Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
Perhaps I'm just using rubbish ones? I have generic 3M 'orange' ones. Not more expensive fitted or special purpose plugs. I might have to branch out :) Kev > I swear, though I have no real scientific evidence or anything other > than my word to give you, that you can understand people better in a > loud concert (110-120db) when you DO have earplugs in, AND it > significantly increases the fidelity of the sound. > > Kev wrote: > >>Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I >>find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to >> people, >>ordering from the bar etc). >> >
Re: (313) Turn the volume down....
Good, it's about time.
I've been to too many clubs where I've had to leave because I was
literally in pain from the sound levels (a particularly dynamite Dave
Clarke set was once ruined by this. To be fair I think the staff did keep
turning it down but slowly but surely the volume levels crept back up...)
or after attending my hearing has been severely limited for not far off
the whole of the following week.
Earplugs are always a potential but it can be difficult practically as I
find they have to be put in / taken out very often (for talking to people,
ordering from the bar etc).
The best clubnights I've been to have been where the sound is down
reasonably low (to the point where you don't need to raise your voice much
to carry a conversation) but has exceptional clarity (basically bordering
on having your home system up loud but spread over the area of the dance
floor) as opposed to the systems that are so loud that there is distortion
or complete loss of of mid range frequencies ('do you know what song this
is?' 'no idea, all I'm hearing is a bass thump and hi hats, could be
anything'.
As an aside, I really hope this applys to bars as well. Too often I've
been in a bar at the magical time whereby it goes from being a bar with
music playing in the background at a comfortable level to a bar/mini-club
with music playing at club levels. Which necessitates a hasty exit
otherwise you can't actually talk to the people you're with.
Or maybe I'm just getting old :)
Kev
> UK CLUBS TO TURN IT DOWN
> It's not everyday that DJs are told to turn the music down, especially
> not by politicians
> but now 365Mag can reveal that has just happened. The UK government is
> set to
> reduce the level of noise in British clubs by up to 5% from April 2006
> with a law that is intended
> to protect the hearing of those in the music industry.
> When the new levels are passed by parliament in the Spring, employers in
> clubs and
> venues will be expected to protect their staffs hearing with a reduction
> in volume and
> a decrease in time spent exposed to excessive noise. Lawrence Waterman,
> President of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH)
> says:
> "We need to help employs who work in the music industry to understand
> the risks of noise exposure".
> According to UK Heath and Safety statistics, around 170,000 people
> suffer from work related tinnitus,
> deafness or other ear-related problems.
> DJs who suffer from damaged hearing are Rocky from X-press 2 fame,
> Laurent Garnier and Tall Paul,
> who consulted a specialist in the late 90s, only to be told he had done
> irreparable damage to his hearing.
> This law raises the question of the use of ear filters once again. DJs
> such as Roger Sanchez, Jeff Mills, Laurent Garnier,
> Sander Kleinenberg and Erick Morillo all use custom-built earplugs to
> protect the ears from those
> dangerous high frequencies coming out of the monitors. Maybe the
> familiar ringing in the ears
> the next morning after a club-night could about to become a thing of the
> past for those on
> the dancefloor too after purchasing these plugs, or is that 'whistling'
> sound simply an integral part of a good night out?
>
Re: (313) November essentials
Brilliant thanks, might have to grab it :) Looks like a good web site as well...so another round of thanks! Kev > It's like a graphic design book with a dvd, including videoclips / > motion graphics. > > More info here http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=15556 > > I think it's awesome! > > Ken > > > - Original Message - > From: "Kev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: (313) November essentials > > >> I'm curious about the funkstorung release, what is this / where is it >> available? :) >> >> Kev >> >> >> >My wannahaves are. >> > >> >Various - WarpVision: The Videos 1989-2004 (dvd / mix cd) >> >Isolated - Funkstorung - Triple Media (dvd) >> >Godson, The - Soul Edge EP Part 2 >> >Monolith, The - The Music In My Mind (digital soul) >> >Niko Marks - Carnal (regal recordings) >> >Juan Atkins - Fast Forward (regal recordings) >> >Juan Atkins - Back To Basics (Part 1) (regal recordings) >> >Juan Atkins - Back To Basics (Part 2) (regal recordings) >> > >> >...oooeeh... I'm getting hot!
Re: (313) November essentials
I'm curious about the funkstorung release, what is this / where is it available? :) Kev >My wannahaves are. > >Various - WarpVision: The Videos 1989-2004 (dvd / mix cd) >Isolated - Funkstorung - Triple Media (dvd) >Godson, The - Soul Edge EP Part 2 >Monolith, The - The Music In My Mind (digital soul) >Niko Marks - Carnal (regal recordings) >Juan Atkins - Fast Forward (regal recordings) >Juan Atkins - Back To Basics (Part 1) (regal recordings) >Juan Atkins - Back To Basics (Part 2) (regal recordings) > >...oooeeh... I'm getting hot!
Re: (313) Emotion Electric shutdown
Sadly (and from recent personal experience which I don't want to go into) we're at the point where the large corporations (in this case the major labels and their 'industry watchdogs' like the RIAA) have enough money to effectively buy the law. So yes, in these corporations eyes infringing (note..not stealing) the copyright of their products is worse than you killing a random joe. I agree it is completely out of hand but as long as they decide they don't like it and are funding major political candidates and campaigns (hello Mr Ashcroft) the law will be bent to their will. Curiously, I'm not sure if the Emotion Electric peeps saw any documentation pertaining to the shutdown but my recent experience which involved US law enforcement offices certainly had at the bottom of key documentation 'investigations were assisted by various intellectual property trade associations, includingthe Recording Industry Association of America." Which basically means the US judicial system is in bed massivlely with the media peoples. In a kind of inbred not healthy way. Head for the hills... Kev > jail time... think about how crazy that is really. They're feel that > downloading is enough of a *threat* to society that they will remove > you from society and lock you up for 6 years of your life. I could kill > someone and be in there for just a few more years (10) comparatively. > > This is just f*cking ridiculous and out-of-hand. > > Doesn't that seem like cruel and unusual punishment? I think if turn > over the bill at the end of the night and it says you owe $1.5 billion > dollars for a round of drinks would be enough to make you rethink your > past actions but to throw someone in jail is seriously harsh. > > MEK
Re: (313) michael mayer
Just a quick thanks to everyone for the great (as always) recomendations...I've ordered the Dj Koze mix and Mayers Immer mix from Kompakt...no luck tracking down the older mix mentioned (Neuhouse) but I'll keep trying! Thanks again, Kev
Re: (313) michael mayer
beat me to a reply by a second :) On the topic of Michael Mayer I've really gotten into his Fabric mix over the past couple of weeks, I've enjoyed it since I first got the cd when it came out but it has *really* grown on me recently. Can anyone offer suggestions for any more Michael Mayer mix cd's or online mixes in a similar style to his Fabric CD? Thanks, Kev Matthias Krueger wrote: richard davis "bring me closer", also on his fabric mix. http://www.discogs.com/release/191620 great track ! matthias On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, ed612313 wrote: hey peoples been trying to find out what this track is for a while michael mayer played it Times Square, Detroit (27.09.03) 8 min into his set. ive also heard matt dear play it on proton radio very nice minimal atmospheric techno/house with a fat beat "nothing you say will bring me closer" "mumble mumble mumle???" thats it for the lyrics. sorry for the 2nd part.i cant make it out sorry for the lack of info thanks in advance also, anyone that thinks jeff mills cant mix, watch his exhibitionist dvd and see what he really does. you are kidding yourself. He is amazing. peace ed ps see the sydneysiders @ theo p next weekend. oh yeah
Re: (313) Jeffty Mills! Exhibitionist Tracklisting
I've been listening to this for the past week or two now and its pretty good. A nice range of tunes...althought he mixing is sometimes a bit iffy but as we're getting 45 songs on one cd thats maybe to be expected :) Kev Maxim Sullivan wrote: Halo Peepz, A friend just kindly sent me a tracklisting of the new Jeff Mills mix CD. Some nice looking things on here and I'm not sure but there may be one or two of his own tracks on it too!! :) Jeff Mills - Exhibitionist 01 - Jeff Mills - 009F Segment 3 02 - Jeff Mills - Condor to Mallorca 03 - Oliver Ho - Organic Synthetic 04 - Samuel L Sessions - Dances D'afrique Rmx 05 - Jesper Dahlbeck - Laget Hans 06 - Alan Barratt Presents - Zulu Nation Part IX 07 - Octave One - Black Water 08 - Ben Sims - Moments Dope Mix 09 - Latin Impr. UK Gold Rmx-Victor Simonelli - Bateria 10 - Troy Geary - Slipped Again 11 - Temple - Contact Paula 12 - Oscar Mulero - B2 form CR007 13 - WJH - Harmonix 14 - Headroom - Ride the Threshold 15 - Jeff Mills - the Bells 16 - Samuel L Sessions - Ricoque 17 - Monika Kruse & Zafra Negra - LATIN LOVER 18 - Jeff Mills - "the" Part 1 19 - Jeff Mills - Preview 20 - Danilo Vigorito - Knap 21 - Andreas Saag - Camborele 22 - John Arnold - Respectful 23 - Jeff Mills - Tango 24 - Jeff Mills - Untitled 25 - Oliver Ho - Sacred Object (Track A) 26 - Paul Mac - More Over 27 - Gary Martin - Long Summer Nights 28 - Aaron Hedges - Watching Me 29 - DJ Rush - Midnight Confessions 30 - Mark Williams - Love Club 31 - Jeff Mills - 4art 32 - Jeff Mills - Untitled 33 - Samuel L Sessions - Core 34 - Jeff Mills - Untitled 35 - Jeff Mills - Sugar is Sweeter 36 - DJ Zank - Finger Four 37 - Jeff Mills - "see" Part 3 38 - Claude Young/J. Mills - Thought of Phutura Side B 39 - Jeff Mills - "the" Part 3 40 - Jeff Mills - Native High 41 - Jeff Mills - "light" Part 3 42 - Jeff Mills - Alarms Ben Sims Mix 43 - Jeff Mills - Untitled 44 - Aztec Mystic- Aguila 45 - Jeff Mills - See this Way
Re: (313) Assault on Precinct 13
a few comments to make about Assault On Precinct 13 first- one of my favourite movies- mainly because of that dark dark score- so raw & simple but so effective. two- love the remix that came out in the eighties (by john carpenter I think), but have never managed to pick it up on wax- just my dodgy old 80s cassette copy so far! and finally third- I'm fairly confident that this is not 'on-topic', but in the movie the main actress has possibly one of the finest pair of breasts ever put to celluloid : ) ..my apologies all, just couldn't resist.. but anyway, if anyone knows where i might get that 80s mix, I'm listening.. kev <> - Original Message - From: J. T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: (313) Assault on Precinct 13 s/track > >The CD's only half an hour long, and is (almost) entirely based around the > >main theme. Carpenter didn't have a lot of time or money to come up with a > >score - it took him three days. > > hmm. i'm a little baffled it's so popular then! i mean i like that song and > all but... > legowelt did a nice cover of it earlier this year as well. > > >Escape from NY is available on CD and LP, by the way. > > where? on what label? i think there was a version on cinevox at some point > but i never see it. some british version of the LP is on ebay with a opening > bid of 20$ (plus $6 shipping, bastard!) at the moment...a little bit more > than i'm willing to pay. anyways i dig the music in escape from ny more than > assault...that wicked cowbell electro/hiphop beat a! > > The Thing has some dope music too! the main soundtrack is by ennio > morricone, but there's this part where one of the characters is listening to > this crazy disco/funk track on a boombox, i am thinking it was done by jc..? > > jt > > _ > Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > >
Re: (313) Poison of Babylon (was Derrick May Melbourne)
> huh? > you were in a bar, honky tonks--a business that profits from selling the > drug alcohol--and you question someoone who wants to use a different drug > to the state sanctioned one. hey james, nice one, you said exactly what i wanted to say, but just couldn't organise it into words properly.. thats probably the drugs : ) but anyway, i'm with bill hicks on this one... each to their own... though you never see a rampaging group of loved up clubbers beating the cr*p out of each other..unlike people that take some other 'state sanctioned' substance.. anyway, lets not start a techno/drugs debate here.. or maybe we should?? k - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: Re: (313) Poison of Babylon (was Derrick May Melbourne) > > > > > > huh? > you were in a bar, honky tonks--a business that profits from selling the > drug alcohol--and you question someoone who wants to use a different drug > to the state sanctioned one. > jeez, try to be a little more open minded, maybe alcohol isn't for eveyone. > let people choose the recreational drug they want to take. > > james > > > > > > > "Cyclone Wehner" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> > ail.com.au> cc: (bcc: James Bucknell/ARD/AU/ReadersDigest) >Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne > 04/12/03 06:31 > AM > > > > > > > "Grandmas are catching the Holy Ghost in churches on Sunday mornings > without > taking drugs, why do you need that to feel this music?" > > They could have been undercover cops, Home is apparently very strict on > that > thing. > > ;) > > -- > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne > >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 4:46 PM > > > > >> I had at least two people ask me where they could buy drugs and gave > them > >> lectures > > > > what kind of lecture?? > > > > k > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:10 AM > > Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne > > > > > >> I had at least two people ask me where they could buy drugs and gave > them > >> lectures plus some wasted girl burnt me with her cigarette otherwise > >> there were good things for sure. I met some nice people, for sure. ;) > >> I think the best techno crowd I saw lately in Syd was at Biz-E's Chinese > >> Laundry with Kevin Saunderson, that was a really live crowd. > >> > >> -- > >> >From: David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit > > <313@hyperreal.org> > >> >Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne > >> >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 3:00 PM > >> > > >> > >> > Cyclone Wehner wrote: > >> > > >> >>Ace!!! > >> >>Better crowd. > >> >>Intimate. Two days of promotion and full house on a Wed. > >> >>Blood was spilled, but it happened. > >> >>Someone said it was "a statement" and it was that. I was scared the > > system > >> >>would blow up (he he Patrick, remember the time), but it held up. > >> >>He played Nina Simone's See Line Woman twice, Latin, techno, deep > house, > >> >>etc, etc, etc. > >> >> > >> > You know, the crowd that was at home nightclub on Saturday night would > >> > have to be one of the better (if not best) crowds that I've witnessed > >> > there over the years... And that's not just because of all the techno > >> > heads who descended on the place. > >> > > >> > > > > > >
Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne
> I had at least two people ask me where they could buy drugs and gave them > lectures what kind of lecture?? k - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne > I had at least two people ask me where they could buy drugs and gave them > lectures plus some wasted girl burnt me with her cigarette otherwise > there were good things for sure. I met some nice people, for sure. ;) > I think the best techno crowd I saw lately in Syd was at Biz-E's Chinese > Laundry with Kevin Saunderson, that was a really live crowd. > > -- > >From: David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne > >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 3:00 PM > > > > > Cyclone Wehner wrote: > > > >>Ace!!! > >>Better crowd. > >>Intimate. Two days of promotion and full house on a Wed. > >>Blood was spilled, but it happened. > >>Someone said it was "a statement" and it was that. I was scared the system > >>would blow up (he he Patrick, remember the time), but it held up. > >>He played Nina Simone's See Line Woman twice, Latin, techno, deep house, > >>etc, etc, etc. > >> > > You know, the crowd that was at home nightclub on Saturday night would > > have to be one of the better (if not best) crowds that I've witnessed > > there over the years... And that's not just because of all the techno > > heads who descended on the place. > > >
(313) Detroit pioneer Interviews
Anyone have suggestions for sites/ books with interviews with Detroit/Techno producers talking about music-making, production etc? kev <>
Re: (313) Chillage Idiots/Detroit sound
i think that tying yourself to having to use the classic Detroit instruments is probably a bad idea, as a big reason for the use of specific instruments was because they were relatively cheap at the time (303, 808 , 909 etc) .. I've read interviews with Kevin Saunderson where he very much says the same thing, and he now uses Cubase and a lot of plugins. I do know some producers that swear by their gear and refuse to use software, but thats mainly for reasons of sound quality- as you're always gonna get a fresher livelier mix using a combination of different sound sources, as opposed to one output from a PC, even if its a good soundcard. I also know a couple of people that uphold this 'ideal' about only using the original gear. I personally feel that they are upholding some romantic ideal that the real Detroit producers wouldn't live by.. I'm sure if Juan Atkins were 18 now, he'd be using the newest freshest music making gear out there- not 20 year old technology.. just to totally contradict my previous statements however, I'd love to get my hands on some of those original bits of kit- but can't afford them! kev <> - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'wojtek' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: RE: (313) Chillage Idiots/Detroit sound > I am not a producer or a DJ. So from a consumer of the material. I would say > I think you can have a detroit 'feel' to the music without using classic > detroit instuments. theres a lot of music that has a detroit 'feel' to it. > it's the string sounds, the high hat programing and the warm percussive > percusion. the future feel. > > there a hiphip instumental track on roots manuva's 'dub come save me' (apols > cant remember the title) which to me is a detroit inspired track, whether mr > roots would think that or not, I don't know. but that's how I hear it. > > more later. just wanted to chip in. > > rav. > > > > Which brings me to this: Can an artist be considered Detroit (or > simply techno) ONLY if he or she uses the classic Detroit instruments > and melodies/style or is it more about the energy that the music > carries?
Re: (313) downloading, peer-to-peer, etc
> (i tend to believe, as a producer, that all music, as a > form of art, should be free and that no one should make a > living as a musician) I tend to believe, as a producer and label owner, that everyone has a right to make a living in something that they enjoy and feel their talent lies. I think that saying all music should be free is ridiculous. If we make something that people enjoy, we deserve something back- so that we can go eat too! I know what you are getting at, about art being free, but we just don't live in that ideal world.. we've all got bills to pay. rant over.. kev <>
(313) knights of the jaguar rip-off
hey people i remember when aztec mystic originally came out, there was a major label rip-off version floating about at the time, but i never got to hear it.. anyone know anything about it, or have it?? just curious on ur thoughts.. and also feel i should start a new topic after my surgeon post! kev <>
Re: (313) Does the Surgeon..
As someone new to this list, its interesting to see people discuss these matters about Surgeon, and what is and isn't on-topic! As far as I can see from the tracklist, though I can't listen to it yet- there's a lot of 313 stuff and music that I consider closely related to 'Detroit Techno' in there, at the very least these tracks: Dave Angel - Airborne (Carl Craig Drums Suck mix) Inner City - Buena Vida (Carl Craig mix) - KMS Kraftwerk - Tour De France - EMI Carl Craig - Tres Demented - Planet E Model 500 - No UFO's (D mix) - Metroplex Underground Resistance - Amazon - UR so as for "basically no. and based on the mix posted the other day, its not 313 related" it just seems a strange comment to make based on some of the content of Surgeons mix? Anyhow, If I'm going to comment on this, I guess its only fair I should at least offer my opinion. I think there's a lot of music out there that is related to Detroit Techno- whether its the 80s Italian artists recently discussed as inspiring the whole thing, or artists not strictly making 'techno' but still making quality electronic music derived from the city or retaining the innovative attitude.. people such as Amp Fiddler for example.. I think all these people are fair game. (but hey, I don't make the rules!) as for surgeon, i think his music and DJing is getting more interesting all the time, and I'm very much looking forward to seeing him play in Manc tomorrow night. If I get a chance to chat, I'll mention to him that he has inspired much debate on our humble forum! Personally, I think it makes sense to consider him as relevant to this forum, though not the 'most' relevant of artists.. As a final thing, I'd say we're all 313 at heart, music is just something that is very hard to pin down and what I see as Detroit, someone else won't.. don't let the geekiness get in the way of the music! kev <> - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Placid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: RE: (313) Does the Surgeon.. > >really command 2 days worth of solid 313 postings > > Basically yes. > > Surgeon makes electronic dance music in the same vein of many widely > reknowned producers from Detroit and beyond. In the same way that I don't > particulary like a lot of what Richie Hawtin does but accept that as a > subject, it's on-topic, I feel that Surgeon is on-topic too. But I happen to > like everything I've heard produced by Surgeon btw! > > k
(313) surgeon in manc
am not sure if this has been listed yet (?), but Surgeon is playing this Friday at the Phoenix in Manchester.. (also Aquasky in a breaks type room).. should be a good one! kev <>
Re: Re: (313) rolando mix/ interview on Radio1
> yeah maybe, or perhaps he thinks the dodgy trance he's been making his living from has a limited shelf-life and is seeking a new bandwagon, let's not rush to be too forgiving shall we? > > Dan. i know what you mean dan, he has kinda gone from one style to another a bit too quickly.. he's kind of at that stage where its just about bearable, I just hope it doesn't get any sillier, where people would start hailing him as an actual 'techno' dj and not just another bandwagon jumper that he really is. anyway- looking forward to the technasia and other mixes on his show. although he is a big piece of edam.. kev <> - Original Message - From: Dan Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) rolando mix/ interview on Radio1 > yeah maybe, or perhaps he thinks the dodgy trance he's been making his living from has a limited shelf-life and is seeking a new bandwagon, let's not rush to be too forgiving shall we? > > Dan. > > P.S. I met a very interesting lurker on Sat at Public Life, but unfortunately have forgotten his name in the haze of intoxication. We were talking about unecessary posting on the list(ahem). Could you drop me a line off-list, would be nice to make contact. > > You wrote: > > i think fergie is slowly making amends for many years of promoting cheese. > > we must all be adult and forgive him for his sins! > > > > kev > > <> > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:37 PM > > Subject: Re: (313) rolando mix/ interview on Radio1 > > > > > > > On 13/10/03 1:47 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > Rolando had an interview/ 30 min mix on Radio1 (Fergie) on Friday > > night.. > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1_aod.shtml?fergie > > > > > > > > (you'll need to fast forward halfway thru the show to get to the mix) > > > > > > > > i haven't checked it myself yet so can't offer any comment. enjoy.. > > > > > > > > kev > > > > <> > > > > > > > > > > Fergiegr > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) rolando mix/ interview on Radio1
i think fergie is slowly making amends for many years of promoting cheese. we must all be adult and forgive him for his sins! kev <> - Original Message - From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) rolando mix/ interview on Radio1 > On 13/10/03 1:47 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi all > > > > Rolando had an interview/ 30 min mix on Radio1 (Fergie) on Friday night.. > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1_aod.shtml?fergie > > > > (you'll need to fast forward halfway thru the show to get to the mix) > > > > i haven't checked it myself yet so can't offer any comment. enjoy.. > > > > kev > > <> > > > > Fergiegr > > >
(313) rolando mix/ interview on Radio1
hi all Rolando had an interview/ 30 min mix on Radio1 (Fergie) on Friday night.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio1_aod.shtml?fergie (you'll need to fast forward halfway thru the show to get to the mix) i haven't checked it myself yet so can't offer any comment. enjoy.. kev <>
Re: (313) Cajual / Relief
chris i'd definitely recommend the first Relief compilation, future sound of chicago 1. lots of essential stuff by sneak, paul johnson, green velvet etc.. its not so disco orientated, but very raw and funky.. Theres also a vol2 which is v good too, compiled by Derrick Carter.. good luck searching kev <> - Original Message - From: Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@Hyperreal.ORG> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: (313) Cajual / Relief > > Hello 313 Peepz, > > I was hoping that some of you good folks could help me out with some record > buying info. > I like some of the Cajual & Relief stuff / tracky, disco-sampled house that > i've heard and could use > some tips regarding the ESSENTIAL stuff released on these labels. I was > spinning techno-only > around the time that these labels were hot and, as a consequence, probably > missed out on many gems. > > Any help much appreciated. > Chris. > > > > >
Re: (313) classic detroit gear?
there is a cool book i saw once (from about 1990) with interviews with a very young kevin saunderson and derrick may.. it had a lot of info in there about the gear they used. but anyway, i lost the name of it.. if anyone knows?? the microKorg I use now has some nice sounds.. - Original Message - From: Matt Chester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: RE: (313) classic detroit gear? > Novation SuperNova 2 also does a pretty damn good Prophet emulation > (pretty good on the Pro 1 too - though the FutureRetro 777 does a better > job for that)... > > Matt Chester > > 11th Hour Technology > www.11-hour.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10 October 2003 07:59 > To: Odeluga, Ken; House of Suki; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) classic detroit gear? > > > - Original Message - > From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "House of Suki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:58 AM > Subject: RE: (313) classic detroit gear? > > > > Sequential Circuits Prophet 5. > > > > Some modern synths have this as an emulation patch. Was it the > > 'stringy' sound on Nude Photo'? > > P5 sounds to me like that crunchy Prescription synth sound. You know the > one. Signature Ron Trent and Chez Damier. If I was to buy any one piece > of vintage gear, this would be it, but I ain't b/c the Nord Modular does > a pretty damn good job of emulating and extending it. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >
(313) classic detroit gear?
hello peeps I'd be interested in peoples suggestions of what they consider classic detroit gear? there's the obvious DX synths and Roland synths/Drum machines that spring to mind... any other ideas people?? just curious kev <>
(313) Radio One!!!
hello 313sters, so far my attempts at mailing have not worked- if u are reading this- i have finally got thru!! anyway- radio 1.. i think they are kind of a nasty compromise.. u do get the odd interesting mix or tune every now and then. fergie played one of my tracks, which was nice cos there was no promotion, no hype, he just liked it and played it.. normally, especially with the likes of tongy, seb fontaine etc, you won't get things played unless there is serious promotion or connections behind something. my major problem with radio 1 is the essential mix.. it really has gone downhill. i rememeber the days of tuning in and being surprised- new sounds, new DJs.. now its a mixture of the same croneys, same sound most weeks.. the recent exception being an excellent mix by DJ Heather from Chicago- that was cool... anyway, theres my ten pence worth.. feel free to rip me to shreds : ) kevin G de la Wild Loops
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier
dammit...just ordered from amazon :(
Kev
- Original Message -
From: "Gavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Kev'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Laurent Garnier
> Yes, 1st of october it's released. Word of advice, if you order it direct
> from FCOM, you get 2 free bonus CD's/
>
> Et voila.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 11 September 2003 15:14
> To: Grammenos, Peter; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Laurent Garnier
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Any info on when this is available / where from?
>
> Kev
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:06 PM
> Subject: (313) Laurent Garnier
>
>
> >
> > A new release from Garnier with three mixes he's done over the past few
> > years, one in detroit. Was anyone at the detroit show ? Too bad they
> didn't
> > add the Sonar mix from this year!
> >
> >
> > Laurent Garnier : Excess Luggage
> >
> > Extremely limited release! Features 3 live mix CDs. Disc 1 'Mix At
Sonar',
> > recorded live in June 2000, disc 2 'Mix In Detroit', recorded live in
> > November 2002, and disc 3 'PBB Late Night Mix'. Packaged in a metal
> > 'mini-suitcase', which folds out, and features room for 2 more discs,
> which
> > will be available exclusively through the F Communications label website
> > ('10 Years At The Rex Club Mix', & 'BBC Annie On One Mix'). Also
includes
> a
> > 20 page color booklet designesd especially for this tour.
> >
> > ---
> > Peter Grammenos
> > Goldman Sachs & Co.
> > Tel : 212.902.2446
> > ---
> >
>
>
>
Re: (313) Laurent Garnier
Hi,
Any info on when this is available / where from?
Kev
- Original Message -
From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: (313) Laurent Garnier
>
> A new release from Garnier with three mixes he's done over the past few
> years, one in detroit. Was anyone at the detroit show ? Too bad they
didn't
> add the Sonar mix from this year!
>
>
> Laurent Garnier : Excess Luggage
>
> Extremely limited release! Features 3 live mix CDs. Disc 1 'Mix At Sonar',
> recorded live in June 2000, disc 2 'Mix In Detroit', recorded live in
> November 2002, and disc 3 'PBB Late Night Mix'. Packaged in a metal
> 'mini-suitcase', which folds out, and features room for 2 more discs,
which
> will be available exclusively through the F Communications label website
> ('10 Years At The Rex Club Mix', & 'BBC Annie On One Mix'). Also includes
a
> 20 page color booklet designesd especially for this tour.
>
> ---
> Peter Grammenos
> Goldman Sachs & Co.
> Tel : 212.902.2446
> ---
>
Re: (313) test
I guess I must love noodles then :) Kev - Original Message - From: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Kev'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: RE: (313) test > I got one of their early samplers called Offering with has some nice techno > on it. But they are moving more and more away from that this area into the > wibbly wobby world of leftfield easy listening. aka noodly music. lol. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 August 2003 16:53 > To: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) test > > > Ah well..I really liked the Tiga and Playgroup remixes (apparently the > Playgroup mix came about after he was denied use of the original for his Dj > Kicks mix...and so just 're interpreted' it in the studio himself) but I > wasn't too keen on the Ghost Cauldron or Princess Superstar stuff. > > it is one of my favorite labels though...so I'm very bias :) > > And yes, the online shop staff are great...although I have an order thats 3 > weeks late...I should really contact them > > Kev > > > > I don't know, I was a bit disappointed with several of their more > > recent > releases, especially those most reprsented on said 2CD+DVD comp, like > they're trying to catch on the electro-clash wave (Tiga, the Playgroup remix > of "Behind the wheel", Ghost Cauldron, Princess Superstar) or noodly, jazzy > trip-hop such as Tosca... this being said, they've got a brilliant > catalogue, and the people at the online shop are incredibly nice ! > > Gwendal > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Kev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:43 PM > > > To: lisa; Mann, Ravinder [CCS] > > > Cc: 'Langsman, Marc'; '313' > > > Subject: Re: (313) test > > > > > > > > > Anything on !K7 is generally awesome... > > > > > > k7.com for more stuff with a ton of real audio clips. They also let > > > you order some albums to download as mp3 which is pretty > > > groundbreaking. > > > > > > Kev > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: "'Langsman, Marc'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313'" > > > <313@hyperreal.org> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: (313) test > > > > > > > > > > I got a promo of this and having listened to/watched it, I > > > think it's > > > > worth the money - a decent variety of tunes. I would > > > totally buy it if I > > > > didn't already have it. > > > > > > > > lisa > > > > > > > > > > > > Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: > > > > > I also ordered the !K7 150 collection 2CD and 1DVD > > > containing 12 promo > > > vids. > > > > > Not very techno but hey for 10.99 it not bad at all. > > > > > > > > > > Rav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 28 August 2003 13:55 > > > > > To: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]'; '313' > > > > > Subject: RE: (313) test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roger roger ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > > > > >>From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM > > > > >>To: '313' > > > > >>Subject: (313) test > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>'is there anybody out there' > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > This message is intended only for the personal and > > > confidential use of > > > the > > > > > designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the > > > > > intended > > > recipient > > > > > of this message you are hereby notified that any review, > > > dissemination, > > > > > distribution or copying of this message is strictly > > > prohibited. This > > > > > communication is for information purposes only and should not be > > > regarded as > > > > > an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy > > > any financial > > > > > product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or > > > as an official > > > > > statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot > > > be guaranteed > > > to be > > > > > secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this > > > information > > > > > is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon > > > as such. All > > > > > information is subject to change without notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) test
Ah well..I really liked the Tiga and Playgroup remixes (apparently the Playgroup mix came about after he was denied use of the original for his Dj Kicks mix...and so just 're interpreted' it in the studio himself) but I wasn't too keen on the Ghost Cauldron or Princess Superstar stuff. it is one of my favorite labels though...so I'm very bias :) And yes, the online shop staff are great...although I have an order thats 3 weeks late...I should really contact them Kev > I don't know, I was a bit disappointed with several of their more recent releases, especially those most reprsented on said 2CD+DVD comp, like they're trying to catch on the electro-clash wave (Tiga, the Playgroup remix of "Behind the wheel", Ghost Cauldron, Princess Superstar) or noodly, jazzy trip-hop such as Tosca... this being said, they've got a brilliant catalogue, and the people at the online shop are incredibly nice ! > Gwendal > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:43 PM > > To: lisa; Mann, Ravinder [CCS] > > Cc: 'Langsman, Marc'; '313' > > Subject: Re: (313) test > > > > > > Anything on !K7 is generally awesome... > > > > k7.com for more stuff with a ton of real audio clips. They > > also let you > > order some albums to download as mp3 which is pretty groundbreaking. > > > > Kev > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "'Langsman, Marc'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313'" > > <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:38 PM > > Subject: Re: (313) test > > > > > > > I got a promo of this and having listened to/watched it, I > > think it's > > > worth the money - a decent variety of tunes. I would > > totally buy it if I > > > didn't already have it. > > > > > > lisa > > > > > > > > > Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: > > > > I also ordered the !K7 150 collection 2CD and 1DVD > > containing 12 promo > > vids. > > > > Not very techno but hey for 10.99 it not bad at all. > > > > > > > > Rav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: 28 August 2003 13:55 > > > > To: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]'; '313' > > > > Subject: RE: (313) test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roger roger ! > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > > > >>From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM > > > >>To: '313' > > > >>Subject: (313) test > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>'is there anybody out there' > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > This message is intended only for the personal and > > confidential use of > > the > > > > designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended > > recipient > > > > of this message you are hereby notified that any review, > > dissemination, > > > > distribution or copying of this message is strictly > > prohibited. This > > > > communication is for information purposes only and should not be > > regarded as > > > > an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy > > any financial > > > > product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or > > as an official > > > > statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot > > be guaranteed > > to be > > > > secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this > > information > > > > is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon > > as such. All > > > > information is subject to change without notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) test
Anything on !K7 is generally awesome... k7.com for more stuff with a ton of real audio clips. They also let you order some albums to download as mp3 which is pretty groundbreaking. Kev - Original Message - From: "lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Langsman, Marc'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) test > I got a promo of this and having listened to/watched it, I think it's > worth the money - a decent variety of tunes. I would totally buy it if I > didn't already have it. > > lisa > > > Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: > > I also ordered the !K7 150 collection 2CD and 1DVD containing 12 promo vids. > > Not very techno but hey for 10.99 it not bad at all. > > > > Rav > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 28 August 2003 13:55 > > To: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]'; '313' > > Subject: RE: (313) test > > > > > > > > Roger roger ! > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM > >>To: '313' > >>Subject: (313) test > >> > >> > >>'is there anybody out there' > >> > >> > > > > > > -- -- > > -- > > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the > > designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient > > of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, > > distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This > > communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as > > an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial > > product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official > > statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be > > secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information > > is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All > > information is subject to change without notice. > > > > >
Re: (313) test
Yep, came very near to drowning in mine / other peoples sweat at times :) Sitting outside you could see the steam pouring out the entrances to each warehouse building. Pretty nuts. Kev - Original Message - From: "Martijn de Blaauw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: RE: (313) test > Nice...must have been bloddy hot in there..u can feel the sweat dripping of > some of the pics > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: donderdag 28 augustus 2003 16:32 > Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313' > Onderwerp: RE: (313) test > > > > Well I missed LFO and Guy called G due to temperature overload / too > mullered to know what was on where but I have to say I was really impressed > overall and it certainly kicked the [EMAIL PROTECTED] out of homelands. What > I caught of > Mills's set was very enjoyable - also sneak+carter back2back was great > [although the sound in that room wasn't the best] - groove armada seemed to > play quite alot of old skool house which went down well. I wandered in near > the start of Laurent Garniers set and wasn't too impressed, but when I came > back in later he picked things up a lot and it was really kicking :) [given > he was playing for 5hrs or something daft that was kinda fair enough]. I > also seem to remember that kraft kuts guy slicing up prodigy out of space > and lee perry chase the devil which was worth the money alone !! > > ... I think my only real complaint was the fact that bottles of water were > being confiscated on the door and the bar certainly wasn't cheap and also > used some crazy buy-in-advance 'bar token' system which was pretty annoying. > Other than that for 30quid you cant really argue ! > > If anyones interested there are some pics I took of the eve at > http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/users/mbl/pics [you'll have to escuse the > randomness i.e. us in motorway service station the next morning pics etc !] > > Peace, > marc > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:05 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313' > > Subject: RE: (313) test > > > > > > > > Was the Tribal Gathering thing any good?? > > > > > > > > > > robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 28/08/2003 15:01:46 > > > > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: "Mann, Ravinder [CCS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org> > > > > Subject: RE: (313) test > > > > > > > > > very very quiet on the list today where is everyone ? > > > > > > I listened to LFO 'Frequencies' last night in anticipation > > of new CD > > > on > > warp > > > and it blew me away all over again. The power of 'We Are Back' Do > > > anyone have the release date to hand ? > > > > > > > just got the new three tracker on warp and saw him live at > > tribal on saturday night and i have to say that he's gone a > > lot harder, faster and more abrasive for the new stuff. the > > live performance was ok but the rig couldn't handle the > > levels that he was throwing at it. > > > > so if you're expecting another frequencies then u might be > > disappointed > > > > i must be getting old, i like my techno a lot slower these > > days (yeah and i mean techno, not house) > > > > > > robin... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > -- > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the > designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient > of > this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, > distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This > communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as > an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial > product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official > statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be > secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information > is > complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All > information is subject to change without notice. > > >
