RE: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
> From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 October 2008 15:37 > > According to a Berlin friend 'Tresor is the club where people go when > they can't get into Watergate or Berghain.' Yeah - that's what I meant! > they have to educate Berlin clubbers yet > again. I think Berlin clubbers are a pretty educated lot... > the crowd who don't know > anything except that they like pills, and the artist whose name rhymes > with Bitchy Rotten ... and that is not a representative reflection on them (though it may be of the seemingly now unstoppable horde swooping in for a weekend's partying and blackening the name of we English still further in Europe).
Re: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
"I think that Tresor's original cohort of fans has aged out of all night clubbing, and despite being legendary, the prime clubbing demographic of 18-25 weren't out of diapers during the club's heyday." I'd say 18-25 is definitely on the young side of the Berghain/Panoramabar demographic... the crowd is mainly 25+, particularly in the Berghian part. Watergate is a different, less interesting matter (IMO). Rather, I think the new Tresor's problems result from its line ups being fairly flat and the venue capturing very little of its original spirit. Andrew On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:37 PM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to a Berlin friend 'Tresor is the club where people go when > they can't get into Watergate or Berghain.' I think that Tresor's > original cohort of fans has aged out of all night clubbing, and > despite being legendary, the prime clubbing demographic of 18-25 > weren't out of diapers during the club's heyday. > > They have to build a new group of enthusiastic fans to go with the > elderly diehards. This means they have to educate Berlin clubbers yet > again. And they may have permanently lost the crowd who don't know > anything except that they like pills, and the artist whose name rhymes > with Bitchy Rotten. > > And for the record, no I've not been to either the old or new Tresor, > and I'm no authority on Berlin. But I hear things ... >
Re: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
According to a Berlin friend 'Tresor is the club where people go when they can't get into Watergate or Berghain.' I think that Tresor's original cohort of fans has aged out of all night clubbing, and despite being legendary, the prime clubbing demographic of 18-25 weren't out of diapers during the club's heyday. They have to build a new group of enthusiastic fans to go with the elderly diehards. This means they have to educate Berlin clubbers yet again. And they may have permanently lost the crowd who don't know anything except that they like pills, and the artist whose name rhymes with Bitchy Rotten. And for the record, no I've not been to either the old or new Tresor, and I'm no authority on Berlin. But I hear things ...
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I think they launch on the 9th of October with the new system in place. Lets hope they've also done the one downstairs as well... m On 6 Oct 2008, at 10:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha, just had enough sense to Google IOSONO, it's Fraunhofer's version of wavefield synthesis? We're playing around with a rig here ourselves at the moment. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2008 10:06 Tresor's new IOSONO 3D audio system should be entertaining at least. Apparently its based on the findings of a late 18th century Dutch Physician (on topic) and uses an array of hundreds of speakers to create a sweeping sweet spot throughout the room. at least according to their flash animation.
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Aha, just had enough sense to Google IOSONO, it's Fraunhofer's version of wavefield synthesis? We're playing around with a rig here ourselves at the moment. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 October 2008 10:06 > > Tresor's new IOSONO 3D audio system should be entertaining at least. > Apparently its based on the findings of a late 18th century Dutch > Physician (on topic) and uses an array of hundreds of speakers to > create a sweeping sweet spot throughout the room. at least according > to their flash animation.
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Hmmm, at my work we've had people from clubs come and ask us about a similar concept many times. We always patiently explain to them that it wouldn't work for sound in the way it does for light - you couldn't sense the sweet spot at another location and track its progress. So with light you see the "spotlight" elsewhere, enjoy seeing it highlight various areas and go wild (maybe) as it comes toward you. With sound it's just going to sound like the PA is bad for most of the time and you'll have no sense of the sweet spot apart from when it passes over you briefly. Not too sure if this fits what they're trying as I've not seen this video (just had a look at the site but can't spot it), do you have a link? > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 October 2008 10:06 > > Tresor's new IOSONO 3D audio system should be entertaining at least. > Apparently its based on the findings of a late 18th century Dutch > Physician (on topic) and uses an array of hundreds of speakers to > create a sweeping sweet spot throughout the room. at least according > to their flash animation.
RE: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
Tresor's new IOSONO 3D audio system should be entertaining at least. Apparently its based on the findings of a late 18th century Dutch Physician (on topic) and uses an array of hundreds of speakers to create a sweeping sweet spot throughout the room. at least according to their flash animation. Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Yeah, I'll be trying to catch those shows too. On the subject of a near empty Tresor, it's a shame that the new incarnation seems to have dropped to near the bottom of the order of choice of destination in Berlin. It's entirely understandable as there are just so many good clubs there; some of the smaller / more out of the way / less well known ones I've been to there are still better than anything we have here in Manchester (though I know from talking to visiting artists we have our own particular appeal ;-) and as for the most in demand. But I really like the new Tresor and am not sure if it's a victim of not being the freshest line up / name, too big too soon after the relaunch, too stark and dark, a.n.other reason. I'd loved to have seen it really take off and expand into that huge space where the chandelier is. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 October 2008 09:05 I see on the delsin site that Quince, Vince Watson and Steve Rachmad have dates over the weekend so all is not lost. Steve Rachmad killed it to a near empty Tresor last Saturday.
RE: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
Yeah, I'll be trying to catch those shows too. On the subject of a near empty Tresor, it's a shame that the new incarnation seems to have dropped to near the bottom of the order of choice of destination in Berlin. It's entirely understandable as there are just so many good clubs there; some of the smaller / more out of the way / less well known ones I've been to there are still better than anything we have here in Manchester (though I know from talking to visiting artists we have our own particular appeal ;-) and as for the most in demand. But I really like the new Tresor and am not sure if it's a victim of not being the freshest line up / name, too big too soon after the relaunch, too stark and dark, a.n.other reason. I'd loved to have seen it really take off and expand into that huge space where the chandelier is. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 October 2008 09:05 > > I see on the delsin site that Quince, Vince Watson and Steve Rachmad > have dates over the weekend so all is not lost. Steve Rachmad killed > it to a near empty Tresor last Saturday.
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I see on the delsin site that Quince, Vince Watson and Steve Rachmad have dates over the weekend so all is not lost. Steve Rachmad killed it to a near empty Tresor last Saturday. Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Yes sir I will be there! Hit me up if you'd like to meet up, always good to meet list folks for real. I get in Thurs and am on my own for my first 2 nights as my gang get in Saturday. Will probably be going to the Afro Acid thing plus I'm definitely up for the Bunker night on the Friday. I see Fedde Le Grand is on the same bill as KMS so I don't think that's one I'll be attending ;-) There are a other 313 connections; Aril Brikha is playing and a 100% Pure night has appeared on the program since I last looked. As for your other question, it was the first thing I wanted to know and beamed signals to that planet to find out, however the controller tells us no. Bo!!! We come to your city to hear your goodies and you keep your artists locked indoors :-( From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 October 2008 15:18 Anyone else going to be there? The only directly 313 things I've seen are the Afro Acid party with DJ Pierre, Juan Atkins and Phuture 303 and another party with KMS. no planet delsin showcase?
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Yes sir I will be there! Hit me up if you'd like to meet up, always good to meet list folks for real. I get in Thurs and am on my own for my first 2 nights as my gang get in Saturday. Will probably be going to the Afro Acid thing plus I'm definitely up for the Bunker night on the Friday. I see Fedde Le Grand is on the same bill as KMS so I don't think that's one I'll be attending ;-) There are a other 313 connections; Aril Brikha is playing and a 100% Pure night has appeared on the program since I last looked. As for your other question, it was the first thing I wanted to know and beamed signals to that planet to find out, however the controller tells us no. Bo!!! We come to your city to hear your goodies and you keep your artists locked indoors :-( > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 October 2008 15:18 > > Anyone else going to be there? The only directly 313 things I've seen > are the Afro Acid party with DJ Pierre, Juan Atkins and Phuture 303 > and another party with KMS. no planet delsin showcase?
(313) Amsterdam Dance Event
Anyone else going to be there? The only directly 313 things I've seen are the Afro Acid party with DJ Pierre, Juan Atkins and Phuture 303 and another party with KMS. no planet delsin showcase?
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Oh yeah. I am interested in after parties too. I've heard I will be going to an electro party tomorrow night though I don't yet know the name. that's most likely this one: Coming Thursday October 17th: Tronies, Amsterdam Dance Event special with The Bays (UK), Detroit Grand Pubahs (USA), DJ Arthur Baker (USA), Grom (D), Accu (FIN), 3-1 (NL), KidGoesting (NL), Steffi (NL) and Foreign (NL) with visuals by Flavor (NL), Zipfer (NL) and California (NL). 21.00 till 05.00, Paradiso, Amsterdam, ¤ 14,- and next week there's the Sun Ra dedication night, they're showing the movie 'space is the place' and afterwards jimi tenor and kirk degiorgio are playing/performing. all to celebrate the release of the sun re dedication album! jurren _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
RE: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
Oh yeah. I am interested in after parties too. I've heard I will be going to an electro party tomorrow night though I don't yet know the name. -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2002 10:28 To: 'Robertson, Steven'; 313 List (E-mail) Subject: RE: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event I am just going to one of the afterparties with Aril Brikha at club Panama... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've just had a last minute invite to attend this conference > and wondered if > there are other people on this list who will be there. I will > be attending > with the K-os.net group and we will be looking for > interesting people to > discuss independent music and potential application of Internet > technologies. > > The following link has a complete list of delegates. I am particularly > interested in electro & techno associated labels and other > delegates so if > you can make any recommendations I would be grateful. It claims to be > Europe's main electronic and dance music conference. > > http://www.amsterdam-dance-event.com/main/delegates.php > > Thanks. > > Steve > -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: (313) Amsterdam Dance Event
I am just going to one of the afterparties with Aril Brikha at club Panama... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've just had a last minute invite to attend this conference > and wondered if > there are other people on this list who will be there. I will > be attending > with the K-os.net group and we will be looking for > interesting people to > discuss independent music and potential application of Internet > technologies. > > The following link has a complete list of delegates. I am particularly > interested in electro & techno associated labels and other > delegates so if > you can make any recommendations I would be grateful. It claims to be > Europe's main electronic and dance music conference. > > http://www.amsterdam-dance-event.com/main/delegates.php > > Thanks. > > Steve > -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
(313) Amsterdam Dance Event
I've just had a last minute invite to attend this conference and wondered if there are other people on this list who will be there. I will be attending with the K-os.net group and we will be looking for interesting people to discuss independent music and potential application of Internet technologies. The following link has a complete list of delegates. I am particularly interested in electro & techno associated labels and other delegates so if you can make any recommendations I would be grateful. It claims to be Europe's main electronic and dance music conference. http://www.amsterdam-dance-event.com/main/delegates.php Thanks. Steve