Re: (313) tone arm wiggling fixed

2003-03-07 Thread Gary . Girard

Yeah thanks to Sakke for finally sorting my decks out!

It was indeed a simple matter of anti-skate & weight just being at the
right settings - and one of the feet being loose on one deck.
 I tested it with cueing & spin-backs & the needle just stayed in that
groove   :O)

cheers!
G.



Re: (313) tone arm wiggling fixed

2003-03-07 Thread Paul Hudson
With no anti-skate, the cartridge will get natrually pulled towards the
center of the record due to the forces involved in a spinning object.  Put a
blank sided record on, turn off the anti-skate and place the arm down on it
(get ready to catch it quickly) - you'll see that it'll fly towards the
center of the record.

The anti-skate applies a force in the opposite direction so that the forces
on either side of the record groove are equal.  Put the correct amount of
anti-skate on the arm and then place it back onto the spinning blank
record - you'll see that the arm no longer flies towards the center.
Actually, it probably flies outwards slightly, but remember the forces on
the stylus are different in the groove than on a blank sided record.  Best
way to set anti-skate is to set it to match you playing weight, and then
play some music, listening out for any distortion on either left or right
channels - especially on peaks.  Adjust anti-skate until you remove this
distortion.

>
> As I understand it, the anti-skating dial is in place in order to
compensate
> for  any overt pull towards the inside or outside, but I've never really
> figured that out, except as a reaction to a problem, and to be honest I
> don't really understand how a dial works in that context, since a varying
> elipse always goes both inside and out by the same degree - or it should
> anyway.
>



Re: (313) tone arm wiggling fixed

2003-03-07 Thread Phonopsia
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tonearm should only 'wiggle' depending on
the 'centricity' of the plug - i.e., if the plug is off-center, the tonearm
will waver accordingly. Otherwise, the tonearm should always relate equally
to the center of the record, right? There should really be no variance other
than per-record, not per turntable. Or I could be totally wrong about this,
but that's how I've always dealt with it.

As I understand it, the anti-skating dial is in place in order to compensate
for  any overt pull towards the inside or outside, but I've never really
figured that out, except as a reaction to a problem, and to be honest I
don't really understand how a dial works in that context, since a varying
elipse always goes both inside and out by the same degree - or it should
anyway.

Tristan
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From: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:00 PM
Subject: (313) tone arm wiggling fixed


> thanks to everyones help.
>
> I think I may have fixed it some what.
>
> I tightened the little screw on top of the carriage. it still does it a
> little but it is bairy noticable now and the record doesn't skip any more.
>
> little tech question.
> I think I may have tightened it to much to begin with? will the record
skip
> if that is to tight? I tightened it ine whole turn at first, but it
skipped
> bad so I backed it off to about 1/3 of a turn.
>
> scotto
> lansing, mi.
>
>




Re: (313) tone arm wiggling fixed

2003-03-07 Thread Recoil >

little tech question.
I think I may have tightened it to much to begin with? will the record skip
if that is to tight? I tightened it ine whole turn at first, but it skipped
bad so I backed it off to about 1/3 of a turn.


yeah i messed up my tonearm and had to do the same thing.. basically mine 
got pushed to the right so that it broke past it's little guard.


it messed up the internal balances and made it super heavy

so yeah - i used a screwdriver to bring it back to it's original weight, 
more or less, but you do have to be very very careful.. otherwise it will be 
either too heavy, and will get into a rut and/or put excess wear on the 
record, or if it's too light, welll... that's the problem you had in the 
first place ... jittery tonearm


better to have it a bit too heavy though, i reckon

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(313) tone arm wiggling fixed

2003-03-06 Thread scotto
thanks to everyones help.

I think I may have fixed it some what.

I tightened the little screw on top of the carriage. it still does it a
little but it is bairy noticable now and the record doesn't skip any more.

little tech question.
I think I may have tightened it to much to begin with? will the record skip
if that is to tight? I tightened it ine whole turn at first, but it skipped
bad so I backed it off to about 1/3 of a turn.

scotto
lansing, mi.



RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-06 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
I have one that wiggles more than the other too...still haven't figured out 
why.  

Let me know if you figure out why...I'll do tha same.

Thanks yo,
d$

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:19 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) tone arm wiggling


I was digging through some older records and put on bc 1.  I was standing
there watch the record spin and the tone arm caught my eye. it was wiggling
very fast, now I thaught that was odd so I put the record on the other table
and it did not do it. I then decided to swap the needles and I had the same
results.

now not every record does this and the BC 1 was rather bad it got to one
point and it started to skip a couple times. I tested the same area on the
oother table no skip or even pop.

I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove. the
other table does not do this.

so I am now thinking something is broken or loose. has anyone else
experienced this problem?

will this damage my records? make them wear out faster?

scotto
lansing, mi.



Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread dan

I can think of three possible explanations:

1. the height ring is not locked, which makes the whole assembly a bit wobbly
2. the pins holding the arm in place are a bit loose (tighten v. gently)
3. the socket that the headshell sits in is loose - this is really 
annoying and may require a new tone arm.



Dan




I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove.
the
other table does not do this.

I've been experiencing this problem a lot recently. I bought new needles
last year but the problem remains, when I cue the records the needle jumps
out the groove and goes back to the start. Putting 5 p coins on top of the
cartridge sorted the problem out but when I read on 313 about extra weight
damaging records they came straight off!
 I've tried adjusting the weight & height of the tone arm but it doesn't
help the problem. I put it down to the fact that I must have been sold some
dodgy needles (they're the standard Stanton ones) & thought trying a
different make might sort it out.

Does anyone know what the problem might be?

G.




RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Langsman, Marc

Lol That's the funniest sh!t Ive read all day :D 

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> Subject: Re: (313) tone arm wiggling
> 
> 
> > tone arm Wiggling
> > 
> > titties jiggling
> > 
> > pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.
> > 
> > 
> > ease up on the laughin' son,
> > 
> > this aint the funnies,
> > 
> > the tits that are "jigglin'"
> > 
> > are definitely ya Mummy's
> 
> 
> better watch out kid, you diss my mum,
> 
> she'll be round like a shot to smack ya bum,
> 
> Mum, bum, my rhymes that cum
> 
> like a shot from me trouser gun
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Jarvis
> 
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> > Subject: RE: (313) tone arm wiggling
> > 
> > 
> > tone arm Wiggling
> > 
> > titties jiggling
> > 
> > pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.
> > 
> > 
> > ease up on the laughin' son,
> > 
> > this aint the funnies,
> > 
> > the tits that are "jigglin'"
> > 
> > are definitely ya Mummy's
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 05 March 2003 15:48
> > To: Langsman, Marc; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (313) tone arm wiggling
> > 
> > 
> > tone arm Wiggling
> > 
> > titties jiggling
> > 
> > pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rob Jarvis
> > 
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> >> From: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:35:39 -
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> >> Subject: RE: (313) tone arm wiggling
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> >> titties jiggling !
> >> 
> >> Sorry I couldn't resist the booty reference there ;)
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Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd.
> tone arm Wiggling
> 
> titties jiggling
> 
> pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.
> 
> 
> ease up on the laughin' son,
> 
> this aint the funnies,
> 
> the tits that are "jigglin'"
> 
> are definitely ya Mummy's


better watch out kid, you diss my mum,

she'll be round like a shot to smack ya bum,

Mum, bum, my rhymes that cum

like a shot from me trouser gun



Rob Jarvis

Victoria Music Ltd.
Unit 215 old gramaphone works
326 Kensal Road
London
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> From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:18:54 -
> To: "Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Langsman,
> Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) tone arm wiggling
> 
> 
> tone arm Wiggling
> 
> titties jiggling
> 
> pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.
> 
> 
> ease up on the laughin' son,
> 
> this aint the funnies,
> 
> the tits that are "jigglin'"
> 
> are definitely ya Mummy's
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 March 2003 15:48
> To: Langsman, Marc; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) tone arm wiggling
> 
> 
> tone arm Wiggling
> 
> titties jiggling
> 
> pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Jarvis
> 
> Victoria Music Ltd.
> Unit 215 old gramaphone works
> 326 Kensal Road
> London
> W10 5BZ
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> 
>> From: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:35:39 -
>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: (313) tone arm wiggling
>> 
>> 
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RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread rob

tone arm Wiggling

titties jiggling

pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.


ease up on the laughin' son,

this aint the funnies,

the tits that are "jigglin'"

are definitely ya Mummy's

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From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 15:48
To: Langsman, Marc; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) tone arm wiggling


tone arm Wiggling

titties jiggling

pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.



Rob Jarvis

Victoria Music Ltd.
Unit 215 old gramaphone works
326 Kensal Road
London
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Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd.
tone arm Wiggling

titties jiggling

pimpdaddy  on the mic,  come on start giggling.



Rob Jarvis

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Unit 215 old gramaphone works
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RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Langsman, Marc

...titties jiggling !

Sorry I couldn't resist the booty reference there ;)

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RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Alex Bates wrote on Wed, 5 Mar 2003 about following:

> and too much back and forth cueing up :)

well, i used to be quite active dj - the records that were "hit" and 
"massive" got quite a lot of deck time. for example black science 
orchestra's "altered states ep" and those robin s ones.. and and.. 
speedy j's pullover and kym sims - too blind to see it.. and so on :)

but in general, records wear out surprisingly fast as most of the time 
you don't get to play with decks that are properly set. most of the time 
you'll see worn out needles, too much weight (for example because the 
table they are on sucks and the floor sucks -> dancers bouncing too 
heavily -> needles jump)

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RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Alex Bates
and too much back and forth cueing up :)

ab

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:25 PM
To: Alex Bates
Cc: 313
Subject: RE: (313) tone arm wiggling


Alex Bates wrote on Wed, 5 Mar 2003 about following:

> correct - however when i mix i dont want the records to skip at all, so
its
> the trade off i make. for strictly listening purposes less weight on the
> record is obviously better

i just happen to hate it as some of my records have this noticeable
"swoosh" before and over the first beat - result of playing on decks
with too much weight, bad needles..
sakke

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RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Alex Bates wrote on Wed, 5 Mar 2003 about following:

> correct - however when i mix i dont want the records to skip at all, so its
> the trade off i make. for strictly listening purposes less weight on the
> record is obviously better

i just happen to hate it as some of my records have this noticeable 
"swoosh" before and over the first beat - result of playing on decks 
with too much weight, bad needles.. but you can't always take your own 
decks to the gig. especially annoying if the record has nice piano + 
acapella and in the middle of that the beat kicks in, you can hear that 
the record is worn out. of course, having double copies would be cool 
but i can't afford to buy two copies of every record i buy. and i know i 
can't find double copies of some older tracks easily anymore :)


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Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Paul Hudson
This will probably be to do with the tonearm and cartridge compatibility.
Do a google search for "tonearm cartridge Resonance" and you'll find a few
links explaining the phenomenon.
Here's one of them I found
http://www.gcaudio.com/Archives/tonearmcartidge.htm

Putting more playing weight on will help the cartridge to track but will
make the sound become more 'dead' and will wear records quicker.  However,
what wears records out the most are mistracks.  I don't know too much about
Dj turntables and the like but I have heard from very many sources that the
arms Technics come with are not really very good.  Origin live
(www.originlive.com) make nice cheapish arms including one which they now
aim for the DJ market.  I have a OL modified rega arm on my turntable and
it's superb but I've no idea what it's like for scratching etc.


Please remember to look after your Vinyl as it's a very precious and you owe
it future generations who may want to hear this music.


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To: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: (313) tone arm wiggling


>
> I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
> needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove.
> the
> other table does not do this.
>
> I've been experiencing this problem a lot recently. I bought new needles
> last year but the problem remains, when I cue the records the needle jumps
> out the groove and goes back to the start. Putting 5 p coins on top of the
> cartridge sorted the problem out but when I read on 313 about extra weight
> damaging records they came straight off!
>  I've tried adjusting the weight & height of the tone arm but it doesn't
> help the problem. I put it down to the fact that I must have been sold
some
> dodgy needles (they're the standard Stanton ones) & thought trying a
> different make might sort it out.
>
> Does anyone know what the problem might be?
>
> G.
>
>
>



RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Alex Bates
correct - however when i mix i dont want the records to skip at all, so its
the trade off i make. for strictly listening purposes less weight on the
record is obviously better

you have to be listening to a 12" record a LOT for it to noticebaly lose
quality

ab

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:07 PM
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Subject: Re: (313) tone arm wiggling


also, someone suggested switching the weight "upside-down". not good
because then you don't know how much anti-skate you need. and you get A
lot more weight on the needle -> MORE WEAR on the records.

sakke

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Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Sakari Karipuro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 5 Mar 2003 about following:

> Does anyone know what the problem might be?

is your deck in balance? the "feet" are the key here. they can be set to 
different heights.

also, check your anti-skate settings. some records with heavy basses 
and/or with some phasing in basses (lot phasing->groove will cut off, 
but this is usually addressed in test-pressing phase, and if one knows 
what they are doing, already in mixing and mastering) make this happen.

typical quick rule for antiskate setting is that if you have 2.5g of 
weight, try anti-skate around 2.3-2.7. i dunno the proper way to figure 
out the correct setting but if you have one sided record, put the needle 
on the empty side and and it should travel trough the record in about 5 
minutes. that's whats been told here before, never done that :)

also, someone suggested switching the weight "upside-down". not good 
because then you don't know how much anti-skate you need. and you get A 
lot more weight on the needle -> MORE WEAR on the records.

sakke
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RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Gary . Girard

I don't think the tone arm has been flipped round backwards - I've had a
mate check it out as well but I'll double check.

I did try adjusting the anti-skate (I think I've tried all possible
combinations of weight / height / anti-skate !!)

It's got to the point where it's just too annoying to mix as I'm always
battling against the decks!

G.



RE: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Alex Bates
have you flipped the tonearm weight around backwards?

ab

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I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove.
the
other table does not do this.

I've been experiencing this problem a lot recently. I bought new needles
last year but the problem remains, when I cue the records the needle jumps
out the groove and goes back to the start. Putting 5 p coins on top of the
cartridge sorted the problem out but when I read on 313 about extra weight
damaging records they came straight off!
 I've tried adjusting the weight & height of the tone arm but it doesn't
help the problem. I put it down to the fact that I must have been sold some
dodgy needles (they're the standard Stanton ones) & thought trying a
different make might sort it out.

Does anyone know what the problem might be?

G.




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Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Gary . Girard

I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove.
the
other table does not do this.

I've been experiencing this problem a lot recently. I bought new needles
last year but the problem remains, when I cue the records the needle jumps
out the groove and goes back to the start. Putting 5 p coins on top of the
cartridge sorted the problem out but when I read on 313 about extra weight
damaging records they came straight off!
 I've tried adjusting the weight & height of the tone arm but it doesn't
help the problem. I put it down to the fact that I must have been sold some
dodgy needles (they're the standard Stanton ones) & thought trying a
different make might sort it out.

Does anyone know what the problem might be?

G.





Re: (313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread Recoil >
i dont think it will wear the records out any faster, but it is extremely 
hazardous to doing any fast cueing, or scratching


i have a similar problem on one of tables .. and i've seen it on others...

get a screwdriver and very gently tighten it a little - be very gradual 
though


that should clear up your problem

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From: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (313) tone arm wiggling
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:19:26 -0500

I was digging through some older records and put on bc 1.  I was standing
there watch the record spin and the tone arm caught my eye. it was wiggling
very fast, now I thaught that was odd so I put the record on the other 
table

and it did not do it. I then decided to swap the needles and I had the same
results.

now not every record does this and the BC 1 was rather bad it got to one
point and it started to skip a couple times. I tested the same area on the
oother table no skip or even pop.

I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove. 
the

other table does not do this.

so I am now thinking something is broken or loose. has anyone else
experienced this problem?

will this damage my records? make them wear out faster?

scotto
lansing, mi.




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(313) tone arm wiggling

2003-03-05 Thread scotto
I was digging through some older records and put on bc 1.  I was standing
there watch the record spin and the tone arm caught my eye. it was wiggling
very fast, now I thaught that was odd so I put the record on the other table
and it did not do it. I then decided to swap the needles and I had the same
results.

now not every record does this and the BC 1 was rather bad it got to one
point and it started to skip a couple times. I tested the same area on the
oother table no skip or even pop.

I also noticed with that table when I cue records or try to scratch the
needle and tone arm move around a lot and usually pop out of the groove. the
other table does not do this.

so I am now thinking something is broken or loose. has anyone else
experienced this problem?

will this damage my records? make them wear out faster?

scotto
lansing, mi.