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Well, I'm from Liverpool. I've been in Mcr 10 years and spent 5 years in Sheffield and Leeds. I've only been to Detroit once though so can't claim to have seen it all. The pure neglect and dereliction has gone from a lot of the northern Uk cities now but 80s/90s Sheffield I felt was the most like the D I saw. They do share some similarity so I guess I'm not disagreeing. robin... On 28 Mar 2008, at 17:59, "U&I Design" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've lived in both Liverpool and Detroit, and I'd have to say Liverpool is very much like Detroit, although, to be fair, both Manchester and Liverpool have very similar qualities to Detroit. I do think though that Liverpool is a closer likeness. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? On 27/03/2008, at 13:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Baltimore looks like Liverpool, which has also been compared to Detroit by many people Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. tom ### ### ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ### ### ###
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Hey Robin, I'd have to disagree with you on that. I spent 3 years in Liverpool, just moving back to Detroit 9 months ago, and the two cities have a lot of similarities even today, actually, especially today. The growth occurring in Detroit is symbolically similar to the growth occurring in Liverpool. Growth being stimulated by funding of the arts and social programs. Hundreds of millions of dollars being invested into Detroit through the Skillman foundation and the Bank of America. Hundreds of millions of pounds being invested by the EU Capital of Culture. Jodie On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:19 AM, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2008, at 17:23, Kowalsky wrote: > > I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. > > Anyone here agree with me? > > Hmmm I'm not sure Detroit is like either now. > > I think mid 80s Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield share a lot in common > with present day Detroit in terms of the dereliction of ex-industrial > areas, abandonment of buildings and maybe even in the feeling of > despair. Things have changed in the UK now though so the comparison is > less valid these days. > > btw. to keep this on topic: One of the reasons Detroit music has been > popular in the above northern UK cities (even going back to northern > soul days) is because of the fact that they have industrial pasts. > There's also massive differences too so I'm not saying the comparison > really holds. > > robin... >
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I've lived in both Liverpool and Detroit, and I'd have to say Liverpool is very much like Detroit, although, to be fair, both Manchester and Liverpool have very similar qualities to Detroit. I do think though that Liverpool is a closer likeness. On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. > Anyone here agree with me? > > > > On 27/03/2008, at 13:04, Robert Taylor wrote: > > > Baltimore looks like Liverpool, which has also been compared to > > Detroit > > by many people > > > > > > Rob Taylor > > VT Librarian > > x8599 > > Hatch Desk x1088 > > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Put it this way. > >> I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > >> I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. > > > > baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both > > two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. > > > > tom > > ## > > ### > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily represent > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > > stated. This email > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for > > the use of the > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > > received this email in > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > > > Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under > > English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . > > > > 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England > > and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London > > SW1P 2TX. > > > > VAT no: GB 626475817 > > > > ## > > ### > > > >
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But that's the poitn, isn't it? It's "analogic to", not "the same thing". On 28/03/2008, at 09:19, robin wrote: On 27 Mar 2008, at 17:23, Kowalsky wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? Hmmm I'm not sure Detroit is like either now. I think mid 80s Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield share a lot in common with present day Detroit in terms of the dereliction of ex- industrial areas, abandonment of buildings and maybe even in the feeling of despair. Things have changed in the UK now though so the comparison is less valid these days. btw. to keep this on topic: One of the reasons Detroit music has been popular in the above northern UK cities (even going back to northern soul days) is because of the fact that they have industrial pasts. There's also massive differences too so I'm not saying the comparison really holds. robin...
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On 27 Mar 2008, at 17:23, Kowalsky wrote: I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? Hmmm I'm not sure Detroit is like either now. I think mid 80s Liverpool/Manchester/Sheffield share a lot in common with present day Detroit in terms of the dereliction of ex-industrial areas, abandonment of buildings and maybe even in the feeling of despair. Things have changed in the UK now though so the comparison is less valid these days. btw. to keep this on topic: One of the reasons Detroit music has been popular in the above northern UK cities (even going back to northern soul days) is because of the fact that they have industrial pasts. There's also massive differences too so I'm not saying the comparison really holds. robin...
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I've been hearing that story as well. Also been hearing about the dead stripper too though... -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 27 March 2008 19:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Gil Yaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: (313) re: Kwame OT So back to the thread topic, I just had lunch with one of kwame's childhood friends that lives here in the A. I wanted to hear something better about the situation from someone close to the source. turns out, it's MAD bad. Kwame, the girl he had an affair with AND her husband, were all childhood friends. So there was a bit of personal wackness going on as well. I asked my friend how he felt about the sitch and he said, " basically kwame blew it. He got comfortable and let the position go to his head. Like when you feel very important and you act untouchable, then when things begin to touch you, you do things outside of your morals (usually called "doing what I gotta do" by those engaged) to try to maintain the illusion for fear it may crumble your image (meanwhile doing a great job of that all by yourself). And as is the norm in those situations, you're the last one to realize how bad you blew it. Usually it's too late to fix it." I could care less about the location of your dong, but fxcking your friends over (and their wives) is never forgive action where I'm from. Sucks. Kayess news network (KNN) Where you hear the real ish first! P.S. I hope this isn't inappropriate or offends anyone. If so let me know and I'll make a public 313 apology (hey, it's a sensitive subject).
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That's what most Americans say when I tell them about my trips to Detroit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 17:54 To: Gil Yaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT LOL - Baltimore for holiday We got the same thing here when Fargo came out - people from the UK wanted to go visit Fargo are only question was "why in god's name would you want to do that?" MEK Gil Yaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/27/2008 12:28:52 PM: > Never ever thought I'd see a post like this in my lifetime. > Save yourself the air fair and watch some John Waters movies. If you > do go, at least Os tickets are extremely cheap. > > Personally, I'd never had thought of going, and now I know I never > will go to Detroit, except for a Movement/DEMF like event. > > - Original Message > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:56:56 AM > Subject: RE: (313) re: Kwame OT > > Put it this way. > I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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So back to the thread topic, I just had lunch with one of kwame's childhood friends that lives here in the A. I wanted to hear something better about the situation from someone close to the source. turns out, it's MAD bad. Kwame, the girl he had an affair with AND her husband, were all childhood friends. So there was a bit of personal wackness going on as well. I asked my friend how he felt about the sitch and he said, " basically kwame blew it. He got comfortable and let the position go to his head. Like when you feel very important and you act untouchable, then when things begin to touch you, you do things outside of your morals (usually called "doing what I gotta do" by those engaged) to try to maintain the illusion for fear it may crumble your image (meanwhile doing a great job of that all by yourself). And as is the norm in those situations, you're the last one to realize how bad you blew it. Usually it's too late to fix it." I could care less about the location of your dong, but fxcking your friends over (and their wives) is never forgive action where I'm from. Sucks. Kayess news network (KNN) Where you hear the real ish first! P.S. I hope this isn't inappropriate or offends anyone. If so let me know and I'll make a public 313 apology (hey, it's a sensitive subject).
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did I actually spell "our" as "are" yes I did hangs head in shame MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/27/2008 12:54:21 PM: > LOL - Baltimore for holiday > > We got the same thing here when Fargo came out - people from the UK wanted > to go visit Fargo > are only question was "why in god's name would you want to do that?" > > MEK > > Gil Yaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/27/2008 12:28:52 PM: > > > Never ever thought I'd see a post like this in my lifetime. > > Save yourself the air fair and watch some John Waters movies. If you > > do go, at least Os tickets are extremely cheap. > > > > Personally, I'd never had thought of going, and now I know I never > > will go to Detroit, except for a Movement/DEMF like event. > > > > - Original Message > > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:56:56 AM > > Subject: RE: (313) re: Kwame OT > > > > Put it this way. > > I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > > I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. > > > > > > Rob Taylor > > VT Librarian > > x8599 > > Hatch Desk x1088 > > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >
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I think that about London! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 17:54 To: Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT LOL - Baltimore for holiday We got the same thing here when Fargo came out - people from the UK wanted to go visit Fargo are only question was "why in god's name would you want to do that?" MEK Gil Yaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/27/2008 12:28:52 PM: > Never ever thought I'd see a post like this in my lifetime. > Save yourself the air fair and watch some John Waters movies. If you > do go, at least Os tickets are extremely cheap. > > Personally, I'd never had thought of going, and now I know I never > will go to Detroit, except for a Movement/DEMF like event. > > - Original Message > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:56:56 AM > Subject: RE: (313) re: Kwame OT > > Put it this way. > I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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LOL - Baltimore for holiday We got the same thing here when Fargo came out - people from the UK wanted to go visit Fargo are only question was "why in god's name would you want to do that?" MEK Gil Yaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/27/2008 12:28:52 PM: > Never ever thought I'd see a post like this in my lifetime. > Save yourself the air fair and watch some John Waters movies. If you > do go, at least Os tickets are extremely cheap. > > Personally, I'd never had thought of going, and now I know I never > will go to Detroit, except for a Movement/DEMF like event. > > - Original Message > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:56:56 AM > Subject: RE: (313) re: Kwame OT > > Put it this way. > I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Never ever thought I'd see a post like this in my lifetime. Save yourself the air fair and watch some John Waters movies. If you do go, at least Os tickets are extremely cheap. Personally, I'd never had thought of going, and now I know I never will go to Detroit, except for a Movement/DEMF like event. - Original Message From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:56:56 AM Subject: RE: (313) re: Kwame OT Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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I would say that Manchester looks like Detroit more than Liverpool. Anyone here agree with me? On 27/03/2008, at 13:04, Robert Taylor wrote: Baltimore looks like Liverpool, which has also been compared to Detroit by many people Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. tom ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 ## ###
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On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you guys are mad late. ive been watching since ep 1! tom That's nice. I've been watching since it was Homicide back in the 90s. :P -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Shet! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 16:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure, I'm on ep 2 and watching only one show a week - old school > style. Best TV I've seen in a long time, some of the shots and detail > is amazing. oh just wait, it gets much much much better. tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Baltimore looks like Liverpool, which has also been compared to Detroit by many people Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Put it this way. > I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure, I'm on ep 2 and watching only one show a week - old school > style. Best TV I've seen in a long time, some of the shots and detail > is amazing. oh just wait, it gets much much much better. tom
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Put it this way. > I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. > I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. baltimore and detroit are very similar in many respects. they are both two of my favorite places to go! you should definitely check both out. tom
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On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:56, Robert Taylor wrote: Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. You should go down the "dam in your Sunday Best Rob, you looked great in that toppa m
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On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:55, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:47, Robert Taylor wrote: Detroit doesn't have that pull anymore - it's Baltimore now! Who told you that Rob? Bubbles? Great program tho, totally addicted. you guys are mad late. ive been watching since ep 1! Sure, I'm on ep 2 and watching only one show a week - old school style. Best TV I've seen in a long time, some of the shots and detail is amazing. m
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Put it this way. I want to go to Baltimore on holiday. I've never felt the need to do so in Detroit. Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 15:53 To: Robert Taylor Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:47, Robert Taylor wrote: > Detroit doesn't have that pull anymore - it's Baltimore now! Who told you that Rob? Bubbles? Great program tho, totally addicted. m # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:47, Robert Taylor wrote: > > Detroit doesn't have that pull anymore - it's Baltimore now! > > Who told you that Rob? Bubbles? > > Great program tho, totally addicted. you guys are mad late. ive been watching since ep 1! tom
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On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:47, Robert Taylor wrote: Detroit doesn't have that pull anymore - it's Baltimore now! Who told you that Rob? Bubbles? Great program tho, totally addicted. m
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Detroit doesn't have that pull anymore - it's Baltimore now! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2008 15:45 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT Oh come on Ken, it does have a strange pull, just like the moon, the full moon :) m On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:42, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > Sadly, this seems implausible to me! > >> Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe. > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Oh come on Ken, it does have a strange pull, just like the moon, the full moon :) m On 27 Mar 2008, at 15:42, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Sadly, this seems implausible to me! Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe.
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Sadly, this seems implausible to me! >Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe.
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give me a break. spitzer got 10x the news kwame has, despite being relatively clean compared to kwambo. bush and cheney aren't going to catch heat for anything. - Original Message - From: "U&I Design" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the business of the City as well. And I don't know all the facts of the case, either. But one thing I do know, that I was taught as a young boy: A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell. Hauling someone up on perjury charges for trying to keep a private matter private is BS -- it's the same as Clinton's impeachment. It's not the same as Clinton's impeachment because of a whole string of reasons. Starting with 2 girls are dead, policemen were fired because they were trying to investigate the deaths, and then Kwame pushed the city into a lawsuit that cost the city more than $8mil during a trial where he was lying about the facts even before it even went to trial. I mean, if he really cared about the city, then he wouldn't have forced the city to pay $8mil+ for something that he was knowingly committing perjury for. Whatever the case, NPR and a number of other media stations are utilizing this Detroit political fight as a reference to the national US political mess we are experiencing in the presidential office. If you listened to NPR the day the Detroit news was announced, they spent the morning talking about Kwame, and they spent the afternoon taking callers who wanted to remember their loved ones who died in the Iraq war. People were making comments about how after Suddham was hanged, it should have been Bush and Chaney in the electric chair for the wrongdoings they've done. This went on for a few hours, with people talking about how the President and VP need to be impeached and tried for their war crimes. Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe. This trial with Kwame just may lead into the trial of the nations biggest criminals, Bush and Chaney. I think the world will be watching closely on this one. I hope this Detroit mess fuels the nations ability to get a trial together against Bush and Chaney, who have cost the nation billions in a war that was started from their lies. My 2 cents... On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. Fair enough Kent. > > In passing, speaking of The City: > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340939,00.html > > Yes, I too do not know all the facts, so can't make any comment either > way, even were it my place to do so. > > And I'm not making any comment one way or the other about the source > having anything to do with the veracity of the story. Not at all. Would > never do that. >
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I agree. I was in awe for a couple seconds and am still thinking about the very real possibilities that were just put forth. Thanks for that post. I didn't know that. Tight. k -Original Message- From: Thor Teague [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:05 PM To: list 313 Cc: kent williams; Odeluga, Ken Subject: Re: (313) re: Kwame OT Reading this I realize it's been quite a while since I've heard anyone speak hopefully about the future and simultaneously realistically about the present, which is refreshing and has significantly more to do with Detroit Techno and all motown music than any other discussion currently in progress on the 313 list. > It's not the same as Clinton's impeachment because of a whole string > of reasons. Starting with 2 girls are dead, policemen were fired > because they were trying to investigate the deaths, and then Kwame > pushed the city into a lawsuit that cost the city more than $8mil > during a trial where he was lying about the facts even before it even > went to trial. I mean, if he really cared about the city, then he > wouldn't have forced the city to pay $8mil+ for something that he was > knowingly committing perjury for. > > Whatever the case, NPR and a number of other media stations are > utilizing this Detroit political fight as a reference to the national > US political mess we are experiencing in the presidential office. If > you listened to NPR the day the Detroit news was announced, they spent > the morning talking about Kwame, and they spent the afternoon taking > callers who wanted to remember their loved ones who died in the Iraq > war. People were making comments about how after Suddham was hanged, > it should have been Bush and Chaney in the electric chair for the > wrongdoings they've done. This went on for a few hours, with people > talking about how the President and VP need to be impeached and tried > for their war crimes. > > Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe. This trial > with Kwame just may lead into the trial of the nations biggest > criminals, Bush and Chaney. I think the world will be watching > closely on this one. I hope this Detroit mess fuels the nations > ability to get a trial together against Bush and Chaney, who have cost > the nation billions in a war that was started from their lies. > > My 2 cents... >
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
Reading this I realize it's been quite a while since I've heard anyone speak hopefully about the future and simultaneously realistically about the present, which is refreshing and has significantly more to do with Detroit Techno and all motown music than any other discussion currently in progress on the 313 list. > It's not the same as Clinton's impeachment because of a whole string > of reasons. Starting with 2 girls are dead, policemen were fired > because they were trying to investigate the deaths, and then Kwame > pushed the city into a lawsuit that cost the city more than $8mil > during a trial where he was lying about the facts even before it even > went to trial. I mean, if he really cared about the city, then he > wouldn't have forced the city to pay $8mil+ for something that he was > knowingly committing perjury for. > > Whatever the case, NPR and a number of other media stations are > utilizing this Detroit political fight as a reference to the national > US political mess we are experiencing in the presidential office. If > you listened to NPR the day the Detroit news was announced, they spent > the morning talking about Kwame, and they spent the afternoon taking > callers who wanted to remember their loved ones who died in the Iraq > war. People were making comments about how after Suddham was hanged, > it should have been Bush and Chaney in the electric chair for the > wrongdoings they've done. This went on for a few hours, with people > talking about how the President and VP need to be impeached and tried > for their war crimes. > > Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe. This trial > with Kwame just may lead into the trial of the nations biggest > criminals, Bush and Chaney. I think the world will be watching > closely on this one. I hope this Detroit mess fuels the nations > ability to get a trial together against Bush and Chaney, who have cost > the nation billions in a war that was started from their lies. > > My 2 cents... >
Re: (313) re: Kwame OT
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly > it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his > own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the > business of the City as well. > > And I don't know all the facts of the case, either. But one thing I do > know, that I was taught as a young boy: A gentleman doesn't kiss and > tell. Hauling someone up on perjury charges for trying to keep a > private matter private is BS -- it's the same as Clinton's > impeachment. > It's not the same as Clinton's impeachment because of a whole string of reasons. Starting with 2 girls are dead, policemen were fired because they were trying to investigate the deaths, and then Kwame pushed the city into a lawsuit that cost the city more than $8mil during a trial where he was lying about the facts even before it even went to trial. I mean, if he really cared about the city, then he wouldn't have forced the city to pay $8mil+ for something that he was knowingly committing perjury for. Whatever the case, NPR and a number of other media stations are utilizing this Detroit political fight as a reference to the national US political mess we are experiencing in the presidential office. If you listened to NPR the day the Detroit news was announced, they spent the morning talking about Kwame, and they spent the afternoon taking callers who wanted to remember their loved ones who died in the Iraq war. People were making comments about how after Suddham was hanged, it should have been Bush and Chaney in the electric chair for the wrongdoings they've done. This went on for a few hours, with people talking about how the President and VP need to be impeached and tried for their war crimes. Symbolic. Detroit has a powerful effect on the globe. This trial with Kwame just may lead into the trial of the nations biggest criminals, Bush and Chaney. I think the world will be watching closely on this one. I hope this Detroit mess fuels the nations ability to get a trial together against Bush and Chaney, who have cost the nation billions in a war that was started from their lies. My 2 cents... > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK. Fair enough Kent. > > > > In passing, speaking of The City: > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340939,00.html > > > > Yes, I too do not know all the facts, so can't make any comment either > > way, even were it my place to do so. > > > > And I'm not making any comment one way or the other about the source > > having anything to do with the veracity of the story. Not at all. Would > > never do that. > > >
