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yeah that's not how i read "chicago's take on techno" either. i don't do any chicago clubbing, but i know enough about the sound of chicago (historically) to know that that mix doesn't sound anything like it came from chicago. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Thor Teague wrote: > Yeah which is pretty much what is played at (in my experience) 90% or > so of Chicago shows. > > Either I am astronomically unlucky or Placid & Mr. Glazer don't really > do much Chicago clubbing. Well, I don't really do much either, but > enough to get the point. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Placid wrote: > >> >> Can't really disagree with this not sure how deadmau5 fits into >> chicago's take on techno. Run of the mill super compressed boom tish techno >> by numbers for the Willalobo massive. >> >> very much not for me. >> >> ymmv tho >> >> p > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I certainly didn't mean to kick the beehive with that post. I've known Mani for going on 10 years, and he gave me a link to that mix, and I listened to it, and I didn't like it all, but it reminded me of sets I've heard in Chicago. That's all. And no it's not Detroit Techno. I mentioned it because it's a mix by a guy who is a long time veteran of the Midwest dance music scene, and who knows his music, even if it isn't to your taste Maybe we can move on ;-)
Re: (313) New Mix from Mani Miglani
I misinterpreted it as in it was a mix of chicago techno, as opposed to someone who plays 'techno' out in chicago... ive only been clubbing in chitown once, and that was back in 96 p Thor Teague wrote: Yeah which is pretty much what is played at (in my experience) 90% or so of Chicago shows. Either I am astronomically unlucky or Placid & Mr. Glazer don't really do much Chicago clubbing. Well, I don't really do much either, but enough to get the point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Placid wrote: Can't really disagree with thisnot sure how deadmau5 fits into chicago's take on techno. Run of the mill super compressed boom tish techno by numbers for the Willalobo massive. very much not for me. ymmv tho p -- Playing - 21st March - Disco Nectar - Cardiff - 27th March - UFO w/ The Unabombers - 28th March - Bristol - 4th April - Under_Score w/ Murmur / Bovill Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
Re: (313) New Mix from Mani Miglani
Yeah which is pretty much what is played at (in my experience) 90% or so of Chicago shows. Either I am astronomically unlucky or Placid & Mr. Glazer don't really do much Chicago clubbing. Well, I don't really do much either, but enough to get the point. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Placid wrote: > > Can't really disagree with this not sure how deadmau5 fits into > chicago's take on techno. Run of the mill super compressed boom tish techno > by numbers for the Willalobo massive. > > very much not for me. > > ymmv tho > > p
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Frank Glazer wrote: I don't have the foggiest idea where you came up with calling this mix "the chicago take on techno". That doesn't make any sense at all - none of the music on that mix is from Chicago, and it doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard from Chicago. ??? Can't really disagree with thisnot sure how deadmau5 fits into chicago's take on techno. Run of the mill super compressed boom tish techno by numbers for the Willalobo massive. very much not for me. ymmv tho p -- Playing - 21st March - Disco Nectar - Cardiff - 27th March - UFO w/ The Unabombers - 28th March - Bristol - 4th April - Under_Score w/ Murmur / Bovill Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Vinyl for Sale - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=placid Placid's Gigs and Gigography - http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41658902688 Live on Future-music.co.uk every other Thursday - 8pm - 10pm
Re: (313) New Mix from Mani Miglani
I don't have the foggiest idea where you came up with calling this mix "the chicago take on techno". That doesn't make any sense at all - none of the music on that mix is from Chicago, and it doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard from Chicago. ??? On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:46 PM, kent williams wrote: > Mani Giglani was one of the techno buyers at Gramaphone Records in the > latter half of the 90s, and I'm sure many of you met him in that > capacity, or at parties in the City. He just posted up a new techno > mix -- his first since 2004. Link and track listing at > > http://mmdot.blogspot.com/2009/03/dj-mani-dj-mix-03-13-2009-24-tracks.html > > It isn't Detroit Techno, but it is a great example of the Chicago take > on techno -- dipping into up-tempo R&B and house. Reminds me of > getting lost in Chicago driving around listening to B96 late at night > back in the day... > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Yeah, to be brutally honest and/or play devil's advocate, I'm somewhat in agreement with Michael. I don't utterly dislike it, mind you. Just saying once there was money involved, it got really homogenized. This is true of the live scene too. I'm in no way blaming or faulting Mani, he's delivering what the people want and there's nothing wrong with that IMO. In Detroit, no one ever made any money (not literally, I engage in hyperbole, but you take my drift.) I'll go to smart bar once in a great while, esp. if I know who's playing or have a friend who wants some company. But that, a Moonshine event that my friend used to run, Mamby, and other Chicago based clubs just have this undeniable sameness to them nowadays. I say that with all due respect and like I said most of the time dont _DISLIKE_ the music. My 2c. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM, kent williams wrote: > Gosh Michael, tell us how you really feel! I kind of liked the mix > from the standpoint that it was different than I usually hear, the > difference being accessibility. But I can certainly see this not > being to everyone's taste. > > That Deadmau5 + Kaskade "I Remember" track is my new guilty pleasure. > > Oh well, Mani's on the list again after many years absence, I'm sure > he'll take your feedback in the spirit that was intended -- of > constructive criticism ;-) > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Michael Elliot-Knight > wrote: >> >> Wow - is that the Chicago take on techno? Sounds like Chicago has lost it's >> distinctive sound. I didn't really hear anything that was Chicago R&B at >> all - it sounded more like the crap that passes as "progressive" house. >> That Beyonce remix is crap. Or maybe it's just how it's mixed in. There's >> no emotional build-up to it so the heights that the Beyonce track hits just >> come out of nowhere. Doesn't anybody know how to build emotional mixes and >> tell stories with vocals anymore? I think there's a whole generation of DJs >> that this skill is utterly lost on. Energy and high bpms DO NOT equate >> emotion. I think that Keri Hilson track "Energy" sums up this mix for me >> with the line: "it's taking all my Energy". >> >> sorry Kent - some minimal paint-by-numbers blippy bloppy grabage and "hands >> in the air" prog-house just don't pass my litmus test for good music >> >> Is this what's happening in Chi-town now? It's awful. >> >> MEK >
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Jacob Arnold wrote: > David Smith wrote: >> WBMX ERA is what I think of when I think of chicago, and that was 20 >> years ago :) Chicago is a wonderful place but the sound has always >> been more pop than the Detroit sound, I speculate that it is because >> there is more money to be made off of the "club" scene in Chicago than >> Detroit. > > Well, radio is always going to be more accessible than what is going on in > clubs. Who's to say whether "Music Is the Key" or "Good Life" is more pop? > > The fact is the scene in Chicago used to be a lot bigger (and more > diverse) than the Detroit one, but now it's basically dead. > > Both cities are down to just a handful of die-hard producers. I guess I should clarify. I don't mean there isn't creative work being done. I just mean that it's a lot harder to draw a crowd for underground music than it used to be. J
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David Smith wrote: > WBMX ERA is what I think of when I think of chicago, and that was 20 > years ago :) Chicago is a wonderful place but the sound has always > been more pop than the Detroit sound, I speculate that it is because > there is more money to be made off of the "club" scene in Chicago than > Detroit. Well, radio is always going to be more accessible than what is going on in clubs. Who's to say whether "Music Is the Key" or "Good Life" is more pop? The fact is the scene in Chicago used to be a lot bigger (and more diverse) than the Detroit one, but now it's basically dead. Both cities are down to just a handful of die-hard producers. J
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WBMX ERA is what I think of when I think of chicago, and that was 20 years ago :) Chicago is a wonderful place but the sound has always been more pop than the Detroit sound, I speculate that it is because there is more money to be made off of the "club" scene in Chicago than Detroit. On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:46:06 -0500 kent williams wrote: > Gosh Michael, tell us how you really feel! I kind of liked the mix > from the standpoint that it was different than I usually hear, the > difference being accessibility. But I can certainly see this not > being to everyone's taste. > > That Deadmau5 + Kaskade "I Remember" track is my new guilty pleasure. > > Oh well, Mani's on the list again after many years absence, I'm sure > he'll take your feedback in the spirit that was intended -- of > constructive criticism ;-) > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Michael Elliot-Knight > wrote: > > > > Wow - is that the Chicago take on techno? Sounds like Chicago has > > lost it's distinctive sound. I didn't really hear anything that > > was Chicago R&B at all - it sounded more like the crap that passes > > as "progressive" house. That Beyonce remix is crap. Or maybe it's > > just how it's mixed in. There's no emotional build-up to it so the > > heights that the Beyonce track hits just come out of nowhere. > > Doesn't anybody know how to build emotional mixes and tell stories > > with vocals anymore? I think there's a whole generation of DJs > > that this skill is utterly lost on. Energy and high bpms DO NOT > > equate emotion. I think that Keri Hilson track "Energy" sums up > > this mix for me with the line: "it's taking all my Energy". > > > > sorry Kent - some minimal paint-by-numbers blippy bloppy grabage > > and "hands in the air" prog-house just don't pass my litmus test > > for good music > > > > Is this what's happening in Chi-town now? It's awful. > > > > MEK
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Gosh Michael, tell us how you really feel! I kind of liked the mix from the standpoint that it was different than I usually hear, the difference being accessibility. But I can certainly see this not being to everyone's taste. That Deadmau5 + Kaskade "I Remember" track is my new guilty pleasure. Oh well, Mani's on the list again after many years absence, I'm sure he'll take your feedback in the spirit that was intended -- of constructive criticism ;-) On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Michael Elliot-Knight wrote: > > Wow - is that the Chicago take on techno? Sounds like Chicago has lost it's > distinctive sound. I didn't really hear anything that was Chicago R&B at > all - it sounded more like the crap that passes as "progressive" house. > That Beyonce remix is crap. Or maybe it's just how it's mixed in. There's > no emotional build-up to it so the heights that the Beyonce track hits just > come out of nowhere. Doesn't anybody know how to build emotional mixes and > tell stories with vocals anymore? I think there's a whole generation of DJs > that this skill is utterly lost on. Energy and high bpms DO NOT equate > emotion. I think that Keri Hilson track "Energy" sums up this mix for me > with the line: "it's taking all my Energy". > > sorry Kent - some minimal paint-by-numbers blippy bloppy grabage and "hands > in the air" prog-house just don't pass my litmus test for good music > > Is this what's happening in Chi-town now? It's awful. > > MEK
(313) New Mix from Mani Miglani
Mani Giglani was one of the techno buyers at Gramaphone Records in the latter half of the 90s, and I'm sure many of you met him in that capacity, or at parties in the City. He just posted up a new techno mix -- his first since 2004. Link and track listing at http://mmdot.blogspot.com/2009/03/dj-mani-dj-mix-03-13-2009-24-tracks.html It isn't Detroit Techno, but it is a great example of the Chicago take on techno -- dipping into up-tempo R&B and house. Reminds me of getting lost in Chicago driving around listening to B96 late at night back in the day...
