RE: Date entry
> I'm using v16r6 and it won't let me revert to 16.3. Just to clarify, this is likely because object notation has been enabled; which essentially upgrades the structure file from v16 to v17, making it unable to be opened in v16 afterwards. See this image and the warning about it not being able to be undone: http://kb.4d.com/kbase/assets/images/77824-1.jpg -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Date entry
Pat: I was a lot of work. Especially going through a large application and changing it all over. We got forced into it by regulation of supporting different date formats across different government regulatory regions. So we decided to just do it the flexible way and provide many more features than needed. I noticed when training new users how I felt the relief on not having to continually remind them of the date format. Now with our new business, most certainly starting over with our shell and having this from the beginning of each new project is much easier. Jody > On Jul 5, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Jody - yes I can follow all that, no problem :) > Sounds like a fair bit of work though, which I would prefer to avoid ... > > PB > > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Date entry
Thanks Jody - yes I can follow all that, no problem :) Sounds like a fair bit of work though, which I would prefer to avoid ... PB On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 15:37, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Pat: > > In Canada every possible date format was used by different clients. > Therefore we had to write our own date handler. Essentially we handle it > this way: > > 1. We let the system administrator set the format for all dates to be > displayed. This includes all the ways 4D has built in way, but also in > other ways that silly Canadians have dreamt up. > > 2. Where ever a date is displayed we use a Alphanumeric variable. We take > the date as stored by 4D and we run it through our utility method to create > a string in the format that the system administrator has set it to display. > In this way no matter how a workstation is configured, the date is always > displayed in a consistent format in our system. > > 3. The next nasty issue is date entry. For this we permit two options: > > a) The system administrator sets up an entry filter using our > interface. Nothing fancy, the user must enter a fully formatted date, OR > b) They decide to use our date entry system which makes for very > quick entry of dates. I may be attributing this feature to the wrong person, > but I think I read about it in a Dimensions article by > Dave Baton (anyone correct me if I am wrong). > Over the years we have enhanced it a lot to make date > entries very quick. > The variable on screen where it is entered is a Alpha > variable. They can enter things like T, 5d, 6m, -1W, etc to get a fully > formatted date that > our system will accept to turn into a 4D Date. They can > also enter 2016, or 16 and tab out to get todays date but in 2016. If they > enter 2018-12, they will get > a date for December 12, of the current year. > c) We also have a button to take them to a Calendar ‘widget’ for > the mousers in the user base. > > In all the entry examples above we have a method that runs and > makes a properly formatted date that 4D will accept, place that date in the > database. > The system takes that 4D formatted date, and makes the display > date. > > This certainly adds processing time when displaying thousands of > record in a listbox (i.e. our 1 form Listbox for an output of all tables). > We have fine tuned this > code in our v16 shell so that once compiled it runs along nicely. > 4D version 17 with it’s more intelligent Listbox will speed this up as it > only deals with the rows > that are visible on screen. > > If that makes sense great - if not let me know where I lost you and I will > try to explain better. > > Jody > > > > On Jul 5, 2018, at 4:50 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > > Jody, > > I'm using v16 and having the following problem with date formats: > > On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed > in > > the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK > > format! > > > > How do you manage this? > > > > Pat > > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Bob: > >> > >> Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the > >> date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date > fields, > >> but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it > >> does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The > format > >> set in the application controls the display of the date. It also > resulted > >> in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of > >> doing thing in v16. > >> > >> Jody > >> > >> > >>> On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < > >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 > >>> > >>> A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working > >> fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they > >> scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, > sometimes > >> when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard > instead > >> of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. > >>> > >>> Dates display fine, regardless o
Re: Date entry
Pat: In Canada every possible date format was used by different clients. Therefore we had to write our own date handler. Essentially we handle it this way: 1. We let the system administrator set the format for all dates to be displayed. This includes all the ways 4D has built in way, but also in other ways that silly Canadians have dreamt up. 2. Where ever a date is displayed we use a Alphanumeric variable. We take the date as stored by 4D and we run it through our utility method to create a string in the format that the system administrator has set it to display. In this way no matter how a workstation is configured, the date is always displayed in a consistent format in our system. 3. The next nasty issue is date entry. For this we permit two options: a) The system administrator sets up an entry filter using our interface. Nothing fancy, the user must enter a fully formatted date, OR b) They decide to use our date entry system which makes for very quick entry of dates. I may be attributing this feature to the wrong person, but I think I read about it in a Dimensions article by Dave Baton (anyone correct me if I am wrong). Over the years we have enhanced it a lot to make date entries very quick. The variable on screen where it is entered is a Alpha variable. They can enter things like T, 5d, 6m, -1W, etc to get a fully formatted date that our system will accept to turn into a 4D Date. They can also enter 2016, or 16 and tab out to get todays date but in 2016. If they enter 2018-12, they will get a date for December 12, of the current year. c) We also have a button to take them to a Calendar ‘widget’ for the mousers in the user base. In all the entry examples above we have a method that runs and makes a properly formatted date that 4D will accept, place that date in the database. The system takes that 4D formatted date, and makes the display date. This certainly adds processing time when displaying thousands of record in a listbox (i.e. our 1 form Listbox for an output of all tables). We have fine tuned this code in our v16 shell so that once compiled it runs along nicely. 4D version 17 with it’s more intelligent Listbox will speed this up as it only deals with the rows that are visible on screen. If that makes sense great - if not let me know where I lost you and I will try to explain better. Jody > On Jul 5, 2018, at 4:50 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Jody, > I'm using v16 and having the following problem with date formats: > On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed in > the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK > format! > > How do you manage this? > > Pat > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> Bob: >> >> Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the >> date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date fields, >> but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it >> does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The format >> set in the application controls the display of the date. It also resulted >> in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of >> doing thing in v16. >> >> Jody >> >> >>> On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >>> >>> 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 >>> >>> A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working >> fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they >> scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, sometimes >> when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard instead >> of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. >>> >>> Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of machines, >> you can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the field, >> and type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing >> changes. So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the >> entry there. Started a couple of weeks ago. >>> >>> So, why, and how to fix it? >>> >>> Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it is >> displayed, but still no entry. >>> >>> _ >>> Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com < >> http://www.mswl.com/> >>
Re: Date entry
I am not using anything near v16... but have you tried to explicitly set the display format for the date areas during On Load, using code? set object format(*"object_name";Date_format) On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:43:55 +0100, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech wrote: > Thanks Wayne. > I'm using v16r6 and it won't let me revert to 16.3. I don't think v17 is > ready for prime time yet ... Grrr! So, anybody got a suggestion for a > workaround? > > PB > > On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 12:23, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> Pat, >> >> There’s a 4D bug regarding dates. >> >> What version of v16 are you using? The latest nightly builds of v16 dot >> releases should be fine. >> >> If you’re using 16r something, then it’s fixed in v17. >> >> Wayne >> >> On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 20:50, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Jody, >>> I'm using v16 and having the following problem with date formats: >>> On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed >> in >>> the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK >>> format! >>> >>> How do you manage this? >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech < >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Bob: >>>> >>>> Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the >>>> date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date >>> fields, >>>> but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it >>>> does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The >>> format >>>> set in the application controls the display of the date. It also >> resulted >>>> in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of >>>> doing thing in v16. >>>> >>>> Jody >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < >>>> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 >>>>> >>>>> A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been >> working >>>> fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they >>>> scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, >>> sometimes >>>> when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard >> instead >>>> of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. >>>>> >>>>> Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of >> machines, >>>> you can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the >> field, >>>> and type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing >>>> changes. So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the >>>> entry there. Started a couple of weeks ago. >>>>> >>>>> So, why, and how to fix it? >>>>> >>>>> Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it >>> is >>>> displayed, but still no entry. >>>>> >>>>> _ >>>>> Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com < >>>> http://www.mswl.com/> >>>>> McKeever's Software Wizardry >>>>> Port Coquitlam, B.C. >>>>> bobmckee...@mac.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> ** >>>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >>>> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >>>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >>>> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >>>> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >>>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> * >>> CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing >>> tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 >>> w: http://www.catbase.com >>> skype: pat.bensky >>> * >>>
Re: Date entry
Thanks Wayne. I'm using v16r6 and it won't let me revert to 16.3. I don't think v17 is ready for prime time yet ... Grrr! So, anybody got a suggestion for a workaround? PB On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 12:23, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Pat, > > There’s a 4D bug regarding dates. > > What version of v16 are you using? The latest nightly builds of v16 dot > releases should be fine. > > If you’re using 16r something, then it’s fixed in v17. > > Wayne > > On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 20:50, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > Jody, > > I'm using v16 and having the following problem with date formats: > > On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed > in > > the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK > > format! > > > > How do you manage this? > > > > Pat > > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Bob: > > > > > > Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the > > > date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date > > fields, > > > but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it > > > does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The > > format > > > set in the application controls the display of the date. It also > resulted > > > in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of > > > doing thing in v16. > > > > > > Jody > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < > > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 > > > > > > > > A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been > working > > > fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they > > > scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, > > sometimes > > > when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard > instead > > > of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. > > > > > > > > Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of > machines, > > > you can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the > field, > > > and type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing > > > changes. So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the > > > entry there. Started a couple of weeks ago. > > > > > > > > So, why, and how to fix it? > > > > > > > > Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it > > is > > > displayed, but still no entry. > > > > > > > > _ > > > > Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com < > > > http://www.mswl.com/> > > > > McKeever's Software Wizardry > > > > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > > > > bobmckee...@mac.com > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > > ** > > > > > > > > -- > > * > > CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing > > tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 > > w: http://www.catbase.com > > skype: pat.bensky > > * > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > > -- > > Regards, > > Wayne > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- * CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 w: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Date entry
Pat, There’s a 4D bug regarding dates. What version of v16 are you using? The latest nightly builds of v16 dot releases should be fine. If you’re using 16r something, then it’s fixed in v17. Wayne On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 20:50, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Jody, > I'm using v16 and having the following problem with date formats: > On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed in > the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK > format! > > How do you manage this? > > Pat > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > > > wrote: > > > Bob: > > > > Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the > > date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date > fields, > > but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it > > does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The > format > > set in the application controls the display of the date. It also resulted > > in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of > > doing thing in v16. > > > > Jody > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > > 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 > > > > > > A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working > > fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they > > scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, > sometimes > > when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard instead > > of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. > > > > > > Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of machines, > > you can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the field, > > and type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing > > changes. So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the > > entry there. Started a couple of weeks ago. > > > > > > So, why, and how to fix it? > > > > > > Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it > is > > displayed, but still no entry. > > > > > > _ > > > Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com < > > http://www.mswl.com/> > > > McKeever's Software Wizardry > > > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > > > bobmckee...@mac.com > > > > > > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > > > > -- > * > CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing > tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 > w: http://www.catbase.com > skype: pat.bensky > * > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- Regards, Wayne ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Date entry
Jody, I'm using v16 and having the following problem with date formats: On a UK system, dates in fields and list boxes are incorrectly displayed in the US format. But when you click into a date field, it changes to the UK format! How do you manage this? Pat On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 at 15:46, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Bob: > > Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the > date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date fields, > but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it > does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The format > set in the application controls the display of the date. It also resulted > in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of > doing thing in v16. > > Jody > > > > On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 > > > > A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working > fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they > scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, sometimes > when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard instead > of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. > > > > Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of machines, > you can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the field, > and type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing > changes. So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the > entry there. Started a couple of weeks ago. > > > > So, why, and how to fix it? > > > > Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it is > displayed, but still no entry. > > > > _ > > Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com < > http://www.mswl.com/> > > McKeever's Software Wizardry > > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > > bobmckee...@mac.com > > > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- * CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 w: http://www.catbase.com skype: pat.bensky * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Date entry
Well, looks like the form was corrupt. I rebuilt it using one that was similar, and it now works. > On Jun 10, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Bob: > > Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the date > entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date fields, but we > let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it does not > matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The format set in the > application controls the display of the date. It also resulted in some great > tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of doing thing in v16. > > Jody > > >> On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 >> >> A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working fine >> for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they scrounged >> around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, sometimes when the OS >> is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard instead of US. So, >> date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. >> >> Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of machines, you >> can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the field, and >> type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing changes. >> So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the entry there. >> Started a couple of weeks ago. >> >> So, why, and how to fix it? >> >> Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it is >> displayed, but still no entry. >> >> _ >> Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com <http://www.mswl.com/> >> McKeever's Software Wizardry >> Port Coquitlam, B.C. >> bobmckee...@mac.com >> > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** _ Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com <http://www.mswl.com/> McKeever's Software Wizardry Port Coquitlam, B.C. bobmckee...@mac.com ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Date entry
Bob: Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the date entry, and display in 4D. The dates are always stored in date fields, but we let the user define the way the dates get displayed. This way it does not matter what the computer’s region or date settings are. The format set in the application controls the display of the date. It also resulted in some great tools for quick entry of dates. Still loving that way of doing thing in v16. Jody > On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:49 PM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > 4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 > > A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working fine > for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they scrounged > around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, sometimes when the OS > is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard instead of US. So, date > entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. > > Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of machines, you > can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the field, and > type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing changes. > So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the entry there. > Started a couple of weeks ago. > > So, why, and how to fix it? > > Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it is > displayed, but still no entry. > > _ > Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com <http://www.mswl.com/> > McKeever's Software Wizardry > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > bobmckee...@mac.com > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Date entry
4D V15.4, Mac OS 10.13.4 A site that uses 4D Server. Mostly mini’s as clients. Has been working fine for years. Then growth, so someone brought in some PC’s. Then they scrounged around and now all minis. But, since we are in Canada, sometimes when the OS is loaded anew, this select Canadian English keyboard instead of US. So, date entry gets set to -MM-DD instead of MM-DD-. Dates display fine, regardless of format. But, on a couple of machines, you can not enter dates. I take my record, place the cursor in the field, and type - it moves the cursor along the character string, but nothing changes. So, they just go to another machine that ‘works’ and does the entry there. Started a couple of weeks ago. So, why, and how to fix it? Changing the date format in the system preferences changes the way it is displayed, but still no entry. _ Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com <http://www.mswl.com/> McKeever's Software Wizardry Port Coquitlam, B.C. bobmckee...@mac.com ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
