RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
I don't know but maybe it's a misunderstanding with the remix (10'') of François de Roubaix who is an old composer of movie soundtracks (like the samourai with alain delon) from the 60-70's. mat > > i heard through the grape vine that the vocals on Demented were sampled from > and old french movie. is that true? > > ryan > > > >From: "Mathieu Roussotte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > >Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:45:31 +0200 > > > >IMO it's a good record, but as it has been said there's nothing new. > >It's like the new alaska by L.Garnier (back in the old days). > > > >Innerzone orchestra, a great thing done but > >I wish carl had find another way to create than mixing jazz with techno., > >with regards and respect to all jazz fans. > > > >mat -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
i heard through the grape vine that the vocals on Demented were sampled from and old french movie. is that true? ryan From: "Mathieu Roussotte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:45:31 +0200 IMO it's a good record, but as it has been said there's nothing new. It's like the new alaska by L.Garnier (back in the old days). Innerzone orchestra, a great thing done but I wish carl had find another way to create than mixing jazz with techno., with regards and respect to all jazz fans. mat > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of > >your > >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > > > Alex Bond >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I > think out > >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to > >this day is still making very good records. > > I just bought it too! Can't say I like everything Craig does but heard abt > this and then actually heard it, and to me, it's the bees! Maybe I'm getting > more, errr, demented(?) in my old age but whilst I've really been very happy > to avoid 'looped bangers by numbers,' what I think of as the essence of a > tough techno track - which is really quite an old tradition in techno - was > never problem with that sub-genre in the first place. The problem was too > many lazy or just plain talentless producers. But I will always give a > Surgeon record or anything Downwards a listen, ditto, Rob Hood, Mills, > Sativae, Jamie Liddell (sp?) Landstrumm (proly others who/which I can't > think of right now) ... get the picture? So when I heard CC had done this, > well, we know his rep, his mind (to a v small extent), I expected something > at least half-good, and it is indeed impressive (to me). It's true that it > isn't really bedtime listening/for home use, but that's never been the sole > criteria for a record to be 'good' imho. > > Peace > > k > > (but not whilst it's playing tho' ;-) > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:54 PM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > > > > > > > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of > >your > >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > > > >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think > >out of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and > >to this day is still making very good records. > > > >>I heard tres demented @ > >>dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at > >that. > > > >I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last > >3rd when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a > >re-edit... > > > >I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - > >like a 2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the > >roughness of the whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it > >will sound good on a big rig. > > > >Alex -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
"Mathieu Roussotte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > IMO it's a good record, but as it has been said there's nothing new. > It's like the new alaska by L.Garnier (back in the old days). > > Innerzone orchestra, a great thing done but > I wish carl had find another way to create than mixing jazz with techno., > with regards and respect to all jazz fans. > > mat Innerzone Orchestra was totally different thing and I think there is an obvious reason why Carl uses so many different monikers for his records. Nobody can really expect Carl to do only "bedroom listening stuff" because he did some absolute classic soulful deep listening music. Nobody can expect that Carl only does his future jazz records liek Innerzone or Detroit Experiment. And nobody can expect from Carl that he only does dancefloor stuff like Paerclip People or Tres demented. What I want to say is that he has very different facettes and we should be glad that he releases those different styles. And Carl Craig is not a musical machine, so he can make tracks that might seem not to be genious as usual Music is a question of taste. Arne
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
IMO it's a good record, but as it has been said there's nothing new. It's like the new alaska by L.Garnier (back in the old days). Innerzone orchestra, a great thing done but I wish carl had find another way to create than mixing jazz with techno., with regards and respect to all jazz fans. mat > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of > >your > >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > > > Alex Bond >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I > think out > >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to > >this day is still making very good records. > > I just bought it too! Can't say I like everything Craig does but heard abt > this and then actually heard it, and to me, it's the bees! Maybe I'm getting > more, errr, demented(?) in my old age but whilst I've really been very happy > to avoid 'looped bangers by numbers,' what I think of as the essence of a > tough techno track - which is really quite an old tradition in techno - was > never problem with that sub-genre in the first place. The problem was too > many lazy or just plain talentless producers. But I will always give a > Surgeon record or anything Downwards a listen, ditto, Rob Hood, Mills, > Sativae, Jamie Liddell (sp?) Landstrumm (proly others who/which I can't > think of right now) ... get the picture? So when I heard CC had done this, > well, we know his rep, his mind (to a v small extent), I expected something > at least half-good, and it is indeed impressive (to me). It's true that it > isn't really bedtime listening/for home use, but that's never been the sole > criteria for a record to be 'good' imho. > > Peace > > k > > (but not whilst it's playing tho' ;-) > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:54 PM > >To: 313@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > > > > > > > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of > >your > >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > > > >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think > >out of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and > >to this day is still making very good records. > > > >>I heard tres demented @ > >>dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at > >that. > > > >I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last > >3rd when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a > >re-edit... > > > >I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - > >like a 2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the > >roughness of the whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it > >will sound good on a big rig. > > > >Alex -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
Nope - maybe the least bad. Anyway I like it and I have better taste than you ;-) The best moment has got to be the Drums Suck Mix of Dave Angel's Airbourne - the first time I heard that was a goosebump moment and certainly one of Craig's many finest turns -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:28 PM To: Robert Taylor; Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) But still the worst moment of the cd... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:26 AM To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) Just been listening to Craig's Workout and it certainly works in the mix -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > Alex Bond >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to >this day is still making very good records. I just bought it too! Can't say I like everything Craig does but heard abt this and then actually heard it, and to me, it's the bees! Maybe I'm getting more, errr, demented(?) in my old age but whilst I've really been very happy to avoid 'looped bangers by numbers,' what I think of as the essence of a tough techno track - which is really quite an old tradition in techno - was never problem with that sub-genre in the first place. The problem was too many lazy or just plain talentless producers. But I will always give a Surgeon record or anything Downwards a listen, ditto, Rob Hood, Mills, Sativae, Jamie Liddell (sp?) Landstrumm (proly others who/which I can't think of right now) ... get the picture? So when I heard CC had done this, well, we know his rep, his mind (to a v small extent), I expected something at least half-good, and it is indeed impressive (to me). It's true that it isn't really bedtime listening/for home use, but that's never been the sole criteria for a record to be 'good' imho. Peace k (but not whilst it's playing tho' ;-) >-----Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:54 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > > > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think >out of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and >to this day is still making very good records. > >>I heard tres demented @ >>dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at >that. > >I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last >3rd when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a >re-edit... > >I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - >like a 2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the >roughness of the whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it >will sound good on a big rig. > >Alex _ > >- End of message text > >This e-mail is sent by the above named in their >individual, non-business capacity and is not on >behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > >PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and >other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. >By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring > > > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinio
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
But still the worst moment of the cd... -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:26 AM To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) Just been listening to Craig's Workout and it certainly works in the mix -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > Alex Bond >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to >this day is still making very good records. I just bought it too! Can't say I like everything Craig does but heard abt this and then actually heard it, and to me, it's the bees! Maybe I'm getting more, errr, demented(?) in my old age but whilst I've really been very happy to avoid 'looped bangers by numbers,' what I think of as the essence of a tough techno track - which is really quite an old tradition in techno - was never problem with that sub-genre in the first place. The problem was too many lazy or just plain talentless producers. But I will always give a Surgeon record or anything Downwards a listen, ditto, Rob Hood, Mills, Sativae, Jamie Liddell (sp?) Landstrumm (proly others who/which I can't think of right now) ... get the picture? So when I heard CC had done this, well, we know his rep, his mind (to a v small extent), I expected something at least half-good, and it is indeed impressive (to me). It's true that it isn't really bedtime listening/for home use, but that's never been the sole criteria for a record to be 'good' imho. Peace k (but not whilst it's playing tho' ;-) >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:54 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > > > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think >out of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and >to this day is still making very good records. > >>I heard tres demented @ >>dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at >that. > >I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last >3rd when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a >re-edit... > >I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - >like a 2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the >roughness of the whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it >will sound good on a big rig. > >Alex _ > >- End of message text > >This e-mail is sent by the above named in their >individual, non-business capacity and is not on >behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > >PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and >other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. >By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring > > > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
Just been listening to Craig's Workout and it certainly works in the mix -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > Alex Bond >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to this >day is still making very good records. I just bought it too! Can't say I like everything Craig does but heard abt this and then actually heard it, and to me, it's the bees! Maybe I'm getting more, errr, demented(?) in my old age but whilst I've really been very happy to avoid 'looped bangers by numbers,' what I think of as the essence of a tough techno track - which is really quite an old tradition in techno - was never problem with that sub-genre in the first place. The problem was too many lazy or just plain talentless producers. But I will always give a Surgeon record or anything Downwards a listen, ditto, Rob Hood, Mills, Sativae, Jamie Liddell (sp?) Landstrumm (proly others who/which I can't think of right now) ... get the picture? So when I heard CC had done this, well, we know his rep, his mind (to a v small extent), I expected something at least half-good, and it is indeed impressive (to me). It's true that it isn't really bedtime listening/for home use, but that's never been the sole criteria for a record to be 'good' imho. Peace k (but not whilst it's playing tho' ;-) >-Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:54 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > > > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to this >day is still making very good records. > >>I heard tres demented @ >>dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at >that. > >I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last 3rd >when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a re-edit... > >I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - like a >2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the roughness of the >whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it will sound good on a >big rig. > >Alex >_ > >- End of message text > >This e-mail is sent by the above named in their >individual, non-business capacity and is not on >behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > >PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming >e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and >telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you >give your consent to such monitoring > > > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
>>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > Alex Bond >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to this >day is still making very good records. I just bought it too! Can't say I like everything Craig does but heard abt this and then actually heard it, and to me, it's the bees! Maybe I'm getting more, errr, demented(?) in my old age but whilst I've really been very happy to avoid 'looped bangers by numbers,' what I think of as the essence of a tough techno track - which is really quite an old tradition in techno - was never problem with that sub-genre in the first place. The problem was too many lazy or just plain talentless producers. But I will always give a Surgeon record or anything Downwards a listen, ditto, Rob Hood, Mills, Sativae, Jamie Liddell (sp?) Landstrumm (proly others who/which I can't think of right now) ... get the picture? So when I heard CC had done this, well, we know his rep, his mind (to a v small extent), I expected something at least half-good, and it is indeed impressive (to me). It's true that it isn't really bedtime listening/for home use, but that's never been the sole criteria for a record to be 'good' imho. Peace k (but not whilst it's playing tho' ;-) >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:54 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) > > > >>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of >your >>were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. > >well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out >of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to this >day is still making very good records. > >>I heard tres demented @ >>dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at >that. > >I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last 3rd >when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a re-edit... > >I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - like a >2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the roughness of the >whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it will sound good on a >big rig. > >Alex >_ > >- End of message text > >This e-mail is sent by the above named in their >individual, non-business capacity and is not on >behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > >PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming >e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and >telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you >give your consent to such monitoring > > > >
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
>PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of your >were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. well I guess I'm guilty a little of that. I have to say though I think out of all the detroit 'heads' I feel he has the most consistency, and to this day is still making very good records. >I heard tres demented @ >dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at that. I think it's real rough s**t. I like it. I'm not too keen on the last 3rd when it dives into that mad rave bit. It's crying out for a re-edit... I also think it reminds me big time of Sleezy D I've lost control - like a 2003 version... I guess it's the voices, but it's just the roughness of the whole thing. as someone said yesterday, I reckon it will sound good on a big rig. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
-Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite) hey guys >Hmm sorry but i bought it on sight and after listening i thought it was >a >bit of a waste of money, It is basically a drum track and more made for the >DJ's apparently, not really worth for listening at PG> Cool, some of my faith in this list has restored! I thought all of your were just gaga over anything that carl puts out. I heard tres demented @ dancetracks last night .. It's a damn drum track, and a boring one at that.
Re: (313) New Planet E 12" (& capsite)
hey guys Hmm sorry but i bought it on sight and after listening i thought it was a bit of a waste of money, It is basically a drum track and more made for the DJ's apparently, not really worth for listening at i liked this comment from a good friend who will remain nameless...: "They ripped a bassline of Robert Armani and beats alike Farley JM's "Funking with the drums again" plus on the other side Rolling Stone's "Sympathy for the devil" on 45 rpm... " he was dissing it, sounds good to me tho, i ordered it..:P unrelated, i recently found out capsite.net will soon be no more (or maybe it already is, its not coming up at the moment..). hats off to a fantastic online zine, my favorite since the old days of forcefield, but it even exceeded that, with the video reports, graffiti and art spotlights, online mixes from lots great dj's, loadsa interviews... etc etc. it just had all the right feeling about it too, it's own very nice style that no other online zine came close to. RIP!!! thanks and respect to dr nutcracker and databulk jt _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
