RE: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Keith Tenniswood, long-term accomplice and brother-in-arms of Sir Andrew
Weatherall... did he release anything onhis own bar the Uranium EP ?
Gwendal

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> Ahhh, Rotter's Golf Club - Radioactive Man. Anyone interested in some
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> That said, I can't recommend the Rotter's Golf Club enough
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Re: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Ahhh, Rotter's Golf Club - Radioactive Man. Anyone interested in some
truely driving electro should find and listen to this man.

MEK


That said, I can't recommend the Rotter's Golf Club enough

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Re: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread seth redmond
- you get dull-tech-house nights, you get micro-house nights, you get 
body&soul

nights, you get looped-bangers nights, you get detroit-techno nights... You
don't often get plain old good nights out"


Probably due to the size of the place.
I mean how likely is it you'll end up at any night which doesn't spell out 
it's music policy in advance. And by that I don't mean "would you go to 
it?", but rather, "would you find out about it in a city this size?".


It's pretty hard -usually takes some damned clever flyer design- to get 
across a particular ethic without spelling out the playlist (i.e. 
tech-house, body and soul -whatever) and hence sticking to a particular 
genre, and with the competition being so stiff in London it's hard for 
anything small and interesting to get past those first few nights.


I suppose the exceptions to this are the few people who have the clout / 
credibility to draw a crowd without sticking to one particular style 
(probably Andy Weatherall - again, or Warp's nights). but there aren't 
many...


That said, I can't recommend the Rotter's Golf Club enough

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RE: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread Neil Wallace

i once went and saw billy nasty cos holy ghost was playing alive set before
hand - the live set was excellent (and certainly much more interesting than
billy nasty) anybody know whatever happened to holy ghost? havent seen any
releases or live stuff going down for a while now. also any further info
appreciated - i can remember a live vocalist on some sort of IV drip and
another guy working the sequencer side of things.

cheers

neil

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>  saw Umek on 4 decks at EasternBloc (a record shop) on saturday
> and while what he did was impressive (3 vinyls going at any one point) it
> just wasn't that interesting. i think he was getting at what
> hawtin aims at
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> the moment with layers etc. but it revolves around the same kind of track
> being played back to back with another of that type...
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> gimme bone on 3 decks anyday!
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> That's exactly what was wrong with hearing Billy Nasty, Umek (& his
> 'recycled' mate who's name I can't remember)  on NYE - at times it just
> seems flat and unispiring. I know a few Umek tracks as well so usually it
> helps if you know some of the tunes but it really was a quite forgettable
> set (well, night to honest - musically anyway.)
>  Now with Bone you have a DJ who knows how to mix up the styles and keep
> things interesting! :o)
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Re: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread Gary_Girard

 saw Umek on 4 decks at EasternBloc (a record shop) on saturday
and while what he did was impressive (3 vinyls going at any one point) it
just wasn't that interesting. i think he was getting at what hawtin aims at
at
the moment with layers etc. but it revolves around the same kind of track
being played back to back with another of that type...

gimme bone on 3 decks anyday!

Here,here!

That's exactly what was wrong with hearing Billy Nasty, Umek (& his
'recycled' mate who's name I can't remember)  on NYE - at times it just
seems flat and unispiring. I know a few Umek tracks as well so usually it
helps if you know some of the tunes but it really was a quite forgettable
set (well, night to honest - musically anyway.)
 Now with Bone you have a DJ who knows how to mix up the styles and keep
things interesting! :o)


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Re: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread robin pinning
> I have a theory on London nightlife. It's sort of a concentrate of what
> you'd expect from reading UK press: hyper-fragmented - you get
> dull-tech-house nights, you get micro-house nights, you get body&soul
> nights, you get looped-bangers nights, you get detroit-techno nights... You
> don't often get plain old good nights out (in fact I've had maybe less than
> 10 in 5 years). It's partly to do with that over categorisation for which we
> are infamous here,

yeah i think it stems from the fact that it's kinda necessary to
categorise for the purposes of record buying. trouble is it should stop
there before you play any of it...

a whole set of one type of track is just not interesting to me (and from
the disillusionment i hear) to other people too...

an aside: i saw Umek on 4 decks at EasternBloc (a record shop) on saturday
and while what he did was impressive (3 vinyls going at any one point) it
just wasn't that interesting. i think he was getting at what hawtin aims at at
the moment with layers etc. but it revolves around the same kind of track
being played back to back with another of that type...

gimme bone on 3 decks anyday!

robin...


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Re: [313] uk tech-house/layo & bushwacka

2002-01-30 Thread Jonny McIntosh
I think when "uk tech house" is most appropriate is when it's as you feared,
though there are odd exceptions. Aubrey and his Portsmouth gang spring to
mind, but that's where "uk tech house" seems less fitting. Unfortunately
most London record shops are as bland too, right now. Exceptions are, IMO,
Smallfish and Vinyl Junkies, neither of which exactly hit the mark, meaning
you can spend a long time travelling when record shopping, and Detroit seems
to fall between the two stools unfortunately.

Layo & Bushwacka are excellent examples of how limp tech house can be. They
do veer into some strange "breaks" territory, I think. One of the worst
nights out of my life was at the End when Layo was DJing, when someone or
other didn't turn up. I think he is in someway involved with managing the
club, and I had never heard of either of them outside of their flyers until
recently. Make of that what you will. Unfortunately, it does seem to be the
main techno alternative to "looped bangers".

I have a theory on London nightlife. It's sort of a concentrate of what
you'd expect from reading UK press: hyper-fragmented - you get
dull-tech-house nights, you get micro-house nights, you get body&soul
nights, you get looped-bangers nights, you get detroit-techno nights... You
don't often get plain old good nights out (in fact I've had maybe less than
10 in 5 years). It's partly to do with that over categorisation for which we
are infamous here, partly to do with 2/3 hour sets being the norm and is
then reinforced by the quite subtle exclusiveness that creeps into *all*
"scenes" here. It's very hard to get away from: if you break the mold then
someone'll just name it and tame it within months anyway. Though it's just
dumb: I can understand a producer releasing records that all sound the same,
but a DJ playing a set of them?

> the last days the words 'uk tech house' showed up in some messages.
> This should be popular in london, as an alternative to 'looped bangers'
(or
> something)...
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> But could someone please describe this genre more specific..
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> Is it that boring style with really loud 909 open hihats in between the
> beats?
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> And whats up with detroit techno in london? I went over there last summer
> to visit record shops (I am from Belgium).. and was really amazed that
there
> were so few techno records over there...



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