RE: (313) Re: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Underground Resistance - Hi-Tech Dreams
You guys are doing some awesome work Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 Subject: (313) Re: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Underground Resistance - Hi-Tech Dreams Glad ya like it. :) I shot the pics and T.Linder did the design work. -Angie On 2/20/07, Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Detroit Techno Militia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 21 February 2007 01:29 > > To: JSS > > Cc: robin; list 313 > > Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: (313) Underground Resistance - Hi-Tech > > Dreams > > > > http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/53/49/ > > > > Sonic samples are up. > > That cover is wicked. Big ups whoever designed that! > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
RE: (313) Disco D 1980-2007
Just a sad thing, All I can say right now,, RIP Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:08 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) Disco D 1980-2007 Dave Shayman was an extremely intelligent, talented guy, who was a joy to watch DJ, and great fun to hang out with. He was a huge supporter of the Iowa City scene. He played here several times, as recently as last summer, and was talking about coming back here this spring. http://www.urb.com/permalink/243/Dave-Shayman-(aka-Disco-D)-1980-2007.ht ml
RE: (313) RIAA at it again
Once again this shows how behind the recording industry is with modern and (not so Modern, mixtapes) brand of marketing. What is also very funny about all of this is that with all of these usless RIAA arrests and lawsuits against napster and other websites the industry is STILL in the cellar. As a matter of fact 2006 was the worse year for cd sales since they've starting registering sales. The number 1 CD of the year only sold 3.5 million. WHAT's their excuse now? They've cracked down on illegal downloading; They've made their arrest; Done their scare tatics and sales are worse than ever. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:48 AM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) RIAA at it again Record Industry Bad. Tell me something we don't know. I hope DJ Drama goes to trial on this because he'll make chimps out of the RIAA. That's one thing about liking techno -- you don't have to hold your nose and buy major label releases, because there are none. On 1/19/07, David Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dont know if anyone else has seen this > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/18/arts/music/18dram.html?_r=2&oref=slo > gin&oref=slogin > > Cheers > BT >
RE: (313)MANHATTON
Are there any techno places in Manhatton. I'll be there jan. 11th through jan 16th? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) deep acidic ish mix Good-looking tracklist, d/ling now! ;) On 12/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a mix of deep acidic ish. > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ish > > > 192 kbps 107mb > http://www.jameshurlbut.net/mp3/mixes/deepacidishmix.mp3 > > Acid Test - Test One - Playhouse > DJ ESP - Slow-mo - Definitive > Soylent Green - La Forza Del Destino - Playhouse Redshape - Coffee And > Cigarettes - Delsin Richard Bartz - EDP Tracks 2 - Kurbel Adam Proll - > Fetch My Blades - Cocoon Phage, Daniel Dreier - Plumber's Workshop - > Klang Paldrame - Drek - Communique Cocamoto exclusivo - Acidique - > Must dj deeon - akceier 8 (mat remix) - basic beat Johannes Heil - > german rebel a1 Darkmountaingroup - Lose Control (synths) - Buzzin Fly > Omar S - U - fxhe Hakim Murphy - Planet Detroit Blake Baxter - When a > Thought Becomes U - UR Dan Bell - Bounce - Klang A J Scent - Sleaze me > Off (instr) - RZ A J Scent - Sleaze me Off (vocal) - RZ Richie Hawtin > - the Tunnel - mnus Mehdispoz - Time for Acid Rain - RZ I:Cube - Un > proton pour toi. un neutron pour moi - Versatile Mike Shannon - Onon > Lights - Itiswhatitis ? > > > > > >
RE: (313) Disco D on CNN
The success couldn't have happened to a nicer, down to earth guy who is by no means a glory hog. He does like the fame ,,but who in the music or entertainment business don't. Everyone can't be James Stinson. The commercial stuff he produces is stuff he's been into for a long time, whether we like it or not. He's always been into other genres including mainstream music. To me that's not selling out. If the populus actually wanted minimal techno loops for their ringtones we all would be rich, but they don't. Hey wait a minute, did I just create a 313 project for all of us?? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:28 PM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Disco D on CNN seek- You sound so angry when you speak of Dave (we'll call him by his real name since the other seems to get you upset). Is there something personal there? I'm with the others on this. Be happy for him-he's made a career out of doing what he loves. Not many can say that AND get recognized for it too. Let's start saving the stress for more important things in our lives. d --- seek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Kent Williams" > If people want to complain about his work that's fine, but he's pieced > together a living out of the opportunities presented to him, and > there's no inherent shame in that. We all got to pay the bills. > > > > Yeah, there's no shame in waiting tables, either, and it can pay the > bills and it doesn't reek of a desire to be a star in a sick culture > no matter the price of fame. And he sought out those "presented" > opportunities: > he's a glory hog, obviously. That is a shame, imo. > > btw, I finally saw that "refreshing" VISA ad with 'Looking for the > Perfect Beat', showing on a tv in a store where I'd purchased a daily > 'paper (reading: it's fun-damental), and was struck by how much the > dick with the checkbook looked like a straight/normal > version of Disco D! And the worm wasn't on the > beat, either. Lame. Not even cool, > not even a tiny, worm-sized bit. > > Seriously, though, how can any of you take some white guy in the year > 2006 calling himself Disco D seriously, seriously?!?! Disco D!!! > Disco D > It's just too fncking funny > Are you all sure that guy's not really Ali G, taking the piss? > > seek > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: (313) Photek (was - it's a rave in hart plaza)
I still listen to all of his old stuff constantly. But I've seen him twice down south hopping and praying for the late 90's stuff. Not only has he not produced anything that equals the stuff back then, he also won't play any old stuff in his dj sets. He's basically turned into the type of dnb dj he used to rail agaisnt in the 90's. Sad Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:48 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Photek (was - it's a rave in hart plaza) ha good one was just putting his Modus Operandi into my iTunes yesterday Hidden Camera is the bomb!! - Original Message - From: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: (313) Photek (was - it's a rave in hart plaza) > Agreed, despite repeated attempts I've never managed to get into Solaris. > It's all about the 94/95 stuff when it comes to Photek imo. > > This is another good one: > > http://www.discogs.com/release/1470 > > You wrote: >> As far as I'm aware Photek has never played live but I've not been >> following >> him lately. Can't say a agree re. Solaris Ian, this was when I stopped >> listening to him! ;) Personally I prefer the genius of his earlier stuff, >> particularly this: >> >> http://www.discogs.com/release/309 >
RE: (313) OT ARTIST PRODUCT SPONSERING OR TESTERS
Have any of you guys ever done this or are currently doing it. Do your contracts include money or does it only include equipment and other advertising gear. I've been approached by a company but I have no experience in negotiating something like this. Thanks Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May you wont get another performance from p909 but one of the guys did give me a couple livesets which I will post this weekend. they have a bunch more, plus an unreleased album (was to be called acid technology 2)... I've worked on both taylor and deitrich about getting my hands on this stuff. p909 was magical *stars in eyes*.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i was in a similar boat around 98. unfortunately i have seen so many > artists who i love today between the years of 97-99 when i knew to > little (or was not sober enough) to fully appreciate it. fortunately i > have seen a lot of the artists i am talking about recently such as > may, beyer, (i don't think you will like this one but...) hawtin. now > if i could only get see another cari lekebusch or prototype 909 (i > know if will NEVER get this chance) performance. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:09 pm > Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May > > > > > its gotta be up there. really, the first all techno party i went to > > was in pittsburgh in may 98, featuring vapourspace, christian smith, > > etc. that was really fun, but not nearly enough beautiful melodic > > stuff. i actually knew so little at the time i saw may that i didnt > > know if he was playing house or techno. little did i know that they > > were essentially the same thing, and thats what he was playing. he > > was a maniac that night! > > > > tom > >
RE: (313) New Rob Hood
I love it Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Benoît Pueyo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:11 PM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) New Rob Hood on music man ?? yeah its ak iller -- Benoît. Martin Dust a écrit : > Anyone else feeling this release? Loving it meself... > > > >
RE: (313)OT Kanye Revisited
Never been a fan,, but Geesh what a musically rich album. Perfectly used samples, appropriately utilized guest stars, and intelligent lyrics. Kind of surprised. Hadn't liked a rap album by modern rappers this much since the Roots or Outkast's Atliens. Wondering if rap fans today would appreciate it. Fvaorite song is,"Crack Music",,maybe that's the title. Msn is letting you listen to it for free now but they don't list the song titles. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Guilherme M. Arantes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:26 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: radio slave re-edits carl craig On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 10:58:16AM +0200, Simon Vrebos wrote: > Carl released it... on Just Another Day -> > http://www.discogs.com/release/332450 CC released the ambient/beatless version a few months back. But if you listen to this bootleg, it has a 4/4 beat + some samples layed on top of Darkness taken from Another Day. However, CC will soon release a 12"on Planet E with his own ``dance'' mixes of Darkness (see: http://www.undergroundgallery.jp/realaudio/PE65282-1.ram ). Hope this make things clear to you. Regards, G > > ;-) > > >On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 07:01:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> radio slave re-edit of 'darkness' available at piccadilly! > > > >so is this a bootleg? if so, the bootlegger is actually releasing his > >thing before the real artist did so! hahaha... This should go to the > >hall of fame. > > > >G > > > > > > > > --- http://www.dinamicas.art.br
RE: (313) Dimitri Pike joins DTM RECON:313
Welcome to DTM and Recon Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dimitri Pike joins DTM RECON:313 Sorry for spam ;-) From Detroit Techno Militia : Dimitri Pike joins DTM RECON:313 http://detroittechnomilitia.com/main/content/section/24/120/ Detroit Techno Militia is very proud to announce our newest RECON:313 DJ, Dimitri Pike. DJ/Producer from Belgium, he play a pure US techno, he has produced for the legendary label Matrix (Detroit), playing at Tresor (Berlin) and Fuse In Festival pre-after party's (Detroit-EA/DTM). Dimitri's sound is inspired from the deeper to the harder vibes of techno music. Download Dimitri's new mix - Memories of a City http://detroittechnomilitia.com/main/index.php?option=com_remository&Ite mid=63&func=fileinfo&parent=category&filecatid=35 Dimitri runs some of the best detroit techno websites around! Please visit: http://wildtek.free.fr http://teknology.free.fr http://313tm.blogspot.com -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://wildtek.blogspot.com http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
RE: (313) Hello 313, I am....
Name : Ja'Maul Redmond Age : 35 Place I live : Charlotte, NC USA City I was born in : Flint, MI usa Other Cities I've lived in : Fayetteville NC, Ashville NC, Detroit MI, Actually Southfield MI. How long been into Detroit music: When "Clear" Came out then shortly afterwards I went into a hip-hop and then Prince phase. Then somewhere in the nineties I started going to a exgirlfriend's sister's JACK parties in DC. We were @ her crib after the parties and she told me about Some new records she loves but were to afraid to play. One was Alarms by Mills and the other I think was an Old UR. (She was playing mainly jack house records back then). Fave Live act: Prince (Lovesexy Concert) Fave Live act (techno): UR @this years festival @ Green Velevet a few years back. Fave club (for techno): Don't have one Webpage : www.activ-analog.com and www.detroittechnomilitia.com -- Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: matt kane's brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:28 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Hello 313, I am man, 313 is too much like livejournal this morning :) Name : Matt Kane's Brain Age : 25 Place I live : Providence, RI, US City I was born in : Providence, RI, US Other Cities I've lived in : Johnston, Kingston, Narragansett, Cranston, and Cumberland (all little bits of Rhode Island); Grenoble, France How long been into Detroit music: I first heard it in 96 or 97 on Ken Ishii's Mix-Up 3 CD (Octave One's I Believe, Strings of the Strings of Life. Didn't know it was Detroit at the time, though. What turned me on to Detroit: I guess I already answered that. Fave Live act: Peter Gabriel Fave Live act (techno): Underworld Fave club (for techno): I think the best time I ever had at a techno club was at the Waterfront (or is it Riverfront?) in Rotterdam. Ended up there by accident. I was supposed to see Aril Brikha somewhere else but they wouldn't let me in :( Fave club (currently): All the good weeklies around here got canned, and the only clubs that still play techno are VERY shady. Webpage : www.hydrogenproject.com -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
RE: (313) EA afterparty Sunday
Alan Oldham and Rob Hood both performed as if 1000 people were there. It was inspirational to see those guys perform to that level even though it was an extremely small crowd. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:52 PM To: Chana Goodman; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) EA afterparty Sunday Maan what a Bumer I left when Scan 7 left but had to live through Ultradyne and DJ digital fleeing, heart wrenching. So I guess my big question is...did Rob Hood end up performing. Please say no... heard the promoter might have lost thousands, ouch. I did not ask for my money back. chana
RE: (313) Fuse-In techno (Straight Ahead Techno).
While some of you are on the topic of "Straight ahead", "Bangin","german" or "Looped" techno. I have to say that this years festival has really made me question my taste of this particular genre. I've always been a fan of this music mainely because of Rob Hood, Old Mills, Jay Denham and others,therefore I've always defended the likes of looped based techno. But with UR completely blowing me away with their LIVE Band + sequnecer set and the fact that I experienced too many lifeless, pegged in the red, bang fests from the likes of Steve Stoll and Luciano, to name a few. I started to slowly find myself leaving stages or rooms (at afterparties) that previously would've entyertained me. As the weekend progressed I found myself advoiding that sound all together. Don't get me wrong, with the right d.j. it still can be inspirational. Alan Oldham, gave the best DJ performance of the weekend to just 50 people at the EA afterparty and Mike Huckaby played the most eclectic bangin set @ The Substance afterparty. But all the others started to sound just repetitive and quite frankly JUST Plain LOUD. Even my own live set was a bit un-inspirational too myself. The quality and variety of the festival ( Especially electro) really opened my ears to to some good talent and not just the majority of those that can just beat match or produce bangin beats. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:20 AM To: 'Garrett McGrath' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Fuse-In techno Great of you to point that out. Yeah...I guess I wouldn't have to ask if I was there huh? Little salt in the wound? Or just an amazing grasp of the obvious? **sulking off to more missed fest depression** Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems > -Original Message- > From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:02 PM > To: Stoddard, Kamal > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Fuse-In techno > > On Jun 1, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: > > >> straight ahead (german) techno > >> > > > > What does this refer to nowadays though? > > dunno. if you'd been there, you'd know exactly what i mean. >
RE: (313) Stevie Wonder ? DO NOT PRE_ORDER
The Album that was supposed to drop June of 2004 and then pushed back until May 3rd of this year and then pushed back again until June 14th and then again until June 21st,,, May NEVER Drop. As of now it is on hold with no release date. The label apparently thinks it will not make any money and decided to shelve it. But what's shady about it is that MOTOWN has not made a comment on it and still are allowing pre-orders to be made on their site as well as their major distributors site even though they have no plans of releasing it yet. Stevie Wonder is back in the studio RE_Working,,whatever that means,,, the album. Stevie Wonder also hasn't said much but was on The Tom Joyner Morning Show and slipped up and said that he's in the studio "WORKING" on the album. Being that it's a comedy show, they were joking about how one can still work on an album that is due in less than two weeks. Out of respect they sort of let it go. Recently a small story on the whole controversy has finally been posted on Stevie's Site. http://www.stevie-wonder.com/news.html Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Anya K Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:42 AM To: Jason Brunton Cc: D1; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Stevie Wonder ? It's on Motown. http://www.stevie-wonder.com/albums.html http://www.motown.com Haven't yet heard it but will do at some point. Always had a very soft spot for Stevie Wonder. On Tuesday, May 24, 2005, at 09:21 Europe/London, Jason Brunton wrote: > I'm a fairly recent convert to Stevie Wonder so I'd be interested in > hearing it- do you know what label its on? > > cheers > > Jason > > > On 24 May 2005, at 01:06, D1 wrote: > >> Anyone heard his new album yet ? >> Or anyone interested? >> Eamonn / D1 >> >> >> >> >
RE: (313) 313 meetup @ Forans?
I would like to meet everyone also but I can't seem to place the party @ Forans everyone is talking about. I've only looked on Detroitluv and technotourist ,,, maybe I'm over looking it or maybe they aren't listing the location in the headin. Can someone help out.? Who's playing? Is A 313er headlining? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:01 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 meetup @ Forans? Cool, wouldnt miss it. Cant wait to meet everyone. Diana, Im excited to see you. Been a long time. But Im not sure if youll recognize me since I had my baby, it left me with a bit of a, mmm... defect. just in case heres my pic: http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4117f7c8_1444f/bc/images/IMGP3091a.gif?BCyGk jCBG9.yRGsh --- diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that's such an old picture. you're going down > Greg.;) > > > --- Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Cool, is it a big place? how will we identify > > each other? > > > > > > I just did a quick Google images search and am > > relieved to say that > > > there aren't any pictures of me that I could > point > > you at. > > > > > > Maybe we need a secret rave handshake? > > > > http://mine-mine.mine.nu/Diana-unmasked.jpg > > > > :) > > > > - Greg (the fat old double-chinned [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the > left > > ... ugh) > > > > > > Discover Yahoo! > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check > it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > >
RE: (313) Out-of-towner festival attendee roll call!
-Original Message- From: david smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:53 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Out-of-towner festival attendee roll call! > 1. Greg Earle > 2. Diana Potts > 3. Phred Huette > 4. Garrett McGrath > 5. Derek Plaslaiko > 6. Atomly > 7. Kate Simko > 8. DelCimmuto > 9. Luis-Manuel Garcia > 10. David Powers > 11. Chana Goodman > 12. Anton Banks > 13. Dan Bean > 14. Mark Butler > 15. J.Tronic > 16. Dennis Donohue +1 (lol) > 17. David Smith and the 616 allstars > 18. Lisa Uber +1 > 19. Nick Parish > 20. Ja'Maul Redmond
RE: (313) Cybotron - Clear
Thanks for the info. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: > > "except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it." > > Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in > the day? No. It was released on Fantasy Records. Quite big label on rock/jazz.. I have no idea how the rights are split between Atkins, Davies and Fantasy. sakke
RE: (313) Cybotron - Clear
"except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it." Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:11 PM To: George Jones IV - Logic7 Cc: Matt MacQueen; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. On May 11, 2005, at 11:21 AM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: > This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio > already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of > change for that sample. > > -Original Message- > From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM > To: 313 > Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear > > > sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my > attention > > http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album > out end of June > > once the page loads, "lose control" should start playing... juan > should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still > gives me chills... > > -- > MM > http://sonicsunset.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 > >
RE: (313) Cybotron - Clear
And Timberland has been quoted as saying that he doesn't listen to electronic dance music. Although "Clear" is as much apart of Hip-Hop history as Techno, I wonder if they even know that song is from a Techno Pioneer. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:08 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, "lose control" should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
(313) [ea] Afterparties performers and timeslots: (WAS: Rob Hood afterparty?)
Here is everything you need to know for those that have a phobia of following links,,:) See below for the Festival within The Festival!!! Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: John Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:59 PM To: Redmond, Ja'Maul Subject: Re: (313) Rob Hood afterparty? Ja'Maul go ahead and spread this out. Friday $15 Saturday $25 Sunday $25 Monday $20 Friday Night 5th Floor 06:00 till 07:00John Johr 07:00 till 08:00Popkan 08:00 till 09:00Kero 09:00 till 10:00Mitch Walcott 10:00 till 11:00Matt Clarke 11:00 till 12:00dennisj 12:00 till 01:00Dimitri Pike 01:00 till 03:00Terrence Parker 4th Floor 06:00 till 07:00Chris Santiago 07:00 till 08:00Tim Baker 08:00 till 09:00Lee Foss 09:00 till 10:00Chris from France 10:00 till 11:00Brown Brothers 11:00 till 12:00Sindrone 12:00 till 01:00Torque 01:00 till 03:00Sean Deason 3rd Floor 06:00 till 07:00Farzana 07:00 till 08:00Dale Carlson 08:00 till 09:00Carlos Lopez 09:00 till 10:00John Ender Rios 10:00 till 11:00DJ Mo Reese 11:00 till 12:00Lee Curtiss 12:00 till 01:00Ryan Brogan 01:00 till 02:00Jared Wilson 02:00 till 03:00Brian Kage Saturday night 5th Floor 10:00 till 12:00John Clees 12:00 till 01:00Infinite Grey 01:00 till 03:00John Tejada 03:00 till 04:00Fabrice Lig 04:00 till 06:00Claus Bachor 4th Floor 10:00 till 12:00Jason Patrick 12:00 till 01:00Josh Surma 01:00 till 02:00Trish Van Eynde 02:00 till 03:00Element8 03:00 till 04:00Derek Plaslaiko 04:00 till 05:00Ryan Brogan 05:00 till 06:00Dimitri Pike 3rd Floor 10:00 till 11:00Austin Speed 11:00 till 12:00Brian Kage/Geoff Stanley 12:00 till 01:00Greg Gow\Luke Hess 01:00 till 02:00Ryski 02:00 till 03:00Keith Kemp 03:00 till 04:00Andy James 04:00 till 05:00Seth Troxlor/Ryan Crosson 05:00 till 06:00DJ Shiva Sunday Night 5th Floor 10:00 till 12:00Plan A 12:00 till 01:00Ultradyne 01:00 till 03:00DJ T-1000 03:00 till 04:00Scan7 04:00 till 06:00Rob Hood 4th Floor 10:00 till 11:00Tres Luccitti 11:00 till 12:00Dan Lucas 12:00 til 01:00 Andy Hegler 01:00 till 02:00T. Linder 02:00 till 03:00Darkcube 03:00 till 04:00Annix 04:00 till 05:00Ja'Maul Redmond 05:00 till 06:00Niel V 3rd Floor 10:00 till 12:00DJ K-1 & DJ Dijital 12:00 till 01:00Positronix 01:00 till 02:00Deetron 02:00 till 03:00Manasyt 3:00 till 4:00 Blak Tony 04:00 till 06:00Der Mercanary Monday Night 5th Floor 10:00 till 11:00Ryan Brogan 11:00 till 12:00Twonz 12:00 till 01:00Punisher 01:00 till 03:00Oliver Ho 03:00 till 05:00Adam X 05:00 till 06:00Clandestine 4th Floor 10:00 till 11:00Funkshun 11:00 till 12:00Butcher 12:00 till 01:00Docile 01:00 till 02:00Auther Oskan 02:00 till 03:00Boondock Saints 03:00 till 04:00Tek Brothers 04:00 till 05:00Killbot 05:00 till 06:00B Calloway 3rd Floor 10:00 till 11:00Mike Kreger 11:00 till 12:00Big Joe Hicks 12:00 till 02:00Los Minstrels Del Diablo 02:00 till 03:00God and His Bitches 03:00 till 04:00Tom Mitchell 04:00 till 05:00Micheal Mitchell 05:00 till 06:00 Dave Bate On 5/9/05, Redmond, Ja'Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The EA parties are on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday and they are > being held @ the Masonic Temple. All four nights. > > Here's the website to get all of the information. > > www.electricavenue.org > > Rob hood is Playing on Sunday Night . > > Ja'Maul Redmond > 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 > t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com > > Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of > Perkins+society > > > -Original Message- > From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:12 PM > To: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) Rob Hood afterparty? > > Ok Im confused. Is rob hood playing two nights...Sat > at the EA party and Sunday at the Masonic Temple? I > dont see him listed at all on the techno tourist site and the EA > parties only seem to be on Fri and Sat. > > > --- [EMAIL P
RE: (313) Rob Hood afterparty?
The EA parties are on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday and they are being held @ the Masonic Temple. All four nights. Here's the website to get all of the information. www.electricavenue.org Rob hood is Playing on Sunday Night . Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:12 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Rob Hood afterparty? Ok Im confused. Is rob hood playing two nights...Sat at the EA party and Sunday at the Masonic Temple? I dont see him listed at all on the techno tourist site and the EA parties only seem to be on Fri and Sat. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > He's playing Sunday at Masonic Temple. He is indeed playing the EA > party. > He's playing later in the night according to the lineup info I have. > We > (Ultradyne) are playing earlier. > > www.electricavenue.org for more info.. > > Peace, > Alex > > > > James Hurlbut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 05/06/2005 09:46 PM > > To > 313@hyperreal.org > cc > > Subject > (313) Rob Hood afterparty? > > > > > > > Dear list, > > I can't stand it. Sleepless nights. Dreary days. > Only 22 moons until the > festival. But I don't know if Rob Hood is playing or not. he's not on > the technotourist list but I thought I saw his name on the lineup for > Sunday's > > electric avenue party. I'm confused. And a little scared. I got my > first taste of rob hood in the flesh last year but he was rudely > interrupted by the DPD. Now I need more. Please help, > > hopeless in san francisco > > > >
RE: (313) Fwd: KRAFTWERK ANNOUNCE SPRING 2005 TOUR AND FIRST-EVER LIVE RECORDING !
Why oh why Astralwerks Also I think James brown would argue about the most sampled band ever! Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:20 PM To: (313) Subject: (313) Fwd: KRAFTWERK ANNOUNCE SPRING 2005 TOUR AND FIRST-EVER LIVE RECORDING ! FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE APRIL 13, 2005 KRAFTWERK ANNOUNCE SPRING 2005 TOUR AND FIRST EVER-LIVE RECORDING! NEW YORK, NY -- Astralwerks is thrilled to announce the release of Kraftwerk's first-ever official live recording, entitled Minimum Maximum, on June 7th, as well as a series of live dates. Kraftwerk is considered one of the most influential bands in pop history. In a career spanning more than 35 years, the German electro pioneers have been endlessly saluted and mimicked by each new generation of innovators. In the 1970s, the post-punk futurists professed their devotion. In the 1980s & 90s, the leading lights of Chicago house along with Detroit and Euro-techno paid homage. Possibly the most sampled band on the planet, their music continues to inspire. Over the last decade, Ralf Hütter, Florian Schneider, Fritz Hilpert and Henning Schmitz have toured the world, and in 2003, as rare and splendid as a returning comet in the night sky, Kraftwerk released Tour De France Soundtracks. Now in 2005, having already electrified the band's global army of disciples and following an unforgettable appearance at Coachella 2004, Kraftwerk are returning to perform a short series of shows in DC, New York, Detroit, Chicago and LA, their first since 1998. Astralwerks will release a 2-CD live set entitled Minimum-Maximum on June 7th containing 22 tracks recorded throughout Europe, Japan and the US during the band's 2004 world tour. Recorded and mixed with Kraftwerk's legendary precision, Minimum-Maximum features all of the band's classic compositions alongside their most recent 2004 Billboard Club chart hit "Aerodynamik". Minimum-Maximum tour: 5/30Washington, DC 9.30 Club 5/31Washington, DC 9.30 Club 6/01New York, NYHammerstein Ballroom 6/03Detroit, MI State Theatre 6/04Chicago, IL Riviera Theatre 6/06Los Angeles, CA Greek Theatre For more information please contact Alison Tarnofsky: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alison Tarnofsky Publicity Director Astralwerks 104 West 29th St, 4th FL New York, NY 10001 www.astralwerks.com
RE: (313) planet delsin 4 313 ears only
PLEASE PLEASE tell me this will be available before the festival (detroit). I would love to have this blasting in the car during my 10 hr. road trip to detroit. I definitely want a cd. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) planet delsin 4 313 ears only excellent Fabrice Lig >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: (313) planet delsin 4 313 ears only >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:05:45 +0200 > > >http://www.delsin.org/planetdelsin/ _
RE: (313) Scan 7's first North Carolina appearance
For any Migrated D-towners. Scan 7 ( Live) T.Linder Ja'Maul Redmond (Live) Daniel Jordon Oliver Long Location: Jeff's Bucket Shop, 1601 Montford Drive, Charlotte, N.C. Timeline: April 9th, 2005. Doors open at 21:00 Hrs. Age: 21+ Admission: USD 5.00 www.detroittechnomilitia.com /http://www.activ-analog.com Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society
RE: (313) podcasting
Quote "So if you have payed your licenses," End Quote What does this mean? If you payed for your podcast license ( if there is one) or your licenses to obtain each track you mix? If it's the ladder once again, the RIAA has found another way to piss me off. If I'm understanding this correctly, If you do a podcast or Simulcast or any kind of live feed of your MIX, then that's illegal even if you're doing it for free. If that's the case then posting a mix online is illegal, shot djing period is illegal unless your work for a radio station that has bought all the licenses to play the songs you play. I always thought you only need to follow the copyright/publishing laws if you plan on SELLING a mix. I maybe misunderstanding all of this, if so please explain further. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: David Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:13 PM To: robin Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) podcasting > what i don't understand is, doesn't this mean that if you do a podcast > you're wide open for the RIAA/BPI to come in a take you to the cleaners? Podcasting is covered by the same copyright/publishing laws that are any other medium is covered. So if you have payed your licenses, you have nothing to worry about. If you're a live musician and this is YOUR work, you have nothing to worry about. If giving away other peoples music for free (which is what podcasting does) and have NOT payed the correct licenses if the music isn't your own work, then yes they can take you to cleaners. And the law doesn't care if you are making money or not. It's the actual giving away the music that is what breaks the law. But there are other "copyrights" out there: http://creativecommons.org/ That allow other options. Dave
RE: (313) Italian dj fined over one million
I know this isn't the full story but I wonder how in the world do they know that they are "illegal" downloads? They could be rips from his own vinyl catalog. It said they found his laptop @ the club.I thougth the only way they can prosecute is if first there's proof of actually downloading or file sharing which usually means acquiring an IP address from the site you're stealing from. It sounds like they've either been watching this guy for a long time and have proof of him downloading or they just stumbled across a laptop with files on them. If it's the ladder they can't do jack. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:20 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Italian dj fined over one million >ouch! he must have been making a lot of money for them to think he can >pay this off tho surely. all the same this seems a little harsh. >any idea who it is? will i have heard of him? I say GOOD. The thieving, mp3-using, fly-by-night of a dj. Should be paying for his shizzle if he's not getting it on promo. jeez, if he's a 'big' dj too, he's even getting paid. think of all the people out there who dont get paid and still put all their money into buying music. Unless of course the dj in question is Danielle Baldelli, or our very own Fab from Italy. Then, we'll have to start a campaign to free them. Best Regards, Fickle Fickleberry, of Fickleshire. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) detroity DnB
it's literally been about 9 years since I heard a 4-hero record being played by a dnb dj. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:39 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) detroity DnB a lot of great dnb i just slept on, thinking it would last forever and i'd catch up. how little i knew of UK music trends ;) now there are so many cuts i wish i'd have picked up. Charles Noel, Titonton from Ohio, and others in detroit like Paris and DJ Rotator (even DJ Assault's early mixes to some degree!) were rocking this stuff at parties and much of it great. I had a copy of a Paris mixtape (cassette) that he reportedly created in order to hand to to Mills when he was in the D for one weekend... one side was super dope minimal detroit techno all cut-n-paste mixed Claude style.. the flip side was all very detroity feeling DnB. No idea where it is now... sigh.. but brilliant from front to back. Anyway, DnB to me, coming from a learning to Dj in a techno background, it was hard to keep up with and -- like any great imports -- a finite amount of it came to Record Time and the best of the best stuff disappeared quickly. I'd love to hear anyone/everyone take a crack at the best jungle/DnB mixes that employ that whole 'detroity feeling'... from Jacob's Optical Stairway to Lemon D to 4 Hero to LTJ to the better Photek to whoever else you feel represents the best of the (this is sad to say) 'golden era' of dnb, before it mutated into something unreconizable, something that felt like you never really knew it to begin with. I know this thread comes up once a year but i need some mixes to go with it... School me. My iPod is a yearnin' Someone in detroit get Brian Gillespie to rock a mix from this era, he had *everything*... first time i ever saw someone in the US sporting a Metalheads t-shirt to a Family Funktion party... he was all over it. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
RE: (313) No Movement 2005?
I really wouldn't mind if they skip a year and take an WHOLE year to develop a really special event. Four months is barely enough time to organize a party much less an festival. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:03 PM To: Chana Goodman; 313 Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? i agree. you can't move the festival, it's part of detroit. it's just another festival anywhere else. galivant! -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jan 27, 2005 7:56 PM To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: (313) No Movement 2005? Wow! David arent you happy enough to have Mills, Mike Banks living on your continent. Not to mention all the shows headlining detroit/american artists that are constantly rotating through Europe. Mn, do we really have to take one of the last formidable, and sizable electronic detroit/american events left here and move it too. I personally dont have the money to be galivanting to Europe and back. This is one thing among few others I have to look forward to. I cant believe people would even consider moving the festival as a viable option. Remember it started as DEMF for a reason, and will always be that as far as Im concerned. Move the festival, and it might as well be any other festival. sorry struck a chord. I'll certainly make a donation if thats what it takes. chana
RE: (313) Twonz playing with Rob Hood and Alan Oldham come Friday Dec 17th
This was an absolutely amazing night and morning. I really don't have words to describe it. To me Both Oldham And Hood Were in TOP form that night. And the crowd was amazing. Twonz set was cut short due to something closing the bar down, I'm not sure what, But from what I heard it was also great. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:34 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Twonz playing with Rob Hood and Alan Oldham come Friday Dec 17th At long last, I saw Twonz play during the festival in the big back room at The Works. I'd heard about him for years, of course, I'm sure Fixer told me about him in 1994 or thereabouts. He was the skinny guy playing really, really fast. Afterward, my head felt like I had been inside a lightning bolt, and I'm going, "yes yes yes! more of *that*!!" -- fred
RE: (313) Twonz playing with Rob Hood and Alan Oldham come Friday Dec 17th
Just a reminder: Twonz playing with Rob Hood and Alan Oldham Friday Dec 17th http://www.detroitmovementguide.com/ElectricAvenue/dec.jpg Plus for those of you that will be wandering around Detroit @5:00 am I will be playing ( Live PA) @ the afterparty 5:00 to 6:00 or 6:30 ish. @ McCarthy's Pub. Hope to meet some of you guys. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Aphex Twin Surfing On Sine Waves and Caustic Window. The is the first time in a while I've been excited about an Aphex release -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Aphex Twin Maybe I'm IDM illiterate but what is SOSW & CW? MEK Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] DNS.ORG> To 313@hyperreal.org 12/16/2004 11:25 cc AM Subject Re: (313) Aphex Twin Please respond to 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 16, 2004, at 8:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Check this out: > http://www.rephlex.com/2001releases/analord10/analord10.html Mike Paradinas gives some input: http://www.tfunkshun.com/forum/viewtopic.php? t=66&sid=b487d30b778c919b1718151e6cf41248 Ob313: Osunlade tomorrow night, Kenny Larkin Saturday night in the (323) - Greg # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Fix004
I am majorly confused. How can you re-edit a song without permission. I had a friend who used to do those old "ulti-mixes" things and from about 85' on they were legally forced to license everything. It's strange that they can do anything to a "Rick James" for example and then sale it, even if it's just hard quantizing. Which leads me to my next question. What do you serious minded d.j.s think of these "fixed tempo" or quanitizing of live percussion music. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:46 AM To: M : A : T : R : I : X Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) Fix004 > just gave a listen to the clips. the rick james ones: "cold blooded" > and > "ghetto life" sound exactly like the originals with nothing added to > them. > the prince track I recognized "controversy" was a pretty poor choppy > editing thing. I dont know what the second prince track was, but it > didnt seem to be remixed or edited at all either. so what is the "fix" > label all about? my guess is that these tracks are 'temponized' (fixed tempo to allow steadier mixing) and re-edited so that the structure is more suitable for mixing (and work better for some djs). there's quite a lot of this going on at the moment. re-edits are still quite a big thing as far as i can see. > merely bootlegging 80's tracks to vinyl? is this what people are > spending their money on now-a-days? i think i may have asked a similar question about the difference between an edit and a bootleg. i don't think the answer is that straightforward tho. i can see both sides (ie. 'yeah it's no different to bootlegging' and 'nah there's some creative input involved so it ain't a bootleg'). i think most re-edits though are done without permission. so make of that what you will. robin...
(313) O.T. Non music related. (Weather in Detroit)
What is the weather like up there this week. I will hopefully be driving up there this Friday if the weather permits. I believe it's snowing now? But will it get worse towards the end of the week. ? Thanks. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society
RE: (313) top ten
Can someone do a mix of there top ten? I would love to hear some of these or at least put a name to some tracks that I may already know. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:27 AM To: DJ Ken Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) top ten ahh I can't believe I missed this one...sorry Matt "blush" Matt Chester - Into the Fall - 11th Hour > Mine would look like this... > > The Monolith - The music in my mind - Digital Soul - DS 03 Juan Atkins > - Back To Basics Pt 1 - New Religion Juan Atkins - Back To Basics Pt 2 > - New Religion Miko Marks - Carnal - New Religion Arne Weinberg - > Spectral Disease - AW001 Melchior Productions - The Meaning Matt > Chester - Into the Fall - 11th Hour Hexagon Trax Vol.1 - Accelerator > Records Iken - Images of a drawn sword - RealSoon Mathew Johnson - > Decompression - Minus > > Ken > > http://www.djken.nl > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: (313) top ten > > >> just a few I really liked this year and probably more but these ones >> spring to mind... >> >> Jeff Mills - "Mosaigna" (re-edit) - Psycho Thrill Gary Martin - >> Samedi (DJ 3000 mix) - Teknotika US Trolley Route - The Sleeper - >> (Robert Hood mix) - Pure Plastic Joey Beltram - Rising Sun LP - >> Tresor Joris Voorn - Future History LP - Sino Cult Copy - (Part 2 - >> Carl Craig edit) - Rushour Juan Atkins - Back to Basics Pt 1 & 2 - >> New Religion Pacou & Angela Flame - Autofokus Theme - Autofocus Dave >> Clarke - Just Ride (Jame Ruskin Remix) - Skint Trolley Route - >> Terminal 2 (Ben Sims remix) - Pure Plastic >> > >
RE: (313) detroit, fri dec 17 rob hood, t-1000, twonz
I'm trying to make it up there for this one. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 12:45 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) detroit, fri dec 17 rob hood, t-1000, twonz .. .was asked to pass this onto the list Twonz playing with Rob Hood and Alan Oldham come Friday Dec 17th http://www.detroitmovementguide.com/ElectricAvenue/dec.jpg sounds like fun! -Joe
RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I missed something also,:) where was I called a troll. And what kind of troll. The small kind that dwell in caves or the kind that lures bate? What was that in reference to? Also here's my comment. I sent it privately I guess but not to the list. If it double post,then sorry. Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: > I don't have an argument about the gear. I can care less. They can use whatever. I guess my statement was off topic since it was more about whether the teqnique is acceptable. People can use whatever they want to perform, in my book. I was making a comment on the content of the music, which has nothing to do with "Hawtin live or Hawtin the d.j.". I saw one of my favorites ,Kit Clayton do the same thing but worse. Ambient music that trailed off to one singular distored sine wave. The wave carried on for 8 minutes. 8 straight f*ckin minutes of a sine wave. There comes a time when self expression become self absorbtion. We are performing to an audience are we not? I love minimal techno but I just can't listen to the same sample loop for 15 minutes with some fxs or vocals behind it regardless of the gear or the performer. > Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:52 AM To: 'Martin Dust'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Too many chin-scratchers makes for dull vibe. Not enough leaves no quality control. This is waay too much chin scratching. Deciding on whether to see an artist based on his kit? Come on. Your going to see the artist not his tools. Part of that experience is the chance that he might do something unexpected, whether it works or not is up to the connection between the artist, the audience and the artistic execution. Personally I'm a big fan of the "take-a-chance-if-it-don't-pan-out-then-walk" method. Been working great for me for years. Anything else would be uncivilized. And why's jamaul a troll. Did I miss something? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems "Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change." > -Original Message- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:44 AM > To: Tosh Cooey > Cc: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... > > > > > Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at > Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's > just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect > minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under. > > Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy? > > It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to > have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to > define and all the "techno bores" just love to jump down the promoters > throat. > Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or > Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all > the kit they play on...why should we be any different? > > It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to > enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants > where used. > > Martin > > > > > > > Martin Dust wrote: > > > > > > Who cares Tosh to be honest... > > > > > > Martin > > > > How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a > performer > > on a flyer? > > > > For example if you see "Richie Hawtin" maybe you will expect what > > Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see "Richie Hawtin > LIVE" then > > what can you expect? > > > > Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be > performing > > with? > > > > Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. > > > > I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the > > same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if > it was the > > Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... > > > > I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is "right" > or "wrong" > > should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and > > develop an understanding of what's happening. > > > > Tosh > > >
RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
I can't say if it's live or not. I also can't say much about the performance there. But if it was anything like the performance here in america, I call it boring. He would literally play that same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minute. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:43 AM To: Martin Dust Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Martin Dust wrote: > It's not a matter of live with Ableton. It's more DJ set or > Performers own material, they could have two spoons for me... --> Sorry, never meant it was a matter of Abelton, just abused them as an example. As for: "It's more DJ set or Performers own material" well Ricardo was creating drums and just strange noises and triggering them by hand, and Richie was sampling records and playing with those, much like most musicians do these days with samples. So were they live or DJ'ing? Tosh > On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wrote: > >> After the weekend in London for the Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a >> question: >> >> What exactly does "live" mean? >> >> Can the word "live" be replaced by "Playing their own music"? >> >> I ask because during the course of the show there were moments when >> Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from the record and let >> that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or just plain strange >> bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work doing things with >> effects and the foot controller or even just noodling about with Abelton LIVE... >> >> For large stretches of time not a record was playing. Is that any >> more or less live than somebody playing a "live" set from Abelton? >> >> It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters the DJs because to >> watch them performing would be a lot of fun for the crowd I think. >> >> Tosh >> -- >> McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/ >> >> > > >
313@hyperreal.org
I agree 99% with everything you said,,:) The only thing that I beg to differ with is that there's no one to blame. I believe the gluten of those easily produced copy-cat records were the cause. I too enjoyed techstep when it first came out, But I also remember that, once upon a time, it used to be the smallest selection in the records stores. The sub-genre used to only included the top notch producers in d-n-b. With the ease of sample based sequencer software and hordes of "TECHSTEP" samples being available, every below average djing crew in America started releasing records. Then the upper-class but angry youth of EDM finally had a music they can relate to, something they can be aggressive to, something they can bob their head and flaunt their masculinity to, Something they can finally flaunt there hip-hop posing to. And most importantly something they themselves can go home and produce without having to think too much. With all of that, we get the epidemic of the all night long tech-step parties. I stopped listening to dnb and thought artist like 4 hero and Photek with their more minimal style of production were a closer tie to Detroit techno. Besides both of those artist state D-town as an influence. But Then 4 hero evolved and started doing more abstract jazz and R&B and Photek, for whatever reason, gave up the fight and started producing the very same tech-step that he spoke out against in the late 90's. Go figure. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:41 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Techno influence on d&b One of the strange miracles of dance music is how "Just Want Another Chance" spawned an entire dead-end genre, techstep. Don't mean to ignite any flamewars with techstep fans here, but as brilliant and prefigurative as those early Reese records are, one bassline snippet only goes so far. I really enjoyed techstep when it got started, it added nice flavor to a set, but when you started hearing hour after hour of nothing- but from the crew-of-the-moment DJs, it wore out quickly. I feel kind of bad about saying that because the "Another Chance" bassline really is cool, but the dominance of techstep in 1998-99 cut off the air supply of a lot of other related genres, and I pretty much stopped playing any of it despite DJing jungle/d&b since early 1994 when "Original Nuttah" and Omni Trio finally hit the west coast. There's noone to blame for it, really, certainly not Ed Rush, Optical, Nico and the other originators of this, who had a lot of really creative stuff at the beginning and not surprisingly mined the sound for all it was worth. But then there were a thousand imitators It's just one of those trends that smothered itself. -- fh
RE: (313) crazy african electronic shizz
That Demo is the best release I've heard in 2 years. Does anyone have the first disc. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) crazy african electronic shizz Yeah, I've seen it - utter madness! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) crazy african electronic shizz Have you seen/heard this? http://www.crammed.be/konono/index.htm I want one of them speakers on a pole. that looks dope. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) jeff samuals review/gear question
He's played in Charlotte twice and it was EXTREMELY boring. He didn't even play the extreme minimal stuff here. He played a bunch of Overly-produced stuff similar to his productions at that time. But like the first guy said the girls were loving it. I left after about 45 min. both times. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) jeff samuals review/gear question >a little boring to me. He was a lazy dj though, letting tracks run out and then quick mixes out. I was kinda shocked, he tours europe and plays like this? Maybe his live sets are where he makes his name? On the plus side, no, jeff is an awesome dj, he must not have been trying hard that night. i remember stories of a party in ohio (where he's originally from) years ago, where he was impressing even titonton -- he can mix pretty quick and has a real good sense of what fits together (or at least he used to). i still have an old tape of his from 96 or 97, great stuff, chancellor, rob hood, convextion, cristian vogel before he went noise, old morgan geist stuff...it's a fantastic mix, tho he was hating on it after not too long... unofrtunately, i think his taste has devolved some, but maybe thats because i agree that that kompakt/traum/etc minimal stuff gets real boring...he used to play more melodic and funky stuff... blah blah ps where's alex?
RE: (313) dj mag/richie hawtin
Is there anywhere I can hear this track on-line? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Simon Hindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) dj mag/richie hawtin Richie has good taste! This is an absolutely mind-blowing track, released on a Swiss label called Bruchstuecke which is distributed by Kompakt. It's got a real subtle growling buildup reminiscent of Random XS or something like that but without straying into full-on minimal acid rave territory, topped off with some wonderfully understated clicky goodness over the mayhem. The two cuts on the flip are solid as well. Bruchstuecke the label is definitely worth checking out also - Luciano has had a few releases on there that are really good, and quite diverse (a few pop songs from him as well!) and their recent long-player, 'Music for Children' is worth at least two listens. Good stuff. >>> Ales Hieng - Zergon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/11/2004 2:38:10 am >>> >hi there >would someone be willing to look up and cite the record that richie >hawtin selected as this year's best track in the dj mag top 100 >longlist? >the only thing i remember is that it was from an artist with a name >impossible to remember;) thanks Mario Galoppierende Zuversicht - 'Linguini Al Denta'
(313) Re: Post Election Soundtrack.
Surprisingly includes no Detroit Techno , But has all artist that either influenced Detroit Techno peeps or have been influenced by them. Prince/ Musicology Marvin Gaye/ What's Going On Photek/ Form and Function Portishead/Portishead Monolake/Interstate Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Matt Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) I am feeling better post election/ other reviews At 03:43 PM 11/4/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Jeff Samuals is playing in SF this weekend, any thoughts on what he >plays out? Someone discribed it as not being dancefloor friendly, can >anyone that has seen him lately confirm or deny this information. I saw him during a Movement afterparty and he had a huge pile of hot girls going nuts. Take that for what you will. >ken Ishi Garden on the Palm Finally, someone who understands! :) -- Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
With all the political passions being released on the list today I would like to say that Stephen Burd actually called me to discuss the issues, talk about Detroit a little and to say that like my beginning statements, his statement was partially a joke as well. We all have our own personal and political beliefs and a discussion board is exactly a place to post them. But what I often find is that some people say or do things that they wouldn't necessarily say in person. I've had many debates,,(never political,,lol, mostly musical) on other message boards but I've never had anyone to actually take the time to contact me personally to clarify anything that may have been said on the message board. Stephen did just that. And to me that is admirable. With that said, I'm still interested in Canada,,,:) mainly because I was interested before the election and even more so now. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
We'vew Gotten WAY off topic. But oh well. Someone will have some music news soon. :) But I've often wondered, why people get "personally" upset When another speaks negatively against America. Regardless of Political Party. I mean seriously. I love America, But there are things wrong with this country. Just like all other countries there's good and bad. Are we not to ever discuss the bad???Are we suppose to Just ignore, the over-consumption, complete disregard of natural resources, poor schools, Outrages healthcare system, etc. etc. It's not like we're making up things , we're just stating the facts in hopes of discussing a solution. But often times I find people here, both repulican and democratics that say,, "oh if you hate it, then leave." ?? I'm an architect and the firm I'm working with is getting blasted for trying to push Green Buildings. My managers here in Charlotte try to justify our agenda by stating the fact that in general America is Building WAY TOO many Building and We need to correct the situation somehow as designers. You know what we hear? "GO DESIGN Somewhere else"!!! This is from well educated officials and CEO's of many healthcare facilities and Banks. Meanwhile Our Vancouver office ( where they don't even have a glutten of usless contruction has already completed 4 "Green" Builings.) I say the problem isn't the problem. Th problem is Denying the problem. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 1:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Gianelli, Thank you for the offer, but I think I'll stay. It appears that you aren't accepting of "my type". Can I not share a liking of electronic music with you while being a conservative Republican and speak up against those who criticize this country? I believe our friend Chris voted for Mr. Bush as well, do you plan to boycott FSC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Mr. Burd, You can leave this list and go listen to born again C&W music while waving your flag. Your type isn't needed around here. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist > please take him. > > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, > > I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly > showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask > you canadian 313er's. > > How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, > my girlfriend loves vancouver. > > Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) > > > Ja'Maul Redmond > 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 > t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com > > Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of > Perkins+society > > > > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ > > De Block, Mario Quote > "A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 > % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario" > > But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here > in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. > That's just reality. > > As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' > even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He > then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's > Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you > find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. > > None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social > economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in > Art. > > > >
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
I've received e-mails like that before, but no adds. They came from travel agents mostly. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 12:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal > -Message d'origine- > De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT > :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, > > I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP > control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the > definitions of marriage. > I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. > Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move > there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. > > >From: "Redmond, Ja'Maul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, > >Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 > > > >I never thought I would be the political type, but with > America truly > >showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, > I know ask > >you canadian 313er's. > > > >How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad > for techno, > >my girlfriend loves vancouver. > > > >Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) > > > > > >Ja'Maul Redmond > >1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 > >t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com > > > >Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals > of society > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Redmond, Ja'Maul > >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ > > > >De Block, Mario Quote > >"A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one > day 50.5 % > >of America would decide we're better off that way Mario" > > > >But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at > least here > >in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. > >That's just reality. > > > >As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was > back in 95' > >even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He > >then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first > Generation's > >Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated > man you find > >that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. > > > >None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social > >economic division. Detest it or not it will always be > present even in > >Art. > > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
HAHAHA,,I'm practically married so your women are safe. I've stopped buying records and I hate gum,,, but I would have to steal at least one job or maybe even two. You know how we american like to consume. I would have to pay for all the crap I have. Um,, all of this is 50% joking and um 50% serious. My firm does have an office in Vancouver, but it's the most desirable office right behind Seattle for all of our current employees, so there's a wait list as big as Canada,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) > -Original Message- > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, > > > You should all come over here. > You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts > > ;) > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM > To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, > > > please take him. > > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, > > I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly > showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask > you canadian 313er's. > > How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, > my girlfriend loves vancouver. > > Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
(313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote "A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario" But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) stinson interview/
De Block, Mario Quote "A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario" But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
RE: (313) are they serious?
" proof that filesharing of MP3's hasn't hurt the majors at all. apparently they *still* have way too much money." I hear you,, The Riaa Can Kiss my arse. As long as the majors have money to burn to sign crap like this I don't want to hear a thing about losing money on mp3 sharing. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: lee herrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:42 PM To: 'SeanDeason C' Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) are they serious? well clearly this signifies the beginning of the "end times". -Original Message- From: SeanDeason C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:02 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) are they serious? sadly funny: check the video and bio. yeah! Dix Hills in the hizzouse!! http://www.northernstate.net/ proof that filesharing of MP3's hasn't hurt the majors at all. apparently they *still* have way too much money.
RE: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup
Was I the only one not feeling this set. I had listened to it before I knew who the "Supergroup" were and couldn't finish listening to it. Then after I learned it was comprised of some true superstars I listened to it all the way through and Just couldn't get into it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:28 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Tosh Cooey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Narodniki - The laptop supergroup it's been encoded onto mp3 and floating on soulseek as well for those who hate streaming On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: > If you bounce around www.mutek.ca (i think if you hit the complete > archives link, then browse to narod niki) you can find a couple links > to audio streams. here is a direct link to the realaudio version. > there are two quicktime versions as well, which may or may not have > been fixed yet. > > http://www.mutek.ca/ref/2003/NAROD.ram > > http://www.mutek.ca/ref/2003/NAROD_192k_ref.mov > > On Oct 4, 2004, at 21:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > where's the recording jack? > -- > matt kane's brain > http://hydrogenproject.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
FW: (313) FW: Market elec music vs educate (Was: Electronic music culture in America)
-Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:37 AM To: 'Lester Kenyatta Spence' Subject: RE: (313) FW: Market elec music vs educate (Was: Electronic music culture in America) Awesome idea Maybe everyone in 313 could try it at there local high schools. -Original Message- From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 5:02 PM To: Redmond, Ja'Maul Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) FW: Market elec music vs educate (Was: Electronic music culture in America) On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: > If you wanted to reach a younger, less-educated crowd with the > intention of giving them some insight in the history of the music, how > would you go about? > > > John I would establish ties with the local high school, and convince them to set up a shop elective in electronic music. peace lks
(313) FW: Market elec music vs educate (Was: Electronic music culture in America)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:12 AM To: Redmond, Ja'Maul; robin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Market elec music vs educate (Was: Electronic music culture in America) I also believe the 'age question' and the marketing of electronic music is an important factor in the success and distribution of the music. I also get the feeling most events/clubs/artists/hypes are marketed towards an audience that is generally a lot younger than most people on the list/most people who have been into techno since the beginning. Ask the average sixteen-year old visitor of a big techno event who invented techno and I wouldn't be surprised if some say Adam Beyer or Sven Väth. I've been thinking a lot about the question whether it's worth the trouble of trying to (re)educate them kids, but I'm afraid it's a collossal task that's not realistic. So let me throw this question into the group then: If you wanted to reach a younger, less-educated crowd with the intention of giving them some insight in the history of the music, how would you go about? John > >I believe the age thing is a big factor. Which is why I was so focused on the >misguided marketing or promoting of techno. I think I would be safe to say >that most electronic music is marketed towards a 25 and under crowdi.e. >dance night clubs, raves, bars, small records stores, cliché' magazines,,etc. >But for most larger cities and small cities the 25 to 40 crowd is the largest >in population demographic. > >Come on we have to be honest, once we hit 30 it's hard to make it to these >late night events with all of our other responsibilites. I'm starting to >promote my live P.a.'s to Daytime,weekend festivals, Gallery Crawls,Park >festivals, Car shows, Electronics or computer events, etc. and I'm getting >way better response not to mention better pay. WAY more people actually buy >c.d's and ask for contact information. The music at these events are usually >reserved for Rock/top 40 or even some hip-hop. After getting booked I asked >why aren't more electronic music being showcased and the event coordinator >would state simply,,, "No one from that music approaches me". > >For 25 years techno in america has been marketed to a demographic that's >getting smaller and smaller and more divided. Of the number of 25 and under >group, most are into hip-hop and top 40 and the rest are even more divided now >days between the plethora of sub-genres within electronic music. Our techno >shows very rarely pull progressive house heads or d-n-b crowds and vice-versa. >An come to think of it, Even within 25 and under crowds we're poorly >marketed. How many 18 year old non d.j.'s actually buy vinyl? Why is it that >in almost every University sponsered event electronic music is missing in >action with the exception of the occasional big name trance d.j. hear and >there.? How do we expect for american, electronic music culture to grow, when >our music is only expose to such a small portion of the population. >I guess I'm ranting now, but a bunch of us down here in the south have been >discussing this very thing. > > > > > >-Original Message- >From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:54 AM >To: 313 Org >Subject: Re: (313) Electronic music culture in America > >> >>> when i first got on this list i was in my mid twenties with the >>> world in front of me. >>> now i'm in my mid thirties with a growing family that keeps on >>> growing. >>> much harder to go clubbing. >> >> >> Good point, how much of it is due to age? > >we had a discussion with a slightly different focus last year about this. >there was a thread that asked for anyone under the age of 25 on this list to >pipe up. i think there was one person. > >i think the rubbishing of things like electroclash on here might be an age >thing, for example. > >robin... > > > > >
RE: (313) Electronic music culture in America
I believe the age thing is a big factor. Which is why I was so focused on the misguided marketing or promoting of techno. I think I would be safe to say that most electronic music is marketed towards a 25 and under crowdi.e. dance night clubs, raves, bars, small records stores, cliché' magazines,,etc. But for most larger cities and small cities the 25 to 40 crowd is the largest in population demographic. Come on we have to be honest, once we hit 30 it's hard to make it to these late night events with all of our other responsibilites. I'm starting to promote my live P.a.'s to Daytime,weekend festivals, Gallery Crawls,Park festivals, Car shows, Electronics or computer events, etc. and I'm getting way better response not to mention better pay. WAY more people actually buy c.d's and ask for contact information. The music at these events are usually reserved for Rock/top 40 or even some hip-hop. After getting booked I asked why aren't more electronic music being showcased and the event coordinator would state simply,,, "No one from that music approaches me". For 25 years techno in america has been marketed to a demographic that's getting smaller and smaller and more divided. Of the number of 25 and under group, most are into hip-hop and top 40 and the rest are even more divided now days between the plethora of sub-genres within electronic music. Our techno shows very rarely pull progressive house heads or d-n-b crowds and vice-versa. An come to think of it, Even within 25 and under crowds we're poorly marketed. How many 18 year old non d.j.'s actually buy vinyl? Why is it that in almost every University sponsered event electronic music is missing in action with the exception of the occasional big name trance d.j. hear and there.? How do we expect for american, electronic music culture to grow, when our music is only expose to such a small portion of the population. I guess I'm ranting now, but a bunch of us down here in the south have been discussing this very thing. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:54 AM To: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) Electronic music culture in America > >> when i first got on this list i was in my mid twenties with the world >> in front of me. >> now i'm in my mid thirties with a growing family that keeps on >> growing. >> much harder to go clubbing. > > > Good point, how much of it is due to age? we had a discussion with a slightly different focus last year about this. there was a thread that asked for anyone under the age of 25 on this list to pipe up. i think there was one person. i think the rubbishing of things like electroclash on here might be an age thing, for example. robin...
RE: (313) techno isn't selling
To me, this underscores the notion that non-traditional forms of expression in general, seem able to make marked progress everywhere but in early 21st century America. Am I wrong about this? Seriously, it's not a rhetorical question. I'd like to know what people think. K A-side I think the music industry in general is hurting in america. And to me it deserves it. Not the Artist, but those that really control the business aspect of it. Although Electronic music in general is everywhere; advertising adds, movies, games, etc, there is noone brave enough to market it. The reason it shows up in these other forms of art is because the people that are in control of the creative aspects of these markets are a part of a very creative generation. The selling, releasing, and marketing of music is still controlled by non creative "bandwagon jumping" business men. Marketing and promoting is everything and the powers that be, could care less to market non-traditional forms of art, unless of course it somehow makes it's way into america's vernacular on it's own. Which is what I think happened in Europe. B-side What kind of marketing or promotion does True techno music have here in america??? The answer is ,,,CLUBS , small indiscreet record stores and guess what more clubs. How can a record or a c.d. from a "techno d.j." get sold if NO ONE knows about them. I'm in an office of about 40 people, 30 of them are 35 and under. Of those 30 I would say only 5 knows any electronic artist and only one (ME) knows about true techno artist.What's wrong with this picture. I know a lot of people who enjoy this music when they hear it, but the only place they can hear it, is in a smokey nightclub that's open between 10:00 and 4:00 a.m. O.k I'm generalizing here but I think most of you get my point. This has been techno music's major problem, especially hear in america. It's so tied to the dance club industry that it's alienated itself from a large buying market. And we are definitely NOT going to get any help from a MAJOR. -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: re: (313) techno isn't selling [EMAIL PROTECTED] said in response to Matthew Mangold: yes, as I said, it's not that I don't believe it - I'm just curious to see if there are stats/charts/bar graphs/whatever in any trade magazines. from what I read recently - vinyl is actually becoming popular again, very very slowly, but still... by the way, there's many reasons distribution companies go out of business besides direct result of drop in sales at the retailers. Nemesis could have been managed poorly from within on all sorts of levels. They might have grown out of touch with the changes in the US dance music market. Not saying that's the reason they've closed but it's just an example of things that happen. It's not always 1+1=2. Same goes for record retailers. They open and close more often than distributors I would guess. MEK * Michael, I sense that your difficulty in accepting easily that what Matthew Mangold and others are reporting is a widespread thing, might have something to do with the fact that you've recently returned from travelling to Europe (and other regions) where 'techno' and all related styles of music (and 'dance music in general) is stubbornly selling quite well, if not exactly having a renaissance. To me, this underscores the notion that non-traditional forms of expression in general, seem able to make marked progress everywhere but in early 21st century America. Am I wrong about this? Seriously, it's not a rhetorical question. I'd like to know what people think. k
RE: (313) Underated Producers
JT ($tinkworks) -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:39 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Underated Producers Derek Carr Dimension 5 (Keith Tucker) DJ Shufflemaster
RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music
Oh btw, I'm in america,, The South East of all places. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music Is all of this political/geographical stuff a response to the downfall of Techno in america? Because if it is, it's pointed at the wrong region. The problems we're having here have been caused by americans, not europeans. I'm a producer and not d.j. so I'm not talking in those terms. Don't get me wrong,, I also get upset when I see an american name on a european/german label for export prices. But is that Europe's or germany's fault. Hell No. It's our fault. It's too late to go inward,,actually I'm not even sure what that means? Are these artist only going to release on american labels? Are these artist only going to tour america only,,at reduced cost in some instances. I'm a little confused by it all. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:34 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music > Lastly, I depart with this. Why is that the USA is up in arms when > technology jobs are outsourced to India and China, yet not at all > DISGUSTED when the European magazines and scene come into our scenes > demanding huge fees and arriving with difficult attitudes, resulting > to a trend of the US getting InSourced...? No offence meant to anyone, but this is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in the last few months (at least). Is this a prank? What does an "EU boycott" achieve other than a totally needless attack on the global nature of the techno scene? I'm surprised to see this sort of aggressively isolationist mentality creeping into this field of electronic music. Besides, it's not even a consistent decision: "this collective of artists will remain tied to the American scene and American DJs", it says, but when you look at the E.A.R. roster, it's not exactly composed of rootin' tootin' pure-as-apple-pie Americans by any means. Anyway, maybe I'm over-reacting a bit. Are we going to see a "patriotic techno tour" of the Bible Belt states in the near future? Bootlegs of "French Kiss" coming out, renamed "Freedom Kiss"? It's all a bit strange, and depressing in a way. Brendan
RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music
Is all of this political/geographical stuff a response to the downfall of Techno in america? Because if it is, it's pointed at the wrong region. The problems we're having here have been caused by americans, not europeans. I'm a producer and not d.j. so I'm not talking in those terms. Don't get me wrong,, I also get upset when I see an american name on a european/german label for export prices. But is that Europe's or germany's fault. Hell No. It's our fault. It's too late to go inward,,actually I'm not even sure what that means? Are these artist only going to release on american labels? Are these artist only going to tour america only,,at reduced cost in some instances. I'm a little confused by it all. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:34 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) EU Boycott and an End To European Insourcing Of Techno Music > Lastly, I depart with this. Why is that the USA is up in arms when > technology jobs are outsourced to India and China, yet not at all > DISGUSTED when the European magazines and scene come into our scenes > demanding huge fees and arriving with difficult attitudes, resulting > to a trend of the US getting InSourced...? No offence meant to anyone, but this is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in the last few months (at least). Is this a prank? What does an "EU boycott" achieve other than a totally needless attack on the global nature of the techno scene? I'm surprised to see this sort of aggressively isolationist mentality creeping into this field of electronic music. Besides, it's not even a consistent decision: "this collective of artists will remain tied to the American scene and American DJs", it says, but when you look at the E.A.R. roster, it's not exactly composed of rootin' tootin' pure-as-apple-pie Americans by any means. Anyway, maybe I'm over-reacting a bit. Are we going to see a "patriotic techno tour" of the Bible Belt states in the near future? Bootlegs of "French Kiss" coming out, renamed "Freedom Kiss"? It's all a bit strange, and depressing in a way. Brendan
RE: (313) Re: Dan Bell
On a side note, Why do we appologize for posting a party or appearance from a d.j.I don't think of it as spam. I love to see where these guys are playing and learning about different events in other areas. I don't think 313'ers are inconsiderate enough to start abusing this by posting every party they are involved with, At least I haven't seen it on the list yet. I think it's a good thing to mention that a dan bell or claude young, or whoever is playing in your area. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:21 AM To: KiDD*e* Cc: ThReE-oNe-ThReE Subject: (313) Re: Dan Bell Dan Bell's also making an appearance here (minneapolis) on Oct 29, at the Dinkytowner sorry about the spam but i'm excited, i missed him at Movement this year. - jobot - Original Message - From: KiDD*e* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:55 am Subject: Re: (313) Frequency Berlin DJ sets (claude young) > Hmmm sorry for theses duplicates email. > I guess my SMTP server went on a 'moody' strike yesterday. And decided > to make up for lost time this morning... > > By the way, i remember someone asking, Daniel Bell is here again with > Dimbiman @ the Nouveau Casino, this saturday (October 2nd). > > - KiDDy. > > > - Original Message - > From: "KiDD*e*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ThReE-oNe-ThReE" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:36 PM > Subject: (313) Frequency Berlin DJ sets (claude young) > > > > Dont know if my previous email made it to the list... > > i repost : > > > > Here is the link to claude's mix : > > > http://www.frequencyberlin.com/common/sets/claude.young.detroit- > mastermix-04-1.mp3 > > > > - KiDDy > > >
(313) 4 U Southeast 313er's
Once again just want to remind you that T.Linder, Darkcube, Dan Lucas and Annix will be in Greenville South Carolina. If any of you are interested email me privately and I will give you more details. -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:41 AM To: 313 Org Subject: RE: (313) Cyborg K mix now up at EmotionElectric.com Hi Robert (and 313): I believe it is up now, btw I'd love to hear feedback from the list on the mix. I'm preparing to do a second installment soon (Unlcky Bachelor vol. 2), so be on the lookout! ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) Cyborg K mix now up at EmotionElectric.com Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:09:30 - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 Org" <313@hyperreal.org> Looks gravy, but can't find it on your site yet, Robin -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:10 PM To: 313 Org Subject: (313) Cyborg K mix now up at EmotionElectric.com We are pleased to host a freeform mix by listmember Cyborg K. See emotionelectric.com for the goods. Hope you enjoy it. Tracklist: 1. The Infiltrator AKA Andre Holland - Thought 1 (Underground Resistance, UR045) 2. Liquid Liquid - Scraper (Grand Royal, GR049) 3. The Pixies - Monkey Gone to Heaven (Elektra, 0-66707) 4. Daniel Wang - Pistol Oderso (Ghostly International, GI-6) 5. Cybotron - Alleys of Your Mind (Obsessive, EVSLP20) 6. Outputmessage - Bernard's Song (Ghostly International, GI-13A) 7. Telex - Raised by Snakes, Maurice Fulton mix (SSR, SSR213) 8. B52's - Mesopotamia (Obsessive, EVSLP20) 9. Yello - Let Me Cry (Elektra, 60401-1) 10. Kero - Ti Schlumpa (Ghostly International, GI-13A) 11. Hal Lindsey - The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon 12. Chamaleon - Thought 2 (Underground Resistance, UR045) 13. Mad Mike - Moor Horseman on Bolarus 5 (Underground Resistance, UR045) 14. ??? unknown 15. Rechenzentrum vs. Column One - Art 2 Dance (Shitkatapult, Strike 30) 16. Soulcenter - Funky Sterling (NovaMute, NOMU 89 LP) 17. Herbert - Leave Me Now, Richard Devine mix (!K7, !K7097ep) 18. The Upsetters AKA Lee "Scratch" Perry - Crying About You (Trojan, TTL 13) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) If
With that said, I do agree with what you said about Chicago. When I hear what people are known to call Detroit Techno, I think more of Chicago House. I guess I was like the people that May was complaining about. I always thought of Detroit Techno being more of the old mills and hood sound/ Old UR. That's mainely because I miss the whole first generation growing up. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:53 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) If I just got this message. And I don't think You will get flamed, but I always question when d.j.'s blame berlin for the harder looped based techno. I always thought it was Old Mills and Hood that started that stuff. Hood later on slowed down the tempo of his tracks and mills changed all together but they really started the hard aggressive stuff along with Banks. Oh also let's don't forget about Alan Oldham. And Denham. Even though jay came later. On a side note. What do you do there for TBS? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) If this post never made it to my inbox. if it posts to the list can someone let me know privately so i don't try again? thanks. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal subject:RE: (313) If to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. I understand the claims laid by the european cities as far as the amount of support they have given techno over the years, but if detroit is held up as the first city, then support cannot factor into the award at all (detroit = support HA!). as far as contributions to the sound, chicago was a major influence on the detroit sound (and vice versa) before any of the overseas heads ever got ahold of it, and continued to be a major factor in the shaping of the sound via labels like relief and their ilk. so i vote Chicago. the Berlin thing kind of disturbs me because as I see it, they were the ones that misdefined techno to the world. Derrick May was talking about this in his interview earlier ( "I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle..." ) I think a large part of the reason that people expect that non-melodic, abrasive, intrusive sound when they think techno is because that's what they were taught by the Berlin school (okay stockholm too) to expect. I laugh because even the creators of this music are trying to shake off that stigma many years later. I don't hold any contempt for Berlin or any of it's inhabitants (think it's one of the best places on earth right now actually) but i just feel that berlin's contributions to the advancement of techno (artistically speaking, not support-wise) are just recently comin! g into their own in the last 5 or 6 years. the berlin influence seemed to hinder that advancement early on by narrowing the techno field of vision to loopy aggressive bizness. dunno, guess i'm rambling now. hope I don't get flamed for this one. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech "Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change."
RE: (313) If
I just got this message. And I don't think You will get flamed, but I always question when d.j.'s blame berlin for the harder looped based techno. I always thought it was Old Mills and Hood that started that stuff. Hood later on slowed down the tempo of his tracks and mills changed all together but they really started the hard aggressive stuff along with Banks. Oh also let's don't forget about Alan Oldham. And Denham. Even though jay came later. On a side note. What do you do there for TBS? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) If this post never made it to my inbox. if it posts to the list can someone let me know privately so i don't try again? thanks. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal subject:RE: (313) If to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. I understand the claims laid by the european cities as far as the amount of support they have given techno over the years, but if detroit is held up as the first city, then support cannot factor into the award at all (detroit = support HA!). as far as contributions to the sound, chicago was a major influence on the detroit sound (and vice versa) before any of the overseas heads ever got ahold of it, and continued to be a major factor in the shaping of the sound via labels like relief and their ilk. so i vote Chicago. the Berlin thing kind of disturbs me because as I see it, they were the ones that misdefined techno to the world. Derrick May was talking about this in his interview earlier ( "I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle..." ) I think a large part of the reason that people expect that non-melodic, abrasive, intrusive sound when they think techno is because that's what they were taught by the Berlin school (okay stockholm too) to expect. I laugh because even the creators of this music are trying to shake off that stigma many years later. I don't hold any contempt for Berlin or any of it's inhabitants (think it's one of the best places on earth right now actually) but i just feel that berlin's contributions to the advancement of techno (artistically speaking, not support-wise) are just recently comin! g into their own in the last 5 or 6 years. the berlin influence seemed to hinder that advancement early on by narrowing the techno field of vision to loopy aggressive bizness. dunno, guess i'm rambling now. hope I don't get flamed for this one. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech "Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change."
RE: (313) Claude Young Announcement
Holy snap,, this is the first I've heard of this. I completely understand his frustrations in music. I have them in music and my career ,,,lol. When he;s referring to overpriced d.j.'s, I wonder if he's talking about other techno d.j.'s or the trance and dance wannabee rockstars -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:29 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Claude Young Announcement Hi :) Last few days i found on web few announcment written by claude young, on which he say that this is his last active season as dj and producer... can anyone thell me is that thrue announcemet or somebody joke.. tx here you have announcement>>> Well friends, after some very long night's thinking this over I have decided to take some time out of the music world for a while. This was not an easy decision and I want to say thanks to all of you for your support over the past years. There is a strong possibility 2004 might be my last year involved in electronic music so if you get the chance to come to any of the shows in the remainder of 2004 please come and enjoy yourselves. When u dedicate your life to something for over a decade and it goes completely off the rails you have to make adjustments or go down with the ship. People have their pre-conceptions and their likes and dislikes, that's fine with me, we are all meant to be free. The scene used to be full of vibrant and creative people but now it's just full of moaners who support artist who don't give a about them. All they are interested in is boosting their own name and increasing their bank accounts. Next time u go to a party and the ticket price is amazingly high for you to see a DJ u cant event speak to before, during or after his set think about what is important to them. Call me stupid but i thought it was only human to engage other human being's was I wrong??? Someone on a post said "if claude young wanted to sell out he could have a long time ago but he never did". Before this though another person sent a post to Detroit-Luv saying "well im sure he'll make a lot of money charging for the farewell tour". These comments are not the main reason but they are a factor, how much more of my life am I to give only to have my work constantly thrown back in my face in favor of other artist who are only concerned with the bank balance of their account Next time this guys shells out a wad of cash to see some guy mix 40 records together that all sound the same he should ask himself what is really important. I figure my energy is better served helping people. So im considering being a volunteer in a foreign country. Possibly an aid worker or something similar. Anything to help make other peoples lives a little better. Every man has his breaking point and I have been on the road since i left Detroit over 11 years ago, every week. So im taking some time out for once and if i decide to come back it will be under different circumstances. I've had bad management coupled with other setbacks as well so if i do come back ill be handling everything independently with a small group of friends in Glasgow. hope this answers all your questions -- Sudjelujte u Iskon Bonus nagradnom programu i osvajajte nagrade. Saznajte više na web adresi http://www.iskon.biz/bonus/
RE: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal
How many of you actually use samples in your music. I'm just curious. I haven't since the mid nineties. If you want your music to be used in any other kind of media other than just releasing it on vinyl, you already had to clear all samples. No advertisment, commercial or theatrical producers will use any music without full licensing of samples and from my experience even if I did have the licenses they would shy away from my tracks that had samples. I guess because they didn't trust me. :) Either way , because of that I stopped a long time ago and really haven't missed it. I do sample the hell out of myself and my environment. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:18 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal -- Original Message -- From: Kent Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=43259 > >What a bunch of killjoys they are in the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals. > >This is a call to arms: Everyone needs to make a track made ENTIRELY >of uncleared samples. The new ruling basically says that samples of >ANY length need to be licensed. So you could, for example, take a >recording, and make notes out of single cycle samples, and it would be >illegal. good luck enforcing that. they already cant enforce the laws that exist today. its a sham so george clinton can get more money to buy crack rocks. as much as i love and respect that man for his contribution to music, he can step off the dick at any moment. honestly, i find this ruling will change just about nothing in the reality of making good records. it might change what you hear on mainstream radio, but who really cares about that? tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) The South Welcomes DTM
That's right,, The dirty south will host probably it's first night of Detroit Techno, Electro, Industrial, and DnB from the Detroit Techno Militia. Are there any other techno happening in the south? Or how about Boston on the weekend of the 16th and 17th. -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: new records Erm - couple I heard recently that are not bad: Ame - Ame mini LP on Sonar Kollektiv Kind of odd record, quite a big Chi house influence apparent, but a bit more overtly melodic than say Claro Intelecto - some duff tracks but some corkers as well. Natures Plan feat Ed Motta (kenny Dope Mix) on Far Out This is a special mix done by KD for Far Out's 10th Birthday and it's pretty nice actually - great scat vocals from Ed Motta as well. The mix also preserves Marc Mac's exquisite strings - nicely done I think both of these will be out over the next couple of weeks or so.
RE: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix
this is an Awesome vintage mix,, thanks. I wish I knew what those tracks were myself. I'm surprise someone on 313 posted this. This type of techno is usually looked down upon on here. -Original Message- From: Ivan Tomasevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:46 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix at the bottom of the page http://www.ump3.de/content/livearchiv.html or direkt link for download http://www.simple-answer.com/DJmix.mp3 it would be nice if someone could compile a tracklist for this mix regards ivan --
RE: (313) Techno Geography
I'm in NC like JT, and I don't think things (techno related) can get any worse anywhere else. But When I think about moving to a better place I automatically think of the addage that people make a place (city) the city doesn't make a person. Well maybe New York Does. But to be honest I would be faced with the same situations ANYWHERE that I am faced with here. I may get more bookings in Germany or Detroit or somewhere in Europe, but would I get enough to support my life??? And if I did would I actually enjoy it? What's holding me back has nothing to do with where I am. I'M holding myself back. I'M the one that can't decide whether I really want to play out in a smoky cub 4 nights a week. I'm the one that has to decide whether I would be happy with less money than what I make at my 9 to 5. To make a long story short neither Berlin or Detroit would make those decisions easier. If you want to make a change then change yourself and then move. -Original Message- From: fwdthought [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:52 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Techno Geography Friends, I think all of this talk on geography and how it affects our productivity/ involvement/ opportunities as producers, djs, artists, fans etc. is a key topic. It matters, and it does not matter. First, I must quote The Pet Shop Boys... "...there's a lot of opportunities, if there are'nt you can make them..." I've been very tempted to move to Detroit. However, after questioning my motivations, I see that by doing so, I am only chasing myths and ghosts of what I think a "Detroit" experience "should" be. I can say that the few times I have visited, I have been completely blown away: the sincere people, Detroit's love of ALL music, Detroit's freakishness...and of course all of the incredible artists that populate that city, in their varied mediums, not just techno music. I'm talking photgrapy, advertising, graphic design, political thought, journalism. Detroit Rock City! Godamn it! I really think you are born into it and must have it in your blood and veins. I am happy with the idea that it CANNOT be transplated by a simple change of geography. (Apply to your dream city/ situation of choice) Great teachers want their disciples to spread the word, set up their own churches, communes, record labels, clubs, 'zines...etc. Detoit is the teacher. I guess it depends on what you are doing. I have found that more easy going evirons fuel my creativity, as a producer. I can riff and ramble on this a lot more. My head hurts right now. Peace, Louis
RE: (313) washington dc?
Interesting to see the comments. I would love to see a list of people playing in other areas , just to see if it's as bad everywhere else as it is in the south east. D.C.'s List D:Fuse & Ray Kang Sander Kleinberg Sasha Dimitri from Paris Nigel Richards Tiesto Chris Fortier Emma Feline Christopher Lawrence Danny Howels Jimmy Van M Paul Oakenfold Grooverider Feelgood Ms. Kitten Mark Farina Steve Porter George Acosta Doc Martin John Digweed Ferry Corsten Armin Van Buuren Paul Van Dyk Bad Boy Bill Donald Glaude Charlotte, N.C.'s List Keoki Doc Rock Malicious Mike Miles Maeda Odi Pollen Grooverider ( Raleigh) Dom & Roland Deisel Boy Paul Van Dyke Jerry Bonham Dara Hive Mark Farina D.J. Heather X-Ecutioners James Lavelle Transparent Sound Please Pray For Us.
RE: (313) Laptop performances
"That said, I wouldn't be okay if someone just put a boombox up on stage, inserted a CD, pressed play, and then sat down and read a book while it played. I like to know that they're having at least *some* active influence over the sounds being created. :)" That's the problem I have with some laptop performances. Even if the music is good, to me it's not a performance if you're just pressing play. A lot of the time this happens with Laptop p.a.s because they can usually have the fully produced track on the computer. I really don't want to hear the same thing that's on the vinyl. I want to hear A PERFORMANCE of that song. A Performance to me doesn't mean a dog and pony show, but an actual different musical interpretation of the song. These kind of "press play" performances are not solely indicative of laptops ( I've seen plenty with MPC's also) but they do tend to happen more often with computer performers. I've also seen a decline in Live P.a.'s in this area (South east USA) and I think it's because all the producers are now producing solely on their home p.c.'s and CAN"T or at least won't perform their material until they get a laptop also. Personally , this is sad. -Original Message- From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:02 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Laptop performances Just my personal preference here, but I don't really care what they're doing on stage or what tools they're using. All that matters to me is the music they create. It's about the ears and not the eyes. If the music isn't good then no amount of visual stimulation is going to change that. At that point, they should just change their name to Britney, hire a choreographer and move to a genre where appearance is valued over substance. Again, just my personal ideals here, no offense intended towards anyone. That said, I wouldn't be okay if someone just put a boombox up on stage, inserted a CD, pressed play, and then sat down and read a book while it played. I like to know that they're having at least *some* active influence over the sounds being created. :) john. > So I've been having a bit of a discussion on a local messageboard > about laptop performances. > > By and large, they're really BORING. It looks like people are checking > their email. Or, if they're bopping along, it looks like they're > checking important email but really need to go to the toilet. > > What's the solution? Name some laptop performances you've seen that > were really good SHOWS. And say why they were. Is it really simply a > case of having stellar visuals as well, or is there a whole new > paradigm out there for this type of performance? > > I liked Kraftwerk's minimal-movement-black-suits-and-plinths affair, > but that sorta ties in with their aesthetic, and I heard Aphex Twin > did a show where he just lay on the floor and twiddled with the laptop > - no effort at all. That appeals to me in a twisted way but is > somewhat gimmicky. > > I personally wonder if laptop performances are more suited to more > artistic interpretations - ie having a gig in an office, with extras > sat at desks with PCs as well, and only one of them is the musician. > Stuff like that.
RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here (charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:17 PM To: Erin Bate Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; /0 Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well. So what part of the business do they need to run better? Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part? Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash part? Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt? I'd like to know... Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen again. How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival? MEK Erin Bate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thms.com>cc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement 06/01/04 02:51 PM I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes. ~E >From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success. But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit can't let this slip away. this is an excellent article - really says it like it is. I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF should read this I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I can go again next year where do I send my check?
RE: (313) Worst Track Played (Was Saunderson & Craig last weekend)
He did the exact same thing here. Open the night with it. And it didn't get much better after that. I thought he was doing it because he thought that was what people in the south was into. I guess that's what he's into. BTW Electric Avenue,,, I couldn't stand the song when it was originally released so now it bothers me even more when I hear it. Nigel Richards actually played a britney Spears or someone that sounds exactly like her re-mix , this past weekend. It more shocking than anything. NIGEL= pop female vocal re-mixes??? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:47 PM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Worst Track Played (Was Saunderson & Craig last weekend) you want bad - you should have heard the track aquaviva played at twilo in new york, before richie hawtin. a big, big guitar solo over a 4/4 beat. and to make it worse it was being played on one of the loudest sound systems in the world. that was a very big dancefloor to clear. on the positive side, love his labels definitive and plus 8. james www.jbucknell.com Ken Odeluga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To 06/05/04 09:36 PM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Worst Track Played (Was Saunderson & Craig last weekend) also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really, really bad Hmm. What's wrong with it? Eddie Grant - dreadlocked reggae musician- sporting synths and drum machine at the high in the mix out of nowhere in 1982 (or whenever it was.) It's notable and not cheesy at all. The lyrics hint about the (then) oppressiveness and inner-city blight that Electric Avenue is not a million miles away from even today. Also check 'Livin' On The Frontline'. I don't even like the tracks enough to own them but I don't think they're as bad as all that. k ForwardSourceID:NTBCDE
RE: (313) Movement Fest Article...
"Even with mystery surrounding Movement goings-on, clubs and artists have pushed ahead with night-time party plans, comfortable with the notion that Memorial Day Weekend is now established as a big techno ticket in Detroit -- regardless of what happens at Hart Plaza itself." Out of everything that article had to say the above mentioned was the most interesting to me. !! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:14 AM To: Chris Anglesey Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Fest Article... well organising it like this sure is gonna keep the whole thing underground :) ya gotta admire detroit techno folks flair for drama eh? robin... Chris Anglesey wrote: > check this out... > > http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move5_20040505.htm > > >
(313) The Business of it all.
Do any of you guys have a business or personal manager, a music attorney, booking agent,,etc.etc. If the answer is yes, send me an e-mail letting me know if it's helping. If the answer is no, then say why? No I'm not a manager,, I'm an electronic artist like everyone else that's pondering the idea of seriously treating my art as a business. I get discouraged when I see and meet amazing talents ( not to mention any names) that are broke as a joke or are simply unknown outside of our circles. Thoughts,ideas, comments ??,, Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: !RE: (313) Friday Question A, I seee! :-) Ah well, maybe seeing Kraftwerk this SATURDAY (so eager that I am consistently bringing it forward in my mind! But then there is also the Thursday gig too) will cheer Jon up. I assume you'll be there Jon? Ken >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:08 AM >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Friday Question > > > > > > > >the problem starts when you ask a friday question and get a monday >answer. something to do with the alienation from the means of >production and the exploitation inherent in selling one's labour makes >people a little grumpy on mondays. james >www.jbucknell.com > > > > > Ken Odeluga > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To > 16/03/04 05:20 AM 313@hyperreal.org > > cc > > Subject > Re: (313) Friday Question > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:35:39 - >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "john harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >why don't you just f k off > >Can everyone who does not want to see shake play at their party raise >there hand? > >Thank you... > >Ken: > >What's going on 'ere then? It seemed an innocent question. Hope no >one's insulted honest Jon? Not been watching this thread very closely, >I admit. How do these heated situations come about from seemingly >nothing?! > > >ForwardSourceID:NT896E > >
RE: (313) dying business? [was: RE: Nu Era on Twisted Funk]
Has anyone seen or know of any studies of who actually buys the underground stuff,,meaning the demographic The reason I ask is because locally I've seen a decline in NON d.j.'s buying records. If that's true elsewhere can the underground industry survive with just d.j. purchases? Either way I think it will be very important to find actually WHO buys our stuff! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Cyclone Louise Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:51 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) dying business? [was: RE: Nu Era on Twisted Funk] Not dying, but changing. I know I've said it before but the impact of file sharing has been profound - added to the economic uncertainty. You can talk to any label boss, from Simon Dunmore (Defected/Stealth) to Luke Solomon (Classic) to Meat Katie (and breaks are big and all that) and you'll get that view. People just have different views on how to go from here, what is the solution? I would say the majors have lost 2/3 of their staff - Universal Music shed something like 75 percent in anticipation of losses - and there will be more downsizing. OK, so many peepz here could care less about majors but the smaller labels are hurting too. Classic got burnt big time when their distributor went under! I think there is a perception that house music was dull in 2003 with the likes of Basement Jaxx saying as such in interviews but there was plenty of great underground stuff, as we know, but not great sales. DJ Sneak says he had trouble finding a UK label deal for his album 'cause labels were scared - and he's had that huge Fix That Sink hit so he would be a viable prospect, you'd imagine. The media backed the rock revival thing - on the basis of everyone liking Coldplay, I don't know - but it's more that the market has diversified and actually I think it's become easier for kids to like rock and dance and urban, there's more hybridisation happening, too. In Australia there have been several sell-out tours and I reckon people are saving money on records by downloading and using it to attend live shows. >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >Pleased to see that it's clearly going to be popular (judging >> from the >> >responses I got and the number of places which are going to stock >> it - >> >around the world). Is this *really* a dying business?! >> >> i know from talking to a couple detroit house cats that their records >> are all pressed at one place and that theres pretty much a long line >> to get stuff pressed up. stuff seems to be selling out pretty quick >> too. so who knows. > > > I think there's mixed indicators. While you have the death of some > major distributors this year, I read an article in the Metro the other > day (granted, not the most reliable source) that vinyl sales have > increased in 2003 (I think in the UK) for the first time in however > many years. The article atributed it to a renewed interest in > guitar-based music in teenagers, which I thought was a pretty strange > explanation! More than anything, I think there's been a lot of hurt in > techno, and a lot of health in house, broken beat (Goya *must* be > doing great), downtempo stuff and underground hip hip. This doesn't > *necessarilly* say anything about the quality of the releases, of > course. I know some of the best techno labels seem to be fighting an > uphill battle to move records, but I think that's probably a result of > lots of people who have been into techno losing interest in shopping > for it as their tastes generally diverge into other things. I know I > stopped looking for a while, and certainly stopped buying, but as the > momentum has been picking back up in techno, so has my purchasing. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
Coming back to this late. But basically I agree with the below statement it clarifies what I was trying to say earlier. The book was well written and informative. I found out a lot about ecstacy that I didn't know and a lot about how some sub-genres got started. I just couldn't stomach his ideas and theories on our music. But honestly I have problems with over theorizing music in general so I may be biased. :) This has been a good discussion. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Redmond, Ja'Maul; robin Subject: RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture Oh, I completely agree that Reynolds had an agenda. And like I said, I basically disagreed with every conclusion he came to. BUT...while his thesis may have been severly flawed, the research that he presents (ie- the history of ecstacy culture) is still compelling and well written. This is all sounding too scientific. Its music. And you can take the exact same story of ecstacy culture and come to completely different conclusions. here's an interview with Reynolds that helps explain where he's coming from: http://www.space-age-bachelor.com/features/99/reynolds.htm he talks extensively about "Energy Flash" here's a piece where Reynolds first seems to develope his theories on Detroit techno vs hardcore: http://www.epidemik.com/features/articles/hardcore_article.htm and finally- a rather extensive page on Reynolds that finds him "rediscovering house" with the Mille Plateux guys: http://www.jahsonic.com/SimonReynolds.html Everyone's music collection is based around 'phases'. Reynolds just does an excellent job capturing his phases in print. Don't diss because he went through some phases that you didn't. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >To immediately address Mr. Knight's concerns, I blieve the book was > >first published around 97-98, which is when big beat was a new and > >exciting sound. And judging from where electronic music went after > >big beat in terms of mass appeal, seems as though Mr. Reynolds wasn;t > >that far off. > > >Granted- Big Beat now seems trivial, but you can't deny the > >importance of the Chemical Brothers and Norman Cook in bringing > >electronic music to a higher level of awareness to the public. A > >level that hasn't been topped since. > > Ah this is true... > However, I'd like to know how many people who went to all the Chemical > Bros. and Fatboy Slim shows back in the heyday of Big Beat are still > listening to this music? It seems to be more of a "flash and it's > over" movement as opposed > to the steady life of techno and house. > So - after the party was going for a few years how many people were already > heading > for the door? Now the White Stripes are "saving rock 'n roll" > > The mass appeal didn't last in either case of Hardcore or Big Beat. > I'd like to see a new addition with some kind of update on his > thoughts or maybe "Generation Ecstasy part deux - everyone back to > mine" > > I know that the Chems and Fatboy Slim were/are immensely popular but > they had to cop rock 'n' roll images to get there - which does nothing > for any music producer > who doesn't want to sell themselves like that. I'd argue that Big Beat > brought > little attention to any other genre that wasn't presented as a circus. > Plus, how can someone write a book saying that one subgenre is going to > save the entire > world of electronic music and then turn around and slag off other > subgenres? > I think he does/did a disservice to all electronic music by leaning so hard > against some > very important styles and artists. Aphex Twin did quite a bit bringing > millions of people > into electronic music and his influences in music production are heard a > lot more today than > any Big Beat track. > > Reynolds had an agenda. > > MEK > > > > >
RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
Sorry for all the grammatical errors. I was hastengly trying to type all of that before I left for a meeting. :) But I think you got my point. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message----- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture I read it and didn't like it either. It was entertaining at times, but too biased to be a book about electroinic music in GENERAL. It was like reading a thesis paper where the writer is trying to prove that electronic music is linked to raves which in turn are linked to drugs and therefore it shouldn't be separated. The Title should've been, Generation Ecstacy, The Importance drug culture in EDM. He kept making a point of saying that EDM music and drugs "GO" together and any attempt to separate the two is not successful. i.e. concept albums have no place in edm ,,,tracks are being better than songs??? There's way too many reference to Ecstacy as been "GOOD" for EDM and even a whole Chapter on the positive use of E. All of this is fine but I think he purposefully hid this agenda in a book that was marketed as "General" book about EDM. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: FC2 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:09 PM To: 'Roland van Oorschot' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture THIS BOOK SUCKS, DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY. There is no music content in this book, I can't believe that I read it all. It is mostly about drugs and parties. I felt I wasted my time reading it, and my money even though mine was borrowed from a friend. Time IS money baby. I guess if you want to read about the gay wharehouse parties in san francisco or the early hard core partys in nyc that it might be alright. Tommy Sunshine has a part where he talks about making the journey to his first party in NYC thinking it would be a fun candy kid experience and was horrified by what Frankie Bones, Adam X, Heather Heart, and Jimmie Crash were all doing. If I remember right they were quite hardcore at the time whith X-Crash records and the such all over the market! My advice is to steer clear! Jeff -Original Message- From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture Oi! I stumbled across this book, Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture, while browsing on the Amazon.com site (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415923735/qid=1070576930 /sr= 8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-9096464-4155045?v=glance&n=507846). Is it any good? R. (Yeah, I already have Techno Rebels by Mr. Sicko ;-) --- http://www.funxiun.com ..dark.elektronix.
RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture
I read it and didn't like it either. It was entertaining at times, but too biased to be a book about electroinic music in GENERAL. It was like reading a thesis paper where the writer is trying to prove that electronic music is linked to raves which in turn are linked to drugs and therefore it shouldn't be separated. The Title should've been, Generation Ecstacy, The Importance drug culture in EDM. He kept making a point of saying that EDM music and drugs "GO" together and any attempt to separate the two is not successful. i.e. concept albums have no place in edm ,,,tracks are being better than songs??? There's way too many reference to Ecstacy as been "GOOD" for EDM and even a whole Chapter on the positive use of E. All of this is fine but I think he purposefully hid this agenda in a book that was marketed as "General" book about EDM. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: FC2 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:09 PM To: 'Roland van Oorschot' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture THIS BOOK SUCKS, DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY. There is no music content in this book, I can't believe that I read it all. It is mostly about drugs and parties. I felt I wasted my time reading it, and my money even though mine was borrowed from a friend. Time IS money baby. I guess if you want to read about the gay wharehouse parties in san francisco or the early hard core partys in nyc that it might be alright. Tommy Sunshine has a part where he talks about making the journey to his first party in NYC thinking it would be a fun candy kid experience and was horrified by what Frankie Bones, Adam X, Heather Heart, and Jimmie Crash were all doing. If I remember right they were quite hardcore at the time whith X-Crash records and the such all over the market! My advice is to steer clear! Jeff -Original Message- From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture Oi! I stumbled across this book, Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture, while browsing on the Amazon.com site (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415923735/qid=1070576930 /sr= 8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-9096464-4155045?v=glance&n=507846). Is it any good? R. (Yeah, I already have Techno Rebels by Mr. Sicko ;-) --- http://www.funxiun.com ..dark.elektronix.
RE: (313) the funky 808 drummer
Agree with brendan's comments 100% Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) the funky 808 drummer More 909 than 808 as well, I'd say the bit of drum programming most likely to cause me to dislocate a knee on the dancefloor is Suburban Knight's "The Art of Stalking"... also, "Spectral Nomad" by Robert Hood ends up sounding nearly four times as fast as its real BPM due to the dense and inordinately funky drum programming Mr Hood came up with. I respect the sheer complexity of people like Aphex Twin when it comes to drum programming, but a lot of that just sounds slightly too random for me - complexity being done for its own sake. I like a bit of understated complexity that aids the groove more than a complete wig-out, although the sound of a drum machine falling down the stairs definitely has its own certain appeal... > -Original Message- > From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 December 2003 17:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) the funky 808 drummer > > > Not to nitpick but this remark is about InSync's Storm (brilliant > record btw.) which is clever 909 programming not 808 :) > > > On 1-dec-03, at 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Reading Iridial's bio on Lee Purkis (InSync) it states: > > > > "Lee is one of the greatest Drum Machine programmers that > England has > > ever > > produced." > > http://www.irdial.com/people/in_sync.htm > > > > Now I don't really doubt this but I haven't heard enough > InSync tracks > > to > > say otherwise (working on that - anyone got any they want > to sell? ;) ) > > > > but I'd like to ask others - who do you rank up there and *what > > tracks* are > > your favorite or rank up in the top programmed drums? > > > > MEK > > > > > > > >
RE: RE: (313) Movies OT
Way back in high school,, PBS showed this documentary on Black American music. It was about two weeks long I think with an hour to 2 hour long shows. Well I remember seeing the first one about Slave hymns and such and then I lucked up and saw the one about the 80's. They went into depth about the mainstream artist but they also did about 30 minutes each on the start of hip-hop and Detroit Techno. Does anyone recognize this. I've been looking for this show for years. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE: (313) Movies OT Ahem - it was a Channel 4 documentary - mail me and I'll try and sort you out -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE: (313) Movies OT >> > The Mothership Connection is a TV documentary on "the black presence > in o= > It also features May, Atkins, Mad Mike (masked) and Samuel Delaney. > IIRC = > Sun Ra is mentioned too.=20 wo. where can I see this? is it a US documentary? do these kind of things get archived? if it was ever shown on UK tv, someone let me know, my mate may be able to lay his hands on it. ta! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Re: Outkast/She Lives in my Lap
I guess that's why it's my favorite. :) I understand the comparison to Ballad of DP Without the vocals both are awesome minimal tracks. That's minimal within funk and soul. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 4:07 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: Outkast/She Lives in my Lap Otherwise known as "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker." :) Okay, maybe not a clone, but I think Prince influenced Andre just a wee bit. -d On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > She lives in my Lap is my favorite track off of it right now. Not > necessarily my favorite completely but for right now.
RE: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
Awesome album, but forget about movement unless they donate their performance and/or movement comes up with a bigger budget this year. She lives in my Lap is my favorite track off of it right now. Not necessarily my favorite completely but for right now. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:55 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below I see the label bio uses the word 'techno' appropriately too. It's good to know that urban acts like The Roots - esp ?uestlove - are giving recognition to US electronic musicians too. I think Roots (Phrenology), Common, NERD and OutKast are exploding the category of urban. It's so exciting. I can't believe Andre 3000 played so much of the instrumentation on The Love Below either. I think this is my album of the year. -- >From: Data General <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) Outkast Speakerboxxx/The Love Below >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 3:04 PM > > > There is no way that this album won't impact the more dance-dedicated > strain of electronic music, and intensely if justice there be. > > But I think it's important to find out: does Shake like it? > > > B > > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > >> How good is this album? >> I read that Andre 3000 considers music in Europe to be more >> cutting-edge than the US, and is into Aphex Twin and so on. They sooo >> need to play Movement. >> >
RE: (313) C.D. Boycott.
Thanks a lot Michael Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Michael Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:59 AM To: Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org; Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) C.D. Boycott. Very informative site http://www.boycott-riaa.com/ Mike -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:13 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; Stephen Burd Subject: RE: (313) C.D. Boycott. I already have people wanting to put there name on a list .:) I love it,,BUT actually what I would like to do, Is to send a very informative e-mail including what the RIAA is doing and their Justification and Why as consumers we shouldn't alow it. And then set a date where we would stop purchasing c.d.s. We then can either send the e-mail to all of our friends and/or start small boycotts within our individual cities. Also we will send a copy to the RIAA with our intentions spelled out. I will defintetly start it here in Charlotte N.C. and to people I know through e-mail. If you feel that the RIAA is justified, then that's o.k. No one forces a boycott. But I just believe if that 30% c.d.sales drops to 40% or even 50% things will change. Now I heard the riaa was going to stop it anyway because of the counter-suit. But I can't find where that is actually a fact. CNN and I think Mixmag reported it. But the head of the RIAA has not made an official announcement saying the same thing. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:59 AM To: Ploegmakers, Joost; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA "you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers." Exactly MY point!! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this > stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just > 10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? > That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for > the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them > would step up also. > > I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may > have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. > facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an > intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get > the information behind the lawsuits? > > Ja'Maul Redmond > > PERKINS & WILL > > 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM > To: jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > > > > >$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? > that's $2 per song!!! > > Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist > that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had > bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart > position? > > I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists > - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've > noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the > RIAA is doing? > > I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial > hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the "game > plan", honest!). > > > MEK > > > > > "jurren baars" &
(313) C.D. Boycott
Just to let peeps know. YES , I file share and YES I download. I've download underground indie stuff but I've also downloaded mainstream stuff. I've downloaded prince, bjork, lamb,billie holiday, and others. And Have bought every last one of the c.d.'s as well. Except the lamb c.d. which I couldn't even get in america. I have maybe some odd 200 singles downloaded. But I have over a thousand of purchased c.d's and more vinyl and cassettes. Now I must go to work before I get fired and end up a homeless RIAA hater,,lol. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -----Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:59 AM To: Ploegmakers, Joost; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA "you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers." Exactly MY point!! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this > stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just > 10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? > That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for > the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them > would step up also. > > I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may > have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. > facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an > intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get > the information behind the lawsuits? > > Ja'Maul Redmond > > PERKINS & WILL > > 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM > To: jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > > > > >$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? > that's $2 per song!!! > > Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist > that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had > bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart > position? > > I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists > - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately > (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking > out against what the RIAA is doing? > > I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial > hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the "game > plan", honest!). > > > MEK > > > > > "jurren baars" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > 313@hyperreal.org > > mail.com>cc: > >Subject: Re: > (313) 12 year > old is sued by the RIAA > 09/10/03 04:31 PM > > > > > > > > > > the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3399602 > > some people are fighting back: > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658&afl =frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on t
RE: (313) C.D. Boycott.
I already have people wanting to put there name on a list .:) I love it,,BUT actually what I would like to do, Is to send a very informative e-mail including what the RIAA is doing and their Justification and Why as consumers we shouldn't alow it. And then set a date where we would stop purchasing c.d.s. We then can either send the e-mail to all of our friends and/or start small boycotts within our individual cities. Also we will send a copy to the RIAA with our intentions spelled out. I will defintetly start it here in Charlotte N.C. and to people I know through e-mail. If you feel that the RIAA is justified, then that's o.k. No one forces a boycott. But I just believe if that 30% c.d.sales drops to 40% or even 50% things will change. Now I heard the riaa was going to stop it anyway because of the counter-suit. But I can't find where that is actually a fact. CNN and I think Mixmag reported it. But the head of the RIAA has not made an official announcement saying the same thing. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:59 AM To: Ploegmakers, Joost; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA "you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers." Exactly MY point!! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this > stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just > 10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? > That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for > the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them > would step up also. > > I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may > have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. > facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an > intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get > the information behind the lawsuits? > > Ja'Maul Redmond > > PERKINS & WILL > > 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM > To: jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > > > > >$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? > that's $2 per song!!! > > Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist > that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had > bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart > position? > > I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists > - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately > (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking > out against what the RIAA is doing? > > I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial > hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the "game > plan", honest!). > > > MEK > > > > > "jurren baars" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > 313@hyperreal.org > > mail.com>cc: > >Subject: Re: > (313) 12 year > old is sued by the RIAA > 09/10/03 04:31 PM > > > > > > > > > > the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3399602 > > some people are fighting
RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
"you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers." Exactly MY point!! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost > -Original Message- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott > until this stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop > is bad what if just 10% of the people we contacted through > e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? That's a lot of people. And the > sales would drop even more. I hate for the artist to be in > the middle of this, but then maybe more of them would step up also. > > I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott > that may have already started. I would need all the > information,,i.e. facts,,rules and everything to send to > people so they can make an intelkligent decision themselves. > Does anyone know of where I can get the information behind > the lawsuits? > > Ja'Maul Redmond > > PERKINS & WILL > > 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM > To: jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > > > > >$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? > that's $2 per song!!! > > Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each > artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? > As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does > that affect their chart position? > > I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists > - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately > (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking > out against what the RIAA is doing? > > I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the > pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to > figure out the "game plan", honest!). > > > MEK > > > > > "jurren baars" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > 313@hyperreal.org > > mail.com>cc: > >Subject: Re: > (313) 12 year > old is sued by the RIAA > 09/10/03 04:31 PM > > > > > > > > > > the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, > read here: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3399602 > > some people are fighting back: > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658&afl =frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that&#x
RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just 10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them would step up also. I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get the information behind the lawsuits? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM To: jurren baars Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA >$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart position? I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the RIAA is doing? I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the "game plan", honest!). MEK "jurren baars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org mail.com>cc: Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA 09/10/03 04:31 PM the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3399602 some people are fighting back: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658&afl=frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy. jurren _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: (313) O-T: sample search
Well with a little collaboration we found it out to be Bustin' Loose by Chuck Brown. With the additional info that the neptunes don't sample. I looked up the credits of the song "Hot in Herre" and it list Chuck Brown as one of the writers. This is usually done when an original song is sampled and cleared by the new artist. What a minute now that I think of it. That (don't sample) can't be true. The neptunes sample like a Mofo. For Bustah's "Gimmie some mo" they sampled The movie Pyscho's Theme Song. (Not the shower scene song, but the main movie theme). And if you give me awhile I can think of other samples they used on other productions in addition to these two songs. Just for info. I'm not blastin the Neptunes. I actually love their work. But they do sample. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:44 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) O-T: sample search Well they claim not to use samples. Both play multiple instruments. The closest they get is to listen to a record and recreate the vibe. -- >From: "Stephen Burd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: (313) O-T: sample search >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 2:19 AM > > from what old song was the instrumental part of nelly's "hot in here" > sampled? > > thanks :) > -stephen
RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
It's all b.s to me, if vinyl is dead, why are we currently living in an oversaturated market of vinyl records being produced.? Everyone and there momma wants to do vinyl and even the mainstream cats are getting back into the market by getting remixes done on vinyl. But I will say one thing about something that came up earlier. THE COST!!! Have dub plate manufactures addressed the extremely high cost of getting a plate done. Are they even concern that MAYBE , just MAYBE the younger generation of d.j.s may abandon them for c.d. or final scratch of whatever for the simple reason that they can't afford to spend $1000 + dollars on every release? Not necessarily an viewpoint, but just a thought on my part. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:59 AM To: 'Odeluga, Ken'; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently... Aye...It could have had a slither of integrity by mentioning a) current dj technologies [1000's are like nearly 2 years old I think] b) alternatives [abelton, fs, yada yada] - as already mentioned x times its clearly not even attempting to be a article on future dj technologies so much as a large pioneer/subliminal advertisment full of tosh -- [waffle over] :) Peace, marc > -Original Message- > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:43 AM > To: 313 Detroit > Subject: RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently... > > > > It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic > superficiality but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up > any attempt to elevate ourselves and our minds. Good > journalism's a part of that. Good journalism isn't being too > godam stoopid* to recognize a not-very-clever bit > of advertizing masquerading as a news story. > > Some things are worth ranting about! :-) > > k > > > > > > > > >-- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently... > >>Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 3:18 AM > >> > > > >> why is it the journalist's fault? > >> > >> and why are you listening to Erick Morillo? > >> > >> and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm > >>> > >>> Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism > >>> > >>> "When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now," Mr Morillo said. > >"With CDJs you > >>> can loop the records at whatever point you want. > >>> > >>> GGG > >>> > >>> > >--- > >- > >-- > >>> This message is intended only for the personal and confidential > >use of the > >>> designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the > >intended recipient > >of > >>> this message you are hereby notified that any review, > dissemination, > >>> distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. > >>> This communication is for information purposes only and should not > >be regarded as > >>> an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any > >>> financial product, an official confirmation of any > transaction, or > >>> as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission > >>> cannot be > >guaranteed to be > >>> secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this > >information > >is > >>> complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as > such. All > >>> information is subject to change without notice. > >>> > >>> > > > -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Prince (does not Compute)
The erotic city and White Horse comparison is in reverse. Erotic city was
written first but as usual prince sat on it thinking it wouldn't get played
on the radio. Actually it never was supposed to be a radio single but d.j.s
jumped on it and made it a hit in the soul market at least. White horse was
written for the radio and in turn got released way before erotic city even
though it was written or produced afterwards. Now I don't know if the
writers of white horse stole anything or not, probably not, But they did
record in the same studio as Sheila E did. Who we all know was the co-lead
singer in Erotic city. Either way I believe they were more influenced by
Erotic City than the reverse.
Ja'Maul Redmond
PERKINS & WILL
1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300
Charlotte, North Carolina 28203
-Original Message-
From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:51 AM
To: Matthew MacQueen; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Prince (does not Compute)
glad you made that observation. now I know I'm not crazy. for years I've
noticed that Prince likes to "borrow" heavily from Kraftwerk (and many other
artists). I used to keep a mental list of his Kraftwerk inspired tracks, but
havent really given it much thought lately. one example that immediately
springs to mind: "Computer Blue" steals melodies from "Computer
World/Computer Love and Pocket Calculator". Darling Nikki was a rendition of
another Kraftwerk tune, but cant recall which "Trans Europe Express" I
think. Erotic City is just that "Ride TheWhite Horse" song. Anyone else
think of any others?
sean deason
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From: "Matthew MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Redmond, Ja'Maul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:45 PM
Subject: RE: (313) RE: Something in the Water (does not Computer){was
prince}
> Isn't something in the water (does not compute) one
> of the baddest electronic songs to date. Drum programming
> is badass and the minimal computer synth sound is more original than
> most things out today.
Totally agree!! listening to it now, the sounds and drum machines it's
really a funkier take on some of the sounds that sprang to life on Kraftwerk
Computerworld, which came out only a year and a half before
1999 was released! Crazy.
Peace,
Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations (Black Album)
First of all sorry about the chain of post but I get the 313 list at work and obviously I miss everything thats posted on the weekends. Plus people are posting on the one mainstream artist that probably influences my electronic music the most, even though it may not sound like it. :) I'm enjoying this. As for the black Album, Well the bootleg was WIDELY available in america. Me and most of my friends had at least the cassette version back it 87' 88'. And My girlfriend at the time bought what appears to be a non-Bootlegg Vinyl copy of it for me in D.C. and she isn't even a fan. Needless to say I have that one sealed up and vaulted away. Now it's available for sale of course. But I do agree it's not a GOOD album at all. Lovesexy was way better and I'm glad he didn't release it. Side note: The one thing I've always envied to this day about you guys in Europe was the chance to experience the Sign O the Times Tour. One of the best. Did Any of you guys actually go that tour? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:52 AM To: seth redmond; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations >so has anyone ever laid their hands on the Black Album? > >-s My sister has. She's the biggest Prince Fan I ever met: became naturalized as a US citizen and settled in Minneapolis, top that! But that's the level of nuttiness needed I think to get hold of that legendary album, which wasn't all that good anyway, she says. k > >_ >Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone >http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > >
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
"High-pitched comptuer voice". They were called his Camille songs. Some came out on regular releases, some were b-sides, others on bootlegs. They have always been my favorite because they tend to more electronic. The most popular and probably the best out of all them were "Erotic City ". And Then "If I was your Girlfriend". Dream factory is an Awesome bootleg but the songs on it are different depending on where and who you get it from. I prefer the one with only the camille songs on it. Hit me up with your mailing addy and I can compile you a Camille C.D. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Prince Album Recommendations >Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? > how about bootlegs [yes, bootlegs again...] i was listening to the interview with THE man harco pront up on the musicforspeakers website [dutch only] where they were comparing his work to '80's prince bootlegs, the high pitched quasimoto-voice for instance. so what bootlegs should i look for? i know it's an impossible question as there's dozens of 'm, but i can at least try. jurren _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) RE: Something in the Water (does not Computer){was prince}
Isn't something in the water (does not compute) one of the baddest electronic songs to date. Drum programming is badass and the minimal computer synth sound is more original than most things out today., I've always thought that it would be a great cover for green velvet. What do you guys think? I completely looked over it back in the day but now I think it's one of the best songs on that album with LRC and lady cab driver. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:42 PM To: Brent Kirkwood; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations Oh god where to start, pretty subjective: --Sign O' The Times 2xLP- probably all around best display of talent, he plays every instrument on every song 'cept for one live track done w/ The Revolution... amazing. I like this review too http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS70305141450&sql=A31820r 8ac489 --Dirty Mind (1980!) - Synth work on here and all around funkiness is electrifying I like 1999 a lot too - Something in the Water (Does Not Compute) --Purple Rain - a masterpiece in it's own right --Around the World in a Day - more conceptual, still great songs, deeper and less pop polish in some ways, though still had some hit singles too. I've always had a soft spot for "Pop Life" There are some cool songs on "Prince" LP and "For You", both completed in late 70's. but don't start there unless you get to be a real fan ;) peace, Matt MacQueen -Original Message- From: Brent Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Prince Album Recommendations After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Thanks in advance, Brent
RE: (313) Prince Album Recommendations
You've opened up a can of worms. Lol. Honestly I haven't been much of a fan of a Prince Complete Album. To me I think he's best defined by individual songs. But if I have to name some favorites. His old stuff Sign of the Times (Ecletic Funk) 1999 (Best pop Rock album) Purple rain (Best Rock Album) Around the world in a day ( Best Pop) Newer stuff The Symbol Album Emancipation Gold Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Brent Kirkwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Prince Album Recommendations After all this talk of Prince... Can anyone make an album recommendation for a newcomer to Price's work? Thanks in advance, Brent
RE: (313) RE: Mojo interviews Prince OT (1985)
This is one amazing find and one of the reasons I haven't ended my subscription to 313. Rare and important. MoJo more so than any of the performance djs (May,atkins,etc.) influenced my musical taste beyond belief. To this day I have him to thank for introducing me to 1. Kraftwerk, 2.Art of Noise, 3. Blonde 4. The Time (Get it Up and 777-9311,,not that Bird crap) 5. Funkadelic/Parliament and of course Prince along side DETROIT Techno. I had moved away from Flint by then but would come back to Detroit/Flint to spend my summers and hear the most eclectic music out at that time from this guy. I knew of his love for Prince but had no idea he actually got a chance to interview him. As for Prince himself. We'll he's my all-time favorite pop musician and back in the day Detroit was his favorite place to BE. I remember another interview where he actually said that he prefers to perform in Detroit than anywhere in America. Even during his slow fade from popularity he would sell out in Detroit where other cities had stopped supporting him. But once again I had no idea that He knew of Mojo's support of him. As for the movie thing, Well this interview seemed like it was even before Under the Cherry Moon. So at the time, Purple Rain was his only movie. In context, Mojo could say that he did great movies also. Side note, to me Sign of the Times concert movie was even better, but I do agree that the others were horrible. As for Prince's uncanny appeal to Detroit,, Well I have a story to tell that may sum it up. Let's see if any of you guys remember this. In 1980 or maybe it was 1982 Prince performed a sort of Battle concert against Rick James. I was way to young to go to a concert like that but I remember my mom and all of her sisters , brothers and cousins going but only to see Rick James. When they came back they were all fans of prince. They were just amazed to see a guy play the piano, drums and guitar in one show, play rock, funk and soul in one show and wear bikini briefs and high-heels and a rain coat. Lol,,, He was the epitome of a black musician doing WHAT they want to do despite what others think. He was crowned the new funkster by them and the rest of Detroit WAY before the 1999 or purple rain ,mtv crowd embraced him. I believe at that time Detroit loved that kind of "f**k you, I'm bad and I'm ME" attitude amongst black stars. It's a sort of sign of independence that I feel a lot of black people dreamed of especially in the 70's & 80's. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:10 AM To: Martin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) RE: Mojo interviews Prince OT (1985) > Albums...check > > Talented...check > > From Detroit...check nope, born and raised in Minneapolis. Though freakishly popular in the motor city (how many consecutive sellout shows of the Purple Rain tour were in Detroit? It was originally supposed to be FIVE but I think there were even more shows added?) > Fantastic movies...no fcuking way, could this interviewer > get any further up Prince's anal corridor...Jesh... "this interviewer" is the Electifyin Mojo so show let's show a little respect tough guy ;) Only the man responsible namechecked by Detrick/Kevin/Juan for fertilizing the birth of Detroit techno? But you knew that. Look at it context man, this was near the Zenith of his career at the time, and when it came out in 1984 and he was at the top of his game, He had only done one movie and it was hype. And you have to imagine the electricity in the air in Detroit about this time, just following a Prince concert and being on the airwaves over the whole city. He was the hottest act in the country at this time! You better believe it was exciting. I agree he's done some dumb stuff and bad music following his 80's dominance, but you can't sh!t upon the interview from today's perspective. Peace, Matt MacQueen
