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My four year old and two year old came in my studio the other day as I was working on a track, and told me to turn it up as loud as it can go. : Imagine the joy I felt upon hearing this ! :))) So far my boy's like all forms of music.. HB www.vmax.net
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Our very own Alex Bond (well his partner Rebecca) reports that his 4 month old daughter Millie likes _any_ music currently. Full update when that changes :) robin...
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One new dad I talk to every so often has reported good results from the Burial Mix back catalog. On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:33, Andrew Duke wrote: disco and electro and techno; can't wait to see the reaction to Drexciya, Terrence Dixon, Shake, Atkins, et al. Can you tell I'm excited? ;) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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kent williams wrote: Are you talking about the VH1-ing of Techno? I'm a Dad, and there are many parents on this list. There's nothing worse, in my opinion, than musicians who, at a certain point, cede the cutting edge to the youngsters, and settle for reinforcing the nostalgia of the people who grew up listening to them. Kevin Saunderson is 42, Derrick May is 43, Juan Atkins is 44, Carl Craig is 37, Richie Hawtin is 36. Techno, as a genre, goes back 25 years. Is it still relevant? I like to think so. Are new records by the 'youth of today' better than stuff recorded by the old masters of the form, or somehow more relevant? Some of them are great, but they aren't the whole story. My son Sean, who is graduating from college next May, heard techno all the time while strapped in a carseat, riding to preschool. To him, all techno is Dad Techno. But I don't listen to techno to wax nostalgic about parties I went to 15 years ago, I don't listen to it to try and retain some shred of my cool. I listen because it speaks to my condition. If anything I'm probably the least cool sort of person on the planet -- the older guy at the rave, jacking like he think he still cool. At least I'm not the old guy at the rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age. That guy needs to die. If anything, the older techno fans have one up on all the kids -- we love the music, but it's not a fashion accessory or an identity we're trying on. We caught the disease a long time ago, and we're still sick. Great points, Kent. I'm 37 and my first child will be born soon (my wife's at 18 weeks in now; just went to our first prenatal class last week). My parents had an extremely small record collection when I grew up--Barbra Streisand and Abba (not a fan these days) vs Fleetwood Mac and Supertramp (*am* a fan these days) were literally pretty much the gist of what they had. (It's funny, cos I don't own a single Fleetwood Mac or Supertramp record, but due to hearing their entire discography relentlessly growing up, I don't *need* any of the physical products--I can pretty much remember every song from them in my head instantly due to the constant exposure). So...I spent my childhood knowing there *had to* be more out there musically, and didn't get an "aha" moment until Human League (Don't You Want Me) and Depeche Mode (People Are People) made it onto commercial radio (all I had access to growing up) and later hearing Brave New Waves on CBC and going to "the big city" (I grew up in a village of 500 people--so no nearby record store) and seeing records in the store like Skinny Puppy, Foetus (pardon the pun, I spose), and others of that era. So... for me, I *do not* want that to happen to my child (ie having literally just 4 artists on constant rotation). So I've been going through my records and picking out things to start with (Stevie Wonder ranks at the top at this point, plus Commodores, Bobby Womack, Bill Withers, George Benson, EW&F, Isaac Hayes, Minnie Riperton, Sly Stone, etc) before moving on to the rock (Led Zep, Queen, Def Lep, Sabbath, et al), disco and electro and techno; can't wait to see the reaction to Drexciya, Terrence Dixon, Shake, Atkins, et al. Can you tell I'm excited? ;) I can tell ya one thing: my child is going to know what a turntable is and how to use it (I've got students in my sound design/music production class who've never even seen one in use! Geez, what's happening to this world?:)) Andrew -- sound design/music production course: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Chain Reaction downloadable samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 artist features & column: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
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Don't worry francis! It wasn't really a girl! On Oct 30, 2006, at 11:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .just when I thought we'd managed to get by for a while with no gratuitous flaming. What have I ever done to you Kent? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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.just when I thought we'd managed to get by for a while with no gratuitous flaming. What have I ever done to you Kent? > -Original Message- > From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 October 2006 16:29 > > At least I'm not the old guy at the > rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age. > That guy needs to die
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There was a clear delineation at ILT between the relentless drivel pounded by Euro 3 deck jocks and the more melodic, older stuff that was mostly coming from records produced over 15 years ago. Given that some of the people attending the event were 16 & 17, the fact that most of those I was with were old enough to be their fathers (32 and upwards) it has reached the point in the last few years where we have reached this particular point. It's not so much the VH1-ing of Techno as such. In Britain the "Northern Soul" movement has many comparisons with Techno, especially from Detroit. Romantic nostalgia, small clubs playing Detroit records only (this will happen in the future I reckon), fantastically expensive records, middle-aged men talking about how it was better in their day etc etc. This isn't a criticism at all, it's just an observation. It would be impossible for any musical movement to sustain such kinetic energy over a certain period of time - the fact that Detroit Techno does 25 years on to a certain extent is a credit to the originators. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2006 16:29 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno Are you talking about the VH1-ing of Techno? I'm a Dad, and there are many parents on this list. There's nothing worse, in my opinion, than musicians who, at a certain point, cede the cutting edge to the youngsters, and settle for reinforcing the nostalgia of the people who grew up listening to them. Kevin Saunderson is 42, Derrick May is 43, Juan Atkins is 44, Carl Craig is 37, Richie Hawtin is 36. Techno, as a genre, goes back 25 years. Is it still relevant? I like to think so. Are new records by the 'youth of today' better than stuff recorded by the old masters of the form, or somehow more relevant? Some of them are great, but they aren't the whole story. My son Sean, who is graduating from college next May, heard techno all the time while strapped in a carseat, riding to preschool. To him, all techno is Dad Techno. But I don't listen to techno to wax nostalgic about parties I went to 15 years ago, I don't listen to it to try and retain some shred of my cool. I listen because it speaks to my condition. If anything I'm probably the least cool sort of person on the planet -- the older guy at the rave, jacking like he think he still cool. At least I'm not the old guy at the rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age. That guy needs to die. If anything, the older techno fans have one up on all the kids -- we love the music, but it's not a fashion accessory or an identity we're trying on. We caught the disease a long time ago, and we're still sick. On 10/30/06, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "Kings of Techno" thing they did together at ILT spawned a new phrase... > > "Dad Techno". > Keep informed throughout the day with the Telegraph's breaking news, commentary and opinion on www.telegraph.co.uk This e-mail is from Telegraph Group Limited - 1 Canada Square, Canary Wharf, London E14 5DT, registered in England under No 451593 ("we", "our" or us"). This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither we nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or those of our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the author. Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our email systems.
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Are you talking about the VH1-ing of Techno? I'm a Dad, and there are many parents on this list. There's nothing worse, in my opinion, than musicians who, at a certain point, cede the cutting edge to the youngsters, and settle for reinforcing the nostalgia of the people who grew up listening to them. Kevin Saunderson is 42, Derrick May is 43, Juan Atkins is 44, Carl Craig is 37, Richie Hawtin is 36. Techno, as a genre, goes back 25 years. Is it still relevant? I like to think so. Are new records by the 'youth of today' better than stuff recorded by the old masters of the form, or somehow more relevant? Some of them are great, but they aren't the whole story. My son Sean, who is graduating from college next May, heard techno all the time while strapped in a carseat, riding to preschool. To him, all techno is Dad Techno. But I don't listen to techno to wax nostalgic about parties I went to 15 years ago, I don't listen to it to try and retain some shred of my cool. I listen because it speaks to my condition. If anything I'm probably the least cool sort of person on the planet -- the older guy at the rave, jacking like he think he still cool. At least I'm not the old guy at the rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age. That guy needs to die. If anything, the older techno fans have one up on all the kids -- we love the music, but it's not a fashion accessory or an identity we're trying on. We caught the disease a long time ago, and we're still sick. On 10/30/06, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The "Kings of Techno" thing they did together at ILT spawned a new phrase... "Dad Techno".
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The "Kings of Techno" thing they did together at ILT spawned a new phrase... "Dad Techno". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2006 10:20 To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Re: kings of techno I know this double CD has been posted about before on here and there was a debate about what tracks should be on there and whether Garnier was the best guy to be involved in the compilation of it. However my question is a different one - it's found it's was to my local shop http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/ I think when someone (Marsel?) originally put up the track list I thought it was one CD from Garnier and one from c2. However in the description on Piccadilly's site it says: "The mix CD has Carl and Laurent talking over the tracks in places and is even interspersed at times with field recordings and interviews from key musical innovators and musicians" so I'm guessing both are involved in both CDs, one's unmixed and the other as above - so how is this one with interviews etc if anyone's heard it? Sounds like it could be good if done well (or the reverse!). Keep informed throughout the day with the Telegraph's breaking news, commentary and opinion on www.telegraph.co.uk This e-mail is from Telegraph Group Limited - 1 Canada Square, Canary Wharf, London E14 5DT, registered in England under No 451593 ("we", "our" or us"). This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither we nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or those of our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the author. Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our email systems.
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I know this double CD has been posted about before on here and there was a debate about what tracks should be on there and whether Garnier was the best guy to be involved in the compilation of it. However my question is a different one - it's found it's was to my local shop http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/ I think when someone (Marsel?) originally put up the track list I thought it was one CD from Garnier and one from c2. However in the description on Piccadilly's site it says: "The mix CD has Carl and Laurent talking over the tracks in places and is even interspersed at times with field recordings and interviews from key musical innovators and musicians" so I'm guessing both are involved in both CDs, one's unmixed and the other as above - so how is this one with interviews etc if anyone's heard it? Sounds like it could be good if done well (or the reverse!).
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On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:07:54AM +0100, Martin Dust wrote: > > > > > >Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that > >Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the > >quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of > >tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other > >sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure > >commercialism/opportunism. > > > > Aren't the tracks reworkings with jazz musicians and as such not > available anywhere else in that form. No, it cointains only two live tracks (among a total of 23) which were recorded with jazz musicians. These are actually the only two previously unreleased tracks. G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
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Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure commercialism/opportunism. Aren't the tracks reworkings with jazz musicians and as such not available anywhere else in that form. Martin
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Dale Lawrence wrote: > > I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier > were all riding bumper cars together--with much > 'bloodthirstiness'. That was definitely surreal. I was there as well, together with Stefan Robbers. Great fun. My thoughts were "At least once I can bump these guys as much as their music bumps me!!!" IIRC, Ferrenc (I-F) was DJing outside at the same time... G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:48:48AM -0500, kent williams wrote: > Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a > huge fan of detroit techno. Knowing Garnier personaly for a while (since 1995 when booked him to DJ around here - funded with own money and health! - Organized a couple of tours here for him since then, visited his place in Paris, etc...), I am aware of his interest in Detroit. > Bone has great stories about Laurent > DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. Agreed. Similar stories when he was around here. IMHO, he is a great DJ, great technique, but not that great taste. > And as > for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? Never tried to judge "who's 'Detroit' enough". My point is: this "History of Detroit" CD and his Retrospective CD sound like a commercial opportunity, without much musical value (not discussing the tracks themselves, they can be found elsewhere). It is only a personal opinion I would like to share (maybe a bit overemphasized last post, sorry!). > I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, > any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you Hey! Am I the only one feeling some prejudice here? Why should the place someone is from matter??? Dont understand why you are mentioning this fact. > like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his > hearts in the right place. I disagree. Peace. G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader
now that's an idea "ladies and gentlemen, 313Soft is proud to announce a brand NEW rewards system based on.." - Original Message - From: "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:31 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader If you tell them it's new, will they stop using it? On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:26, fab. wrote: joe, i think it's that new one with the semantic inference engine - you get more points if your posts are of the "hater" or the "30- something reactionary" type. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 04/09/2006
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If you tell them it's new, will they stop using it? On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:26, fab. wrote: joe, i think it's that new one with the semantic inference engine - you get more points if your posts are of the "hater" or the "30- something reactionary" type. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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joe, i think it's that new one with the semantic inference engine - you get more points if your posts are of the "hater" or the "30-something reactionary" type. ciao - Original Message - From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader did a bunch of you stumble across some web site that is paying you per character to post to 313? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 04/09/2006
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If some of you are in Paris this thursday (September 7th), he will perform one of his 'all night long' set for the re-opening of the Rex Club : http://www.rexclub.com/ http://www.fcom.fr/ez/index.php/en/dates/(artiste_selection)/Laurent%20Garnier There are other interesting gigs the next days too. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: "Dale Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno > > I remember Laurent performed at a party here in the wrong > neighborhood where some shadiness went down. A small crew of 'agents > of darkness' strolled in with their concealed weapons. Some gunfire > took place and maybe someone actually got shot. Fuzzy memories where > I think someone was wounded, but nothing serious. > > I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier > were all riding bumper cars together--with much > 'bloodthirstiness'. That was definitely surreal. > > At 10:48 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote: > >Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a > >huge fan of detroit techno. Bone has great stories about Laurent > >DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. And as > >for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? > > > >I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, > >any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you > >like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his > >hearts in the right place. Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one > >in the room is having more fun than him. > > > > > >On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> > rapster / bbe > >> > > >> > Tracklisting: > >> > CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER > >> > 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? > >> > 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? > >> > 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? > >> > 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? > >> > 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? > >> > 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? > >> > 7- BFC ?Galaxy? > >> > 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? > >> > 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? > >> > 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? > >> > >> > >>Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of > >>puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are > >>Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May > >>inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which > >>then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what > >>does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not > >>represent Detroit musical heritage. > > >
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did a bunch of you stumble across some web site that is paying you per character to post to 313?
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I know almost nothing about hystory of detroit techno but I would trust Garnier, because of his X-Mix set on Studio !k7 (check de video edition !!) back in 1994. what a great set !! the carl craigs relativity track, on that context, is one of the most beautyfull moments of techno to me. From: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:48:48 -0500 Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a huge fan of detroit techno. Bone has great stories about Laurent DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. And as for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his hearts in the right place. Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one in the room is having more fun than him. On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > rapster / bbe > > Tracklisting: > CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER > 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? > 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? > 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? > 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? > 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? > 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? > 7- BFC ?Galaxy? > 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? > 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? > 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not represent Detroit musical heritage. _ Baixe agora o Windows Live Messenger! http://get.live.com/messenger/overview
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I remember Laurent performed at a party here in the wrong neighborhood where some shadiness went down. A small crew of 'agents of darkness' strolled in with their concealed weapons. Some gunfire took place and maybe someone actually got shot. Fuzzy memories where I think someone was wounded, but nothing serious. I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier were all riding bumper cars together--with much 'bloodthirstiness'. That was definitely surreal. At 10:48 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote: Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a huge fan of detroit techno. Bone has great stories about Laurent DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. And as for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his hearts in the right place. Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one in the room is having more fun than him. On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > rapster / bbe > > Tracklisting: > CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER > 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? > 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? > 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? > 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? > 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? > 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? > 7- BFC ?Galaxy? > 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? > 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? > 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not represent Detroit musical heritage.
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Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a huge fan of detroit techno. Bone has great stories about Laurent DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. And as for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his hearts in the right place. Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one in the room is having more fun than him. On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > rapster / bbe > > Tracklisting: > CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER > 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? > 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? > 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? > 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? > 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? > 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? > 7- BFC ?Galaxy? > 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? > 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? > 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not represent Detroit musical heritage.
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On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > rapster / bbe > > Tracklisting: > CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER > 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? > 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? > 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? > 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? > 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? > 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? > 7- BFC ?Galaxy? > 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? > 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? > 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not represent Detroit musical heritage. Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure commercialism/opportunism. Beware, save your money and your ears! G -- http://www.dinamicas.art.br