Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
Ummm... why are you always such a troll? On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the best part is that i find this stuff technically fascinating, but > > artistically bankrupt. > > > > tom > > thats because you're not an artist. > > >
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First thing I said when I saw it was, "why not play it right the first > place" (I know that not the complete point) but I agree with you here Tom. it's just like auto-tune, but for instrumentalists. it makes playing music a gigantic joke. but since im not an artist i cant have any opinion on that. tom
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think that guy can wear his beard with pride, looks useful but there's no way it will be able to split complex sounds. i disagree, ive been doing something similar in my DSP class where we take a DFT of a signal and then search it for the high points (basically, the individual tones) and then shape a bandpass filter that will take out only the bit around those frequencies. it might be difficult to do it with the precision to make each sound still sound good standing alone, but i would guess that someone with a beard like that and a bunch more years experience with DSP should be able to handle it. what seems like it would be really hard is the bit that analyzes and names the chord and then will replay it in any other key or scale or mode. that sh*t is pretty bananas. Totally, that beard is good, but it aint that good yet ;) I'd love to see what it could do on something complex. >>the best part is that i find this stuff technically fascinating, but artistically bankrupt. First thing I said when I saw it was, "why not play it right the first place" (I know that not the complete point) but I agree with you here Tom. m m
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
but i would guess that someone with a beard like that ... It's ALL in the beard. The software is just a trompe l'oeil. I can simulate bird calls and produce uncomplicated melodies on household appliances with mine, but it's just a shade beyond scruff. the best part is that i find this stuff technically fascinating, but artistically bankrupt. The hands of the artist will determine the value of the tool. And the beard. jeff
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
- Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing the best part is that i find this stuff technically fascinating, but artistically bankrupt. tom thats because you're not an artist.
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it might be > difficult to do it with the precision to make each sound still sound > good standing alone thinking about this a little more, what would make this challenging is taking out not only the fundamental frequency but each of the most important harmonics as well. for each note, that could get difficult. but still definitely doable. tom
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that guy can wear his beard with pride, looks useful but there's > no way it will be able to split complex sounds. i disagree, ive been doing something similar in my DSP class where we take a DFT of a signal and then search it for the high points (basically, the individual tones) and then shape a bandpass filter that will take out only the bit around those frequencies. it might be difficult to do it with the precision to make each sound still sound good standing alone, but i would guess that someone with a beard like that and a bunch more years experience with DSP should be able to handle it. what seems like it would be really hard is the bit that analyzes and names the chord and then will replay it in any other key or scale or mode. that sh*t is pretty bananas. the best part is that i find this stuff technically fascinating, but artistically bankrupt. tom
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
You'd be amazed at what that beard can do. MEK Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/17/2008 04:15:31 PM: > I think that guy can wear his beard with pride, looks useful but there's > no way it will be able to split complex sounds. > > m >
RE: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
> And by and large, it has f*ck all to do with Detroit Techno. Why not? It looks like an interesting piece of technology related to music production. Do all mails have to have direct Detroit relevance these days? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 17/03/2008 10:48
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And by and large, it has f*ck all to do with Detroit Techno. Gold Leader: They're coming in! Three marks at 2-10! [Gold Two is slain by Darth Vader and his wingmen; Gold Leader starts to panic] Gold Leader: It's no good, I can't maneuver! Gold Five: Stay on topic. Gold Leader: *We're too close!* Gold Five: Stay on topic! -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
I think that guy can wear his beard with pride, looks useful but there's no way it will be able to split complex sounds. m
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
Like simple pitch correction, it's just a crutch for the talentless until someone starts misusing it. Which is where techno comes in. The rhetoric may be futuristic, but when it comes down to it, techno was constructed with technology left around after it went out of fashion in the mainstream. As for Celemony Melodyne -- so far all the software they've done has been very well done. Antares Autotune was the pioneer, Melodyne finally got it right. It's a blast to play around with. The company has a reputation for delivering what they promise. I'm a little skeptical about the claims for sound quality. It might pass muster in a full mix, but any time you muck around with recorded audio, especially something that listeners are highly familiar with, like the human voice, piano, etc, even minute changes in timbre are noticed. And then there's the 'uncanny valley' from animation. If you change a vocal part to something too far from what is naturally singable, or give a guitarist the ability to play 10-note chords, it's going to sound weird, even if there are no audible artifacts in the processing. And by and large, it has f*ck all to do with Detroit Techno.
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
cool - now I can play blindfolded and then go back in and manipulate it so it sounds like a tune technology - meh :-/ MEK "Thor Teague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/17/2008 03:34:33 PM: > Unless this is a gimmick or a fake, > > http://www.videosift.com/video/Pitch-correction-like-youve-never-seen
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless this is a gimmick or a fake, > > http://www.videosift.com/video/Pitch-correction-like-youve-never-seen > Everything's a hoax until they start shipping. -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
Also, again unless I am totally missing something, or this is a fake or a gimmick, this means we're officially on a countdown to the time when you can simply unbounce a rendered track woah! On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless this is a gimmick or a fake, > > http://www.videosift.com/video/Pitch-correction-like-youve-never-seen >
(313) This appears to be completely revolutionary unless I'm missing
Unless this is a gimmick or a fake, http://www.videosift.com/video/Pitch-correction-like-youve-never-seen
