Re: AW: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
The storage pool is 140TB, so not an option. The data I need to move is archive data. I started an export node with just that data, but from the speed of it, it looked like it would take 120 hours or more. I'm going back to my original thinking, and doing move volume tempstg, move nodedata tempstg tapestg, move nodedata diskstg On 6/20/07, CAYE PIERRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If your are not in hurry... What is the total size of your pool ? Up to 6 TB for your problematic node, but how many from other nodes ? Since you are ready to transfert 6Tb : 1- Create a sequential pool 2- migrate from disk to newly created sequential pool 3- move nodedata from this sequential pool to target sequential pool 4- migrate the last data's from this sequential pool back to disk... Hum, not very quick... Thanks Pierre -Message d'origine- De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Salak Juraj Envoyé : mercredi 20 juin 2007 15:17 À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Objet : [ADSM-L] AW: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk If you are not in hurry and your retention periods are not too long, simply update that node´s backup storage groups to point to the new sequential access pool (which is to be done anyway) and have the your6TB in the old random pool expired with the time. Best Juraj -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Andrew Carlson Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2007 19:45 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk This is an idea I had not thought of. Thanks for the tip. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe you could export/import the node. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Andrew Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:45 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > The problem with that, is that it will migrate all date, not just this > one nodes data. > > On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access > > pool, then migrate the data. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > > Of Andrew Carlson > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > > > > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access > disk > > to > > sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random > > access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The > > data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was > > moving data > from > > individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then > > moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential > > access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. > > > > TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 > > > > -- > > Andy Carlson > > > > > -- > - > > Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > > $8.95/month, > > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in > it:Priceless. > > > > > > -- > Andy Carlson > > -- > - Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > $8.95/month, > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. > -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
Re: AW: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
If your are not in hurry... What is the total size of your pool ? Up to 6 TB for your problematic node, but how many from other nodes ? Since you are ready to transfert 6Tb : 1- Create a sequential pool 2- migrate from disk to newly created sequential pool 3- move nodedata from this sequential pool to target sequential pool 4- migrate the last data's from this sequential pool back to disk... Hum, not very quick... Thanks Pierre -Message d'origine- De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Salak Juraj Envoyé : mercredi 20 juin 2007 15:17 À : ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Objet : [ADSM-L] AW: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk If you are not in hurry and your retention periods are not too long, simply update that node´s backup storage groups to point to the new sequential access pool (which is to be done anyway) and have the your6TB in the old random pool expired with the time. Best Juraj -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Andrew Carlson Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2007 19:45 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk This is an idea I had not thought of. Thanks for the tip. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe you could export/import the node. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Andrew Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:45 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > The problem with that, is that it will migrate all date, not just this > one nodes data. > > On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access > > pool, then migrate the data. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > > Of Andrew Carlson > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > > > > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access > disk > > to > > sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random > > access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The > > data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was > > moving data > from > > individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then > > moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential > > access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. > > > > TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 > > > > -- > > Andy Carlson > > > > > -- > - > > Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > > $8.95/month, > > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in > it:Priceless. > > > > > > -- > Andy Carlson > > -- > - Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > $8.95/month, > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. > -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
AW: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
If you are not in hurry and your retention periods are not too long, simply update that node´s backup storage groups to point to the new sequential access pool (which is to be done anyway) and have the your6TB in the old random pool expired with the time. Best Juraj -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Andrew Carlson Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2007 19:45 An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk This is an idea I had not thought of. Thanks for the tip. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe you could export/import the node. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Andrew Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:45 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > The problem with that, is that it will migrate all date, not just this > one nodes data. > > On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access > > pool, then migrate the data. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > > Of Andrew Carlson > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > > > > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access > disk > > to > > sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random > > access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The > > data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was > > moving data > from > > individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then > > moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential > > access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. > > > > TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 > > > > -- > > Andy Carlson > > > > > -- > - > > Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > > $8.95/month, > > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in > it:Priceless. > > > > > > -- > Andy Carlson > > -- > - Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > $8.95/month, > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. > -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden.
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
This is an idea I had not thought of. Thanks for the tip. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe you could export/import the node. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:45 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk The problem with that, is that it will migrate all date, not just this one nodes data. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access pool, > then migrate the data. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Andrew Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access disk > to > sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access > pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is > archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving data from > individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then > moving > nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access > pool. Anyone > have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. > > TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 > > -- > Andy Carlson > > --- > Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > $8.95/month, > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. > -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
It's not our largest node by a long shot. We have several DB2 nodes that are holding upwards of 15TB apiece, and a couple more in the 10TB range. On 6/19/07, Richard Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Carlson wrote: > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random > Access disk to > sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access > pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is > archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving > data from > individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, > then moving > nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access > pool. Anyone > have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. Andy - I would expect that amount of data to represent the largest quantity in the disk storage pool. If that is the case, then allowing the data to migrate down to a node-collocated sequential pool, with MIGPRocess=1 in effect and migration levels lowered, would cause that dominant node's data to be handled first. You could then do Query PRocess periodically to estimate when the data is just about all moved, and then be ready to cancel the process and reset the migration levels once all the node's data is moved. With the destination being a tape pool, the node transition would be apparent, as a partially filled tape would be left as the single process then went on to mount a fresh tape for the next node. In any case, any "overshoot" would be on a separate tape, whereupon you could Move Data that node's data back to the disk stgpool, or wherever. Richard Sims -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
I think you can raise the thresholds right after the migration begins as the single process will move all the data for the largest node before checking the thresholds again. Kelly J. Lipp VP Manufacturing & CTO STORServer, Inc. 485-B Elkton Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-266-8777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:33 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Carlson wrote: > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access > disk to sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on > random access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. > The data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was > moving data from individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential > access pool, then moving nodedata from there to the final destination > sequential access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any > input. Andy - I would expect that amount of data to represent the largest quantity in the disk storage pool. If that is the case, then allowing the data to migrate down to a node-collocated sequential pool, with MIGPRocess=1 in effect and migration levels lowered, would cause that dominant node's data to be handled first. You could then do Query PRocess periodically to estimate when the data is just about all moved, and then be ready to cancel the process and reset the migration levels once all the node's data is moved. With the destination being a tape pool, the node transition would be apparent, as a partially filled tape would be left as the single process then went on to mount a fresh tape for the next node. In any case, any "overshoot" would be on a separate tape, whereupon you could Move Data that node's data back to the disk stgpool, or wherever. Richard Sims
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
On Jun 19, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Carlson wrote: I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access disk to sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving data from individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. Andy - I would expect that amount of data to represent the largest quantity in the disk storage pool. If that is the case, then allowing the data to migrate down to a node-collocated sequential pool, with MIGPRocess=1 in effect and migration levels lowered, would cause that dominant node's data to be handled first. You could then do Query PRocess periodically to estimate when the data is just about all moved, and then be ready to cancel the process and reset the migration levels once all the node's data is moved. With the destination being a tape pool, the node transition would be apparent, as a partially filled tape would be left as the single process then went on to mount a fresh tape for the next node. In any case, any "overshoot" would be on a separate tape, whereupon you could Move Data that node's data back to the disk stgpool, or wherever. Richard Sims
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
Maybe you could export/import the node. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:45 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk The problem with that, is that it will migrate all date, not just this one nodes data. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access pool, > then migrate the data. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Andrew Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk > > > I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access disk > to > sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access > pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is > archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving data from > individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then > moving > nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access > pool. Anyone > have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. > > TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 > > -- > Andy Carlson > > --- > Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: > $8.95/month, > The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. > -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
The problem with that, is that it will migrate all date, not just this one nodes data. On 6/19/07, Thorneycroft, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access pool, then migrate the data. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access disk to sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving data from individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless. -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
Re: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
Set your Sequential access pool as next pool on your random access pool, then migrate the data. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Carlson Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:21 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access disk to sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving data from individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
Moving one nodes date from primary direct access disk
I would like to move about 6TB of data for a node from Random Access disk to sequential accesss. Since move nodedata doesn't work on random access pools, I was wondering if there is an easy way to do it. The data is archive data, and the only plan I could come up with was moving data from individual volumes to a staging area, a sequential access pool, then moving nodedata from there to the final destination sequential access pool. Anyone have any better ideas? Thanks for any input. TSM Server: 5.3.2.3 -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50,Broadband Adapter: $35, Hunters License: $8.95/month, The feeling of seeing the red box with the item you want in it:Priceless.
