Re: [313] richie rich
Though Hawtin did make some claim to the name as anyone who remembers the looped sample on his FUSE Technotropic 12 on Plus 8 will remember, it went something like 'and now ladies and gentlemen ri-ri-ri-ri-ri-richie rich' x 20. Another great Richie Rich is of course the characters played by Crazy ole Rik Mayall in both the Filthy Rich and Catflap and Bottom TV shows. Not sure if there's a connection to Hawtin, Third Bass or Ralph Rossario there though. Stewart > Richie Rich was from the UK. However the DJ for Third Bass was also called > Richie Rich, from New York... > ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Subject: Re: [313] richie rich
My bad, the richie rich i mentioned produced some not-so-memorable tunes and is mostly known for his door drama/drug use/murder. Score one for the brits! -p -Original Message- From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 10:12 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Subject: Re: [313] richie rich Richie Rich was from the UK. However the DJ for Third Bass was also called Richie Rich, from New York... BTW Ralphi Rosario did not work with Richie Rich, there was a bootleg mix called You Used to Salsa which mixed Richie Rich's "Salsa House" with Ralphi Rosario's "You Used to Hold Me", which the record company (FFRR) eventually legally released... Cheers Babydiddy --- Maarten Baute wrote on Fri, 13 Sep 2002 about following: > Hi.. > > beginners question.. > > is DJ Richie Rich = Richie Hawtin around 1988 the same Richie Rich that did > the track "salsa house" and worked with Ralphi Rosario?? AFAIK That Richie Rich who did Salsa House is/was New Yorker. Not Hawtin. Sake --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] richie rich
He was also part of the famed peter gatien crew ( owner of limelight/tunnel ) along with project x- keoki - Jenny Talia - Julie Jewels-Larry Tee and mixed in with the famed murder of club kid Michael Alig... oh yes and also one of the first ever bitchy-queen door persons. I never had any problems with him though ;) -p -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:41 AM To: Maarten Baute Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] richie rich Maarten Baute wrote on Fri, 13 Sep 2002 about following: > Hi.. > > beginners question.. > > is DJ Richie Rich = Richie Hawtin around 1988 the same Richie Rich that did > the track "salsa house" and worked with Ralphi Rosario?? AFAIK That Richie Rich who did Salsa House is/was New Yorker. Not Hawtin. sakke -- random rants and links at: http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Subject: Re: [313] richie rich
Maybe there's room for another Richie Rich then. The Hungarian Richie Rich perhaps. -Original Message- From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Subject: Re: [313] richie rich Richie Rich was from the UK. However the DJ for Third Bass was also called Richie Rich, from New York... BTW Ralphi Rosario did not work with Richie Rich, there was a bootleg mix called You Used to Salsa which mixed Richie Rich's "Salsa House" with Ralphi Rosario's "You Used to Hold Me", which the record company (FFRR) eventually legally released... Cheers Babydiddy --- Maarten Baute wrote on Fri, 13 Sep 2002 about following: > Hi.. > > beginners question.. > > is DJ Richie Rich = Richie Hawtin around 1988 the same Richie Rich that did > the track "salsa house" and worked with Ralphi Rosario?? AFAIK That Richie Rich who did Salsa House is/was New Yorker. Not Hawtin. Sake --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Richie Rich was from the UK. However the DJ for Third Bass was also called Richie Rich, from New York... BTW Ralphi Rosario did not work with Richie Rich, there was a bootleg mix called You Used to Salsa which mixed Richie Rich's "Salsa House" with Ralphi Rosario's "You Used to Hold Me", which the record company (FFRR) eventually legally released... Cheers Babydiddy --- Maarten Baute wrote on Fri, 13 Sep 2002 about following: > Hi.. > > beginners question.. > > is DJ Richie Rich = Richie Hawtin around 1988 the same Richie Rich that did > the track "salsa house" and worked with Ralphi Rosario?? AFAIK That Richie Rich who did Salsa House is/was New Yorker. Not Hawtin. Sake --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie rich
Maarten Baute wrote on Fri, 13 Sep 2002 about following: > Hi.. > > beginners question.. > > is DJ Richie Rich = Richie Hawtin around 1988 the same Richie Rich that did > the track "salsa house" and worked with Ralphi Rosario?? AFAIK That Richie Rich who did Salsa House is/was New Yorker. Not Hawtin. sakke -- random rants and links at: http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richie rich
No ritchie rich was effectively a hip hop producer who tried his hand at house and came up with salsa house I know ritchie h used the name 'ritchie rich' on one of his mad mixes from about89 tho > Hi.. > > beginners question.. > > is DJ Richie Rich = Richie Hawtin around 1988 the same Richie Rich that did > the track "salsa house" and worked with Ralphi Rosario?? > > Thanks, > Maarten > > > > --- > Do you know these tracks? > http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples > (taken from various mix tapes) > --- > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Rich
Graylock - C.T.M rmxs - EC: Much like the early description the long player on here simply bangs along for about 6 mins or so, with some 909 snare clap, and dark bass, break down then, in your face comes a nicely abrasive synthline, and some snappy additions to the already dark bassline, more claps, then it gets all mellow like near the end. Rachmad mix basically tears apart the long player, salvaging all the good parts and looping it to death. Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 6/06/00 3:44:31 W. Australia Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > In a message dated 5/06/00 9:47:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > DK remix on drumcode 20. Only thing in the whole set that even made > me > > > > > > > > Was this a track that starts out tribal-ish house and progesses into a > > long > > > lush ambient-ish synth line midway and goes for 10 min +? I'm looking > for > > one > > > track in particular that fits that description. He played it late into > his > > > > > set when he got into the deep house mode. That was a highlight on the > > night > > > he played here. > > > > > > > definitely not the same track, although i'm afraid i can't help > > you... sorry... > > > > matt > > Well apparently the said (possible) track in question is on EC recordings > called CTM remixes by Graylock (Robin Albers) Remixes by Steve Rachmad and > David Spaans. > Anyone care to review this record in the light of my description? > > A_Zed > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Rich
Ryan Heard wrote: > You'd prefer he roll-back to '96? I understand you mean that you were bored > in general.. but it seems that you are underscoring that he adopt a sound > that he's worked through 4 years ago? Was Devo right all along?! hehe > > MY $0.02 :) > > Ryan Heard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ryan, Roll back to 96? Not bloody likely. Do you remember what you played in '96? I do. The idea that I was pushing towards is the style of music. In no way would I state that someone should go back 4 years. Furthermore I heard Ritchie play great minimal last year, and he still does it at the end of his sets. On Decks Fx & 909, my favourite part is when he breaks it down to Stewart Walker, Savvaas Yaatis, Heiko Laux, Maurizio etc. I'm not implying that he go backwards at all. I simply enjoy another side of Ritchie, one that some of us really miss seeing. todd
Re: [313] Richie Rich
In a message dated 6/06/00 3:44:31 W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 5/06/00 9:47:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > DK remix on drumcode 20. Only thing in the whole set that even made me > > > > > Was this a track that starts out tribal-ish house and progesses into a > long > > lush ambient-ish synth line midway and goes for 10 min +? I'm looking for > one > > track in particular that fits that description. He played it late into his > > > set when he got into the deep house mode. That was a highlight on the > night > > he played here. > > > > definitely not the same track, although i'm afraid i can't help > you... sorry... > > matt Well apparently the said (possible) track in question is on EC recordings called CTM remixes by Graylock (Robin Albers) Remixes by Steve Rachmad and David Spaans. Anyone care to review this record in the light of my description? A_Zed
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In a message dated 5/06/00 9:47:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > DK remix on drumcode 20. Only thing in the whole set that even made me > > Was this a track that starts out tribal-ish house and progesses into a long > lush ambient-ish synth line midway and goes for 10 min +? I'm looking for one > track in particular that fits that description. He played it late into his > set when he got into the deep house mode. That was a highlight on the night > he played here. > definitely not the same track, although i'm afraid i can't help you... sorry... matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
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In a message dated 5/06/00 9:47:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Oh yeah last thing, there was one > bassline in Ritchie's set (only one I heard though I left at 11), it was the > DK remix on drumcode 20. Only thing in the whole set that even made me nod > my > head. Was this a track that starts out tribal-ish house and progesses into a long lush ambient-ish synth line midway and goes for 10 min +? I'm looking for one track in particular that fits that description. He played it late into his set when he got into the deep house mode. That was a highlight on the night he played here. A_Zed
Re: [313] Richie Rich
I have to agree with Peter, Ritchie has played better sets. I personally felt that after seeing Mr Hawtin for the fourth time on his DF9 tour that this is quite possibly what I would expect if I were at a rock concert; preprogrammed, uninspired & clinical, just another show. This is the last time I will see Hawtin for a while now. When we had him play for us back in September last year in Pittsburgh (just b4 DF9 came out) I was amazed at what he was doing. Then I heard the cd. It was pretty much the exact same set as Pittsburgh! Then off to the cd release party, another boring straight up techno set, 25 minutes of house at the end with the big 909 rollup to end it all off. The media guys dig it up, but personally I got more out of Theorem that night (you were great Dale!) than Ritchie. Since then everytime I've seen Ritchie its been the same shit. I just keep coming back and hoping that he'll go back and play some of the deep stuff that he's played before. Parties like Minimal (back in 96) and the first few Ritual parties (#1, and #4) were the best sets I've ever heard Ritchie play, and moreover were the ones that kept me on my toes and working hard on my own shit. Oh yeah last thing, there was one bassline in Ritchie's set (only one I heard though I left at 11), it was the DK remix on drumcode 20. Only thing in the whole set that even made me nod my head. my $0.02 todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter B Leidy wrote: > Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I > wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs > some attention: > > Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf? > > I cant speak on the entire performance because I left after the first hour > out of boredom, but that was some of the most boring 4ontheFloor 909 stuff > I've heard in a while. I dont remember a single bassline in any of the > tracks. Most of the synth stuff from the vinyl got buried under the 909 > kick/snare/hihat/ride -which i believe someone did mention briefly as > perhaps a fault of the sound engineer. The builds and snare rolls were > cheesy and formulated crowd pleasers and I think even the crowd was > getting bored of them after the first five or six. > > Now I hate badmouthing mr hawtin, as i have heard and seen him do plenty > of great things for the music community, and I have enjoyed a handful > of his sets via detroit parties around '94-95. It was even quite > impressive watching him juggle all his stuff at demf and do 909 > programming on the fly, but the outcome just seemed pretty boring. Not > even any of those trademark plastikman funky rimshot rhythms. just > kick,snare,hihat,ride- w/ very little variety in the different beats. > > Perhaps I am missing something conceptually behind this 'cause I dont > really know anything about his ideas for doing the decks/efx/909 thing, > and I may be overlooking some fundamental part to this stuff- I've never > been too into the bangin' 4ontheFloor stuff as much anyways- so perhaps > I'm not the best critic of it. > > I think just after hearing a lot of great music from derrick w/ plenty of > soul and tribally rhythm stuff going on, the 909 just couldn't follow it > up for me. > > comments please... > > -p > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Rich
>I'll back you up on that. I think what made the set fun was general vibe. >I've personally always thought Richie's stuff has always sounded a tad >mechanical but lots of people like that and thats cool. I bought that last >CD and will never buy another Hawtin CD ever. Just too mechanical lacked >any real creative substance. Don't let that mix-CD put you off. Richie is quite diverse. I had the same feeling when I saw him this year at Two Tribes in Melbourne with Carola and Gaetek (whom he enjoyed afterwards since he stayed) - it was the first time I had experienced his DJing. I just wasn't feeling Richie at all. To be honest, I thought, how is it that people rave about this guy, he is all technique, there's no expression, he's a techno android. But I think he was playing to a big, young crowd who were just there for bangin' stuff. Maybe in a smaller venue. I wandered off to check out David Morales and Roger Sanchez in the end and felt a little heretical for it, then came back. But I really like the guy's outlook, he is very interesting in his conceptualism, and his later Plastikman work is quite soulful, or interestingly anti-soul (not sure which). C
Re: [313] Richie Rich
I'll back you up on that. I think what made the set fun was general vibe. I've personally always thought Richie's stuff has always sounded a tad mechanical but lots of people like that and thats cool. I bought that last CD and will never buy another Hawtin CD ever. Just too mechanical lacked any real creative substance. I will say however that it inspired me to purchase that new Pioneer effects processor. Wicked!. Miles
Re: [313] Richie Rich
I felt exactly the same way when he played for four hours in Iowa City. Unfortunately I missed him @ DEMF, although I guess I didn't miss much??? I posted this about Adam Beyer after seeing T1000 and Hawtin here, but it's mostly about Hawtin: >>> this whole discussion reminds me of how I felt about Hawtin and DJ-T1000 when I saw them in Iowa City on separate occasions this spring. I haven't heard Beyer spin, but hear he's very good. However, if it's anything like Hawtin (who is undeniably a technical master), I think I would have the same longing for some kind of melody and drum loops that last more than a bar. As I understand it, this is typical of the European techno DJing style. I don't even feel motivated to dance once the drone sets in. Since seeing Alan spin, I've read his posts with a sense of awe, in that he tends to be the designated advocate for beating techno sets, but his performance here was as funky as any I've heard (I think he clarifies his feelings on this below). He plays music with a funk core, but still tends to have aggressive beats. I did not get the same feeling from Hawtin at all. While I can marvel at what he doing with the raw materials, I don't particularly care for them. Seeing him spin was very cerebral for me, but I don't suspect this would be true for a non-DJ, or someone who doesn't know what it takes to create flawlessly at that speed. I think I have a pretty unusual feeling about this, because it's not often that beats will make me dance. I have to be into the music on some mental level before my body will respond. However, I have a purely artistic interest in watching and listening to someone beat records I don't care for, and tend to enjoy this without dancing. Weird?<<< Tristan == PHONOPSIA<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm "FrogboyMCI" on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, "Propper Techno" and new Album, "Québécois", online now. -Original Message- From: Peter B Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:41 PM Subject: [313] Richie Rich >Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I >wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs >some attention: > >Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf? > >I cant speak on the entire performance because I left after the first hour >out of boredom, but that was some of the most boring 4ontheFloor 909 stuff >I've heard in a while. I dont remember a single bassline in any of the >tracks. Most of the synth stuff from the vinyl got buried under the 909 >kick/snare/hihat/ride -which i believe someone did mention briefly as >perhaps a fault of the sound engineer. The builds and snare rolls were >cheesy and formulated crowd pleasers and I think even the crowd was >getting bored of them after the first five or six. > >Now I hate badmouthing mr hawtin, as i have heard and seen him do plenty >of great things for the music community, and I have enjoyed a handful >of his sets via detroit parties around '94-95. It was even quite >impressive watching him juggle all his stuff at demf and do 909 >programming on the fly, but the outcome just seemed pretty boring. Not >even any of those trademark plastikman funky rimshot rhythms. just >kick,snare,hihat,ride- w/ very little variety in the different beats. > >Perhaps I am missing something conceptually behind this 'cause I dont >really know anything about his ideas for doing the decks/efx/909 thing, >and I may be overlooking some fundamental part to this stuff- I've never >been too into the bangin' 4ontheFloor stuff as much anyways- so perhaps >I'm not the best critic of it. > >I think just after hearing a lot of great music from derrick w/ plenty of >soul and tribally rhythm stuff going on, the 909 just couldn't follow it >up for me. > >comments please... > >-p > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Richie Rich
On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Peter B Leidy wrote: > Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I > wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs > some attention: > > Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf? yes, I agree. I wasn't into richie's set either. He played in total 3 tracks that got my head bobbin' and they were songs that I've heard many times...vainquer, 69 and vapourspace. I thought out of respect they would let dmay play last. The crowd was into it nontheless, but I think richie would have impressed me and others more if he played music with melodies and deeper songs that were more than just 2 bar loops which he pretty much played. Taking nothing away from richie, I've heard rich play great house music for 3 hours with unreal acid tracks and techno by armando, mike dunn and phuture. listen to some of those archives...people like shake, theo parrish, buzz goree, and fannon flowers played more interesting sets. minto
