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Sorry for the late review here but just some observations: - Omar-S made the afterparty at Trenchtown. He spun a great set with tons of classics - i believe he opened with pepe bradocks track 'life'? Of course, we had to stay until he dropped psychotic photosynthesis. The crowd was really mixed and kind of sparse. I wasn't really feeling e-man though. A bit too techy for my tastes. - The first day of the fest was great with egyptian lover and newcleus standing out. Especially when Newcleus dropped jam on it and the crowd went wild. Egyptian lover showed off his 808 and dance moves. Sound system on the red bull stage was great. - Mike grant spun a more technoish set...i had kind of been expecting a housier vibe from him. - PB Wolf's set was great with tons of classic soul and hip hop jams thrown together to make heads bob. He even dropped iceberg slim. - Dan bell's set on the main stage kind of mystified me as he seemed to be running all over the stage attending to the many devices that were set up. And of course he did the vocals on baby judy. - As has been mentioned TP's set was fun and phone was in full effect. - Afterparty at soul skate was awesome but we didn't get there until late (1ish) and I kept falling into couples that I didn't know. This happened before I had the nerve to get on the floor (i forgot how to stop and was heading for the bench where they were sitting :) and on the floor when someone whizzing by me made contact and I lost my balance. So I ended up clinging to a couple that happened to be skating by for a bit. Pretty funny but at least I didn't end up falling the whole night. - Sunday kicked it off with magda who, as has been mentioned, was pretty indistinguishable from other beatport monkeys - Kenny larkin destroyed the crowd on sunday and was one of my favorite sets. I have seen him before but never quite in the same form. Everyone was chanting deeetroit deeetroit and even some body surfing going on... - Afterparty at Juan's loft was interesting with a 'dj' in the chillout room putting on one record at a time then jacking the fader and eqs. I think at one point he hit the needle and lost it completely. Odd. Juan's set was good stuff with starlight, etc. DJ that went on after him played some serious techno with balls ala dj bones' bodybags. - Monday was all about the hot ghetto tech mess with godfather and the 2 live crew dj. Paxahau dancers and crowd loved it. - Kevin saunderson's set wasn't really doing it for me. He played pretty trancey stuff but the crowd ate it up. He was getting liquored up onstage drinking from some funky bottle. - See previous post for my review of the Motown Throwdown. I will post pictures and videos perhaps. I just bought a canon sd870 and I must say I am very impressed by the sound quality in the videos I took. I had expected the bass to be all distorted but they turned out good. -drew On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Arturo Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Overall I put this on par with the last few years. Some moments of > exceptional music but I wasn't really blown away by very much at the > festival over three whole days. > > a few thoughts: > -Newcleus was a -hell- of a good time > -Cobblestone Jazz was great > -I like Kill Memory Crash better without the drum pads > -Not familiar with Girl Talk, but that whole stage was a mob scene.. > never seen it so crowded with so many people on stage, etc. just for > some hip hop mash-ups. > -Beatport Stage was a complete waste of time, I couldn't tell the > difference between a single performer any of the times I was over > there. > -Pioneer stage was entirely too close to the main stage, why not put > it back over by the left of the entrance like they used to do? > -Terrence Parker was a lot of fun, everybody really seemed to enjoy it > -The afterparty at Old Miami was my favorite by far > -I found Kevin Saunderson to be boring, perhaps it was just me. Maybe > the 15 photographers crowding him up on stage had something to do with > it, or maybe that Plasaiko was on before and seemed more interesting. > -Saw a few performers with some technical issues. Plasaiko, Craig, > etc. It was unfortunate they didn't have the audio working correctly > for the live instruments for Craig, it made those loops that he left > on for 5 min at a time a little too long for me, when we couldn't hear > most of the sax/clarinet, etc. > > -Arturo >
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Did the artists get paid or did they perform free? -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 3:53 AM To: /0 Cc: Frank Glazer; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: Re: (313) Festival IX I paid 50 at the door. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:05 AM, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i agree with Greg. > all those acts on terrific sound systems for 3 days in downtown detroit? > forget about it; 40 dollars is a steal > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Frank Glazer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:57 PM > Subject: Re: Re: (313) Festival IX > > >>> End of story. >>> >>> It just happened to be a "free festival" at the start until someone >>> realized, "Hey, we're losing our shirts here without people paying >>> something." That's Reality, kids. Whining about the price at this >>> point and how it was a "free festival" just makes you sound like a >>> g0dd&mned Hippie. :) >>> >>> - Greg >> >> sure, it's cheap for privileged white people from outside the inner >> city, but the original intention of the festival (for detroit people, >> by detroit people) is entirely lost when you charge more than $5-10. >> what i don't get is why they need to charge at all when there is so >> much sponsorship money being thrown at it by beatport, pioneer, red >> bull, vitamin water, etc. those sponsorships should pay for >> everything if you ask me. >> >> granted, the production values (sound, lights, staging, backstaging) >> have gone up dramatically, but so what? to what end? so that >> "Paxahau really looked after the artists, press and workers behind >> the scenes by offering top quality catering and free drinks for all. >> Even the cops got buffet lunch and dinners." >> >> Great. Charge $50 so you can cater, literally, to the superstar djs. >> What bullpucky!! >> >> Still, I'd have gone if I had had the $$. :P >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com > > -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 5/30/2008 2:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 5/30/2008 2:53 PM
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shoulda got the early pre-sales :) still though, i'd imagine most people on this list have run up a 50 dollar bar bill in a single night, so 50 for 3 days of great music is pretty reasonable - Original Message - From: "Michael Kuszynski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Frank Glazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: (313) Festival IX I paid 50 at the door. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:05 AM, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i agree with Greg. all those acts on terrific sound systems for 3 days in downtown detroit? forget about it; 40 dollars is a steal - Original Message - From: "Frank Glazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) Festival IX End of story. It just happened to be a "free festival" at the start until someone realized, "Hey, we're losing our shirts here without people paying something." That's Reality, kids. Whining about the price at this point and how it was a "free festival" just makes you sound like a g0dd&mned Hippie. :) - Greg sure, it's cheap for privileged white people from outside the inner city, but the original intention of the festival (for detroit people, by detroit people) is entirely lost when you charge more than $5-10. what i don't get is why they need to charge at all when there is so much sponsorship money being thrown at it by beatport, pioneer, red bull, vitamin water, etc. those sponsorships should pay for everything if you ask me. granted, the production values (sound, lights, staging, backstaging) have gone up dramatically, but so what? to what end? so that "Paxahau really looked after the artists, press and workers behind the scenes by offering top quality catering and free drinks for all. Even the cops got buffet lunch and dinners." Great. Charge $50 so you can cater, literally, to the superstar djs. What bullpucky!! Still, I'd have gone if I had had the $$. :P -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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I paid 50 at the door. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:05 AM, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i agree with Greg. > all those acts on terrific sound systems for 3 days in downtown detroit? > forget about it; 40 dollars is a steal > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Frank Glazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:57 PM > Subject: Re: Re: (313) Festival IX > > >>> End of story. >>> >>> It just happened to be a "free festival" at the start until someone >>> realized, "Hey, we're losing our shirts here without people paying >>> something." That's Reality, kids. Whining about the price at this >>> point and how it was a "free festival" just makes you sound like a >>> g0dd&mned Hippie. :) >>> >>> - Greg >> >> sure, it's cheap for privileged white people from outside the inner >> city, but the original intention of the festival (for detroit people, >> by detroit people) is entirely lost when you charge more than $5-10. >> what i don't get is why they need to charge at all when there is so >> much sponsorship money being thrown at it by beatport, pioneer, red >> bull, vitamin water, etc. those sponsorships should pay for >> everything if you ask me. >> >> granted, the production values (sound, lights, staging, backstaging) >> have gone up dramatically, but so what? to what end? so that >> "Paxahau really looked after the artists, press and workers behind the >> scenes by offering top quality catering and free drinks for all. >> Even the cops got buffet lunch and dinners." >> >> Great. Charge $50 so you can cater, literally, to the superstar djs. >> What bullpucky!! >> >> Still, I'd have gone if I had had the $$. :P >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com > > -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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i agree with Greg. all those acts on terrific sound systems for 3 days in downtown detroit? forget about it; 40 dollars is a steal - Original Message - From: "Frank Glazer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) Festival IX End of story. It just happened to be a "free festival" at the start until someone realized, "Hey, we're losing our shirts here without people paying something." That's Reality, kids. Whining about the price at this point and how it was a "free festival" just makes you sound like a g0dd&mned Hippie. :) - Greg sure, it's cheap for privileged white people from outside the inner city, but the original intention of the festival (for detroit people, by detroit people) is entirely lost when you charge more than $5-10. what i don't get is why they need to charge at all when there is so much sponsorship money being thrown at it by beatport, pioneer, red bull, vitamin water, etc. those sponsorships should pay for everything if you ask me. granted, the production values (sound, lights, staging, backstaging) have gone up dramatically, but so what? to what end? so that "Paxahau really looked after the artists, press and workers behind the scenes by offering top quality catering and free drinks for all. Even the cops got buffet lunch and dinners." Great. Charge $50 so you can cater, literally, to the superstar djs. What bullpucky!! Still, I'd have gone if I had had the $$. :P -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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> End of story. > > It just happened to be a "free festival" at the start until someone > realized, "Hey, we're losing our shirts here without people paying > something." That's Reality, kids. Whining about the price at this > point and how it was a "free festival" just makes you sound like a > g0dd&mned Hippie. :) > > - Greg sure, it's cheap for privileged white people from outside the inner city, but the original intention of the festival (for detroit people, by detroit people) is entirely lost when you charge more than $5-10. what i don't get is why they need to charge at all when there is so much sponsorship money being thrown at it by beatport, pioneer, red bull, vitamin water, etc. those sponsorships should pay for everything if you ask me. granted, the production values (sound, lights, staging, backstaging) have gone up dramatically, but so what? to what end? so that "Paxahau really looked after the artists, press and workers behind the scenes by offering top quality catering and free drinks for all. Even the cops got buffet lunch and dinners." Great. Charge $50 so you can cater, literally, to the superstar djs. What bullpucky!! Still, I'd have gone if I had had the $$. :P -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Scotto wrote: I had fun last weekend. I only went one day Sunday to the festival. My complaint is the price, yea it is $25 a day, but this is a historically free festival. My biggest complaint is that stupid $3.25 service charge on credit card ticket sale at the box office. Seriously, you "but this is a historically free festival" people need to get over it. People come in from all over for Coachella. They pay $290 to get fry baked for 3 days. Burning Man is up over $200. Sonar and the other Euro festivals are up to $75 a day and higher. Look, I love Detroit people and I know the economy's depressed. But 3 days of great music for under $50 total is ridiculously cheap. End of story. It just happened to be a "free festival" at the start until someone realized, "Hey, we're losing our shirts here without people paying something." That's Reality, kids. Whining about the price at this point and how it was a "free festival" just makes you sound like a g0dd&mned Hippie. :) - Greg
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I had fun last weekend. i only went one day sunday to the festival. it was nice to see people who i have not seen in a few years and i meet you at "too far gone... no way back" i was the guy with the celis white in plastic bottles. my complaint is the price, yea it is $25 a day, but this is a historically free festival. my biggest complaint is that stupid $3.25 service charge on credit card ticket sale at the box office. i really hope they bring back ritchie hawlking again next year On May 28, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Fred Heutte wrote: Give Paxahau credit for really raising the game on staging, sound and lighting. And the show runs close to on time, which is nearly a miracle. i completely agree with you here, well done. On the other hand, the lineup is less and less adventurous. I suppose Paxahau could reply that the box office numbers are the real gauge regardless of what we all think. i have noticed that there are less and less of the groups/producers i have never heard of before and i see them and i buy all the records i can find. bring back carl craig damn it! I saw very few standout performances this year (although left early and didn't see Carl Craig and many told me his set was excellent). To be fair, for the first time ever I missed a full day (Monday), not by design but other things came up. i caught some of it on my way out, i think it was "throw" with a live sax player. the main stage was packed and i was sick of dealing with crowds and had to drive back to lansing that night so i jumped out early. As for the afterparties, Derek P killed it at the Works on Friday night and Mike Servito likewise at No Way Back on Saturday, and I loved the Aquanauts (Bileebob, Skurge and Nomadico) at the UR show at Alvins -- technopunk with an attitude and a grin. no way back was a lot of fun, that will be my detroit party fix for a few months, i split around 5. scotto
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-Beatport Stage was a complete waste of time, I couldn't tell the difference between a single performer any of the times I was over there. hah, every review I read of the festival, this is the one constant.
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Overall I put this on par with the last few years. Some moments of exceptional music but I wasn't really blown away by very much at the festival over three whole days. a few thoughts: -Newcleus was a -hell- of a good time -Cobblestone Jazz was great -I like Kill Memory Crash better without the drum pads -Not familiar with Girl Talk, but that whole stage was a mob scene.. never seen it so crowded with so many people on stage, etc. just for some hip hop mash-ups. -Beatport Stage was a complete waste of time, I couldn't tell the difference between a single performer any of the times I was over there. -Pioneer stage was entirely too close to the main stage, why not put it back over by the left of the entrance like they used to do? -Terrence Parker was a lot of fun, everybody really seemed to enjoy it -The afterparty at Old Miami was my favorite by far -I found Kevin Saunderson to be boring, perhaps it was just me. Maybe the 15 photographers crowding him up on stage had something to do with it, or maybe that Plasaiko was on before and seemed more interesting. -Saw a few performers with some technical issues. Plasaiko, Craig, etc. It was unfortunate they didn't have the audio working correctly for the live instruments for Craig, it made those loops that he left on for 5 min at a time a little too long for me, when we couldn't hear most of the sax/clarinet, etc. -Arturo
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I was trying to explain It's a knockout to someone from New Zealand.. in the end i just sent him a clip. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How the heck did you have that on tap to robustly end this discussion? Are you an aficionado of old It's A Knockout clips as well as old acid records? Mind, it looks good, I want a go. -Original Message- From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2008 15:15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! Can't really picture penguins smashing each other em http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSvz_vPvyhU -- Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Placid on myspace - http://www.myspace.com/placid_88 Placid's Muzik Jamboree - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12854449841 Placid live on internet radio. Alternate Thursdays http://www.future-music.co.uk: Future Music 8 - 10pm http://www.purple-radio.co.uk: Purple Radio 6 - 8pm
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! Can't really picture penguins smashing each other's teeth out with big sticks- Let's see a polar bear hang tight with his main squeeze's fertilized egg between his feet all frackin' winter in the arctic with nothing to eat! I've always though sports would be MUCH more interesting if, for example, the Miami Dolphins *were* actually dolphins, the Lions lions, etc. To compound the fun, when Lions play Dolphins, they would have to be underwater and equipped with breathing gear, etc. jeff
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How the heck did you have that on tap to robustly end this discussion? Are you an aficionado of old It's A Knockout clips as well as old acid records? Mind, it looks good, I want a go. > -Original Message- > From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 May 2008 15:15 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Exactly! Can't really picture penguins smashing each other > em > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSvz_vPvyhU
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! Can't really picture penguins smashing each other em http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSvz_vPvyhU -- Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Placid on myspace - http://www.myspace.com/placid_88 Placid's Muzik Jamboree - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12854449841 Placid live on internet radio. Alternate Thursdays http://www.future-music.co.uk: Future Music 8 - 10pm http://www.purple-radio.co.uk: Purple Radio 6 - 8pm
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Exactly! Can't really picture penguins smashing each other's teeth out with big sticks-Polar Bears might be a little more dangerous sounding. Errr, actually penguins don't have any teeth- wow- and Joe thought we were getting off-topic with Korg Polysix discussion :) I'll shut up now! Jason 2008/5/28 Alex Lugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It IS a hockey team Jason. :) > Not that much of a stretch. Damn, I love hockey!!! > > > - Original Message > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:37:09 AM > Subject: Re: (313) Festival IX > > "The Penguins"- what sort of name is that for a sporting team??? :) > > 2008/5/28 Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> Oh yeah, before I forget. >> >> Moby, what part of "go away" don't you understand? >> >> http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoom&Site=C4&Date=20080527&Category=ENT04 >> &ArtNo=805270349&Ref=AR >> >> >> fh >> >> PS Honorable mention to the Red Wings who shut out the >> Penguins in two Stanley Cup games during the festival. >> >> > > > > >
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It IS a hockey team Jason. :) Not that much of a stretch. Damn, I love hockey!!! - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:37:09 AM Subject: Re: (313) Festival IX "The Penguins"- what sort of name is that for a sporting team??? :) 2008/5/28 Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Oh yeah, before I forget. > > Moby, what part of "go away" don't you understand? > > http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoom&Site=C4&Date=20080527&Category=ENT04 > &ArtNo=805270349&Ref=AR > > > fh > > PS Honorable mention to the Red Wings who shut out the > Penguins in two Stanley Cup games during the festival. > >
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"The Penguins"- what sort of name is that for a sporting team??? :) 2008/5/28 Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Oh yeah, before I forget. > > Moby, what part of "go away" don't you understand? > > http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoom&Site=C4&Date=20080527&Category=ENT04 > &ArtNo=805270349&Ref=AR > > > fh > > PS Honorable mention to the Red Wings who shut out the > Penguins in two Stanley Cup games during the festival. > >
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It's a little hard to believe this was the ninth year already. The festival has changed a lot, although the core elements are the same. So, some very brief comments . . . In general, I thought the festival itself was significantly less exciting and the afterparties generally better than last year. Give Paxahau credit for really raising the game on staging, sound and lighting. And the show runs close to on time, which is nearly a miracle. On the other hand, the lineup is less and less adventurous. I suppose Paxahau could reply that the box office numbers are the real gauge regardless of what we all think. I saw very few standout performances this year (although left early and didn't see Carl Craig and many told me his set was excellent). To be fair, for the first time ever I missed a full day (Monday), not by design but other things came up. Newcleus jammed on it and had a great time without taking themselves too seriously, and the beats on the waterfront stage were potent. I only saw the last 30 minutes of DBX. I understand Dan himself wasn't all that happy with it but the part I heard was really good. Punisher again wins my hard-techno-set-of-the-fest award. Nothing fancy, she picks good solid tracks and really builds a set and draws in the crowd (and takes what advantage is available in the appalling acoustic nightmare of the garage). As for the afterparties, Derek P killed it at the Works on Friday night and Mike Servito likewise at No Way Back on Saturday, and I loved the Aquanauts (Bileebob, Skurge and Nomadico) at the UR show at Alvins -- technopunk with an attitude and a grin. Oh yeah, before I forget. Moby, what part of "go away" don't you understand? http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoom&Site=C4&Date=20080527&Category=ENT04 &ArtNo=805270349&Ref=AR fh PS Honorable mention to the Red Wings who shut out the Penguins in two Stanley Cup games during the festival.
