Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Quest Pond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom Churchill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lee Herrington IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds > its definately a tricky line , writing about techno for those who know AND > those who don't . really hard to describe sounds that are often made just > to sound unlike anything else. Synth terminology shouldn't be out-of-bounds for reviews. We write for an audience that is presumably fairly clued in. If I cite 'overcompression, 'warm pads' or 'square-wave rave tones', I think that even those who aren't producing would at least be able to associate something to the description. Some people who have never seen a sequencer know that Swedish techno invoked the world of overcompression. If you don't use these terms, there is a severe descriptive void that is otherwise very difficult to fill, so there's no communicative ground lost, even if the solution is less-than ideal. Perhaps the jargon of synth/sample terminology is a bit exclusionary, but it's not like envoking music theory, advanced production techniques or circuit jargon. These are the best terms we have to describe sounds that don't have traditional names like 'guitar', piano' or 'harp'. I don't see these descriptions as being any different, and the learning curve to acquaint yourself with these terms is pretty slim. If you want to read about techno, you shouldn't be a technophobe, which doesn't mean you need to be a technophile. At bottom, you can't separate techno criticism from technique. Other musics don't rely on technique in the same way. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds
BAM!!! ZOOM!!! ZIP!!! On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Allen Goodman wrote: > When I was small I had a book filled with onomatopoeias, needless to say > it never came ofmuch use till I became interested in electronic music. Maybe > Ill dig it > up for you. ;) > > its definately a tricky line , writing about techno for those who know > > AND those who don't . really hard to describe sounds that are often > > made just to sound unlike anything else. > > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Quest Pond wrote: > >> > Sent: 05 September 2003 4:49 PM > >> > To: Quest Pond; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 > >> > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > >> > > >> > > >> > Not being a producer or a DJ, I couldn't give two figs how > >> > something is made, I just wanna hear it. Maybe I should give > >> > a sh!t but it bores me when I hear such talk. I wasn't > >> > talking about interviews anyway, I was talking about reviews > >> > and if I can't understand what the reviewer is referring to > >> > when he's talking about "gates" and "flanges", I'm not going > >> > to get a good idea of what it sounds like. Not that I pay > >> > much attention to reviews anyway - I tend to just use them as > >> > a guide to what's out. > >> > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:42 PM > >> > To: Robert Taylor; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 > >> > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > >> > > >> > > >> > I hate to bring this up but i totally disagree with Rob, I > >> > think too many interview are non technical. > >> > > >> > This might be quite controversial but I see little point > >> > about asking producers about the weather, politics and the > >> > club scene. Might it be the case that the main source of > >> > inspiration is racks full of funky analog equipment? Or a mad > >> > sound made by feedback loops? > >> > > >> > What is important is the music and how they made it, not what > >> > colour underwear they have. > >> > > >> > Personally i want equipment and methods, am i the only one > >> > who feels like this? > >> > > >> > > >> > Quest Pond > >> > > >> > > -Original Message- > >> > > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > Sent: 05 September 2003 12:43 PM > >> > > To: Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 > >> > > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > I wondered what that meant - I've always read about "lush > >> > > pads" in techno reviews, especially of Detroit sh!t. > >> > > I hate the fact that many electronic music reviews assume you know > >> > > all about the technology involved in making the music. > >> > > > >> > > -Original Message- > >> > > From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:40 AM > >> > > To: Lee Herrington IV; 313 > >> > > Subject: Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > hi folks. i've read the term, "pad sound", from time to > >> > > time on this > >> > > > list. could someone provide me with a definition of this > >> > > > phrase? > >> > > > >> > > In synthesiser terminology, a pad is a sustained, warm, > >> > > string-like sound > >> > > normally heard in long chords. Synthetic strings, basically... > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > > >> > > Tom > >> > > > >> > > ## > >> > > ### > >> > > Note: > >> > > > >> > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do > >> > > not necessarily represent > >> > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless > >> > > specifically stated. This email > >> > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended > >> > > solely for the use of the > >> > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > >> > > received this email in > >> > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > >> > > Thank You. > >> > > ## > >> > > ### > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ## > >> > ### > >> > Note: > >> > > >> > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do > >> > not necessarily represent > >> > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless > >> > specifically stated. This email > >> > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended > >> > solely for the use of the > >> > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > >> > received this email in > >> > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > Thank You. > >> > ## > >> > ### > >> > > >> > > > > -- > Allen Goodman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.fksche.com > > >
RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds
When I was small I had a book filled with onomatopoeias, needless to say it never came ofmuch use till I became interested in electronic music. Maybe Ill dig it up for you. ;) > its definately a tricky line , writing about techno for those who know > AND those who don't . really hard to describe sounds that are often > made just to sound unlike anything else. > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Quest Pond wrote: >> > Sent: 05 September 2003 4:49 PM >> > To: Quest Pond; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 >> > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? >> > >> > >> > Not being a producer or a DJ, I couldn't give two figs how >> > something is made, I just wanna hear it. Maybe I should give >> > a sh!t but it bores me when I hear such talk. I wasn't >> > talking about interviews anyway, I was talking about reviews >> > and if I can't understand what the reviewer is referring to >> > when he's talking about "gates" and "flanges", I'm not going >> > to get a good idea of what it sounds like. Not that I pay >> > much attention to reviews anyway - I tend to just use them as >> > a guide to what's out. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:42 PM >> > To: Robert Taylor; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 >> > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? >> > >> > >> > I hate to bring this up but i totally disagree with Rob, I >> > think too many interview are non technical. >> > >> > This might be quite controversial but I see little point >> > about asking producers about the weather, politics and the >> > club scene. Might it be the case that the main source of >> > inspiration is racks full of funky analog equipment? Or a mad >> > sound made by feedback loops? >> > >> > What is important is the music and how they made it, not what >> > colour underwear they have. >> > >> > Personally i want equipment and methods, am i the only one >> > who feels like this? >> > >> > >> > Quest Pond >> > >> > > -Original Message- >> > > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Sent: 05 September 2003 12:43 PM >> > > To: Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 >> > > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? >> > > >> > > >> > > I wondered what that meant - I've always read about "lush >> > > pads" in techno reviews, especially of Detroit sh!t. >> > > I hate the fact that many electronic music reviews assume you know >> > > all about the technology involved in making the music. >> > > >> > > -Original Message- >> > > From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:40 AM >> > > To: Lee Herrington IV; 313 >> > > Subject: Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? >> > > >> > > >> > > > hi folks. i've read the term, "pad sound", from time to >> > > time on this >> > > > list. could someone provide me with a definition of this >> > > > phrase? >> > > >> > > In synthesiser terminology, a pad is a sustained, warm, >> > > string-like sound >> > > normally heard in long chords. Synthetic strings, basically... >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > >> > > Tom >> > > >> > > ## >> > > ### >> > > Note: >> > > >> > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do >> > > not necessarily represent >> > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless >> > > specifically stated. This email >> > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended >> > > solely for the use of the >> > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have >> > > received this email in >> > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > Thank You. >> > > ## >> > > ### >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ## >> > ### >> > Note: >> > >> > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do >> > not necessarily represent >> > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless >> > specifically stated. This email >> > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended >> > solely for the use of the >> > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have >> > received this email in >> > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > Thank You. >> > ## >> > ### >> > >> > -- Allen Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fksche.com
RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sounds
its definately a tricky line , writing about techno for those who know AND those who don't . really hard to describe sounds that are often made just to sound unlike anything else. On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Quest Pond wrote: > > Sent: 05 September 2003 4:49 PM > > To: Quest Pond; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 > > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > > > > > > Not being a producer or a DJ, I couldn't give two figs how > > something is made, I just wanna hear it. Maybe I should give > > a sh!t but it bores me when I hear such talk. I wasn't > > talking about interviews anyway, I was talking about reviews > > and if I can't understand what the reviewer is referring to > > when he's talking about "gates" and "flanges", I'm not going > > to get a good idea of what it sounds like. Not that I pay > > much attention to reviews anyway - I tend to just use them as > > a guide to what's out. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Quest Pond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:42 PM > > To: Robert Taylor; Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 > > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > > > > > > I hate to bring this up but i totally disagree with Rob, I > > think too many interview are non technical. > > > > This might be quite controversial but I see little point > > about asking producers about the weather, politics and the > > club scene. Might it be the case that the main source of > > inspiration is racks full of funky analog equipment? Or a mad > > sound made by feedback loops? > > > > What is important is the music and how they made it, not what > > colour underwear they have. > > > > Personally i want equipment and methods, am i the only one > > who feels like this? > > > > > > Quest Pond > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 05 September 2003 12:43 PM > > > To: Tom Churchill; Lee Herrington IV; 313 > > > Subject: RE: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > > > > > > > > > I wondered what that meant - I've always read about "lush > > > pads" in techno reviews, especially of Detroit sh!t. > > > I hate the fact that many electronic music reviews assume you > > > know all about the technology involved in making the music. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:40 AM > > > To: Lee Herrington IV; 313 > > > Subject: Re: (313) Excuse my ignorance... pad sound? > > > > > > > > > > hi folks. i've read the term, "pad sound", from time to > > > time on this > > > > list. could someone provide me with a definition of this phrase? > > > > > > In synthesiser terminology, a pad is a sustained, warm, > > > string-like sound > > > normally heard in long chords. Synthetic strings, basically... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > ## > > > ### > > > Note: > > > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do > > > not necessarily represent > > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless > > > specifically stated. This email > > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended > > > solely for the use of the > > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > > > received this email in > > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Thank You. > > > ## > > > ### > > > > > > > > > > ## > > ### > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do > > not necessarily represent > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless > > specifically stated. This email > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended > > solely for the use of the > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > > received this email in > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > ## > > ### > > > > >
