subject:"RE\: \(313\) Kevin Saunderson"


hahahahahaha.

that's cool, i like the Wizard. I like most everything mils did up until
about 1995. Then he seemed to peak and had to crawl up his ass and hoped
nobody noticed.

good point btw.

>  I mean take Jeff Mills (sorry Yussel, but it's a good example in this
case), sure he presents himself as doing this conceptual art thing now, but THE 
WIZARD was not some conceptual art project, it was the hits of the day played 
in a super-funky, outrageous style - in other words, party music!
>
> ~David
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:35:52 -
> From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> "you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
> known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
> the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club."
> I agree so that's not what I was saying - I just meant that DJs like Carl 
> Craig and Kevin Saunderson (the kind we discuss here) are not 'party DJs' and 
> aren't expected to play records that "ordinary people relate to" - they won't 
> get booked at a student gig and get asked to play Gloria Gaynor - at least 
> not in Europe
>
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>
> don't tell me what kind of DJs we discuss here.
>
> you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
> known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
> the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club.
>
> Acquaviva, while sometimes veering into cheese terrritory, has always been
> known for dropping in something fun and familiar and a little
> tongue'n'cheek during his sets. and the original "electric Avenue" is the
> f**king jam!
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread David Powers

Is this the same Carl Craig and Kevin Saunderson I know?...  Didn't Kevin 
Saunderson get his start playing fraternity parties?And Saunderson is 
definitely a "party DJ," his productions are often party type tunes as well.  
I'm not demeaning this, I just mean, the records are meant to function on the 
dancefloor, to get booties shaking out there.  Not necessarily for people to 
sit and stroke their chins and go "wow that's so far out" - at least, such 
records would be in the minority.  I do think Carl Craig plays to the crowd and 
the party too, sure he does it in his unique way, but I highly doubt it is the 
no compromise thing you imagine.  American music just isn't purist like that.  
It's not considered some kind of "high art" here.  Somebody like Carl Craig 
does projects that are more and less commercial, more or less danceable, from 
Designer Music or remixing Tori Amos to Innerzone which would be a more 
artistic less commercial type project.  And didn't people just mention that CC 
is playing a Beyonce track, can't get much more mainstream than that.

I think your idealism ignores the reality the DJing, on the level you are 
speaking of, is a business and DJs are hired to entertain crowds.  I don't know 
what you mean by student gigs but I don't see what Gloria Gayner has to do with 
anything.  

I would also say, most up-and-coming DJs in the US often have to pay dues when 
they get started and play all kinds of house parties, stuff with their friends, 
etc., where people did not come to hear techno.  Yeah maybe it is different 
when they get to be superstars over there in Europe and people are booking them 
hoping to hear a style they are known for.  In fact, there might be a cultural 
difference in this between Europe and the US.  In mmany/most places in the US 
if you want to DJ at all, you better be able to make an average person who 
doesn't know s**t about good house/techno be able to dance or have a good time 
with the music you play.  Or else you play at a super underground party, but 
there are probably only 15 people there, so while it has its place it won't pay 
any bills.  

I think a good DJ has a good give/take, they can draw the crowd in without 
pandering or just making things into a cheesefest.  Detroit techno was never 
this super-artistic style that some people make it out to be.  I mean take Jeff 
Mills (sorry Yussel, but it's a good example in this case), sure he presents 
himself as doing this conceptual art thing now, but THE WIZARD was not some 
conceptual art project, it was the hits of the day played in a super-funky, 
outrageous style - in other words, party music! 

~David

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:35:52 -
From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club."
I agree so that's not what I was saying - I just meant that DJs like Carl Craig 
and Kevin Saunderson (the kind we discuss here) are not 'party DJs' and aren't 
expected to play records that "ordinary people relate to" - they won't get 
booked at a student gig and get asked to play Gloria Gaynor - at least not in 
Europe

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


don't tell me what kind of DJs we discuss here.

you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club.

Acquaviva, while sometimes veering into cheese terrritory, has always been
known for dropping in something fun and familiar and a little
tongue'n'cheek during his sets. and the original "electric Avenue" is the
f**king jam!

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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Steward, Tim

Yussel
I do agree with you on that tip. I like to jump in
when people jump on some of my favorite artist.
By all means don't stop making your comments, the
more comments we have (good or bad) is actually good
for the list and good for the music scene. 

for example if someone comments of a track I'm not
familiar with, I try to go check it out for myself.

TS-1

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come on tim.

this list isn't about defending artists, its about criticizing artists-
"who we want, when we want, if we feel it is necessary"




On Thu, 6 May 2004, Steward, Tim wrote:

> Now you knew I would have to respond to that statement.
> It's your opinion to like or dislike any artist. But as
> a true music lover you must respect all artist. And I am
> definitely a big Jeff Mills fan.
>
> TS-1
>
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> Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
> i hate jeff mills
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
> > We should be able to criticize who we want, when we want, if we feel it
is
>- necessary
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> > On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a
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> > >What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> > >Favourite DJ play???
> >
> > Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on
topic,
> > how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
> > about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.
> >
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

"you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club."
I agree so that's not what I was saying - I just meant that DJs like Carl Craig 
and Kevin Saunderson (the kind we discuss here) are not 'party DJs' and aren't 
expected to play records that "ordinary people relate to" - they won't get 
booked at a student gig and get asked to play Gloria Gaynor - at least not in 
Europe

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


don't tell me what kind of DJs we discuss here.

you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club.

Acquaviva, while sometimes veering into cheese terrritory, has always been
known for dropping in something fun and familiar and a little
tongue'n'cheek during his sets. and the original "electric Avenue" is the
f**king jam!

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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

come on tim.

this list isn't about defending artists, its about criticizing artists-
"who we want, when we want, if we feel it is necessary"




On Thu, 6 May 2004, Steward, Tim wrote:

> Now you knew I would have to respond to that statement.
> It's your opinion to like or dislike any artist. But as
> a true music lover you must respect all artist. And I am
> definitely a big Jeff Mills fan.
>
> TS-1
>
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> Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
> i hate jeff mills
>
> On Thu, 6 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
> > We should be able to criticize who we want, when we want, if we feel it is
>- necessary
> >
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> > From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
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> > On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a
> while. or at least a week.
> >
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> >
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> >
> > >What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> > >Favourite DJ play???
> >
> > Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
> > how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
> > about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.
> >
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Hurrah! Doesn't make you feel better?
There seems to be a relcuctance on many people's part to bitch and moan (some 
on this list even seem to disapprove of it) - why not bitch and moan if you 
want to? Say when you like things and say when you don't - it's very 
therapeutic.
Saying negative things about DJs/producers doesn't make you a hater unless you 
have a hidden agenda

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i hate jeff mills

On Thu, 6 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

> We should be able to criticize who we want, when we want, if we feel it is 
> necessary
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
> On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a while. 
> or at least a week.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 May 2004 15:45
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
>
> >What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> >Favourite DJ play???
>
> Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
> how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
> about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.
>
> I hate the prodigy.
> In fact I hate everything, it's all rubbish.
>
> Alex
>
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

don't tell me what kind of DJs we discuss here.

you seem to have this idea that DJs only like the type of music they are
known for playing. That's so far from the truth it hurts. Almost all of
the DJs I know listen to very little dance music outside of the club.

Acquaviva, while sometimes veering into cheese terrritory, has always been
known for dropping in something fun and familiar and a little
tongue'n'cheek during his sets. and the original "electric Avenue" is the
f**king jam!

On Thu, 6 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

>  "DJs have to sometimes play stuff that ordinary people relate to"
> Not the kind of DJs who post here and who we discuss here - without getting 
> into another longwinded debate on DJs, these DJs should play what they 
> actually like, not pander to anyone - if the people are with them fine but if 
> they are not, I would rather they gave up than played [EMAIL PROTECTED] music 
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> Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
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> people relate to, their job is to rock the crowd, so what if they play 
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread avant

I went to Lost at PP and saw Saunderson and Bicknell.  Bicknell definitely
played the better set.  Although I knew a lot of the tunes by ear I only
actually knew for sure 2 of the tunes because I have them myself - chicago
"street player" and a track which is the b side to a bootleg of qtip and
talk talk that came out around xmas time.  Saunderson was a little weak in
term of technical skill that time I thought, bicknell really played well,
tho not much trickery, a lot of quick mixes (often all you can do with some
of those tunes).  After saunderson played Bicknell played some really nice
techno / tech housey kind of stuff, I think someone mentioned the names of
some of the tracks on LD.

I think really, if u have been to the other special losts it was very
similar and if you didn't go you didn't miss much in terms of music - what
made it worthwhile was to be able to dance all night (well - until 4am) to
those great classics coming out of a fantastic sound system with a fantastic
crowd of people all dancing, chatting and smiling - for me that is what it's
all about :)  it made me realise what a fantastic club PP is - every time
I've been there it's been brilliant.

matt


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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Steward, Tim

Now you knew I would have to respond to that statement.
It's your opinion to like or dislike any artist. But as
a true music lover you must respect all artist. And I am
definitely a big Jeff Mills fan.

TS-1

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


i hate jeff mills

On Thu, 6 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

> We should be able to criticize who we want, when we want, if we feel it is
necessary
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
> On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a
while. or at least a week.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 May 2004 15:45
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
>
> >What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> >Favourite DJ play???
>
> Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
> how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
> about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.
>
> I hate the prodigy.
> In fact I hate everything, it's all rubbish.
>
> Alex
>
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i hate jeff mills

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>
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> Sent: 06 May 2004 15:45
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> Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>
>
>
> >What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> >Favourite DJ play???
>
> Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
> how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
> about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.
>
> I hate the prodigy.
> In fact I hate everything, it's all rubbish.
>
> Alex
>
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Look, even Hendrix had to wipe his arse :)

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread David Powers

Ah I think it's the whole pedestal thing that gets to me.  A great 
producer/composer/song-writer, yeah maybe they deserve a pedestal.  But really, 
people make too big a deal about DJs.  It's a pretty democratic art form and if 
you buy great records and have a reasonable amount talent, you too can probably 
do just as well as most "big name" DJs.  Now if they are pulling out unheard 
original material and remixes that is a slightly different aspect of things 
(bordering on production).

I no longer feel like seeing DJ's is that big of a deal, unless I know they 
will be playing something I absolutely couldn't be exposed to any other way.  
Or if I'm positive there will be a really interesting crowd and a great 
atmosphere (something that has been scarce these days).  

One aspect of this is that I DJ myslef, and there are so many great records out 
there now, I'm just as happy buying them and making my own mixes - or writing a 
new track that has what I want to hear in it!  

~David

-- Original Message -
Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:07:05 -0500
From: Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On May 6, 2004, at 11:57 AM, David Powers wrote:
> That being said, I don't want to hear Briteny Spears or Justin 
> Timberlake, personally.  But you people seem to be taking this too 
> seriously.  I guess it just makes everyone sound really whiney to try 
> and discuss the WORST record you can think of a DJ playing.

ahh personally i'm not all about dissin, just poking fun the way you 
would laugh a bit about it over a beer with friends..  we all place 
these DJs on impossibly high pedestals and the reality is they're just 
people who make (usually) genius and (occasionally) bad musical 
selections all the time.  It's humanizing these stars..  DJing used to 
be the true democratization conduit between the crowd and the music... 
lately it's all this superstar power stuff that I think needs to be 
reeled back in to earth from time to time  :)

no harm intended, keep it lighthearted and tongue-in-cheek
peace
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Exactly- that's why I used the phrase "Detroit Legend"- a bit of light 
heartedness, and who HASN'T played a track they've regretted from time 
to time anyway?


cheers

Jason




no harm intended, keep it lighthearted and tongue-in-cheek
peace
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

what he said
Quoting Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

:
> 
> 
> ahh personally i'm not all about dissin, just poking fun the way
> you 
> would laugh a bit about it over a beer with friends..  we all
> place 
> these DJs on impossibly high pedestals and the reality is they're
> just 
> people who make (usually) genius and (occasionally) bad musical 
> selections all the time.  It's humanizing these stars..  DJing
> used to 
> be the true democratization conduit between the crowd and the
> music... 
> lately it's all this superstar power stuff that I think needs to
> be 
> reeled back in to earth from time to time  :)
> 
> no harm intended, keep it lighthearted and tongue-in-cheek
> peace
> --
> Matt MacQueen
> http://SonicSunset.com
>

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Matt MacQueen


On May 6, 2004, at 11:57 AM, David Powers wrote:
That being said, I don't want to hear Briteny Spears or Justin 
Timberlake, personally.  But you people seem to be taking this too 
seriously.  I guess it just makes everyone sound really whiney to try 
and discuss the WORST record you can think of a DJ playing.


ahh personally i'm not all about dissin, just poking fun the way you 
would laugh a bit about it over a beer with friends..  we all place 
these DJs on impossibly high pedestals and the reality is they're just 
people who make (usually) genius and (occasionally) bad musical 
selections all the time.  It's humanizing these stars..  DJing used to 
be the true democratization conduit between the crowd and the music... 
lately it's all this superstar power stuff that I think needs to be 
reeled back in to earth from time to time  :)


no harm intended, keep it lighthearted and tongue-in-cheek
peace
--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

nothing wrong with the original, but the remix blew. i usually have
a very high cheese tolerance, especially by 313 standards, but that
was a step too far for me - especially as the entire set was cheesy,
not just that record (as opposed to the pullen set i mentioned,
which was fantastic, one bad record or not). not like it ruined my
life or anything, it just kinda sucked, thats all.
thats my subjective opinion and i'm sticking to it :)

Quoting David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> What's wrong with "Electric Avenue"?
> 
> This snobby purist thing is starting to get to me.  I think you
> all forget that DJs have to sometimes play stuff that ordinary
> people relate to, their job is to rock the crowd, so what if they
> play something you think is cheesy once in a while?  It's not the
> same as playing a set full of cheesy stuff.  I mean, we're
> talking about "pop-art" here, it's not the same as a performance
> where people are just listening and nodding their heads.
> 
> That being said, I don't want to hear Briteny Spears or Justin
> Timberlake, personally.  But you people seem to be taking this
> too seriously.  I guess it just makes everyone sound really
> whiney to try and discuss the WORST record you can think of a DJ
> playing.  More to the point, it's really subjective, I'd be more
> interested in whether the crowd reacted poorly.  THAT would say
> something more objective or interesting about the subject.
> 
> ~David
> 
> 
> -- Original Message -
> Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in
> London
> Date: Thu,  6 May 2004 11:03:12 -0400
> From: Ben Britz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> stacey pullen - phats and small "respect the cock" at motor in
> 2001.
> 4 hours a stunning techno and chicago house, then THAT?!?!?!
> 
> also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
> ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was
> really,
> really bad
> 
> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > 
> > Brendan>Kenny Larkin, despite playing a very good set overall,
> > dropped one
> > or
> > >tracks in Liverpool a few months back that were so bad I had
> to
> > >walk off the dancefloor. The problem is, I don't remember
> what
> > they
> > >were...
> > 
> > I remember very little from that night..!
> > 
> > But, while we're on the subject of Kenny Larkin in Liverpool.
> > 
> > Was he just playing records that night? I'm sure he had a
> re-edit
> > of Never
> > On Sunday "Journey"
> > (or he was being clever with an fx box). or was he playing
> cd's
> > or with a
> > lap-top?
> > anyone else seen him on his 'tour'?
> > 
> > Scott - can you remember? or anyone?
> > 
> > Alex
> >
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

 "DJs have to sometimes play stuff that ordinary people relate to"
Not the kind of DJs who post here and who we discuss here - without getting 
into another longwinded debate on DJs, these DJs should play what they actually 
like, not pander to anyone - if the people are with them fine but if they are 
not, I would rather they gave up than played [EMAIL PROTECTED] music just to 
get more work.

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

  I think you all forget that DJs have to sometimes play stuff that ordinary 
people relate to, their job is to rock the crowd, so what if they play 
something you think is cheesy once in a while?  
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread David Powers

What's wrong with "Electric Avenue"?

This snobby purist thing is starting to get to me.  I think you all forget that 
DJs have to sometimes play stuff that ordinary people relate to, their job is 
to rock the crowd, so what if they play something you think is cheesy once in a 
while?  It's not the same as playing a set full of cheesy stuff.  I mean, we're 
talking about "pop-art" here, it's not the same as a performance where people 
are just listening and nodding their heads.

That being said, I don't want to hear Briteny Spears or Justin Timberlake, 
personally.  But you people seem to be taking this too seriously.  I guess it 
just makes everyone sound really whiney to try and discuss the WORST record you 
can think of a DJ playing.  More to the point, it's really subjective, I'd be 
more interested in whether the crowd reacted poorly.  THAT would say something 
more objective or interesting about the subject.

~David


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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
Date: Thu,  6 May 2004 11:03:12 -0400
From: Ben Britz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


stacey pullen - phats and small "respect the cock" at motor in 2001.
4 hours a stunning techno and chicago house, then THAT?!?!?!

also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
really bad

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> 
> Brendan>Kenny Larkin, despite playing a very good set overall,
> dropped one
> or
> >tracks in Liverpool a few months back that were so bad I had to
> >walk off the dancefloor. The problem is, I don't remember what
> they
> >were...
> 
> I remember very little from that night..!
> 
> But, while we're on the subject of Kenny Larkin in Liverpool.
> 
> Was he just playing records that night? I'm sure he had a re-edit
> of Never
> On Sunday "Journey"
> (or he was being clever with an fx box). or was he playing cd's
> or with a
> lap-top?
> anyone else seen him on his 'tour'?
> 
> Scott - can you remember? or anyone?
> 
> Alex
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Yep - it's the name of the street Brixton market is on, only a hundred yards 
from my flat - oh how we laughed the first time I told my flatmate that I was 
just 'going down to El-ect-tric Av-e-NUE'

(yes it's still on topic - Eddie Grant once smacked Derrick May for chatting up 
his bird (allegedly))

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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:07 PM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

>> On May 6, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Ben Britz wrote:
>>> also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
>>> ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
>>> really bad
>
> Are we talking the Phil Oakey version? If you are, you can see why tho

Wasn't that Eddie Grant?
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

phil oakey was electric dreams
eddie grant was electric avenue. it was the godawful "ringbang mix"
that was "big in miami" a few years ago

Quoting Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> >> On May 6, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Ben Britz wrote:
> >>> also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few
> years
> >>> ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was
> really,
> >>> really bad
> >
> > Are we talking the Phil Oakey version? If you are, you can see
> why tho...
> 
> Wasn't that Eddie Grant?
>

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


>> On May 6, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Ben Britz wrote:
>>> also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
>>> ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
>>> really bad
>
> Are we talking the Phil Oakey version? If you are, you can see why tho...

Wasn't that Eddie Grant?

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

6/5/04 4:15 PM Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 
> On May 6, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Ben Britz wrote:
>> also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
>> ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
>> really bad

Are we talking the Phil Oakey version? If you are, you can see why tho...

> speaking of detroit... Larkin's main offense in my book was playing
> Spastik at each and every DJ set he every played, years and years after
> it was played out.  I mean in it's day it was a party rocker, but
> essentially one giant snare roll folks..  and every single set??

House Nation anyone - thought not...

Martin

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Matt MacQueen



On May 6, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Ben Britz wrote:

also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
really bad


the flip side "time warp" is a jam though!

ahh acquaviva's the worst for a too-cheesey pop angle, once heard him 
drop at US-3 "Cantaloop" at a dark gloomy Packard Plant party in 
detroit, terrible disaster.


speaking of detroit... Larkin's main offense in my book was playing 
Spastik at each and every DJ set he every played, years and years after 
it was played out.  I mean in it's day it was a party rocker, but 
essentially one giant snare roll folks..  and every single set??


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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

-- Original Message --
From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>well i knew that would get me into trouble. in my defence the 
original 
>track it's based on is a blinder (i think, Max Romeo & The 
Upsetters - 
>Chase the devil)

yeah that joint is so hot that i think ive liked nearly every song 
ive heard sample it, and there have been tons. one of the best 
reggae tracks ever, no doubt. 

tom 


andythepooh.com

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London




it's all in the boing noise



Oi! Pinning!

First you're telling me Kylie sucks, then you're 'fessing up to owning this
record!

RED CARD my friend, 3 match ban, early bath, the lot.



well i knew that would get me into trouble. in my defence the original 
track it's based on is a blinder (i think, Max Romeo & The Upsetters - 
Chase the devil)


oh yeah so if i told u i bought it cos a girl i was chasing at the time 
liked it would that get me off the hook? hmmm thought not.


:)

robin...

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London



Robin(re.Prodigy)>i've got this tune.hahaha
>it's all in the boing noise

Oi! Pinning!

First you're telling me Kylie sucks, then you're 'fessing up to owning this
record!

RED CARD my friend, 3 match ban, early bath, the lot.
In fact, I'm telling the doormen at that Basic Channel do on Saturday that
you're not allowed in.

Kylie rocks (or her arse does anyway!)

Alex

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2004-05-06 Thread KiDDy*RaVeR

Ow totally agree.
Yuck this remix sucks, for me its like a reedit by sony, if you see what i
mean.
Erk the strings are awful.
And what i dispite the more, is that deep house djs put it in their mix,
they definitively should put the original one, it can be thrown in a deep
house mix without any problem.
I dont think ive ever heard the ashley beedle mix, maybe its better like
this then :)
- KiDD*e*


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Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
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I didn't like it either, but not as bad as that Ashley Beadle (?) a few
years earlier

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


I may get a slagging for this but I really don't like the Danny K edit of
String of life and all ways leave the dance floor when its dropped..

Leave the tune alone!!! it dident need fixing

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread matrix313

on 5/6/04 10:58 AM, robin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Regis - Toxic, Spears, Last week...
>> 
>> 
>> I've been reading that quite a few people have been playing this!
>> well, Gilles Peterson and also Ross Allen (as just mentioned here).
>> 
>> what's the deal, is it neptunes production or something, don't think I even
>> heard it.
>> 
>> or is it just a load of rubbish?
>> 
>> Quite a few 'trendy' manc dj's went through a Justin Timberlake phase not
>> long ago.
>> 
> 
> yeah none of the above is excusable.
> 
> timberfake pfff
> 
> and weatherall digging that rachel stevens track is equally bad.
> 
> people will be saying kylie is ok next...
> 
> 
> robin...
> 


oh no!! dont get the Austrailian sect started with Kylie!  ;^)

(you know who you are!)

XOXOX
sean

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Didn't Carl Craig - bless him - play Beyonce's contagious Chi-lites
>samplin'- Crazy In Love?

Yes, I heard him play it at Supercondutor in Leeds:

Because it's a great track!!!

As are several Destiny's Child tracks, "Rock Your Body" and even "Can't Get
You Out Of My Head".

Replies calling me a MoFo unnecessary - I know this already.

I'm fine about slagging The Prodigy and "electroclash bobbins" though.

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London




Cyclone Wehner wrote:

No, it's not the Neptunes, they do better stuff than that (avowed Neptunes
fan). Grrr, I hate her voice sooo much. 


here's the spears details:
http://www.sanity.com.au/product.asp?intProductID=539900&intArtistID=8571

van helden mix too...heh does this man have no shame :)


Didn't Carl Craig - bless him - play Beyonce's contagious Chi-lites
samplin'- Crazy In Love?


it's a bit of pop genius tune tho right? (i've danced to it :) )

it's also guaranteed to get all the girls at a party dancing. always a 
useful thing to be able to do :)


robin...

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


>> I mean, that's gotta be worse than playing Phil Collins (actually being
> Phil Collins)

>Being his Dad I would imagine :)

You got something to confess Martin?

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> I mean, that's gotta be worse than playing Phil Collins (actually being
> Phil Collins)

Being his Dad I would imagine :)

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


I heard Jochem of Amsterdam is Phil Collins in real life.

Does that count?

I mean, that's gotta be worse than playing Phil Collins (actually being
Phil Collins)


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No, it's not the Neptunes, they do better stuff than that (avowed Neptunes
fan). Grrr, I hate her voice sooo much. The first Migs remix was OK.
I never got the Justin thing myself. Playing Pharrell's Frontin', mind, I
can understand. ;)
Didn't Carl Craig - bless him - play Beyonce's contagious Chi-lites
samplin'- Crazy In Love?

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>

>
>>Regis - Toxic, Spears, Last week...
>
> I've been reading that quite a few people have been playing this!
> well, Gilles Peterson and also Ross Allen (as just mentioned here).
>
> what's the deal, is it neptunes production or something, don't think I even
> heard it.
>
> or is it just a load of rubbish?
>
> Quite a few 'trendy' manc dj's went through a Justin Timberlake phase not
> long ago.
>
> Alex
>
>
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2004-05-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 about following:

> 
> Isn't there a track called 'Jumpin' & a different one called 'Keep On
> Jumpin' ?

'Jumpin' is on Unreleased Project Part 4 and IIRC was the basis of 'keep 
on jumpin'.. can't remember exactly, these are like 9-10 year old 
tracks. It might even be that 'jumpin' is the dub on 'keep on jumpin' 
but since i don't have UP4, i can't verify.
 

sakke
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

yeah 'keep on jumpin' was a chart thing whilst 'jumpin' is the classic
track off unreleased project 4 (i think)

robin...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't there a track called 'Jumpin' & a different one called 'Keep On
Jumpin' ?

I agree that 'Jumpin' is classic Todd Terry.

Sakari Karipuro
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Jason Brunton wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 about following:

Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th

Keep on jumpin is excellent track, although played to death - more
importantly, it's a great cover of musique's track from '79. (and in my
books, last good release by todd terry)

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Gary . Girard





Isn't there a track called 'Jumpin' & a different one called 'Keep On
Jumpin' ?

I agree that 'Jumpin' is classic Todd Terry.





  
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Jason Brunton wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 about following:

> Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's
> -"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th

Keep on jumpin is excellent track, although played to death - more
importantly, it's a great cover of musique's track from '79. (and in my
books, last good release by todd terry)


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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a


while. or at least a week.

nope, not for playing that f**king s**t.

(I actually think he's a good dj for what it's worth, but that track, I
just don't get it)


i've got this tune.hahaha

it's all in the boing noise

:)

robin...

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

stacey pullen - phats and small "respect the cock" at motor in 2001.
4 hours a stunning techno and chicago house, then THAT?!?!?!

also acquaviva playing "electric avenue" at the demf a few years
ago, but he's neither a legend nor a favorite. but it was really,
really bad

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> 
> Brendan>Kenny Larkin, despite playing a very good set overall,
> dropped one
> or
> >tracks in Liverpool a few months back that were so bad I had to
> >walk off the dancefloor. The problem is, I don't remember what
> they
> >were...
> 
> I remember very little from that night..!
> 
> But, while we're on the subject of Kenny Larkin in Liverpool.
> 
> Was he just playing records that night? I'm sure he had a re-edit
> of Never
> On Sunday "Journey"
> (or he was being clever with an fx box). or was he playing cd's
> or with a
> lap-top?
> anyone else seen him on his 'tour'?
> 
> Scott - can you remember? or anyone?
> 
> Alex
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Matt Chester

Not my absolute favourite DJ, but Rob Hood playing that f*cking hard house
Destinys Child remix every single time I've seen him in the past 4 years
comes pretty high!

Once I could have lived with... (maybe ;-)


- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Brunton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


> Here's a fun game to play.
>
> What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> Favourite DJ play???
>
>
> Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not
> the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and
> Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's
> -"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th
> birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!
>
> cheers
>
> Jason
> On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >> but it more than made up for what I
> >> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night
> >> before.
> >
> > What sort of stuff was he playing?
> >
> > I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny,
> > Horny"
> > etc...
> > (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
> >
> > Alex
>

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

I didn't like it either, but not as bad as that Ashley Beadle (?) a few years 
earlier

-Original Message-
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I may get a slagging for this but I really don't like the Danny K edit of 
String of life and all ways leave the dance floor when its dropped..

Leave the tune alone!!! it dident need fixing

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???

Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex

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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


>On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a
while. or at least a week.

nope, not for playing that f**king s**t.

(I actually think he's a good dj for what it's worth, but that track, I
just don't get it)

Alex
*who didn't partake in any Garnier beating last week, but would like to
this week*
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

We should be able to criticize who we want, when we want, if we feel it is 
necessary

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On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a while. or 
at least a week.

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>What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
>Favourite DJ play???

Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.

I hate the prodigy.
In fact I hate everything, it's all rubbish.

Alex

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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

I may get a slagging for this but I really don't like the Danny K edit of 
String of life and all ways leave the dance floor when its dropped.

Leave the tune alone!!! it dident need fixing

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???


Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Sakari Karipuro

Jason Brunton wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004 about following:

> Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
> -"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 

Keep on jumpin is excellent track, although played to death - more 
importantly, it's a great cover of musique's track from '79. (and in my 
books, last good release by todd terry)


sakke
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Regis - Toxic, Spears, Last week...



I've been reading that quite a few people have been playing this!
well, Gilles Peterson and also Ross Allen (as just mentioned here).

what's the deal, is it neptunes production or something, don't think I even
heard it.

or is it just a load of rubbish?

Quite a few 'trendy' manc dj's went through a Justin Timberlake phase not
long ago.



yeah none of the above is excusable.

timberfake pfff

and weatherall digging that rachel stevens track is equally bad.

people will be saying kylie is ok next...


robin...

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

On or may be off topic, can we give this Garnier beating a rest for a while. or 
at least a week.

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>What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
>Favourite DJ play???

Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.

I hate the prodigy.
In fact I hate everything, it's all rubbish.

Alex

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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Brendan>Kenny Larkin, despite playing a very good set overall, dropped one
or
>tracks in Liverpool a few months back that were so bad I had to
>walk off the dancefloor. The problem is, I don't remember what they
>were...

I remember very little from that night..!

But, while we're on the subject of Kenny Larkin in Liverpool.

Was he just playing records that night? I'm sure he had a re-edit of Never
On Sunday "Journey"
(or he was being clever with an fx box). or was he playing cd's or with a
lap-top?
anyone else seen him on his 'tour'?

Scott - can you remember? or anyone?

Alex
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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

It's a gospel record, too, not a love song, as well. It's about going 
'home'. I didn't realise that 'til it was pointed out to me.

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>Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 1:49 AM
>

> Another great house tune!
> You guys just don't like a techno DJ playing house
>
>
> 
>
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> To: 'Jason Brunton'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Mills - Kings Of Tomorrow - Finally @ Lost 10th Anniversary.
>
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> Sent: 06 May 2004 3:38
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Here's a fun game to play.
>
> What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> Favourite DJ play???
>
>
> Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not
> the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and
> Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's
> -"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th
> birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!
>
> cheers
>
> Jason
> On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
>>> but it more than made up for what I
>>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night
>>> before.
>>
>> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>>
>> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny,
>> Horny"
>> etc...
>> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>>
>> Alex
>
>
>
>

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Hey, they can play House all they wantas long as it's DETROIT house  
:)


Jason


On 6 May 2004, at 16:49, Robert Taylor wrote:


Another great house tune!
You guys just don't like a techno DJ playing house




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Mills - Kings Of Tomorrow - Finally @ Lost 10th Anniversary.

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Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
Favourite DJ play???


Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




but it more than made up for what I
thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night
before.


What sort of stuff was he playing?

I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny,
Horny"
etc...
(is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!

Alex




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>Regis - Toxic, Spears, Last week...

I've been reading that quite a few people have been playing this!
well, Gilles Peterson and also Ross Allen (as just mentioned here).

what's the deal, is it neptunes production or something, don't think I even
heard it.

or is it just a load of rubbish?

Quite a few 'trendy' manc dj's went through a Justin Timberlake phase not
long ago.

Alex


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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Brendan Nelson

I like "Disco's Revenge" as well! (although I prefer it heavily 
pitched up... :)

Kenny Larkin, despite playing a very good set overall, dropped one or
tracks in Liverpool a few months back that were so bad I had to 
walk off the dancefloor. The problem is, I don't remember what they 
were...

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Disco's Revenge is a good tune!
I've never heard anyone play something exceptionally bad, except the 
aforementioned breaks that Garnier was playing.
Saunderson played some Intec [EMAIL PROTECTED]/'stadium techno' at the last 
Lost, but I can't think of anything that was truly awful

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Another great house tune!
You guys just don't like a techno DJ playing house 

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Mills - Kings Of Tomorrow - Finally @ Lost 10th Anniversary.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???

Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex

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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread placid

Hey,  I like that.

Mills - Kings Of Tomorrow - Finally @ Lost 10th Anniversary.

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Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???

Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Nah- this isn't good enough- I want COLD HARD FACTS- names taken, blame 
fully apportioned :)



Jason



On 6 May 2004, at 15:46, Dan Bean wrote:

Hearing Luke Slater play way too much electroclash bobbins a couple of 
weeks ago was pretty depressing.


You wrote:

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Disco's Revenge is a good tune!
I've never heard anyone play something exceptionally bad, except the 
aforementioned breaks that Garnier was playing.
Saunderson played some Intec [EMAIL PROTECTED]/'stadium techno' at the last 
Lost, but I can't think of anything that was truly awful

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???

Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Regis - Toxic, Spears, Last week...

Re: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Hearing Luke Slater play way too much electroclash bobbins a couple of weeks 
ago was pretty depressing.

You wrote:
> Here's a fun game to play.
> 
> What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
> Favourite DJ play???
> 
> 
> Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
> the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
> Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
> -"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
> birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!
> 
> cheers
> 
> Jason
> On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >
> >> but it more than made up for what I
> >> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
> >> before.
> >
> > What sort of stuff was he playing?
> >
> > I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> > Horny"
> > etc...
> > (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
> >
> > Alex
> 
>

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

If jazz is the teacher, is techno the preacher?
;)

There was such furore when D May played the Bucketheads once, and then
lately a Tim Deluxe remix, one track, kids (actually my friends) get over
it! ;) He he.

I have guilty pleasures too, like I enjoy blasting that cheesy Junior Jack
album (I got a review copy 'kay?) while I work as I work faster. And I liked
a David Guetta song, especially his Heroes mix.  And I love that Neptunes
remix of Daft Punk's Harder... I probably wouldn't play them out though.
 ;) I think we should all 'FESS up!!!

By the way, to all the fans of OutKast, and the like, on the list, please
check out the amazing Cee-Lo Green album, crazy stuff. As cool as Common's
Electric Circus.

--
>From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London
>Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 12:37 AM
>

> Here's a fun game to play.
>
> What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
> Favourite DJ play???
>
>
> Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not
> the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and
> Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's
> -"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th
> birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!
>
> cheers
>
> Jason
> On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>
>>> but it more than made up for what I
>>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night
>>> before.
>>
>> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>>
>> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny,
>> Horny"
>> etc...
>> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>>
>> Alex
>

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


>What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your
>Favourite DJ play???

Well, he's neither my favourite dj, or detroit legend, but to be on topic,
how's about Laurent Garnier playing that Prodigy track - what's all that
about? It was never a good record, nor is it topical in anyway.

I hate the prodigy.
In fact I hate everything, it's all rubbish.

Alex


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2004-05-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)

Mills - Kings Of Tomorrow - Finally @ Lost 10th Anniversary.

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From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 May 2004 3:38 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???

Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!

cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>> but it more than made up for what I
>> thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
>> before.
>
> What sort of stuff was he playing?
>
> I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
> Horny"
> etc...
> (is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!
>
> Alex

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Here's a fun game to play.

What's the WORST track you've ever heard a Detroit Legend/ Your 
Favourite DJ play???



Mine would be a close tie between Larry Heard playing Anastasia (not 
the Prince song!) at the Trackmode party in Detroit a few years ago and 
Juan Atkins playing Gusto- "Disco's Revenge" and then Todd Terry's 
-"Keep On Jumpin'" immediately afterwards at the Sub Club's 10th 
birthday bash, but I'm sure somebody else can top that!


cheers

Jason
On 6 May 2004, at 13:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




but it more than made up for what I
thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night 
before.


What sort of stuff was he playing?

I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, 
Horny"

etc...
(is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!

Alex

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson

Watch out for mooses

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KS will be playing in Winnipeg this weekend for the first time, and I'll be 
driving him about town.  Anyone care to share any stories or advice?

K.

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Pascoe Mr S M


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


but it more than made up for what I
thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night before.
   



What sort of stuff was he playing?

He played some stuff on Salsoul, but just didn't really go anywhere with 
it; some later Prelude or West End would've been a nice progression from 
that (IMHO).


sImon

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Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


>but it more than made up for what I
>thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night before.

What sort of stuff was he playing?

I remember hearing him play that chart classic "I'm Horny, Horny, Horny"
etc...
(is that Mousse T) when I heard him last!

Alex
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

I think it was Rusty Waters and if I remember ok he played a better set than 
KDJ!!!

Plastic People is IMO the best club in London, by a long way.

-Original Message-
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To: Robert Taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

You wrote:
> you just have to h=
> ear disco on that amazing system (the vocals especially sound so crisp on=
>  it).

Oh yes! coudn't agree more - absolutely blinding. Best example that I heard of 
that was the guy supporting KDJ there (Rusty Waters? sorry have terrible 
memory, is this correct anyone?). He played some absolutely amazing tunes - I 
danced my *ss off, one of those rare occassions when I was too lost in music to 
even go and ask what the tracks where. Clearly there's still hope for us 
anoraks!

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Pascoe Mr S M

I have to agree with Paul and Brendan , CC was definitely on form on 
Sunday, streets ahead of his last Plastic People appearance. I was 
wondering what sort of direction he was going to take after Ross Allen's 
set, as Ross seemed to be playing everything from West London breaks to 
Britney Spears.


There seemed to be an air of expectancy and some trepidation waiting for 
Carl. When he came on and grabbed the mic, he said "I'd like to thank 
Ross Allen for the London experience, but maybe not for the Britney 
Spears experience". Then Carl proceeded to rock it from the off. At 
about that time a few of the usual UK 313 suspects  seemed to appear out 
of thin air and the night definitely stepped up a gear. My version of 
events also gets blurry after that, but it more than made up for what I 
thought was a disappointing set from Kevin Saunderson the night before.


sImon


Brendan Nelson wrote:

I'd definitely agree with Paul that it was one of the best 
sets I've seen him play, especially in the last few years. 
It beat his appearance at Plastic People hands down, IMHO. 
You could probably sum up his set by saying it was harder 
and more "techno" than he typically plays these days, but 
as it's Carl Craig we're talking about, I shouldn't have 
to point out that this doesn't mean he was just banging it 
out - the same level of subtlety, intricacy and variation that 
you'd expect from Carl was on display. 

The interplay between us on the dancefloor and Carl on the 
decks was working really well, he seemed to feed off the 
crowd's energy a lot, and of course we were feeding quite 
nicely off of his frankly stunning set!


I had been umming and aaahing about heading down there right 
up until the last minute, and in the end I arrived about two 
minutes before Carl Craig's set began. By the end of the night 
I was seriously glad I'd decided not to flake out - I'd have 
been kicking myself to have missed a set that good...


Brendan

-Original Message-
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Sent: 06 May 2004 10:53
To: Robert Taylor; Dan Bean; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Yeah I went with Gary & Dan from the list and Carl rocked at the Nuphonic party 
on Sunday. Great venue, some strange place at the Top of Kings X with really cool 
staff.

Carl came on a bit late but as soon as he put his first records on he took the pace a step up, he played some of his own re mixes (jaguar sticks in my mind), some really cool tracks on wave and I do remember that his last track was the new UR 12" wind chime. Apart from that its all a bit of a blur, but think its one of the best sets I've seen him play and defo the best of the last few years. 


Sorry not a great report but you how it can be.!!!

PK
 


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oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?


i've seen a final scratch set (from richie hawtin) and i couldn't tell
it was mp3s.

this could be for a few reasons. high bitrate encoding, using full wavs
(like u do in Ableton Live) or just having properly
recorded/normalised/non-clipped audio files.

y'know this is one of the probs of digital djing, most djs don't know
anything about sound levels etcwhy is it i see so many djs running
levels way in the red, boosting eqs way too much etcsorry pet peeve.
if you approach sound like this in the digital realm then it's no
surpise that when a dj encodes his/her vinyl it's gonna sound rubbish.


robin...

Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London




oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?


i've seen a final scratch set (from richie hawtin) and i couldn't tell 
it was mp3s.


this could be for a few reasons. high bitrate encoding, using full wavs 
(like u do in Ableton Live) or just having properly 
recorded/normalised/non-clipped audio files.


y'know this is one of the probs of digital djing, most djs don't know 
anything about sound levels etcwhy is it i see so many djs running 
levels way in the red, boosting eqs way too much etcsorry pet peeve.
if you approach sound like this in the digital realm then it's no 
surpise that when a dj encodes his/her vinyl it's gonna sound shti.



robin...

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

You wrote:
> you just have to h=
> ear disco on that amazing system (the vocals especially sound so crisp on=
>  it).

Oh yes! coudn't agree more - absolutely blinding. Best example that I heard of 
that was the guy supporting KDJ there (Rusty Waters? sorry have terrible 
memory, is this correct anyone?). He played some absolutely amazing tunes - I 
danced my *ss off, one of those rare occassions when I was too lost in music to 
even go and ask what the tracks where. Clearly there's still hope for us 
anoraks!

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


thanks Rob & Dan, have always been a bit curious about those parties..

p.s. Rob, I'm dying to hear that Plastic People soundsystem, always heard
everybody say how good it is.
One day! (I hope)
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)

Agreed, it was wicked. 

Personally, however, I would prefer to hear much more contemporary stuff at
those parties, alongside the new stuff. Although you don't know "what's
coming next" you can safely say that you've probably heard it before.

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To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
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Rob said-

"there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200 in
there"

Thats what made that party

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

I enjoyed the last Space Base before Xmas and had a fantastic time - quite
an obvious choice of disco and house classics (Relight My Fire, Let No Man
Put Asunder, There But For The Grace Of God etc) plus a number of
not-so-obscurities (check the Choice tracklisting for examples) - I'm sure
you could get better disco at a dedicated disco night but it was at Plastic
People, there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200
in there, lots of friendly faces around, so I had a great time pretending to
be a train ("choo! choo!") to Moskow Disco - you just have to hear disco on
that amazing system (the vocals especially sound so crisp on it).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rob:
> Not much good was said about Saunderson's performance (on FS) but
apparen=
Dan:
>LOL - things aren't normally that way round! Wasn't actually able to go
anyway, but was sceptical about the LOST >non-techno angle after going to
one of their Christmas Dos at Bridge & Tunnel. Seem to remember getting a
proper >flaming from spw (sadly missed - not!) for complaining about the
lazy sets at this event ( a couple of years ago >now).

Just out of interest, what are they like these non techno lost parties? I
always fancied going to one.
also, a bit curious, when you say lazy, do you mean they just busted out
the generic disco/funk classics, or?

oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?

Thanks!

Alex
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Rob said-

"there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200 in there"

Thats what made that party

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I enjoyed the last Space Base before Xmas and had a fantastic time - quite an 
obvious choice of disco and house classics (Relight My Fire, Let No Man Put 
Asunder, There But For The Grace Of God etc) plus a number of 
not-so-obscurities (check the Choice tracklisting for examples) - I'm sure you 
could get better disco at a dedicated disco night but it was at Plastic People, 
there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200 in there, 
lots of friendly faces around, so I had a great time pretending to be a train 
("choo! choo!") to Moskow Disco - you just have to hear disco on that amazing 
system (the vocals especially sound so crisp on it).

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

Rob:
> Not much good was said about Saunderson's performance (on FS) but
apparen=
Dan:
>LOL - things aren't normally that way round! Wasn't actually able to go
anyway, but was sceptical about the LOST >non-techno angle after going to
one of their Christmas Dos at Bridge & Tunnel. Seem to remember getting a
proper >flaming from spw (sadly missed - not!) for complaining about the
lazy sets at this event ( a couple of years ago >now).

Just out of interest, what are they like these non techno lost parties? I
always fancied going to one.
also, a bit curious, when you say lazy, do you mean they just busted out
the generic disco/funk classics, or?

oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?

Thanks!

Alex
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

> Just out of interest, what are they like these non techno lost parties? I
> always fancied going to one.
> also, a bit curious, when you say lazy, do you mean they just busted out
> the generic disco/funk classics, or?

That kind of sums it up for me, but I've only been to one, with Steve Bicknell, 
Mills and Luke Slater playing. I'd heard a lot of the tracks before, which is 
no bad thing in itself, but they were played without verve, passion or skill to 
my ears. My mates could have done as good a job!

However, two other problems came into play: Firstly, Bridge & Tunnel was a 
terrible choice of venue for that kind of thing, very hard to get down in there 
since it's so long and narrow. Secondly, a friend of mine had just given me a 
copy of one of Mills's radio shows in his 'Wizard' persona, which blew my tiny 
mind. Since it was advertised as Mills playing older tracks as opposed to 
techno I was expecting something at least a little bit along those lines and 
was sorely dissappointed!

Sounds like the recent one might have been a bit different though...

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

I enjoyed the last Space Base before Xmas and had a fantastic time - quite an 
obvious choice of disco and house classics (Relight My Fire, Let No Man Put 
Asunder, There But For The Grace Of God etc) plus a number of 
not-so-obscurities (check the Choice tracklisting for examples) - I'm sure you 
could get better disco at a dedicated disco night but it was at Plastic People, 
there was a great drunken festive atmosphere and, with less than 200 in there, 
lots of friendly faces around, so I had a great time pretending to be a train 
("choo! choo!") to Moskow Disco - you just have to hear disco on that amazing 
system (the vocals especially sound so crisp on it).

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Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London



Rob:
> Not much good was said about Saunderson's performance (on FS) but
apparen=
Dan:
>LOL - things aren't normally that way round! Wasn't actually able to go
anyway, but was sceptical about the LOST >non-techno angle after going to
one of their Christmas Dos at Bridge & Tunnel. Seem to remember getting a
proper >flaming from spw (sadly missed - not!) for complaining about the
lazy sets at this event ( a couple of years ago >now).

Just out of interest, what are they like these non techno lost parties? I
always fancied going to one.
also, a bit curious, when you say lazy, do you mean they just busted out
the generic disco/funk classics, or?

oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?

Thanks!

Alex
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken

oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound 
ok in a club?

Or WAV files Alex! :-)

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Rob:
> Not much good was said about Saunderson's performance (on FS) but
apparen=
Dan:
>LOL - things aren't normally that way round! Wasn't actually able to go
anyway, but was sceptical about the LOST >non-techno angle after going to
one of their Christmas Dos at Bridge & Tunnel. Seem to remember getting a
proper >flaming from spw (sadly missed - not!) for complaining about the
lazy sets at this event ( a couple of years ago >now).

Just out of interest, what are they like these non techno lost parties? I
always fancied going to one.
also, a bit curious, when you say lazy, do you mean they just busted out
the generic disco/funk classics, or?

oh, and oooh, Final Scratch? is this the one that uses mp3? does that sound
ok in a club?

Thanks!

Alex
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RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

You wrote:
> Not much good was said about Saunderson's performance (on FS) but apparen=
> tly Bicknell was fantastic - not a techno set though

LOL - things aren't normally that way round! Wasn't actually able to go anyway, 
but was sceptical about the LOST non-techno angle after going to one of their 
Christmas Dos at Bridge & Tunnel. Seem to remember getting a proper flaming 
from spw (sadly missed - not!) for complaining about the lazy sets at this 
event ( a couple of years ago now).

BTW, thanks for the report Paul - I think not being able to describe much of 
the evening is definitely a the sign of a good night out ;)

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London

2004-05-06 Thread Brendan Nelson

I'd definitely agree with Paul that it was one of the best 
sets I've seen him play, especially in the last few years. 
It beat his appearance at Plastic People hands down, IMHO. 
You could probably sum up his set by saying it was harder 
and more "techno" than he typically plays these days, but 
as it's Carl Craig we're talking about, I shouldn't have 
to point out that this doesn't mean he was just banging it 
out - the same level of subtlety, intricacy and variation that 
you'd expect from Carl was on display. 

The interplay between us on the dancefloor and Carl on the 
decks was working really well, he seemed to feed off the 
crowd's energy a lot, and of course we were feeding quite 
nicely off of his frankly stunning set!

I had been umming and aaahing about heading down there right 
up until the last minute, and in the end I arrived about two 
minutes before Carl Craig's set began. By the end of the night 
I was seriously glad I'd decided not to flake out - I'd have 
been kicking myself to have missed a set that good...

Brendan

-Original Message-
From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 May 2004 10:53
To: Robert Taylor; Dan Bean; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Yeah I went with Gary & Dan from the list and Carl rocked at the Nuphonic party 
on Sunday. Great venue, some strange place at the Top of Kings X with really 
cool staff.

Carl came on a bit late but as soon as he put his first records on he took the 
pace a step up, he played some of his own re mixes (jaguar sticks in my mind), 
some really cool tracks on wave and I do remember that his last track was the 
new UR 12" wind chime. Apart from that its all a bit of a blur, but think its 
one of the best sets I've seen him play and defo the best of the last few 
years. 

Sorry not a great report but you how it can be.!!!

PK

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 May 2004 11:45
To: Dan Bean; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London


Didn't go but heard great things about Craig - 
http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3227
Paul Kendrick was there, so maybe he will fill you in

RE: (313) Kevin Saunderson & Carl Craig last weekend in London