Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
ARRGH IT'S THE BAD THREAD THAT WON'T DIE AND GO AWAY!

Worse yet, it's spawning equally evil (and repetitive) threads!  I don't
even care anymore (not that I cared to begin with)!  Y'all are talking in
circles... die, thread, die

Can we get back to the music?  B*tch about Moby or Carl Cox or haggle over
t-shirts?  Gripe about Sony or BMG?  Anything but this anymore!

So ---> Did anyone go to the World's Largest Live PA thing?  Was it
any good or did I not miss out on anything?  I'm just curious as to whether
Juan Atkins and Kevin Saunderson actually showed up there or not

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RE: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread John Bush
This guy is **SO** not-for-real...


I'll save Mr. Sledgianowski the trouble of replying to my open-ended and
offensive message by putting on my Carnac the Magnificent hat and divining
his reply, no doubt forthcoming in about six minutes and transmitted to the
entire list:

"What do you mean not for real? I am as real as anyone else in this world
and if I want to be real I will be real besides what is your definition of
real? Everything I have mentioned is real and if what you hear is real you
should really be able to hear it."




Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Christos Michalakis
While we are on the subject of redicilous off topic questions, 
  
  What is the meaning of life?
  What is the "self?"
  What is love?
  What is the definition of a "musician?"

Look man, if you don't know what techno is, what 313 is (and I dont mean
the list) and its relation to techno, if oyu don't know how you can
"feel music with your brain," etc. then you are on the wrong list. I
don't know what encouraged you to join, but if I were you, I'd unsuscribe.

I apologize for adding even more fuel to the fire.

 -christos  

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:

> yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can give an exact
> definition of techno then how can techno be an exact form of music??
> dustin
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:41:30 -0400 "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > you have too much time on your hands!
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dustin A Sledgianowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:51 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
> > 
> > 
> > that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont 
> > get it
> > isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - 
> > ooh i
> > am feeling the brainwaves in my music
> > dustin
> > 
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > writes:
> > > I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what 
> > 
> > > this
> > > list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always 
> > felt
> > > that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> > > electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, 
> > just 
> > > a
> > > stated preference.
> > > 
> > > Dale,
> > > Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. Also
> > > enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> > > 
> > > Dale Lawrence wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I'll make this short and sweet:
> > > > 
> > > > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
> > > > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > > > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > > > 
> > > > Dale
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
well actually i dont need it - you do because how can anything you say
about techno ever be taken seriously unless you know exactly what techno
means?

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:23:07 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Veneman)
writes:
> > no i dont know what he means - i need the exact definition
> 
> No, you don't need it. What you need is to stop bothering hundreds 
> of people.
> Do you have too much spare time? Isn't there anything more useful 
> you can do 
> with it?
> 
> > what is it?
> 
> It is extremely irritating that you just can't see that you crossed 
> a line for
> many people. And no, i'm not going to define "irritating".
> At first i agreed with the point you were trying to make, but i 
> really don't 
> care anymore, just like everyone on the 313 mailing list. Can't you 
> just see
> that? You just don't want to see it. You only seem to care about 
> your own
> very important opinion.
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:07:55 EDT "Greg Malcolm" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > writes:
> > > words have many definitions, and you can make them say almost 
> > > anything...i'm 
> > > sure you know this.  i think you know what he means.
> > > 
> > > just a guess
> > > 
> > > Greg Malcolm
> > > Twine/Moniker/Twinesound Audio Productions
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >From: Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
> > > >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:48:47 -0400
> > > >
> > > >so what makes music be fluff? what is candy?
> > > >tell me an exact definition
> > > >dustin
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:29:58 -0400 Dale Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   I'll make this short and sweet:
> > > > >
> > > > >   Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated 
> cities.
> > > > >   Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > > > >   Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Dale
> > > > >
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
but how come you cant uncover more? is there a limit to what you can
uncover?
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:19:41 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> It is just one opinion. I am not discounting that trance for some is
> enjoyable. I personally don't like it. When I listen to techno I 
> just
> don't feel it, I think about it too. Much in the same way as Jazz or
> Classical music, I feel it, but often times there are stories behind
> these compositions in which the title hints to something more---a
> feeling, a thought, an idea, whatever. I think about how it was
> produced, what am I supposed to be thinking, feeling, etc. 
> 
> In that regard there are compositions that don't make me think even
> though they have lyrics and a message. Why? Because there is nothing 
> to
> uncover. It is what it is. And as an example I think most of us 
> wouldn't
> blink an eye, expend any thought, about pop artists like B.Spears, 
> 'N
> Sync, Backstreet, etc. Why? Because that's what it is. There's 
> nothing
> more to uncover. 
> 
> For me trance doesn't do it either. Is techno better? For me, yes. 
> The
> point of all this, and I am sorry if you got flamed, is that there 
> is
> room for Trance for those who are interested. It, however, doesn't
> belong on this list. We have all subscribed to this list to discuss 
> techno.
> 
> Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:
> > 
> > that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont 
> get it
> > isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - 
> ooh i
> > am feeling the brainwaves in my music
> > dustin
> > 
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > writes:
> > > I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's 
> what
> > > this
> > > list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always 
> felt
> > > that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> > > electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, 
> just
> > > a
> > > stated preference.
> > >
> > > Dale,
> > > Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. 
> Also
> > > enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> > >
> > > Dale Lawrence wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'll make this short and sweet:
> > > >
> > > > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated 
> cities.
> > > > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > > > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > > >
> > > > Dale
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Roberto Ty
It is just one opinion. I am not discounting that trance for some is
enjoyable. I personally don't like it. When I listen to techno I just
don't feel it, I think about it too. Much in the same way as Jazz or
Classical music, I feel it, but often times there are stories behind
these compositions in which the title hints to something more---a
feeling, a thought, an idea, whatever. I think about how it was
produced, what am I supposed to be thinking, feeling, etc. 

In that regard there are compositions that don't make me think even
though they have lyrics and a message. Why? Because there is nothing to
uncover. It is what it is. And as an example I think most of us wouldn't
blink an eye, expend any thought, about pop artists like B.Spears, 'N
Sync, Backstreet, etc. Why? Because that's what it is. There's nothing
more to uncover. 

For me trance doesn't do it either. Is techno better? For me, yes. The
point of all this, and I am sorry if you got flamed, is that there is
room for Trance for those who are interested. It, however, doesn't
belong on this list. We have all subscribed to this list to discuss techno.

Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:
> 
> that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont get it
> isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - ooh i
> am feeling the brainwaves in my music
> dustin
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what
> > this
> > list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always felt
> > that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> > electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, just
> > a
> > stated preference.
> >
> > Dale,
> > Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. Also
> > enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> >
> > Dale Lawrence wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll make this short and sweet:
> > >
> > > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
> > > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
well then how can you tell when you hear drum n bass that you are hearing
drum n bass? how can you tell when you are hearing techno that that is
what you are really hearing
everything i am talking about is related to 313 techno
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Curtis White
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --- Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can
> > give an exact
> > definition of techno then how can techno be an exact
> > form of music??
> > dustin
> 
> Can you give an exact definition of country,
> alternative, rock and roll, heavy metal, etc. no
> because it is almost impossible to describe music with
> exact definitions. Although music is categorized the
> only way to tell it apart is with your own ears. Whats
> drum and bass? hmm well it has drums and bass and
> breaks and vocals, but so do the other genres of
> electronic. Yet when you hear drum and bass you know
> it is drum and bass and not trance. Please stop this
> you are not thinking rationally and before long the
> list moderator is gonna kick your ass off. 
> 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Greg Malcolm
words have many definitions, and you can make them say almost anything...i'm 
sure you know this.  i think you know what he means.


just a guess

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From: Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:48:47 -0400

so what makes music be fluff? what is candy?
tell me an exact definition
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:29:58 -0400 Dale Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>I'll make this short and sweet:
>
>Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
>Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
>Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
>
>Dale
>
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
why not religious? who is to say what music is
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:07:41 -0400 Dale Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   People that feel the music within themselves are
>   taking that music to a deeper level, perhaps even
>   to a spiritual (not religious) level.  I understand
>   completely what he is talking about.  It also
>   provokes thought, but since you seem to spend most
>   of your time talking and not thinking, I doubt you
>   are at the point in your life where you will
>   understand this.
> 
>   I'm not trying to be elitist, but depending on
>   where you're at, you're either going to get it
>   or you won't.  And by your admission that you
>   have no idea what we're talking about when we
>   try to explain it, maybe this isn't the list
>   for you-- *at this time*.
> 
>   Also, I gave you the benefit of the doubt but
>   if you reply to this with any more intentionally
>   beyond-vague questions, I will also add you to
>   my delete filter.  I wade through about 200+
>   emails a day and I don't need provocative-for-
>   the-sake-of-being-provocative posts wasting my
>   bandwidth.
> 
>   No more posts from me on this subject at this
>   time...
> 
>   Dale
> 
>   PS- it's my birthday today.  Now be nice to
>   me and grant me the wish of not talking anymore
>   and just taking some time out to *listen*.
> 
> 
> At 03:51 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont 
> get it
> >isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - 
> ooh i
> >am feeling the brainwaves in my music
> >dustin
> >
> >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >writes:
> >> I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's 
> what 
> >> this
> >> list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always 
> felt
> >> that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> >> electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, 
> just 
> >> a
> >> stated preference.
> >> 
> >> Dale,
> >> Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. 
> Also
> >> enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> >> 
> >> Dale Lawrence wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I'll make this short and sweet:
> >> > 
> >> > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated 
> cities.
> >> > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> >> > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> >> > 
> >> > Dale
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Curtis White
--- Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can
> give an exact
> definition of techno then how can techno be an exact
> form of music??
> dustin

Can you give an exact definition of country,
alternative, rock and roll, heavy metal, etc. no
because it is almost impossible to describe music with
exact definitions. Although music is categorized the
only way to tell it apart is with your own ears. Whats
drum and bass? hmm well it has drums and bass and
breaks and vocals, but so do the other genres of
electronic. Yet when you hear drum and bass you know
it is drum and bass and not trance. Please stop this
you are not thinking rationally and before long the
list moderator is gonna kick your ass off. 


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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
no i dont know what he means - i need the exact definition
what is it?
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:07:55 EDT "Greg Malcolm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> words have many definitions, and you can make them say almost 
> anything...i'm 
> sure you know this.  i think you know what he means.
> 
> just a guess
> 
> Greg Malcolm
> Twine/Moniker/Twinesound Audio Productions
> 
> http://www.inneractions.com/twine
> http://www.adastra-records.com
> http://www.mp3.com/twine
> http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/56/3rdwave.html
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
> >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:48:47 -0400
> >
> >so what makes music be fluff? what is candy?
> >tell me an exact definition
> >dustin
> >
> >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:29:58 -0400 Dale Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >   I'll make this short and sweet:
> > >
> > >   Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
> > >   Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
sorry but i am not on the wrong list - if you do not know exactly what
techno means then how can anything you say be relevant to techno???
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Christos Michalakis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> While we are on the subject of redicilous off topic questions, 
>   
>   What is the meaning of life?
>   What is the "self?"
>   What is love?
>   What is the definition of a "musician?"
> 
> Look man, if you don't know what techno is, what 313 is (and I dont 
> mean
> the list) and its relation to techno, if oyu don't know how you can
> "feel music with your brain," etc. then you are on the wrong list. I
> don't know what encouraged you to join, but if I were you, I'd 
> unsuscribe.
> 
> I apologize for adding even more fuel to the fire.
> 
>  -christos  
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Dustin A Sledgianowski wrote:
> 
> > yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can give an exact
> > definition of techno then how can techno be an exact form of 
> music??
> > dustin
> > 
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:41:30 -0400 "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > you have too much time on your hands!
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dustin A Sledgianowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:51 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
> > > 
> > > 
> > > that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i 
> dont 
> > > get it
> > > isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head 
> - 
> > > ooh i
> > > am feeling the brainwaves in my music
> > > dustin
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > writes:
> > > > I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's 
> what 
> > > 
> > > > this
> > > > list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have 
> always 
> > > felt
> > > > that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> > > > electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that 
> music, 
> > > just 
> > > > a
> > > > stated preference.
> > > > 
> > > > Dale,
> > > > Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. 
> Also
> > > > enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> > > > 
> > > > Dale Lawrence wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll make this short and sweet:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated 
> cities.
> > > > > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > > > > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dale
> > > > > 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dale Lawrence

People that feel the music within themselves are
taking that music to a deeper level, perhaps even
to a spiritual (not religious) level.  I understand
completely what he is talking about.  It also
provokes thought, but since you seem to spend most
of your time talking and not thinking, I doubt you
are at the point in your life where you will
understand this.

I'm not trying to be elitist, but depending on
where you're at, you're either going to get it
or you won't.  And by your admission that you
have no idea what we're talking about when we
try to explain it, maybe this isn't the list
for you-- *at this time*.

Also, I gave you the benefit of the doubt but
if you reply to this with any more intentionally
beyond-vague questions, I will also add you to
my delete filter.  I wade through about 200+
emails a day and I don't need provocative-for-
the-sake-of-being-provocative posts wasting my
bandwidth.

No more posts from me on this subject at this
time...

Dale

PS- it's my birthday today.  Now be nice to
me and grant me the wish of not talking anymore
and just taking some time out to *listen*.


At 03:51 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
>that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont get it
>isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - ooh i
>am feeling the brainwaves in my music
>dustin
>
>On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>> I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what 
>> this
>> list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always felt
>> that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
>> electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, just 
>> a
>> stated preference.
>> 
>> Dale,
>> Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. Also
>> enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
>> 
>> Dale Lawrence wrote:
>> > 
>> > I'll make this short and sweet:
>> > 
>> > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
>> > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
>> > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
>> > 
>> > Dale
>> > 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
yes but the truth of the matter is that if NOONE can give an exact
definition of techno then how can techno be an exact form of music??
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:41:30 -0400 "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> you have too much time on your hands!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dustin A Sledgianowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 3:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza
> 
> 
> that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont 
> get it
> isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - 
> ooh i
> am feeling the brainwaves in my music
> dustin
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what 
> 
> > this
> > list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always 
> felt
> > that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> > electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, 
> just 
> > a
> > stated preference.
> > 
> > Dale,
> > Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. Also
> > enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> > 
> > Dale Lawrence wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'll make this short and sweet:
> > > 
> > > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
> > > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > > 
> > > Dale
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza - Welcome to my mail filter

2000-06-14 Thread Ignatius J. Reilly
Since, for some reason, you're so concerned with "exact definitions" -

an·noy
Pronunciation: &-'noi
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English anoien, from Middle French enuier, from Late Latin 
inodiare to make
loathsome, from Latin in + odium hatred -- more at ODIUM
Date: 13th century
transitive senses
1 : to disturb or irritate especially by repeated acts
ANNOY implies a wearing on the nerves by persistent petty unpleasantness 

20-odd posts a day is ridiculous, even if you did have a valid point in there 
somewhere. 
Why do you feel the members of this list need to justify their taste in music 
to you?
Your email address has been added to my list of blocked addresses. Ciao.

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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
that is the point - how can you feel music with your head? i dont get it
isnt the head for thinking? how do you feel music with your head - ooh i
am feeling the brainwaves in my music
dustin

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:34:58 -0400 Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what 
> this
> list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always felt
> that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
> electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, just 
> a
> stated preference.
> 
> Dale,
> Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. Also
> enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.
> 
> Dale Lawrence wrote:
> > 
> > I'll make this short and sweet:
> > 
> > Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
> > Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> > Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Dustin A Sledgianowski
so what makes music be fluff? what is candy?
tell me an exact definition
dustin

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> 
> 
>   I'll make this short and sweet:
> 
>   Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
>   Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
>   Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> 
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Re: [313] re: All this Trance vs Detroit Techno shizzza

2000-06-14 Thread Roberto Ty
I couldn't agree more. That's what I love about it and that's what this
list is about, so Dustin end the insanity please. I have always felt
that Detroit Techno was more "heady" music than other forms of
electronic music, like Trance. This is not a dis on that music, just a
stated preference.

Dale,
Finally picked up Ion and totally enjoyed it. Keep it up man. Also
enjoyed your performance at the DEMF.

Dale Lawrence wrote:
> 
> I'll make this short and sweet:
> 
> Trance is candy-coated, for candy-coated cities.
> Detroit is not a candy-coated city.
> Detroit Techno is (usually ;) not fluff.
> 
> Dale
> 
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