RE: (313) Research question about vinyl manipulation
maybe not what you're looking for, but Christian Bloch had a metal spindle that elevated a record and allowed him to play it upside down, the cartridge had to be flipped in the tonearm and the counterbalance weight had to be adjusted so that the cart would lift up and press upside down against the vinyl. -Original Message- From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:09 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Research question about vinyl manipulation Hi all, Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN DETROIT: Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the grooves match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of dramatic vinyl manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric grooves, groove reversal (starting a record from the inside to play outward), and looped grooves. Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks! -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
(313) Vinyl Gleanings Wild Kingdom
Last week, SAL9000 filled in on the Wild Kingdom, as I was attending an amateur audio conference in San Francisco. You can view her Wild Kingdom set at http://www.kfjc.org/music/playlist.php?i=36599 . Her usual show time is Saturday mornings 6-9 AM, so special thanks to her are in order for burning the candle at both ends. This week, I'm presenting a set composed of some the records (old and new) acquired over the past few months that I haven't had a chance to get to until now. It's an interesting lot, including tunes from Low Res, Paul Teebrooke, Subsonic 808, Abe Duque, Steve Rachmad, Detroit Escalator Company, Air Liquide, and others. My trainee will be joining me for tonight's session. Keep in mind that this will be a 4-hour Wild Kingdom due to the time change. Remember to set your clocks... It's fundraiser time at KFJC, so we're asking for donations to pay our bills - donate if the spirit moves you at www.kfjc.org . I'll be extending the "Goodwrench Matching Challenge" again tonight. Tune in for details. Limited time archives for all shows on KFJC (including this one) are available at http://www.kfjc.org/broadcast_archives/ . These are "rolling archives", available for two weeks after any given show. My shows are listed under "Goodwrench". Send comments and suggestions to i...@kfjc.org . "The Wild Kingdom" airs on KFJC-FM 89.7, Saturday night/Sunday Morning, 12A-3A (8A-10A GMT). Potential listeners outside the San Francisco Bay area can find a webcast at http://www.kfjc.org/netcast/index.php . Present and past Wild Kingdom playlists are also archived at kfjc.org. You can also check out archived playlists from my first KFJC show "Just Desserts" that was on Fridays 10P-2A from 1992 through 1999. Archived playlists exist for that show starting from Fall 1995 to New Year's Eve 1999/2000, so you can see what what I'm up to these days is pretty much consistent with what I was up to all along. If you do tune in (especially via the web), please take a little time to let me know your locale. I'm also interested in promo music from all over and in promoting local (San Francisco Bay area) techno-type events. If you want to do some promotion for an event, contact the KFJC promotions department at pr...@kfjc.org to arrange ticket giveaways and/or to send information for inclusion in our concert outlook. Thanks to those who have sent promo music so far. Regards, Richard Hester "Mr. Goodwrench" "The Wild Kingdom" SU 12A-3A KFJC-FM 89.7 Los Alto Hills, California, USA
Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)
his other work is perhaps more coherent as art - his video quartet is one of the most moving works of art i have ever experienced. http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2002/05/52031 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Jeff Richards wrote: > I guess it all depends on who the viewer is, I could go the whole rest of my > life without ever hearing of this guy again. I dont get it either as music > or art. The only way to make it harder for me to understand would be to have > a poetry reading happening at the same time. > > Jeff > > Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T > > Rob Taylor wrote: > >>christian marclay is not a musician, he's an artist. there's nothing >>to get about his 'music'. it's all about the processes >> >>On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:08 PM, AntonBanks.com wrote: >>> Really interesting topic! >>> >>> I don't mean to derail the conversation but this link got me thinking... >>> >>> I'd never heard of Christian Marclay before so I checked out the links. I >>> don’t find myself saying this too often but I REALLY don't get his music. I >>> thought this wass odd because I've come to really like ambient and >>> soundscapes. I can tell that there is a definite purpose behind what he is >>> doing. Wikipedia pegs him as the "unwitting inventor of turntablism" and I >>> agree with that statement. You can certainly learn a few turntablism >>> techniques by watching what he does. It's just that the overall performance >>> is totally lost on me. >>> >>> -ant- >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mike Taylor [mailto:disconihil...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:58 PM >>> To: 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org >>> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >>> Subject: (313) Re: Research question about vinyl manipulation >>> >>> >>> I don't know if anyone in the dance scene has done anything like this. This >>> kind of stuff falls more into the noise scene. I can remember the Time >>> Stereo guys drilling holes in records so that they would play off center and >>> sound wobbly, but that is the only thing that comes to mind. >>> >>> This guy has made a career of that gimmick: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Marclay >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFH4XHU228 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-_lGxib4 >>> -- Forwarded message -- From: Denise Dalphond To: ...@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:08:48 -0400 Subject: Research question about vinyl manipulation Hi all, Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN DETROIT: Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the grooves match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of dramatic vinyl manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric grooves, groove reversal (starting a record from the inside to play outward), and looped grooves. Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks! -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> This >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 >>> 04:36:00 >>> >>> >
Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)
I guess it all depends on who the viewer is, I could go the whole rest of my life without ever hearing of this guy again. I dont get it either as music or art. The only way to make it harder for me to understand would be to have a poetry reading happening at the same time. Jeff Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T Rob Taylor wrote: >christian marclay is not a musician, he's an artist. there's nothing >to get about his 'music'. it's all about the processes > >On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:08 PM, AntonBanks.com wrote: >> Really interesting topic! >> >> I don't mean to derail the conversation but this link got me thinking... >> >> I'd never heard of Christian Marclay before so I checked out the links. I >> don’t find myself saying this too often but I REALLY don't get his music. I >> thought this wass odd because I've come to really like ambient and >> soundscapes. I can tell that there is a definite purpose behind what he is >> doing. Wikipedia pegs him as the "unwitting inventor of turntablism" and I >> agree with that statement. You can certainly learn a few turntablism >> techniques by watching what he does. It's just that the overall performance >> is totally lost on me. >> >> -ant- >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike Taylor [mailto:disconihil...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:58 PM >> To: 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: (313) Re: Research question about vinyl manipulation >> >> >> I don't know if anyone in the dance scene has done anything like this. This >> kind of stuff falls more into the noise scene. I can remember the Time >> Stereo guys drilling holes in records so that they would play off center and >> sound wobbly, but that is the only thing that comes to mind. >> >> This guy has made a career of that gimmick: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Marclay >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFH4XHU228 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-_lGxib4 >> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: Denise Dalphond >>> To: ...@hyperreal.org >>> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:08:48 -0400 >>> Subject: Research question about vinyl manipulation >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN >>> DETROIT: >>> >>> Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle >>> exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the >>> grooves match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of >>> dramatic vinyl manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric >>> grooves, groove reversal (starting a record from the inside to play >>> outward), and looped grooves. >>> >>> Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Denise Dalphond >>> Ph.D. Candidate >>> Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology >>> Indiana University >>> http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> This >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 >> 04:36:00 >> >>
(313) The Vault - November 3, 2010 feat. Andy Vaz
Schedule for the next few weeks: November 17, 2010 - Tim Baker (http://www.elephanthaus.com/) December 1, 2010 - Reeko (http://www.reeko.net/) CLICK THE LINK TO HEAR THE SHOW (This show was posted in 2 parts) http://www.antonbanks.com/audio/the_vault_11-03-10_pt1.mp3 http://www.antonbanks.com/audio/the_vault_11-03-10_pt2.mp3 Show archives are available online. To get to them, visit www.AntonBanks.com and click on "Archives". Tracklist for the show: [Artist, Track, Label] Examine - Essential Reconstruction [Snejl] Bukaddor & Fishbeck - Glaedys [MBF] David Keno - Catnip [Trapez Ltd] Ian F - How Much Does A Soul Weigh [Sleep Is Commercial] Andre Kraml - Der Springende Punkt (ThermalBear remix) [Trapez] Max Cooper - Chaotisch Serie (Maetrik remix) [Traum] Inigo Kennedy - Mood [Assymetric] ### DJ Mix By Andy Vaz Appears courtesy Yore Records. Please visit the following website for more information about him. www.yore-records.com You can find his releases at the following link. http://www.junodownload.com/search/?quick_search_download=all&q=andy+vaz&qs= 1&s_search_precision=any&s_genre_id= Sorry, the tracklisting is not available. ### Recloose- Four Ways Of Saying Goodbye [Planet-E] Enjoy, Anton --- Click for info about the show: www.antonbanks.com/bio.html I appreciate all promotional music sent to me and will never promote music piracy. Send me your music and I WILL play it on my show. iTunes Feed: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=352011413 RSS: http://www.antonbanks.com/The_Vault_RSS.xml Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Vault-Radio-Show/300106301067
Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)
christian marclay is not a musician, he's an artist. there's nothing to get about his 'music'. it's all about the processes On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:08 PM, AntonBanks.com wrote: > Really interesting topic! > > I don't mean to derail the conversation but this link got me thinking... > > I'd never heard of Christian Marclay before so I checked out the links. I > don’t find myself saying this too often but I REALLY don't get his music. I > thought this wass odd because I've come to really like ambient and > soundscapes. I can tell that there is a definite purpose behind what he is > doing. Wikipedia pegs him as the "unwitting inventor of turntablism" and I > agree with that statement. You can certainly learn a few turntablism > techniques by watching what he does. It's just that the overall performance > is totally lost on me. > > -ant- > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Taylor [mailto:disconihil...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:58 PM > To: 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Re: Research question about vinyl manipulation > > > I don't know if anyone in the dance scene has done anything like this. This > kind of stuff falls more into the noise scene. I can remember the Time > Stereo guys drilling holes in records so that they would play off center and > sound wobbly, but that is the only thing that comes to mind. > > This guy has made a career of that gimmick: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Marclay > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFH4XHU228 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-_lGxib4 > >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Denise Dalphond >> To: ...@hyperreal.org >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:08:48 -0400 >> Subject: Research question about vinyl manipulation >> Hi all, >> >> Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN >> DETROIT: >> >> Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle >> exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the >> grooves match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of >> dramatic vinyl manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric >> grooves, groove reversal (starting a record from the inside to play >> outward), and looped grooves. >> >> Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks! >> >> -- >> Denise Dalphond >> Ph.D. Candidate >> Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology >> Indiana University >> http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> > > This > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > 04:36:00 > >
Re: (313) Christian Marclay (was Research question about vinyl manipulation)
Guessing I should chime in. What Christian Marclay does is actually an extension of what many of the DMC battle champions started doing. Using tape, or other means to get a record to skip (in time, or a controlled skip). I've used the technique before and it is a bunch of fun...When I was creating musique concrete/experimental works, the turntable was my fourth instrument usually. Using four turntables and marking all your records like Marclay does is pretty interesting, yet the problem is that after awhile, you just kind of get the feeling that he was done halfway into his performance? You can use glue to do it...DAC Crowell at one point got an old dubplate from Jamaica which had a skip in it (chocolate...LOL), most guys that I've known to 'mark' their records used the labels from cassette tapes (remember those things???) Denise, your question just made me nostalgicI'm remembering how I taught myself how to cut a locked groove on an old rek-o-cut mono lathe...and how proud I was:) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:07 AM, AntonBanks.com wrote: > Really interesting topic! > > I don't mean to derail the conversation but this link got me thinking... > > I'd never heard of Christian Marclay before so I checked out the links. I > don’t find myself saying this too often but I REALLY don't get his music. I > thought this wass odd because I've come to really like ambient and > soundscapes. I can tell that there is a definite purpose behind what he is > doing. Wikipedia pegs him as the "unwitting inventor of turntablism" and I > agree with that statement. You can certainly learn a few turntablism > techniques by watching what he does. It's just that the overall performance > is totally lost on me. > > -ant- > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Taylor [mailto:disconihil...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:58 PM > To: 313-digest-h...@hyperreal.org > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Re: Research question about vinyl manipulation > > > I don't know if anyone in the dance scene has done anything like this. This > kind of stuff falls more into the noise scene. I can remember the Time > Stereo guys drilling holes in records so that they would play off center and > sound wobbly, but that is the only thing that comes to mind. > > This guy has made a career of that gimmick: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Marclay > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFH4XHU228 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVr-_lGxib4 > >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Denise Dalphond >> To: ...@hyperreal.org >> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:08:48 -0400 >> Subject: Research question about vinyl manipulation >> Hi all, >> >> Has anyone ever done or heard of anyone doing the following IN >> DETROIT: >> >> Physically manipulating a piece of vinyl by cutting it down the middle >> exactly and then gluing it to another half of vinyl so that the >> grooves match up and it can actually play? Or any other kind of >> dramatic vinyl manipulation? I'm thinking of things beyond concentric >> grooves, groove reversal (starting a record from the inside to play >> outward), and looped grooves. >> >> Feel free to message me directly if you'd rather. Thanks! >> >> -- >> Denise Dalphond >> Ph.D. Candidate >> Department of Folklore & Ethnomusicology >> Indiana University >> http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> > > This > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 > 04:36:00 > > -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
