Re: (313) babies/children & techno was Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-31 Thread HB
My four year old and two year old came in my studio the other day as  
I was working on a track, and told me to turn it up as loud as it can  
go.  :


Imagine the joy I felt upon hearing this ! :)))

So far my boy's like all forms of music..

HB
www.vmax.net


Re: (313) babies/children & techno was Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-31 Thread robin


Our very own Alex Bond (well his partner Rebecca) reports that his 4  
month old daughter Millie likes _any_ music currently.


Full update when that changes :)

robin...




Re: (313) babies/children & techno was Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-31 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
One new dad I talk to every so often has reported good results from  
the Burial Mix back catalog.


On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:33, Andrew Duke wrote:


disco and electro and techno; can't wait
to see the reaction to Drexciya, Terrence Dixon, Shake, Atkins, et al.
Can you tell I'm excited? ;)


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(313) babies/children & techno was Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-31 Thread Andrew Duke

kent williams wrote:

Are you talking about the VH1-ing of Techno?

I'm a Dad, and there are many parents on this list. There's nothing
worse, in my opinion, than musicians who, at a certain point, cede the
cutting edge to the youngsters, and settle for reinforcing the
nostalgia of the people who grew up listening to them.

Kevin Saunderson is 42, Derrick May is 43, Juan Atkins is 44, Carl
Craig is 37, Richie Hawtin is 36.  Techno, as a genre, goes back 25
years.  Is it still relevant? I like to think so.  Are new records by
the 'youth of today' better than stuff recorded by the old masters of
the form, or somehow more relevant?  Some of them are great, but they
aren't the whole story.

My son Sean, who is graduating from college next May, heard techno all
the time while strapped in a carseat, riding to preschool.  To him,
all techno is Dad Techno.

But I don't listen to techno to wax nostalgic about parties I went to
15 years ago, I don't listen to it to try and retain some shred of my
cool. I listen because it speaks to my condition.  If anything I'm
probably the least cool sort of person on the planet -- the older guy
at the rave, jacking like he think he still cool.  At least I'm not
the old guy at the rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age.
That guy needs to die.

If anything, the older techno fans have one up on all the kids -- we
love the music, but it's not a fashion accessory or an identity we're
trying on.  We caught the disease a long time ago, and we're still
sick.

Great points, Kent.
I'm 37 and my first child will be born soon (my wife's at 18 weeks in
now; just went to our first prenatal class last week).  My parents
had an extremely small record collection when I grew up--Barbra
Streisand and Abba (not a fan these days) vs Fleetwood Mac
and Supertramp (*am* a fan these days) were literally pretty much
the gist of what they had.  (It's funny, cos I don't own a single
Fleetwood Mac or Supertramp record, but due to hearing their
entire discography relentlessly growing up, I don't *need* any
of the physical products--I can pretty much remember every song
from them in my head instantly due to the constant exposure).
So...I spent my childhood knowing there *had to*
be more out there musically, and didn't get an "aha" moment until
Human League (Don't You Want Me) and Depeche Mode (People
Are People) made it onto commercial radio (all I had access to
growing up) and later hearing Brave New Waves on CBC and
going to "the big city" (I grew up in a village of 500 people--so no
nearby record store) and seeing records in the store like Skinny
Puppy, Foetus (pardon the pun, I spose), and others of that era.

So... for me, I *do not* want that to happen to my child (ie having
literally just 4 artists on constant rotation).  So I've been going through
my records and picking out things to start with (Stevie Wonder ranks
at the top at this point, plus Commodores, Bobby Womack, Bill Withers,
George Benson, EW&F, Isaac Hayes, Minnie Riperton, Sly Stone,
etc) before moving on to the rock (Led Zep, Queen, Def Lep, Sabbath,
et al), disco and electro and techno; can't wait
to see the reaction to Drexciya, Terrence Dixon, Shake, Atkins, et al.
Can you tell I'm excited? ;)
I can tell ya one thing:  my child is going to know what a turntable is
and how to use it (I've got students in my sound design/music production
class who've never even seen one in use! Geez, what's happening to this 
world?:))


Andrew

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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-30 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

Don't worry francis! It wasn't really a girl!

On Oct 30, 2006, at 11:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.just when I thought we'd managed to get by for a while  
with no gratuitous flaming.

What have I ever done to you Kent?


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FW: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.just when I thought we'd managed to get by for a while with no 
gratuitous flaming.
What have I ever done to you Kent?

> -Original Message-
> From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 30 October 2006 16:29
>
> At least I'm not the old guy at the 
> rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age.
> That guy needs to die



RE: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-30 Thread Toby Frith
There was a clear delineation at ILT between the relentless drivel pounded by 
Euro 3 deck jocks and the more melodic, older stuff that was mostly coming from 
records produced over 15 years ago. Given that some of the people attending the 
event were 16 & 17, the fact that most of those I was with were old enough to 
be their fathers (32 and upwards) it has reached the point in the last few 
years where we have reached this particular point. 

It's not so much the VH1-ing of Techno as such. In Britain the "Northern Soul" 
movement has many comparisons with Techno, especially from Detroit. Romantic 
nostalgia, small clubs playing Detroit records only (this will happen in the 
future I reckon), fantastically expensive records, middle-aged men talking 
about how it was better in their day etc etc. This isn't a criticism at all, 
it's just an observation. It would be impossible for any musical movement to 
sustain such kinetic energy over a certain period of time - the fact that 
Detroit Techno does 25 years on to a certain extent is a credit to the 
originators.




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Sent: 30 October 2006 16:29
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno


Are you talking about the VH1-ing of Techno?

I'm a Dad, and there are many parents on this list. There's nothing
worse, in my opinion, than musicians who, at a certain point, cede the
cutting edge to the youngsters, and settle for reinforcing the
nostalgia of the people who grew up listening to them.

Kevin Saunderson is 42, Derrick May is 43, Juan Atkins is 44, Carl
Craig is 37, Richie Hawtin is 36.  Techno, as a genre, goes back 25
years.  Is it still relevant? I like to think so.  Are new records by
the 'youth of today' better than stuff recorded by the old masters of
the form, or somehow more relevant?  Some of them are great, but they
aren't the whole story.

My son Sean, who is graduating from college next May, heard techno all
the time while strapped in a carseat, riding to preschool.  To him,
all techno is Dad Techno.

But I don't listen to techno to wax nostalgic about parties I went to
15 years ago, I don't listen to it to try and retain some shred of my
cool. I listen because it speaks to my condition.  If anything I'm
probably the least cool sort of person on the planet -- the older guy
at the rave, jacking like he think he still cool.  At least I'm not
the old guy at the rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age.
That guy needs to die.

If anything, the older techno fans have one up on all the kids -- we
love the music, but it's not a fashion accessory or an identity we're
trying on.  We caught the disease a long time ago, and we're still
sick.

On 10/30/06, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The "Kings of Techno" thing they did together at ILT spawned a new phrase...
>
> "Dad Techno".
>



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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-30 Thread kent williams

Are you talking about the VH1-ing of Techno?

I'm a Dad, and there are many parents on this list. There's nothing
worse, in my opinion, than musicians who, at a certain point, cede the
cutting edge to the youngsters, and settle for reinforcing the
nostalgia of the people who grew up listening to them.

Kevin Saunderson is 42, Derrick May is 43, Juan Atkins is 44, Carl
Craig is 37, Richie Hawtin is 36.  Techno, as a genre, goes back 25
years.  Is it still relevant? I like to think so.  Are new records by
the 'youth of today' better than stuff recorded by the old masters of
the form, or somehow more relevant?  Some of them are great, but they
aren't the whole story.

My son Sean, who is graduating from college next May, heard techno all
the time while strapped in a carseat, riding to preschool.  To him,
all techno is Dad Techno.

But I don't listen to techno to wax nostalgic about parties I went to
15 years ago, I don't listen to it to try and retain some shred of my
cool. I listen because it speaks to my condition.  If anything I'm
probably the least cool sort of person on the planet -- the older guy
at the rave, jacking like he think he still cool.  At least I'm not
the old guy at the rave, trying to pull a girl less than half my age.
That guy needs to die.

If anything, the older techno fans have one up on all the kids -- we
love the music, but it's not a fashion accessory or an identity we're
trying on.  We caught the disease a long time ago, and we're still
sick.

On 10/30/06, Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The "Kings of Techno" thing they did together at ILT spawned a new phrase...

"Dad Techno".



RE: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-30 Thread Toby Frith
The "Kings of Techno" thing they did together at ILT spawned a new phrase... 

"Dad Techno".




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Subject: RE: (313) Re: kings of techno


I know this double CD has been posted about before on here and there was a 
debate about what tracks should be on there and whether
Garnier was the best guy to be involved in the compilation of it.
However my question is a different one - it's found it's was to my local shop 
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/  I think when
someone (Marsel?) originally put up the track list I thought it was one CD from 
Garnier and one from c2.  However in the description
on Piccadilly's site it says:

"The mix CD has Carl and Laurent talking over the tracks in places and is even 
interspersed at times with field recordings and
interviews from key musical innovators and musicians"

so I'm guessing both are involved in both CDs, one's unmixed and the other as 
above - so how is this one with interviews etc if
anyone's heard it?  Sounds like it could be good if done well (or the reverse!).



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RE: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know this double CD has been posted about before on here and there was a 
debate about what tracks should be on there and whether
Garnier was the best guy to be involved in the compilation of it.
However my question is a different one - it's found it's was to my local shop 
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/  I think when
someone (Marsel?) originally put up the track list I thought it was one CD from 
Garnier and one from c2.  However in the description
on Piccadilly's site it says:

"The mix CD has Carl and Laurent talking over the tracks in places and is even 
interspersed at times with field recordings and
interviews from key musical innovators and musicians"

so I'm guessing both are involved in both CDs, one's unmixed and the other as 
above - so how is this one with interviews etc if
anyone's heard it?  Sounds like it could be good if done well (or the reverse!).



Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-06 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:07:54AM +0100, Martin Dust wrote:
> >
> >
> >Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that
> >Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the
> >quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of
> >tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other
> >sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure
> >commercialism/opportunism.
> >
> 
> Aren't the tracks reworkings with jazz musicians and as such not 
> available anywhere else in that form.

No, it cointains only two live tracks (among a total of 23) which were
recorded with jazz musicians. These are actually the only two previously
unreleased tracks. 

G

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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-06 Thread Martin Dust



Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that
Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the
quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of
tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other
sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure
commercialism/opportunism.



Aren't the tracks reworkings with jazz musicians and as such not 
available anywhere else in that form.


Martin



Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-06 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Dale Lawrence wrote:
> 
> I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier 
> were all riding bumper cars together--with much 
> 'bloodthirstiness'.  That was definitely surreal.


I was there as well, together with Stefan Robbers. Great fun. My
thoughts were "At least once I can bump these guys as much as their 
music bumps me!!!" 

IIRC, Ferrenc (I-F) was DJing outside at the same time...

G

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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-06 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:48:48AM -0500, kent williams wrote:
> Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a
> huge fan of detroit techno.  


Knowing Garnier personaly for a while (since 1995 when booked him to 
DJ around here - funded with own money and health! - Organized a couple 
of tours here for him since then, visited his place in Paris, etc...), 
I am aware of his interest in Detroit.


> Bone has great stories about Laurent
> DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then.  


Agreed. Similar stories when he was around here.
IMHO, he is a great DJ, great technique, but not that great taste.


> And as
> for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them?


Never tried to judge "who's 'Detroit' enough". My point is: this 
"History of Detroit" CD and his Retrospective CD sound like a commercial
opportunity, without much musical value (not discussing the tracks
themselves, they can be found elsewhere). It is only a personal opinion
I would like to share (maybe a bit overemphasized last post, sorry!). 


> I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough,
> any more than, say, a guy from Brazil.  I do know that whether you


Hey! Am I the only one feeling some prejudice here? Why should the place
someone is from matter??? Dont understand why you are mentioning this
fact.


> like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his
> hearts in the right place.  


I disagree.

Peace.

G

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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader

2006-09-05 Thread fab.

now that's an idea

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If you tell them it's new, will they stop using it?

On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:26, fab. wrote:
joe, i think it's that new one with the semantic inference engine -  you 
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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader

2006-09-05 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

If you tell them it's new, will they stop using it?

On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:26, fab. wrote:
joe, i think it's that new one with the semantic inference engine -  
you get more points if your posts are of the "hater" or the "30- 
something reactionary" type.

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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader

2006-09-05 Thread fab.
joe, i think it's that new one with the semantic inference engine - you get 
more points if your posts are of the "hater" or the "30-something 
reactionary" type.


ciao

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did a bunch of you stumble across some web site that is paying you per 
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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-05 Thread KiDD*e
If some of you are in Paris this thursday (September 7th), he will perform
one of his 'all night long' set for the re-opening of the Rex Club :
http://www.rexclub.com/
http://www.fcom.fr/ez/index.php/en/dates/(artiste_selection)/Laurent%20Garnier
There are other interesting gigs the next days too.

- KiDDy.


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To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno


>
> I remember Laurent performed at a party here in the wrong
> neighborhood where some shadiness went down. A small crew of 'agents
> of darkness' strolled in with their concealed weapons. Some gunfire
> took place and maybe someone actually got shot.  Fuzzy memories where
> I think someone was wounded, but nothing serious.
>
> I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier
> were all riding bumper cars together--with much
> 'bloodthirstiness'.  That was definitely surreal.
>
> At 10:48 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:
> >Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a
> >huge fan of detroit techno.  Bone has great stories about Laurent
> >DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then.  And as
> >for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them?
> >
> >I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough,
> >any more than, say, a guy from Brazil.  I do know that whether you
> >like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his
> >hearts in the right place.  Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one
> >in the room is having more fun than him.
> >
> >
> >On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >
> >> > rapster / bbe
> >> >
> >> > Tracklisting:
> >> > CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER
> >> > 1- The Stooges ?No Fun?
> >> > 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady?
> >> > 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man?
> >> > 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce?
> >> > 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words?
> >> > 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia?
> >> > 7- BFC ?Galaxy?
> >> > 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo?
> >> > 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up?
> >> > 10- Dabrye ?Game Over?
> >>
> >>
> >>Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of
> >>puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are
> >>Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May
> >>inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which
> >>then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what
> >>does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not
> >>represent Detroit musical heritage.
>
>
>




Re: (313) Re: kings of techno/laptops v analog, cat v dog, acid v base, luke v vader

2006-09-05 Thread /0
did a bunch of you stumble across some web site that is paying you per 
character to post to 313?




Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-05 Thread henrique casanova


I know almost nothing about hystory of detroit techno but I would trust 
Garnier, because of his X-Mix set on Studio !k7 (check de video edition !!) 
back in 1994. what a great set !! the carl craigs relativity track, on that 
context, is one of the most beautyfull moments of techno to me.





From: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 09:48:48 -0500

Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a
huge fan of detroit techno.  Bone has great stories about Laurent
DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then.  And as
for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them?

I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough,
any more than, say, a guy from Brazil.  I do know that whether you
like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his
hearts in the right place.  Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one
in the room is having more fun than him.


On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> rapster / bbe
>
> Tracklisting:
> CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER
> 1- The Stooges ?No Fun?
> 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady?
> 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man?
> 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce?
> 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words?
> 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia?
> 7- BFC ?Galaxy?
> 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo?
> 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up?
> 10- Dabrye ?Game Over?


Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of
puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are
Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May
inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which
then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what
does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not
represent Detroit musical heritage.



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Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-05 Thread Dale Lawrence


I remember Laurent performed at a party here in the wrong 
neighborhood where some shadiness went down. A small crew of 'agents 
of darkness' strolled in with their concealed weapons. Some gunfire 
took place and maybe someone actually got shot.  Fuzzy memories where 
I think someone was wounded, but nothing serious.


I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier 
were all riding bumper cars together--with much 
'bloodthirstiness'.  That was definitely surreal.


At 10:48 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a
huge fan of detroit techno.  Bone has great stories about Laurent
DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then.  And as
for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them?

I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough,
any more than, say, a guy from Brazil.  I do know that whether you
like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his
hearts in the right place.  Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one
in the room is having more fun than him.


On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> rapster / bbe
>
> Tracklisting:
> CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER
> 1- The Stooges ?No Fun?
> 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady?
> 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man?
> 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce?
> 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words?
> 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia?
> 7- BFC ?Galaxy?
> 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo?
> 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up?
> 10- Dabrye ?Game Over?


Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of
puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are
Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May
inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which
then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what
does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not
represent Detroit musical heritage.




Re: (313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-05 Thread kent williams

Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a
huge fan of detroit techno.  Bone has great stories about Laurent
DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then.  And as
for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them?

I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough,
any more than, say, a guy from Brazil.  I do know that whether you
like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his
hearts in the right place.  Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one
in the room is having more fun than him.


On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> rapster / bbe
>
> Tracklisting:
> CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER
> 1- The Stooges ?No Fun?
> 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady?
> 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man?
> 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce?
> 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words?
> 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia?
> 7- BFC ?Galaxy?
> 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo?
> 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up?
> 10- Dabrye ?Game Over?


Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of
puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are
Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May
inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which
then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what
does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not
represent Detroit musical heritage.



(313) Re: kings of techno

2006-09-05 Thread Guilherme Menegon Arantes
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> rapster / bbe
> 
> Tracklisting:
> CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER
> 1- The Stooges ?No Fun?
> 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady?
> 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man?
> 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce?
> 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words?
> 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia?
> 7- BFC ?Galaxy?
> 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo?
> 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up?
> 10- Dabrye ?Game Over?


Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a "History of Detroit" which kind of
puzzles me: If it is a "History of Detroit" Techno, then what are 
Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May
inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical "History of Detroit" (which 
then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what
does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not 
represent Detroit musical heritage.

Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that 
Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the 
quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of 
tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other 
sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure
commercialism/opportunism.

Beware, save your money and your ears!

G

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