Re: (313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno
There is an MC named S.U.N. (Scientific Universal Noncommercial) from Ypsilanti which is not too far from Detroit, he makes some really nice conscious underground hiphop. I produce techno but I play live keyboards with SUN sometimes, we have a show in June at the Blind Pig that I will be coming out from Chicago to do. I have never produced any tracks with SUN but we are talking about it, I am pretty interested in trying to make a more techy or electro sounding hiphop track and seeing how it comes out. So does this count as a techno/hiphop/Detroit connection? Ypsilanti is not quite Detroit, and I never lived in Detroit but I lived in Ferndale at Nine Mile. /dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 18:17:13 + From: "jurren baars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Andrew Hodgson wrote: >I got to thinkin'...is there any links between the techno scene in Detroit >and the hiphop scene? Been listening to Jaydee loads lately, and I'm sure I >heard a reference to techno in one of his tracks (NOT slagging it off >either, like Eminem) and his track 'Big Booty Express' (off the Welcome to >Detroit LP on BBE) seems like a homage to Kraftwerk and techno...? here are a couple of links i can think of: UR and hipnotech; hipnotech is a label that's released a couple of [so far 7?] 12"s with instrumental hiphop. they're supported by UR. shake; anthony shakir does[did?] production for several detroit hiphop acts, and often produces hiphop himself. that hiphop compilation on sublime; featuring tracks by shake, dan bell, robert hood and more detroit techno producers. in that same veign: a couple of songs that came out through intuit-solar; that dan bell hiphop track on the first intuit-solar 12" is so good! antidote; planet e side-label, 4? releases so far, featuring lacksydaisycal, dwele, slum village and more. dwele; featuring both on recloose's 'i can't take it' and several slum village tracks, and soon his own album. dabrye; produces hiphop as dabrye, and house/techno as ... [rob theakston can probably provide with more info on this artist] slum village 'S.O.U.L.'; from the album 'trinity' samples, or uses the same sample as 'sharivari' if i'm not mistaken channel one 'technicolor'; was sampled for a hiphop track by sir mix-a-lot. collaboration between carl craig and kariem riggins for the detroit experiment. that's all i can come up with for now, but there are probably a couple more links. jurren _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: (313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno
Andrew Hodgson wrote: I got to thinkin'...is there any links between the techno scene in Detroit and the hiphop scene? Been listening to Jaydee loads lately, and I'm sure I heard a reference to techno in one of his tracks (NOT slagging it off either, like Eminem) and his track 'Big Booty Express' (off the Welcome to Detroit LP on BBE) seems like a homage to Kraftwerk and techno...? here are a couple of links i can think of: UR and hipnotech; hipnotech is a label that's released a couple of [so far 7?] 12"s with instrumental hiphop. they're supported by UR. shake; anthony shakir does[did?] production for several detroit hiphop acts, and often produces hiphop himself. that hiphop compilation on sublime; featuring tracks by shake, dan bell, robert hood and more detroit techno producers. in that same veign: a couple of songs that came out through intuit-solar; that dan bell hiphop track on the first intuit-solar 12" is so good! antidote; planet e side-label, 4? releases so far, featuring lacksydaisycal, dwele, slum village and more. dwele; featuring both on recloose's 'i can't take it' and several slum village tracks, and soon his own album. dabrye; produces hiphop as dabrye, and house/techno as ... [rob theakston can probably provide with more info on this artist] slum village 'S.O.U.L.'; from the album 'trinity' samples, or uses the same sample as 'sharivari' if i'm not mistaken channel one 'technicolor'; was sampled for a hiphop track by sir mix-a-lot. collaboration between carl craig and kariem riggins for the detroit experiment. that's all i can come up with for now, but there are probably a couple more links. jurren _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: (313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno
That's just Eminem who has the antipathy to 'techno'. Proof is more open and gives props to eveyone. I think there's some social links. But not 'techno' so much as house/ghetto-tek. -- >From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: (313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno >Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 9:22 PM > > Hi, > > I got to thinkin'...is there any links between the techno scene in Detroit > and the hiphop scene? Been listening to Jaydee loads lately, and I'm sure I > heard a reference to techno in one of his tracks (NOT slagging it off > either, like Eminem) and his track 'Big Booty Express' (off the Welcome to > Detroit LP on BBE) seems like a homage to Kraftwerk and techno...? > Apologies if this has been discussed > > Andrew > >
Re: (313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno
While the topic is detroit and hip, may I recommend detroit artist Jimmy Edgar who records as Morris Nightingale and Kristuit Salu. He does prefuse73 style hip hop / idm / techno influenced - definitely worth checking: check http://www.m3rck.net/html/discog/009.html for previews of his album and also: UPCOMING KRISTUIT SALU LIVE SHOWS: Detroit, MI - May 23 Cranbrook Art Museum Kristuit Salu @ sound/visual installation Detroit, MI - May 23-25 Hart Plaza Kristuit Salu @ MOVEMENT festival (formerly DEMF) cheers Matt --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Detroit Hip Hop and Techno
Hi, I got to thinkin'...is there any links between the techno scene in Detroit and the hiphop scene? Been listening to Jaydee loads lately, and I'm sure I heard a reference to techno in one of his tracks (NOT slagging it off either, like Eminem) and his track 'Big Booty Express' (off the Welcome to Detroit LP on BBE) seems like a homage to Kraftwerk and techno...? Apologies if this has been discussed Andrew
Re: [313] Detroit Hip-Hop/Felix Da Housecat (Was An Open Letter to Big Tigger)
If memory serves me, I heard that Royce track on 97.9 and 105.9 quite a bit a few months ago. On Saturday 18 August 2001 19:54, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > I know this is OT but Detroit urban radio should play that Royce Da 5 9 > record Boom that DJ Premier produced for MTV's Carmen soundtrack. That is > one of the best hip-hop cuts I have heard all year. > > Also any thoughts on the new Felix Da Housecat LP - very cool, 80s electro, > guest vocalist Miss Kitten sounds like Terry Nunn from one of my fave 80s > bands Berlin (remember that track The Metro?), not as good as I Love > Electrikboy though. Funky artwork. > > >I know this deals with hiphop rather than techno...but this does concern > >music in the 313 so I thought you might be interested... > > > >Dear Big Tigger: > > > >On behalf of the Detroit Hip Hop Coalition (DHHC) and the entire > >Michigan > >Hip Hop Community > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Detroit Hip-Hop/Felix Da Housecat (Was An Open Letter to Big Tigger)
I know this is OT but Detroit urban radio should play that Royce Da 5 9 record Boom that DJ Premier produced for MTV's Carmen soundtrack. That is one of the best hip-hop cuts I have heard all year. Also any thoughts on the new Felix Da Housecat LP - very cool, 80s electro, guest vocalist Miss Kitten sounds like Terry Nunn from one of my fave 80s bands Berlin (remember that track The Metro?), not as good as I Love Electrikboy though. Funky artwork. >I know this deals with hiphop rather than techno...but this does concern >music in the 313 so I thought you might be interested... >Dear Big Tigger: > >On behalf of the Detroit Hip Hop Coalition (DHHC) and the entire >Michigan >Hip Hop Community - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Detroit Hip Hop
I may get flamed for this but I just gottta say how good Eminem and D12 were in Australia. They were the hungriest rappers I have ever seen with their level of success; the show was really tight, a combination of well rehearsed routines and well timed improvisation - quite a contrast to the likes of Snoop Dogg who have come to Australia with half-a**ed shows (the idea being that they can pass off B-grade shows onto non-Americans and we will still worship them). It was really satirical, bleak and raw Detroit humour, starting with a Blair Witch spoof which ends with Eminem appearing in the infamous chainsaw sequence. (I laughed so hard.) There was a brilliant cartoon interval in the middle, skits, techno, doo-wop, it was quite different to any hip-hop show I have seen come out of the East or West. It was also interesting that Em pushed D12 to the fore, it wasn't 'Em and the support group'. (Is it true Proof's father produced Marvin? If anybody in 313 knows I would love to find out!!) Despite the controversy surrounding the tour here (which smacked of right wing controversy in the circumstances), the group proved to be typically modest mid-western kids who went fishing and bowling in downtime, Em snuck out to an underground record store and bought heaps of local records. Swift also happily acknowleged the influence of The Wizard on Detroit hip-hop and said they loved partying to techno. I think in many ways the struggle of Detroit hip-hop parallels that of Detroit techno and the new interest in the city Stateside with groups like D12 and Slum Village can only help draw this out. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
In a message dated 3/2/00 12:35:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Oh wait, that's right, Eninem snatched two Grammys. Never mind. :P -d >> Hell yeah, and it was Black History Month when he did it ! Something to think about... a. speaking of detroit hip hop--the newest HIPNOTECH record found it's way to me yesterday. i still don't know who produces these records, but it's a new division of Underground Resistance. this is #4 in a series of wonderful instrumental hip hop. excellent down tempo beats, in the minimal vein (the only comparison i can think of off hand is the work of dj premier...) beautiful, sparse and raw at the same time--some real heads muzak. check it out if you haven't yet. kudos to the UR camp for continuing to branch out. anyone know who is responsible for these releases??--i've got a few guesses, but i hate to speculate... peace-- israel
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
Slum Village be about an "in-store record signing" thang this Saturday - 04 March '00 - 3PM (sharp!) at the Los Feliz version of FatBeats. Livin' L.A.rge, J. E. v. F-B. B.
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
Slum Village be about an "in-store record signing" thang this Saturday - 04 March '00 - 3PM (sharp!) at the Los Feliz version of FatBeats. Livin' L.A.rge, J. E. v. F-B. B.
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
I may be going out on a limb here but personally I think Eminem is a cultural anomaly - I am not necessarily defending him, I don't really like his music at all, but I think he stands on his own, like, say, Teena Marie. There was a really good article in Vibe looking at the implications of Eminem's rise which sought to contextualise it within both the black/white paradigm and beyond it, if that makes sense. Those other white rap artists blowing up from Detroit, together with Everlast, are really defacto rock acts. It's only Eminem who has a 'hip-hop' (well actually 'crossover') base, but that could change as he is reportedly going 'rock' next time. I reckon Slum Village may yet blow up - the vibe on their (unreleased) album is amazing. They have already had feature reviews in the UK. Given that even great acts like The Roots (from Philly) are getting their dues at long last (which is wonderful!) there is hope yet for Slum Village and other credible hip-hoppers from Detroit. >..i read a good article with eshaam(sp?)in the source where he mentioned >that they have created a new style called acid rap which focuses on putting >out alot of releases all the time..he also mentioned the fact that every hip >hopper that made it from detroit is white and how this really made him >mad..does anyone know more about him and what he does..i once was shown >where he lives and stuff on a small excursion stateside but never really got >to hear much of the stuff he is made of.. > >..cheers.. >__
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop > esham
there is a bio of esham at horrorcore.com/natas/bio.shtml excerpt: (NATAS is comprised of Esham, TNT, & Mastermind) esham is a prolific producer, and a very smart business man. he has eschewed major labels and handles his own distribution. and he sells. his last album, 'mail dominance' had posters plastered around downtown much like you see for outfits like sugar ray and dj rap and jamiroquoi. . . his lyrics & his message have been very controversial. lots of gore & satanic overtones. 2 of esham's most memorable songs to me, bringing me back to 8th or 9th grade, are '13 ways (to commit suicide)' & 'a p**sy ain't got no face' (disgusting but hilarious) the kind of music every mom wants their 14 year old daughter listening to ;) and as far as the white rapper thing goes, champtown is getting airplay on detroit radio right now. and, hold the phone, he is not white! but he does have ties to eminem & kid rock & icp & esham. detroit hip hop is nothing if not incestuous! kelli - Original Message - From: lil' robbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop > ..i read a good article with eshaam(sp?)in the source where he mentioned > that they have created a new style called acid rap which focuses on putting > out alot of releases all the time..he also mentioned the fact that every hip > hopper that made it from detroit is white and how this really made him > mad..does anyone know more about him and what he does..i once was shown > where he lives and stuff on a small excursion stateside but never really got > to hear much of the stuff he is made of.. > > ..cheers.. > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
Can't verify, but I have heard that ICP and Esham are playing this Sunday at the State in Detroit, accompanied by everyone's favorite Sandwhich makers, the all of a sudden ubiquitous Detroit Grand Pubas! J. > > ..i read a good article with eshaam(sp?)in the source where he mentioned > that they have created a new style called acid rap which focuses on putting > out alot of releases all the time..he also mentioned the fact that every hip > hopper that made it from detroit is white and how this really made him > mad..does anyone know more about him and what he does..i once was shown > where he lives and stuff on a small excursion stateside but never really got > to hear much of the stuff he is made of.. > > ..cheers.. > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- Knecht
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
DARUCKUS!!! lil' robbie wrote: > ..i read a good article with eshaam(sp?)in the source where he mentioned > that they have created a new style called acid rap which focuses on putting > out alot of releases all the time..he also mentioned the fact that every hip > hopper that made it from detroit is white and how this really made him > mad..does anyone know more about him and what he does..i once was shown > where he lives and stuff on a small excursion stateside but never really got > to hear much of the stuff he is made of.. > > ..cheers.. > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
..i read a good article with eshaam(sp?)in the source where he mentioned that they have created a new style called acid rap which focuses on putting out alot of releases all the time..he also mentioned the fact that every hip hopper that made it from detroit is white and how this really made him mad..does anyone know more about him and what he does..i once was shown where he lives and stuff on a small excursion stateside but never really got to hear much of the stuff he is made of.. ..cheers.. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
In a message dated 3/2/00 12:35:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Oh wait, that's right, Eninem snatched two Grammys. Never mind. :P -d >> Hell yeah, and it was Black History Month when he did it ! Something to think about... a.
Re: (313) Detroit Hip-Hop
>One of the members is JayDee who also forms part of The Ummah, A Tribe >Called Quest's production arm, along with Q-Tip and Ali Shaheed Muhammad. (I >am not exactly sure of the status of this triumvirate since Tribe's demise?) Jay Dee has been instrumental (no pun intended) in the production of several top-notch hip-hop recordings, including The Pharcyde ("Runnin'" comes to mind,), De La Soul ("Stakes Is High") and Busta Rhymes, just to name a few. Undoubtedly the hip-hop persona of which Detroit should be most proud. Oh wait, that's right, Eninem snatched two Grammys. Never mind. :P -d -- Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.reverbmag.com http://www.techno-rebels.com
(313) Detroit Hip-Hop
Remember we were discussing Slum Village a few months back? Carl Craig brought Slum Village in to remix People Make The World Go 'Round - hopefully that will see light of day soon on Planet E. Slum Village are a great new hip-hop outfit from Detroit. Think Native Tongues style hip-hop for the 2K. One of the members is JayDee who also forms part of The Ummah, A Tribe Called Quest's production arm, along with Q-Tip and Ali Shaheed Muhammad. (I am not exactly sure of the status of this triumvirate since Tribe's demise?) Slum Village's album, Fantastic Vol 2, has been widely bootlegged in the underground but has never seen the light of day due to some bad decision-making at Interscope. Anyway, news is that the group have now left the label and the album will now come out in the US via on Baraka/Goodvibe/Atomic Pop in May. The album features input from Q-Tip, D'Angelo, Pete Rock, Busta Rhymes and Kurupt. Also I just got a promo copy of another hip-hop CD from a West Coast outfit called The People Under The Stairs. The title is The Next Step and it's out via Om Records. It's kinda on the ol' skool, 'conscious' hip-hop tip, very funky and upbeat. But to bring it back to 313, there are three tracks with input from one DJ Assault. Would this be the same DJ Assault?