page  
that Aaron-Carl has been diagnosed with Cancer.


Seeing all of Aaron-Carl's family backstage at the DEMF (err, Fuse- 
In) in 2005 and all wearing A-C shirts was one of my all-time  
Festival highlights.


I hope the big guy can beat it and if there are any fundraising  
efforts in his behalf, please post them here to (313).


   - Greg

Re: (313) A-C: Big C

[kent williams]

Last I heard was this: http://aaroncarl.blogspot.com/

I hope we can get more details, when AC is ready to talk about it.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Greg Earle  wrote:
> Bad news: Angie Schwendemann Linder is reporting on her FB page that 
> Aaron-Carl has been diagnosed with Cancer.
>
> Seeing all of Aaron-Carl's family backstage at the DEMF (err, Fuse-In) in 
> 2005 and all wearing A-C shirts was one of my all-time Festival highlights.
>
> I hope the big guy can beat it and if there are any fundraising efforts in 
> his behalf, please post them here to (313).
>
>        - Greg
>
>

Re: (313) new dj mix on ISM

[Simon Obscure]

http://feeds.feedburner.com/313

Thanks :)

It'll take feedburner a little while to catch up but it's showing on the 
master feed now, so I don't think it'll be long before it's there.


S

On 24/09/2010 11:30 AM, Frank Glazer wrote:

this has frak all to do with detroit, but i posted a new mix on
infinite state machine that has some detroit-ish textures to it at
least

http://infinitestatemachine.com/2010/09/20/about-an-hour-with-live-jam-records/

http://files.deejaycountzer0.com/deejaycountzero_-_about_an_hour_with_live_jam.mp3

(besides, i am kind of curious to see if simon's feed script works ;)



--

Simon Swain
Obscure - Dance Music in New Zealand

www.obscure.co.nz
www.psurkit.net

m +61 418 30 20 20

Re: (313) 313 Podcast

[Patrick Wacher]

Very cool and very handy!

P.

On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Simon Obscure  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've written a script to read 313, take links to mp3s and make it in to a 
> podcast.
>
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/313
>
> Slap it in to itunes to save yourself manually downloading all those mixes.
>
> Mainly did this for my own use but I hope it's useful to everyone on the list.
>
> Thanks
> Simon
>
> --
>
> Simon Swain
> m +61 418 30 20 20
>
> Psurkit Netabel
> www.psurkit.net
>
> Obscure - Dance Music in New Zealand
> www.obscure.co.nz
>
>

(313) new dj mix on ISM

[Frank Glazer]

this has frak all to do with detroit, but i posted a new mix on
infinite state machine that has some detroit-ish textures to it at
least

http://infinitestatemachine.com/2010/09/20/about-an-hour-with-live-jam-records/

http://files.deejaycountzer0.com/deejaycountzero_-_about_an_hour_with_live_jam.mp3

(besides, i am kind of curious to see if simon's feed script works ;)

-- 
peace,

frank

http://www.deejaycountzero.com
http://www.infinitestatemachine.com

(313) 313 Podcast

[Simon Obscure]

Hi

I've written a script to read 313, take links to mp3s and make it in to 
a podcast.


http://feeds.feedburner.com/313

Slap it in to itunes to save yourself manually downloading all those mixes.

Mainly did this for my own use but I hope it's useful to everyone on the 
list.


Thanks
Simon

--

Simon Swain
m +61 418 30 20 20

Psurkit Netabel
www.psurkit.net

Obscure - Dance Music in New Zealand
www.obscure.co.nz

Re: (313) New interviews

[Cyclone Wehner]

I don't think Rick is really out of line with many other DJs from  
across the spectrum.


He's summed up how many DJs feel.

Also there is the hideous spectre of 'Facebook clubbing' here in Oz  
where people seem to go out only to spend time on their phones and  
posting pics.


On 24/09/2010, at 2:09 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote:


Well, at least this got everyone talking!

And lay off the Dad chat you lot :)

Jason

On 23 September 2010 16:39, Martin Dust   
wrote:




On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote:


I think that people should produce music how they want to  
produce, and

be judged on the results.  I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite
stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs.  I can  
disagree

with him and still have mad respect for him.



Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him  
anytime.


m

(313) A-C: Big C

[Greg Earle]

Bad news: Angie Schwendemann Linder is reporting on her FB page that Aaron-Carl 
has been diagnosed with Cancer.

Seeing all of Aaron-Carl's family backstage at the DEMF (err, Fuse-In) in 2005 
and all wearing A-C shirts was one of my all-time Festival highlights.

I hope the big guy can beat it and if there are any fundraising efforts in his 
behalf, please post them here to (313).

- Greg

Re: (313) New interviews

[wojciech]

it's not a surprise to me, since he calls things as he sees them, and
that approach is bound to get at least a few negative responses from
the forum responses on ra.

that, and the forum-reading crowd always loves to pick a side (i'm for
digital-he's for vinyl!), instead of addressing valid--if directly
stated--points that rick addressed.

i didn't get a vinyl vs. digital vibe from his answers either.  more a
noob vs. someone that honed their craft vibe.

-wojtek



On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM,   wrote:
> http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245
>
> I'm quite surprised at all the negative feedback both on 313 and RA to
> Rick's interview, largely on the basis of his comments about the vinyl /
> digital debate in answer to just a few questions out of the whole article.
>  I thought he came off quite well overall.
>
> For a remarkably different perspective, check out:
>
> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/little-white-earbuds-interviews-shed/
>
>
> m50
>
> At 2010.09.23 10:27, kent williams wrote:
>>
>> As for RA commenters, one should not judge humanity on the comments
>> left on blogs & websites.  The best thing I can say for a lot of them
>> is that at least they're sitting at their computer typing instead of
>> going out in the world and actualizing their hatred and ignorance.
>
>

Re: (313) New interviews

[Greg Earle]

On Sep 23, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Martin Dust  wrote:

> On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote:
> 
>> If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to
>> what he said... ;)
> 
> Haha "Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders" 

My reaction when I read

"The industry is in total shambles — from the pressing plant to the mastering  
plant, the people that make the labels and the jackets, to the actual artists 
themselves.  All of that is totally gone because most people don't believe 
music is worth more than a dollar.  If that."

was

"If this was 100 years ago, Rick would've been a blacksmith/farrier banging on 
about the Ford Model T ruining his horseshoeing business".

Adapt Or Die.

- Greg

Re: (313) New interviews

[maxphifty]

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245

I'm quite surprised at all the negative feedback both on 313 and RA to 
Rick's interview, largely on the basis of his comments about the vinyl / 
digital debate in answer to just a few questions out of the whole 
article.  I thought he came off quite well overall.


For a remarkably different perspective, check out:

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/little-white-earbuds-interviews-shed/ 




m50

At 2010.09.23 10:27, kent williams wrote:

As for RA commenters, one should not judge humanity on the comments
left on blogs & websites.  The best thing I can say for a lot of them
is that at least they're sitting at their computer typing instead of
going out in the world and actualizing their hatred and ignorance.

Re: (313) New interviews

[David Powers]

Kent, did you seriously just type "raison d'être" on an email list?

You're such an elitist!!! ;-)

~David

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:14 AM, kent williams  wrote:
> It's not my raison d'être

Re: (313) Good Docu's

[ja...@iridite.com]

> If you haven't seen The Alchemists Of Sound, you really should:
> http://www.littledetroit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31334
>
That was a fantastic documentary - really enjoyed it!




>
> And finally DJ Derek, for being an outsider, a great selector and for
> going on every National Express route ever - brilliant
>
> DJ Derek
> http://www.littledetroit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31249

Ha ha - he's the MAN!

Jason

>
> m
>

Re: (313) New interviews

[ja...@iridite.com]

Well, at least this got everyone talking!

And lay off the Dad chat you lot :)

Jason

On 23 September 2010 16:39, Martin Dust  wrote:
>
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote:
>
>> I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and
>> be judged on the results.  I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite
>> stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs.  I can disagree
>> with him and still have mad respect for him.
>
> Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him anytime.
>
> m
>
>

Re: (313) MODEL 500 OFI

[Robin Pinning]

I don't think it's out until October (11th?).

R

On 23 Sep 2010, at 15:37, Office wrote:

> Where can you buy the Mp3

RE: (313) MODEL 500 OFI

[Odeluga, Ken]

I don't know myself.

I think it's a kinda ironic question and the source of the question is too! ;-)

Peace,

Ken

-Original Message-
From: Office [mailto:puzzle...@optic-universe.com]
Sent: 23 September 2010 15:37
To: 313
Subject: (313) MODEL 500 OFI

Where can you buy the Mp3

thanks
Puzzlebox Ewcords




[]


Cell Phone: (313) 492-1870

World Wide Web :
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www.optic-universe.com

Email :
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puzzle...@optic-universe.com

Puzzlebox Recordings  Info
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Licensing :
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BOOKING

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Artist booking
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Jennifer Wilson (UK )  Japan, Australia, South America, Africa Artist booking 
Tel.
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--

Re: (313) New interviews

[Martin Dust]

On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote:

> I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and
> be judged on the results.  I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite
> stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs.  I can disagree
> with him and still have mad respect for him.

Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him anytime.

m

Re: (313) New interviews

[kent williams]

I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and
be judged on the results.  I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite
stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs.  I can disagree
with him and still have mad respect for him.

And honestly, what he believes that (arguably) isn't so is much saner
than a lot of things artists say they believe.  How much crazy sh*t
has Prince said over the years?

As for RA commenters, one should not judge humanity on the comments
left on blogs & websites.  The best thing I can say for a lot of them
is that at least they're sitting at their computer typing instead of
going out in the world and actualizing their hatred and ignorance.

(313) MODEL 500 OFI

[Office]

Where can you buy the Mp3

thanks
Puzzlebox Ewcords




[]


Cell Phone: (313) 492-1870

World Wide Web :
www.puzzleboxrecords.com
www.optic-universe.com

Email :
Puzzlebox Recordings Office
puzzle...@optic-universe.com

Puzzlebox Recordings  Info
i...@optic-universe.com

Licensing :
technosis...@optic-universe.com


BOOKING

Switch Booking (Spain) Austria, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway France, Iceland
Artist booking
Tel.+34647098103
Mail: 
i...@sw-tch.com

 Web:http://sw-tch.com

Jennifer Wilson (UK )  Japan, Australia, South America, Africa
Artist booking
Tel.
Mail: jenni...@a0rta.com


--

RE: (313) New interviews

[Odeluga, Ken]

>I disagree with most of what  Wilhite says about working digital, but I have 
>to say he knows how to make a party deep.

I disagree as well, and I'm hoping one day I can tell him in person!

But he's still a very skilled and talented producer and an excellent DJ to 
boot. To me that far out-weighs what I see as wrongheadedness about the 
validity of different production techniques. And even that is his point of 
view, which he's entitled to.

I'm certainly not going to insult him as if he's evil or stupid simply because 
of his views, as some people on RA think they've got a right to.

Whatever.

Ken


It is always the case that people with venal motivations can parlay a small 
amount of talent and a ruthless instinct for self-promotion into a career.  
They can appeal to an audience that likes their art to be a useful lifestyle 
accessory, that are scared of art that affects them deeply and changes their 
view of the world.  They want their prejudices confirmed, not challenged. That 
social contract, between the panderer and the pandered to, is the most common 
form of 'art.'
It's a fraudulent transaction -- they promise you more than they deliver, and 
people accept it at face value.

I'd contend that they're being cheated. They're being uncritical consumers of a 
substandard product. It's the difference between a proper meal made from 
scratch and something that comes frozen or in a tin. But you can't force people 
to take their own lives seriously.

Which is the long way round to this: It's not the technology, it's what people 
do with it.  There are loads of people content to use it to perform the same 
cheap tricks over and over, but it doesn't mean there's nothing deep that can 
be done with it.

Case in point: PanSonic. They sure don't make deep house music, but they used 
their laptops to make sounds so deep you can feel the magma flowing.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Martin Dust  wrote:
>
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote:
>
>> If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to
>> what he said... ;)
>
> Haha "Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders"
>
>>
>> I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the
>> electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the
>> case ever since music became a commodity?  Ask Franz Schubert or
>> Charlie Parker...
>
> There's too many contradictions in the piece, he talks about "real musicians" 
> in one breath and then about programming a drum machine in the next, which 
> kinda voids his arguement about learning a "trade" because using a drum 
> machine sure does bypass years of learning.
>
> Americans seem to be much more obsessed with "authentic" and "real" - like 
> Bruce Springsteen is their poster boy! Techno for me is about saying fcuk off 
> to those rockisms. The whole history of electronic music and sound design 
> really interests me and when you read about how this guys struggled, you 
> can't help but pay respect.
>
> And as far as I'm aware, all the equipment in the world still won't write you 
> a good track. And sure, Beatport's top 10 is a crock of shite but worrying 
> about that is like trying to influence the weather by making a cup of tea!
>
> m
>
> PS I also wonder if he's ever seen Kraftwerk live :)
>
>

Re: (313) New interviews

[Martin Dust]

On 23 Sep 2010, at 14:11, kent williams wrote:

>  But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously.

So why worry about it and why make it your reason for being?

m

Re: (313) New interviews

[kent williams]

It's not my raison d'être and I doubt it is Rick's.  And it's a side
issue to what I was talking about.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Martin Dust  wrote:
>
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 14:11, kent williams wrote:
>
>>  But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously.
>
> So why worry about it and why make it your reason for being?
>
> m
>

(313) Stingray - Now

[Martin Dust]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dommune

RE: (313) New driving techhouse/techno mix

[Max & Mark]

Great mix dude!!

-Message d'origine-
De : Jari Tolkkinen [mailto:jari.tolkki...@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : 22 septembre 2010 16:52
À : 313@hyperreal.org
Objet : (313) New driving techhouse/techno mix

dj ken-guru - remotel (driving tech-house/techno).

01. Stephen Hill & Koljah - Nonresponder
02. Deetron - Zircon
03. Lil'Tony - Redrum
04. Laurent Garnier - Stargazing
05 Jori Hulkkonen - My brother went to space and all I got was this
lousy vacuum (Jesper Dahlbäck Remix)
06. Motiivi:Tuntematon - I don't feel good (When you're not around)
07. Discemi - Data Sapiens (Original mix)
08. Faculty X - What you've always known (DJ C1 Remix)
09. Kolombo - Pile down
10. Unknown Artist - Unknown track

Go grab it:

http://www.ken-guru.net/mixes/dj_ken-guru_-_remotel.mp3

--
Jari Tolkkinen
Tel: +31-6-25162691
Email: ken-g...@iki.fi

Re: (313) New interviews

[kent williams]

I disagree with most of what  Wilhite says about working digital, but
I have to say he knows how to make a party deep.

It is always the case that people with venal motivations can parlay a
small amount of talent and a ruthless instinct for self-promotion into
a career.  They can appeal to an audience that likes their art to be a
useful lifestyle accessory, that are scared of art that affects them
deeply and changes their view of the world.  They want their
prejudices confirmed, not challenged. That social contract, between
the panderer and the pandered to, is the most common form of 'art.'
It's a fraudulent transaction -- they promise you more than they
deliver, and people accept it at face value.

I'd contend that they're being cheated. They're being uncritical
consumers of a substandard product. It's the difference between a
proper meal made from scratch and something that comes frozen or in a
tin. But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously.

Which is the long way round to this: It's not the technology, it's
what people do with it.  There are loads of people content to use it
to perform the same cheap tricks over and over, but it doesn't mean
there's nothing deep that can be done with it.

Case in point: PanSonic. They sure don't make deep house music, but
they used their laptops to make sounds so deep you can feel the magma
flowing.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Martin Dust  wrote:
>
> On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote:
>
>> If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to
>> what he said... ;)
>
> Haha "Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders"
>
>>
>> I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the
>> electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the
>> case ever since music became a commodity?  Ask Franz Schubert or
>> Charlie Parker...
>
> There's too many contradictions in the piece, he talks about "real musicians" 
> in one breath and then about programming a drum machine in the next, which 
> kinda voids his arguement about learning a "trade" because using a drum 
> machine sure does bypass years of learning.
>
> Americans seem to be much more obsessed with "authentic" and "real" - like 
> Bruce Springsteen is their poster boy! Techno for me is about saying fcuk off 
> to those rockisms. The whole history of electronic music and sound design 
> really interests me and when you read about how this guys struggled, you 
> can't help but pay respect.
>
> And as far as I'm aware, all the equipment in the world still won't write you 
> a good track. And sure, Beatport's top 10 is a crock of shite but worrying 
> about that is like trying to influence the weather by making a cup of tea!
>
> m
>
> PS I also wonder if he's ever seen Kraftwerk live :)
>
>

(313) Bleep43 Party October 1, LONDON - Full Line-Up

[Odeluga, Ken]

Hi,

Please permit me to let you know exactly what we'll have on offer Friday week:

Urban Tribe, comprising DJ Stingray and Kex, LIVE

Convextion LIVE

Legowelt LIVE

DJ Overdose

Mariska

Plant43 LIVE

Matt Whitehead LIVE

Matilda

Bleep43 residents:

Toby Frith

Dan Bean

http://www.bleep43.com/

Remember, this party will also be celebrating the launch of Bleep43's own 
record label with a 12" featuring tracks from two of the artists on the line 
up: Convextion and Plant43. Out on 4th October, the vinyl and digital EP also 
includes tracks from Bleep43 members Orphan and Jo Johnson.

If you are coming to the party and want to order a copy for collection on the 
night, we are taking orders.

http://www.bleep43.com/collect-a-copy-of-bleep4ep001/

See you there!

(313) Good Docu's

[Martin Dust]

Morning list, to counter my moaning - here's some of the good stuff :)

If you haven't seen The Alchemists Of Sound, you really should:
http://www.littledetroit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31334


I also highly recommend What The Future Sounded Like:
http://www.littledetroit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D1&t=3D31335

And finally DJ Derek, for being an outsider, a great selector and for 
going on every National Express route ever - brilliant

DJ Derek
http://www.littledetroit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31249

m

Re: (313) New interviews

[Martin Dust]

On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote:

> If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to
> what he said... ;)

Haha "Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders" 

> 
> I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the
> electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the
> case ever since music became a commodity?  Ask Franz Schubert or
> Charlie Parker...

There's too many contradictions in the piece, he talks about "real musicians" 
in one breath and then about programming a drum machine in the next, which 
kinda voids his arguement about learning a "trade" because using a drum machine 
sure does bypass years of learning.

Americans seem to be much more obsessed with "authentic" and "real" - like 
Bruce Springsteen is their poster boy! Techno for me is about saying fcuk off 
to those rockisms. The whole history of electronic music and sound design 
really interests me and when you read about how this guys struggled, you can't 
help but pay respect.

And as far as I'm aware, all the equipment in the world still won't write you a 
good track. And sure, Beatport's top 10 is a crock of shite but worrying about 
that is like trying to influence the weather by making a cup of tea!

m

PS I also wonder if he's ever seen Kraftwerk live :)