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Ask Paris or Lindsay, he he he. On 26/05/2007, at 12:19 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses and our own vehicles. From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF good luck getting a cab @ 5am even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... public transit is not our strong point in the D On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me on this. Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in 2003, and it was relatively cheap to boot. Have a grand time! # # ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 # # ### ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 ## ###
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That's for sure. Where else can you see Mad Mike playing tracks with the Unknown Rapper laying science on top at 2 am like we did last night :) fh - >Things happen, but no more so than any other city. Here in Detroit we >struggle with a negative image, some self-induced, some media driven, but >all in all only techno goers seem to appreciate the full spectrum that >Detroit can offer on the underground side. > > >> From: John Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:49:34 -0500 >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >>> Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? >> >> You have to be really careful. >> >> Here is a true Detroit story about my old neighbor: he got way too drunk one >> night and tried to drive home alone. He passed out in his car while driving >> at a red light. He woke up in the middle of the street with no car, no >> wallet, and no shoes. >> >> He had to knock on a bunch of random doors in the hood during the middle of >> the night to get home. Adventually, he found someone to call his mom for >> him, but she wouldn't let him in her house. >> >> We still laugh about this today. ;) >> >> _ >> Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. >> http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_ >> HM_mini_protection_0507 >> > > >
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[Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Humm... It looks like it is time for the RoboDriver to be introduced. ;-) Yeah, RoboCop was from Detroit, after all. Speaking of, I'm hoping he stops by one of the afterparties in this form: http://atomly.com/random/robocop.jpg -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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The strike was a one-day wildcat on Wednesday designed to get the City Council's attention to the urgent issue of safety for drivers and passengers. The Council got the message and passed the ordinance yesterday: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070524/UPDATE/705240472/1003 Also as of today Michigan has the highest gas prices in the country, and yes that includes Hawaii: http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/sbsavg.asp And the Greektown casino main computer crashed today: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070525/ENT11/70525032 Nothing beats the excitement at Festival time! fh - >Plus I believe there's a strike going on. > > >> From: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:55:13 -0400 >> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> >> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> good luck getting a cab @ 5am >> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... >> public transit is not our strong point in the D >> >> >>> >>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >>> >>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. >>>> >>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me on >>>> this. >>> >>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >>> 2003, and it was relatively cheap to boot. >>> >>> Have a grand time! >>> > > >
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That's for sure. Where else can you see Mad Mike playing tracks with the Unknown Rapper laying science on top at 2 am like we did last night :) fh - >Things happen, but no more so than any other city. Here in Detroit we >struggle with a negative image, some self-induced, some media driven, but >all in all only techno goers seem to appreciate the full spectrum that >Detroit can offer on the underground side. > > >> From: John Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:49:34 -0500 >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >>> Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? >> >> You have to be really careful. >> >> Here is a true Detroit story about my old neighbor: he got way too drunk one >> night and tried to drive home alone. He passed out in his car while driving >> at a red light. He woke up in the middle of the street with no car, no >> wallet, and no shoes. >> >> He had to knock on a bunch of random doors in the hood during the middle of >> the night to get home. Adventually, he found someone to call his mom for >> him, but she wouldn't let him in her house. >> >> We still laugh about this today. ;) >> >> _ >> Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. >> http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_ >> HM_mini_protection_0507 >> > > >
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On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 12:48:53PM -0500, David Powers wrote: > > The buses also don't run at night... and the bus drivers did indeed > walk out Wednesday, so the situation is very shaky. Be careful riding > the buses: the bus drivers walked out, because they want cops to ride > the buses, because driving them has become so dangerous. According to > yahoo news: "Gaffney said drivers are regularly assaulted physically > and verbally abused aboard the buses. One driver was badly beaten on > Tuesday evening by a passenger, he added." > Humm... It looks like it is time for the RoboDriver to be introduced. ;-) G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __
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[Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? In Detroit? Yeah. At least in my experience. Everything is too spaced out, there's no public transportation and the weather is often terrible. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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On May 25, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Adam Smith wrote: I had the cab ride of my life in Detroit during the DEMF one year, I will never forget it and I am just glad that I was with friends to prove that it actually happened. This reminds me of MEK's diptych of reviews of the Leland/Ramada. Elist's archives being down, I will quote: Isn't the Leland the place that used to be calling itself a Ramada but wasn't really a Ramada? I recall reading some hairy situations from customers who booked themselves in and when they saw the hotel and the rooms they checked themselves right back out. Some things like room doors that don't lock, unidentified dark stains on carpet and walls, holes in walls, junkies in the hallways and lobby hitting people up for money, screaming in the middle of the night, etc. here's one quote from TripAdvisor.com "My stay at the Leland Hotel was the most fun I've ever had. First off this is not a good hotel for families with small children because they might need phsycological help when they get home and also not a good choice for fans of teams other than Detroit to stay either, because you'll probablly get mugged or killed. If you want a taste of the real Detroit stay here and you won't be disappointed. Out of the 6 elevators 1 works and it has a smell that is unlike any other I've smelt before. There is also a goth night club right down in the lobby that blasts music all night on the weekends. Even if you are curious DO NOT go into the club because there is a chance you will run into the devil himself. In the hotel there are people who rent out rooms and live there year round, we met a guy there named Dre and he showed us where the liquer store was and fended off homeless people for 20 bucks and a pack of cigarettes. Make sure you bring cash and treat a couple brotha's to a 40oz. and some vodka. The rooms are okay but the couch was soiled, the window was broken, the smoke detector was ripped off the wall and the T.V. was broken. A great hotel in the greatest city in the world! DETROIT! REPRESENT" LOL come to think of it - I think that's where the All Access party was at Here's another one "This is the most disgusting place I ever stayed, and I am far from a soccer mom (see previos post). This place is absolutely disgusting. I lived on the streets of the Bronx, homeless for 3 years before putting myself together and I can say, honestly, that this is the worst place I ever stayed at in my life. The manager even offered me a complimentary night, and I still left a day early. You need to be buzzed into the elevators (FROM THE LOBBY!!!) to keep out homeless people. There were bloodstains on the ironing board, the carpets were wet and moldy, the bathrooms had pubic hair everywhere, along with wet, dirty towels. When I informed the manager (this is just the tip of the iceberg-email me for ictures I took in case I ended up in court to get my money back AND so I can warn people without a libel suit) she told me "good help is hard to find" yet 2 blocks away is a Holiday Inn and MGM Grand that my fellow travellers loved. SHe then put me in the "suite" which was just as bad. Steer clear of this place." quite an endorsement MEK -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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true all dat! > You really must have a car to get around in Detroit, or know someone > with a car, you may be pretty screwed. And this does cause drunk > driving - in my own case, I'm quite embarrased about driving to the > burbs after the UR cabaret party (4 years ago?). But it's not like I > could live my car there. I can't believe I didn't get pulled over! > > Anyone who might venture away from downtown, try to make friends with > someone from the D who has a car. As a backup, I would suggest you get > the number of a cab company that will pick you up, and make sure you > have access to a cell phone. Even downtown I've been stranded with no > cab in sight for over two hours. But you can usually get picked up, > though it may take up to an hour. > > The buses also don't run at night... and the bus drivers did indeed > walk out Wednesday, so the situation is very shaky. Be careful riding > the buses: the bus drivers walked out, because they want cops to ride > the buses, because driving them has become so dangerous. According to > yahoo news: "Gaffney said drivers are regularly assaulted physically > and verbally abused aboard the buses. One driver was badly beaten on > Tuesday evening by a passenger, he added." > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070523/us_nm/detroit_buses_dc > > I can vouch for the danger of the buses: I lived downtown (on > Woodward) for a very short time once, and got a short term job at the > Detroit Zoo. I used the bus to get there. I saw a guy get in the bus > driver's face and threaten to shoot him. Luckily some helpful bus > riders managed to grab the guy and threw him out the door. > > ~David
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I had the cab ride of my life in Detroit during the DEMF one year, I will never forget it and I am just glad that I was with friends to prove that it actually happened. After standing in line for well over an hour trying to get into the Transmat after-party we gave up and opted to go to another party somewhere on the outskirts of town, I believe Stacey Pullen and Alton Miller were to play. We hailed a cab and told the guy where we wanted to go. He looked back at us and said, "there ain't no f'n way I'm takin two white boys out there at this time of the night!" Based on his recommendation we decided to call it a night. On our way back to the hotel, the cab driver started telling us a story about how he and his buddy had this scheme once where they would meet up with some ladies (I'll use ladies in lieu of his preferred word), take them out, get them smashed, then go to the hotel. Well apparently he and his buddy liked to shave their heads and switch it up in the middle of the night for their unsuspecting ladies. It seems that if the ladies were smashed enough, and the lights were low enough, this was an excellent way to try all offerings at the buffet. Well, as he was wrapping up his very animated story, this car comes out of nowhere driving insanely fast, passing us like we were sitting still. "Oh sh#t!" our cab driver exclaims, "it's a f$ckin police chase." And it was, a police car comes flying by us immediately after the first car. So the cab driver speeds up to keep up with the action. The police car catches up with the first car and pulls it over quickly, cops get out, etc...our wise cab driver knowingly states about the car that got busted, "where the f$ck he gonna go in this city?" as we pass by the scene. After we pass that scene, we come to a red light and pull up next to this Lexus SUV that has a serious entertainment system set up inside his vehicle. Our Dalai Lama like- cab driver, in his infinite wisdom, observes, "now how a motherf$cker gonna have 5 TV's and no ladies (using my alternate word here again)?" We pondered his rhetorical question. At that point, we finally made it to our hotel, where we paid and had to say goodbye to our cab driver. I had to ask my buddies if that really just happened. It did. Adam On 5/25/07, David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know of 2 detroiters that have been pulled over for DUI ( both of them wasted) ,and had bags of weed on them and the cops let them go (one of them got to keep his bag too.) dui's are however a huge deal in the suburbs, so be careful out there. many of the afterparties are within walking distance of hart plaza and most downtown hotels, so it that be done as well. there are indeed buses and taxis avaiable downtown by hart plaza, but cabs are scarce outside of the downtown area, especially @ 5am > >> > >> Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > >> and our own vehicles. > >> > >> > >>> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > >>> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 > >>> <313@hyperreal.org> > >>> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >>> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >>> > >>> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob Taylor > >>> VT Librarian > >>> x8599 > >>> Hatch Desk x1088 > >>> VT Library Users' Guide > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > >>> To: 313 > >>> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >>> > >>> good luck getting a cab @ 5am > >>> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > >>> public transit is not our strong point in the D > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > >>> advice. > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a > >>>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me > > > >>>>> on this. > >>>> > >>>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in > >>>> 2003, > >>> > >>>>
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On 5/25/07, David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there are indeed buses and taxis avaiable downtown by hart plaza, but cabs are scarce outside of the downtown area, especially @ 5am You really must have a car to get around in Detroit, or know someone with a car, you may be pretty screwed. And this does cause drunk driving - in my own case, I'm quite embarrased about driving to the burbs after the UR cabaret party (4 years ago?). But it's not like I could live my car there. I can't believe I didn't get pulled over! Anyone who might venture away from downtown, try to make friends with someone from the D who has a car. As a backup, I would suggest you get the number of a cab company that will pick you up, and make sure you have access to a cell phone. Even downtown I've been stranded with no cab in sight for over two hours. But you can usually get picked up, though it may take up to an hour. The buses also don't run at night... and the bus drivers did indeed walk out Wednesday, so the situation is very shaky. Be careful riding the buses: the bus drivers walked out, because they want cops to ride the buses, because driving them has become so dangerous. According to yahoo news: "Gaffney said drivers are regularly assaulted physically and verbally abused aboard the buses. One driver was badly beaten on Tuesday evening by a passenger, he added." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070523/us_nm/detroit_buses_dc I can vouch for the danger of the buses: I lived downtown (on Woodward) for a very short time once, and got a short term job at the Detroit Zoo. I used the bus to get there. I saw a guy get in the bus driver's face and threaten to shoot him. Luckily some helpful bus riders managed to grab the guy and threw him out the door. ~David
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I know of 2 detroiters that have been pulled over for DUI ( both of them wasted) ,and had bags of weed on them and the cops let them go (one of them got to keep his bag too.) dui's are however a huge deal in the suburbs, so be careful out there. many of the afterparties are within walking distance of hart plaza and most downtown hotels, so it that be done as well. there are indeed buses and taxis avaiable downtown by hart plaza, but cabs are scarce outside of the downtown area, especially @ 5am > >> > >> Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > >> and our own vehicles. > >> > >> > >>> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > >>> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 > >>> <313@hyperreal.org> > >>> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >>> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >>> > >>> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > >>> > >>> > >>> Rob Taylor > >>> VT Librarian > >>> x8599 > >>> Hatch Desk x1088 > >>> VT Library Users' Guide > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > >>> To: 313 > >>> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >>> > >>> good luck getting a cab @ 5am > >>> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > >>> public transit is not our strong point in the D > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > >>> advice. > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a > >>>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me > > > >>>>> on this. > >>>> > >>>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in > >>>> 2003, > >>> > >>>> and it was relatively cheap to boot. > >>>> > >>>> Have a grand time! > >>>> > >>> # > >>> # > >>> > >>> ### > >>> Note: > >>> > >>> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > >>> necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > >>> unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > >>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > >>> entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email > >>> in > >> > >>> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Thank You. > >>> > >>> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB > >>> 626475817 > >> > >>> # > >>> # > >>> > >>> ### > >> > >> > >> ## > >> > >> ### > >> Note: > >> > >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > >> necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > >> unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > >> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > >> entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > > > >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Thank You. > >> > >> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > > > >> ## > >> > >> ### > > > > > > ## > > ### > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > > represent > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > > email > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > > the > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > > email in > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > > ## > > ### > >
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I'd say it's pretty bad everywhere in the states but in Baltimore it's worse than most places I've been. You leave downtown on a Friday night and it seems like more than half the drivers on the road are over the limit. Cops generally have better things to do than worry about drunk driving in Baltimore. It ain't good but this if bound to happen when the only way to get around is by car. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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> Here is a true Detroit story about my old neighbor: he got way too drunk one > night and tried to drive home alone. He passed out in his car while driving > at a red light. He woke up in the middle of the street with no car, no > wallet, and no shoes. LOL - the "no shoes" bit is the best why not just take his pants too while they're at it? MEK
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Things happen, but no more so than any other city. Here in Detroit we struggle with a negative image, some self-induced, some media driven, but all in all only techno goers seem to appreciate the full spectrum that Detroit can offer on the underground side. > From: John Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:49:34 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > >> Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? > > You have to be really careful. > > Here is a true Detroit story about my old neighbor: he got way too drunk one > night and tried to drive home alone. He passed out in his car while driving > at a red light. He woke up in the middle of the street with no car, no > wallet, and no shoes. > > He had to knock on a bunch of random doors in the hood during the middle of > the night to get home. Adventually, he found someone to call his mom for > him, but she wouldn't let him in her house. > > We still laugh about this today. ;) > > _ > Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_ > HM_mini_protection_0507 >
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Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? yes On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The reason I've been thinking about it is from watching The Wire and seeing the state McNulty and Bunk get into before driving home - and they're cops! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: jwan allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:34 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Roberto Ty; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Yes there is, regardless of what one thinks a lot is. I once worked for the DUI office here in Pittsburgh (population including surrounding counties a little over a million) and the year end fiscal report would blow your mind. It's a multimillion dollar business, and I mean BUSINE$$! The recent lowering of the acceptable BAC, has just added more money to the coffers. But I digress, I'm really looking forward to this weekend and I'm sure I'll see many of the attendees on this list at some point. Drive, Fly, Walk Safely! jw On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 > To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > and our own vehicles. > > > > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > > To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 > > <313@hyperreal.org> > > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > > > How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > > > > > > Rob Taylor > > VT Librarian > > x8599 > > Hatch Desk x1088 > > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > > To: 313 > > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > > > > >> > >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: > >> > >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > > advice. > >>> > >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a > >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust > >>> me on this. > >> > >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in > >> 2003, > > > >> and it was relatively cheap to boot. > >> > >> Have a grand time! > >> > > > > ## > > > > ### > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email > > in > > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB > > 626475817 > > > > > ## > > > > ### > > > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > ### > -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com "dealing with your imperfect world" # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 #
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Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? You have to be really careful. Here is a true Detroit story about my old neighbor: he got way too drunk one night and tried to drive home alone. He passed out in his car while driving at a red light. He woke up in the middle of the street with no car, no wallet, and no shoes. He had to knock on a bunch of random doors in the hood during the middle of the night to get home. Adventually, he found someone to call his mom for him, but she wouldn't let him in her house. We still laugh about this today. ;) _ Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507
RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
The reason I've been thinking about it is from watching The Wire and seeing the state McNulty and Bunk get into before driving home - and they're cops! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: jwan allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:34 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Roberto Ty; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Yes there is, regardless of what one thinks a lot is. I once worked for the DUI office here in Pittsburgh (population including surrounding counties a little over a million) and the year end fiscal report would blow your mind. It's a multimillion dollar business, and I mean BUSINE$$! The recent lowering of the acceptable BAC, has just added more money to the coffers. But I digress, I'm really looking forward to this weekend and I'm sure I'll see many of the attendees on this list at some point. Drive, Fly, Walk Safely! jw On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 > To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > and our own vehicles. > > > > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > > To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 > > <313@hyperreal.org> > > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > > > How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > > > > > > Rob Taylor > > VT Librarian > > x8599 > > Hatch Desk x1088 > > VT Library Users' Guide > > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > > To: 313 > > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > > > > >> > >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: > >> > >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > > advice. > >>> > >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a > >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust > >>> me on this. > >> > >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in > >> 2003, > > > >> and it was relatively cheap to boot. > >> > >> Have a grand time! > >> > > > > ## > > > > ### > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email > > in > > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB > > 626475817 > > > > > ## > > > > ### > > > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > ### > -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com "dealing with your imperfect world" # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
That's bad. Well hopefully everyone party's safely. I haven't had personal experiences of too many incidents during the festival. > From: jwan allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:34:02 -0400 > To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Armin-Parcells > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313-List <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Yes there is, regardless of what one thinks a lot is. I once worked > for the DUI office here in Pittsburgh (population including > surrounding counties a little over a million) and the year end fiscal > report would blow your mind. It's a multimillion dollar business, and > I mean BUSINE$$! The recent lowering of the acceptable BAC, has just > added more money to the coffers. > > > But I digress, I'm really looking forward to this weekend and I'm sure > I'll see many of the attendees on this list at some point. > > Drive, Fly, Walk Safely! > > jw > > On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? >> >> >> Rob Taylor >> VT Librarian >> x8599 >> Hatch Desk x1088 >> VT Library Users' Guide >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 >> To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List >> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses >> and our own vehicles. >> >> >>> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 >>> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 >>> <313@hyperreal.org> >>> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >>> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >>> >>> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? >>> >>> >>> Rob Taylor >>> VT Librarian >>> x8599 >>> Hatch Desk x1088 >>> VT Library Users' Guide >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 >>> To: 313 >>> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >>> >>> good luck getting a cab @ 5am >>> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... >>> public transit is not our strong point in the D >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some >>> advice. >>>>> >>>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>>>> on this. >>>> >>>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >>>> 2003, >>> >>>> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >>>> >>>> Have a grand time! >>>> >>> ## >>> >>> ### >>> Note: >>> >>> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >>> necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation >>> unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are >>> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >>> entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in >> >>> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Thank You. >>> >>> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 >> >>> ## >>> >>> ### >> >> >> # >> >> Note: >> >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily >> represent >> those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This >> email >> and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of >> the >> individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this >> email in >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thank You. >> >> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 >> # >> >> > > > -- > Technoir Audio > http://www.technoiraudio.com > "dealing with your imperfect world"
Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
I've never heard of a limit here. I mean that's up to the discretion of the bartender. If he thinks you're belligerent, he'll probably cut you off for the night. There will be after parties and clubs within walking distance from the festival. I'm not sure what the status of taxis are with the strike, but I'm sure the hotel concierge will be able to help there. This is a memorial day (holiday) weekend, so I'd assume the city has public transportation available. To what capacity I'm not sure. I was shocked to hear about hotel prices from friends coming in. I was shocked a lot were already booked. In years past, I've been able to get a room closer to the festival date, so I'm hoping this is a sign that this year really is going to be one big party. Paxhau seems to be doing a good job. On the news the other day they mentioned they improved the whole lighting setup and promised it to be spectacular. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:26:19 +0100 > To: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Armin-Parcells > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313-List <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Isn't there a limit? You're only allowed one beer here, but most people > won't drink at all when driving. But if you guys have little to no > public transport and like going out and getting wrecked in clubs, I was > wondering how you coped! > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 15:22 > To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Depends on what a lot is? I don't think so, but one is too many if it > leads to death. I don't have numbers on this though. > > >> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:19:57 +0100 >> To: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Armin-Parcells >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313-List <313@hyperreal.org> >> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? >> >> >> Rob Taylor >> VT Librarian >> x8599 >> Hatch Desk x1088 >> VT Library Users' Guide >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 >> To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List >> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses >> and our own vehicles. >> >> >>> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 >>> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 >>> <313@hyperreal.org> >>> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >>> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >>> >>> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? >>> >>> >>> Rob Taylor >>> VT Librarian >>> x8599 >>> Hatch Desk x1088 >>> VT Library Users' Guide >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 >>> To: 313 >>> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >>> >>> good luck getting a cab @ 5am >>> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... >>> public transit is not our strong point in the D >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some >>> advice. >>>>> >>>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me > >>>>> on this. >>>> >>>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >>>> 2003, >>> >>>> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >>>> >>>> Have a grand time! >>>> >>> # >>> # >>> >>> ### >>> Note: >>> >>
Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
Yes there is, regardless of what one thinks a lot is. I once worked for the DUI office here in Pittsburgh (population including surrounding counties a little over a million) and the year end fiscal report would blow your mind. It's a multimillion dollar business, and I mean BUSINE$$! The recent lowering of the acceptable BAC, has just added more money to the coffers. But I digress, I'm really looking forward to this weekend and I'm sure I'll see many of the attendees on this list at some point. Drive, Fly, Walk Safely! jw On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses and our own vehicles. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 > <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > To: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > >> >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >> >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > advice. >>> >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>> on this. >> >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >> 2003, > >> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >> >> Have a grand time! >> > ## > > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > > ### # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 # -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com "dealing with your imperfect world"
Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
It's all a matter of blood alcohol content. The bars in Detroit stop serving alcohol at 2 so if you dance until 5 -- IF you can dance until 5 -- you're probably OK to drive. On 5/25/07, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't there a limit? You're only allowed one beer here, but most people won't drink at all when driving. But if you guys have little to no public transport and like going out and getting wrecked in clubs, I was wondering how you coped! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:22 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Depends on what a lot is? I don't think so, but one is too many if it leads to death. I don't have numbers on this though. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:19:57 +0100 > To: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Armin-Parcells > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313-List <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 > To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > and our own vehicles. > > >> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 >> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 >> <313@hyperreal.org> >> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? >> >> >> Rob Taylor >> VT Librarian >> x8599 >> Hatch Desk x1088 >> VT Library Users' Guide >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 >> To: 313 >> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> good luck getting a cab @ 5am >> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... >> public transit is not our strong point in the D >> >> >>> >>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >>> >>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some >> advice. >>>> >>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>>> on this. >>> >>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >>> 2003, >> >>> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >>> >>> Have a grand time! >>> >> # >> # >> >> ### >> Note: >> >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >> necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation >> unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are >> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >> entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email >> in > >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thank You. >> >> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB >> 626475817 > >> # >> # >> >> ### > > > ## > > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > > ### # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
Isn't there a limit? You're only allowed one beer here, but most people won't drink at all when driving. But if you guys have little to no public transport and like going out and getting wrecked in clubs, I was wondering how you coped! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:22 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Depends on what a lot is? I don't think so, but one is too many if it leads to death. I don't have numbers on this though. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:19:57 +0100 > To: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Armin-Parcells > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313-List <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 > To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > and our own vehicles. > > >> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 >> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 >> <313@hyperreal.org> >> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? >> >> >> Rob Taylor >> VT Librarian >> x8599 >> Hatch Desk x1088 >> VT Library Users' Guide >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 >> To: 313 >> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> good luck getting a cab @ 5am >> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... >> public transit is not our strong point in the D >> >> >>> >>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >>> >>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some >> advice. >>>> >>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>>> on this. >>> >>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >>> 2003, >> >>> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >>> >>> Have a grand time! >>> >> # >> # >> >> ### >> Note: >> >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >> necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation >> unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are >> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >> entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email >> in > >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thank You. >> >> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB >> 626475817 > >> # >> # >> >> ### > > > ## > > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > > ### # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
Depends on what a lot is? I don't think so, but one is too many if it leads to death. I don't have numbers on this though. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:19:57 +0100 > To: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Armin-Parcells > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313-List <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 > To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses > and our own vehicles. > > >> From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 >> To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 >> <313@hyperreal.org> >> Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? >> >> >> Rob Taylor >> VT Librarian >> x8599 >> Hatch Desk x1088 >> VT Library Users' Guide >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 >> To: 313 >> Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF >> >> good luck getting a cab @ 5am >> even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... >> public transit is not our strong point in the D >> >> >>> >>> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >>> >>>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some >> advice. >>>> >>>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>>> on this. >>> >>> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >>> 2003, >> >>> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >>> >>> Have a grand time! >>> >> ## >> >> ### >> Note: >> >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >> necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation >> unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are >> confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or >> entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thank You. >> >> Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > >> ## >> >> ### > > > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > ###
RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
Is there a lot of drink driving in the US? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses and our own vehicles. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 > <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > To: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > >> >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >> >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > advice. >>> >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>> on this. >> >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >> 2003, > >> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >> >> Have a grand time! >> > ## > > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation > unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are > confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > > ### # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 #
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Maybe they should re-name it The People Nudger. ... I've already got my coat on ... -Original Message- From: Roberto Ty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 15:07 To: Robert Taylor; David Armin-Parcells; 313-List Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses and our own vehicles. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > To: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > >> >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >> >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > advice. >>> >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>> on this. >> >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in 2003, > >> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >> >> Have a grand time! >> > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > ###
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Good ol' footpower, People Mover (a very short transit system), buses and our own vehicles. > From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:38 +0100 > To: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Conversation: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > Subject: RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 > To: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > >> >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >> >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some > advice. >>> >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me >>> on this. >> >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in 2003, > >> and it was relatively cheap to boot. >> >> Have a grand time! >> > ## > ### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This > email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of > the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > > Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 > ## > ###
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Plus I believe there's a strike going on. > From: David Armin-Parcells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:55:13 -0400 > To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF > > good luck getting a cab @ 5am > even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... > public transit is not our strong point in the D > > >> >> On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: >> >>> I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. >>> >>> 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a >>> streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me on >>> this. >> >> Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in >> 2003, and it was relatively cheap to boot. >> >> Have a grand time! >>
RE: (313) since I won't be at DEMF
How the hell do you guys get around when out on the town then? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: David Armin-Parcells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 May 2007 14:55 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) since I won't be at DEMF good luck getting a cab @ 5am even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... public transit is not our strong point in the D > > On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: > > > I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. > > > > 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a > > streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me > > on this. > > Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in 2003, > and it was relatively cheap to boot. > > Have a grand time! > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel 4, 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX. VAT no. GB 626475817 #
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good luck getting a cab @ 5am even if you call for one it may take an hour to get to you... public transit is not our strong point in the D > > On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: > > > I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. > > > > 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a > > streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me on > > this. > > Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in > 2003, and it was relatively cheap to boot. > > Have a grand time! >
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On 24 May 2007, at 02:49, kent williams wrote: I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me on this. Or just cab it everywhere. Worked really well for Nicole & me in 2003, and it was relatively cheap to boot. Have a grand time!
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"kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/23/2007 08:49:04 PM: > 9. If you don't feel what you're hearing, move. It's always the case > that someone you never heard of is going to blow you away. LOL - I first read this as "If you don't feel your hearing, move." I guess that's always good advice too. Careful with those decibels people. MEK
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>8. OTOH make a big bag of healthy treats, send in a friend, and pitch the bag over the fence away from the gate and any security. Hey what about this Kent? Bringing in food from outside isn't permitted? (Not that I'm going or anything, ahem...) Ken
(313) since I won't be at DEMF
I'm wishing all who attend a great festival, and offering some advice. 1. If you go to an afterparty and you're not parked right under a streetlight on Woodward, park in a lot with an attendant. Trust me on this. 2. Go to Submerge, and introduce yourself. Introduce yourself to other shoppers. Watch out for Europeans on their first trip to Detroit -- they're prone to swoon. Go upstairs to the Museum. Give T Linder some crap if he's hanging around. 3. Eat breakfast at the Clique, at the Shorecrest, a few blocks south of the Ren Cen. 4. If there's one night that none of the afterparties thrill you, hang at the hotel and chill. This will keep you from being one of the walking dead by Monday afternoon. 5. The most important night to hit an afterparty is Monday. Otherwise, leaving the gates at Hart Plaza is so sad. 6. Figure you're going to spend $50 on water at the festival and stop worrying about it. Filling an empty bottle in the bathrooms feels really gross. 7. Don't bring in contraband, the Detroit cops are chill until they aint and then they are your worst nightmare. 8. OTOH make a big bag of healthy treats, send in a friend, and pitch the bag over the fence away from the gate and any security. 9. If you don't feel what you're hearing, move. It's always the case that someone you never heard of is going to blow you away.
