Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Yeah, the problem with 900mhz PTP is that unlike 2.4ghz or 5ghz, you can't run any higher power in ptp mode than you can in ptmp, so 2.4ghz often does work better... but there are some cases where 900mhz PTP does make sense. If it's PTP, you definitely don't want the AUX port version, since there's no aux port on those radios, just a standard timing port. I believe the 900mhz 450i SM/PTP is actually based on the original 450 SM hardware (not the 450i... it runs on 24v, for example, which I don't think any other 450i radio does), so my guess is that the changes Forrest is talking about don't apply, and it would work fine with the syncpipes you have, but I'm just guessing. On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 6:52 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > What they did in the 'i' hardware was change the drive strength require. > I'm not sure if that applies to the SM hardware or not, or the 900Mhz. > > The safest item would be the 'syncbox junior deluxe' which has a port you > can power it with and then 6p6c ports to hook into the timing port on the > radio. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:46 AM wrote: > >> It is actually the PTP 450i that I’m talking about. I probably wouldn’t >> use it again because it seems once you have enough power to use 900 MHz in >> PTP, then you have plenty of power to use 2.4 GHz in PTP. >> >> >> >> I was going to get the Syncbox Junior Aux Port, but there is no “uGPS >> power” option in the firmware, so I’m not sure the radio can power it. >> >> >> >> I only have one of these, it is 1 hour away and already running. >> Otherwise, I would just test it with what I have here. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian >> (List Account) >> *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2020 5:55 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? >> >> >> >> Yes, with the caveat that they changed some stuff in the 450i *AP* >> hardware which makes it incompatible with pipes before revision I0. >> >> >> >> If it works and gets sync, it's good to go. If it doesn't, then you'll >> just need to find a syncpipe or syncbox I0 or later. (That's the letter >> I, it's kinda nice how that ended up landing = I0 = 450i. Would have been >> better if they hadn't mangled the sync port to need a different circuit, >> but that's the way it goes). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM Mathew Howard >> wrote: >> >> The 900mhz PTP is definitely SM hardware. >> >> Apparently I was wrong about them supporting sync over power... looks >> like you would indeed need a timing port device. But in that case, any old >> sync pipe should work, shouldn't it? >> >> >> >> >> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Sub-6-GHz/PTP450-900-BHM-Sync-Options/td-p/74379 >> >> >> >> I suspect we are actually talking about a PMP AP though, so we'd need to >> clarify that >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < >> li...@packetflux.com> wrote: >> >> I see that everyone else is as confused as I am about some of these PTP >> Radios. >> >> >> >> I'm about 100% certain that the 900Mhz PTP is be the AP hardware, in >> which case it should support any timing method you throw at it: Canopy >> sync, cambium sync, or aux port sync. >> >> >> >> For a single radio,the Syncbox Aux Port is probably the least expensive >> option, although I personally would throw the combination of a syncbox >> basic, sitemonitor base 3, and powerinjector+canopy sync at it as that will >> allow you to power and control any other radios at the site and gain >> temperature and telemetry for the site. >> >> >> >> On the syncbox only option, The Syncbox Aux Port get's its power from the >> radio, just turn on uGPS power in the AP, and run a cat5 from the aux port >> to this unit. >> >> >> >> If this isn't based on the AP hardware, then we need to go to plan B, >> which will probably be a timing port device, but I'll need to research more. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:30 PM wrote: >> >> I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any >> recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? >> >> [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] >> >> Thank you, Chris >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> - Forrest >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> - Forrest >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > - Forrest > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
What they did in the 'i' hardware was change the drive strength require. I'm not sure if that applies to the SM hardware or not, or the 900Mhz. The safest item would be the 'syncbox junior deluxe' which has a port you can power it with and then 6p6c ports to hook into the timing port on the radio. On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 5:46 AM wrote: > It is actually the PTP 450i that I’m talking about. I probably wouldn’t > use it again because it seems once you have enough power to use 900 MHz in > PTP, then you have plenty of power to use 2.4 GHz in PTP. > > > > I was going to get the Syncbox Junior Aux Port, but there is no “uGPS > power” option in the firmware, so I’m not sure the radio can power it. > > > > I only have one of these, it is 1 hour away and already running. > Otherwise, I would just test it with what I have here. > > > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian > (List Account) > *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2020 5:55 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Yes, with the caveat that they changed some stuff in the 450i *AP* > hardware which makes it incompatible with pipes before revision I0. > > > > If it works and gets sync, it's good to go. If it doesn't, then you'll > just need to find a syncpipe or syncbox I0 or later. (That's the letter > I, it's kinda nice how that ended up landing = I0 = 450i. Would have been > better if they hadn't mangled the sync port to need a different circuit, > but that's the way it goes). > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: > > The 900mhz PTP is definitely SM hardware. > > Apparently I was wrong about them supporting sync over power... looks like > you would indeed need a timing port device. But in that case, any old sync > pipe should work, shouldn't it? > > > > > http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Sub-6-GHz/PTP450-900-BHM-Sync-Options/td-p/74379 > > > > I suspect we are actually talking about a PMP AP though, so we'd need to > clarify that > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > > I see that everyone else is as confused as I am about some of these PTP > Radios. > > > > I'm about 100% certain that the 900Mhz PTP is be the AP hardware, in which > case it should support any timing method you throw at it: Canopy sync, > cambium sync, or aux port sync. > > > > For a single radio,the Syncbox Aux Port is probably the least expensive > option, although I personally would throw the combination of a syncbox > basic, sitemonitor base 3, and powerinjector+canopy sync at it as that will > allow you to power and control any other radios at the site and gain > temperature and telemetry for the site. > > > > On the syncbox only option, The Syncbox Aux Port get's its power from the > radio, just turn on uGPS power in the AP, and run a cat5 from the aux port > to this unit. > > > > If this isn't based on the AP hardware, then we need to go to plan B, > which will probably be a timing port device, but I'll need to research more. > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:30 PM wrote: > > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > - Forrest > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > - Forrest > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
It is actually the PTP 450i that I’m talking about. I probably wouldn’t use it again because it seems once you have enough power to use 900 MHz in PTP, then you have plenty of power to use 2.4 GHz in PTP. I was going to get the Syncbox Junior Aux Port, but there is no “uGPS power” option in the firmware, so I’m not sure the radio can power it. I only have one of these, it is 1 hour away and already running. Otherwise, I would just test it with what I have here. From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 5:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Yes, with the caveat that they changed some stuff in the 450i *AP* hardware which makes it incompatible with pipes before revision I0. If it works and gets sync, it's good to go. If it doesn't, then you'll just need to find a syncpipe or syncbox I0 or later. (That's the letter I, it's kinda nice how that ended up landing = I0 = 450i. Would have been better if they hadn't mangled the sync port to need a different circuit, but that's the way it goes). On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: The 900mhz PTP is definitely SM hardware. Apparently I was wrong about them supporting sync over power... looks like you would indeed need a timing port device. But in that case, any old sync pipe should work, shouldn't it? http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Sub-6-GHz/PTP450-900-BHM-Sync-Options/td-p/74379 I suspect we are actually talking about a PMP AP though, so we'd need to clarify that On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote: I see that everyone else is as confused as I am about some of these PTP Radios. I'm about 100% certain that the 900Mhz PTP is be the AP hardware, in which case it should support any timing method you throw at it: Canopy sync, cambium sync, or aux port sync. For a single radio,the Syncbox Aux Port is probably the least expensive option, although I personally would throw the combination of a syncbox basic, sitemonitor base 3, and powerinjector+canopy sync at it as that will allow you to power and control any other radios at the site and gain temperature and telemetry for the site. On the syncbox only option, The Syncbox Aux Port get's its power from the radio, just turn on uGPS power in the AP, and run a cat5 from the aux port to this unit. If this isn't based on the AP hardware, then we need to go to plan B, which will probably be a timing port device, but I'll need to research more. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:30 PM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote: I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] Thank you, Chris -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Yes, with the caveat that they changed some stuff in the 450i *AP* hardware which makes it incompatible with pipes before revision I0. If it works and gets sync, it's good to go. If it doesn't, then you'll just need to find a syncpipe or syncbox I0 or later. (That's the letter I, it's kinda nice how that ended up landing = I0 = 450i. Would have been better if they hadn't mangled the sync port to need a different circuit, but that's the way it goes). On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:20 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > The 900mhz PTP is definitely SM hardware. > Apparently I was wrong about them supporting sync over power... looks like > you would indeed need a timing port device. But in that case, any old sync > pipe should work, shouldn't it? > > > http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Sub-6-GHz/PTP450-900-BHM-Sync-Options/td-p/74379 > > I suspect we are actually talking about a PMP AP though, so we'd need to > clarify that > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> I see that everyone else is as confused as I am about some of these PTP >> Radios. >> >> I'm about 100% certain that the 900Mhz PTP is be the AP hardware, in >> which case it should support any timing method you throw at it: Canopy >> sync, cambium sync, or aux port sync. >> >> For a single radio,the Syncbox Aux Port is probably the least expensive >> option, although I personally would throw the combination of a syncbox >> basic, sitemonitor base 3, and powerinjector+canopy sync at it as that will >> allow you to power and control any other radios at the site and gain >> temperature and telemetry for the site. >> >> On the syncbox only option, The Syncbox Aux Port get's its power from the >> radio, just turn on uGPS power in the AP, and run a cat5 from the aux port >> to this unit. >> >> If this isn't based on the AP hardware, then we need to go to plan B, >> which will probably be a timing port device, but I'll need to research more. >> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:30 PM wrote: >> >>> I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any >>> recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? >>> >>> [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] >>> >>> Thank you, Chris >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> - Forrest >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
The 900mhz PTP is definitely SM hardware. Apparently I was wrong about them supporting sync over power... looks like you would indeed need a timing port device. But in that case, any old sync pipe should work, shouldn't it? http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Sub-6-GHz/PTP450-900-BHM-Sync-Options/td-p/74379 I suspect we are actually talking about a PMP AP though, so we'd need to clarify that On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:53 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I see that everyone else is as confused as I am about some of these PTP > Radios. > > I'm about 100% certain that the 900Mhz PTP is be the AP hardware, in which > case it should support any timing method you throw at it: Canopy sync, > cambium sync, or aux port sync. > > For a single radio,the Syncbox Aux Port is probably the least expensive > option, although I personally would throw the combination of a syncbox > basic, sitemonitor base 3, and powerinjector+canopy sync at it as that will > allow you to power and control any other radios at the site and gain > temperature and telemetry for the site. > > On the syncbox only option, The Syncbox Aux Port get's its power from the > radio, just turn on uGPS power in the AP, and run a cat5 from the aux port > to this unit. > > If this isn't based on the AP hardware, then we need to go to plan B, > which will probably be a timing port device, but I'll need to research more. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:30 PM wrote: > >> I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any >> recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? >> >> [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] >> >> Thank you, Chris >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > - Forrest > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
I see that everyone else is as confused as I am about some of these PTP Radios. I'm about 100% certain that the 900Mhz PTP is be the AP hardware, in which case it should support any timing method you throw at it: Canopy sync, cambium sync, or aux port sync. For a single radio,the Syncbox Aux Port is probably the least expensive option, although I personally would throw the combination of a syncbox basic, sitemonitor base 3, and powerinjector+canopy sync at it as that will allow you to power and control any other radios at the site and gain temperature and telemetry for the site. On the syncbox only option, The Syncbox Aux Port get's its power from the radio, just turn on uGPS power in the AP, and run a cat5 from the aux port to this unit. If this isn't based on the AP hardware, then we need to go to plan B, which will probably be a timing port device, but I'll need to research more. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:30 PM wrote: > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
I'm fairly certain the PTP version has sync ability, but I don't remember what sync sources work with it... it seems to me that it only worked with sync over power. I checked into it at one point because we were putting in a PTP450i 900mhz link, but I never actually bothered trying to use sync because it wasn't close enough to any of our 900mhz APs for me to care. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:54 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I also missed that. > > > > I’m not sure the PTP version even has sync capability, you’d have to check > the spec sheet or user manual. I wouldn’t use 900 MHz for backhaul so I am > not familiar with the product, other than as you say, it’s the SM hardware > (and therefore I assume needs 24V power). > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:32 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Oh, wait... I just realized he said *PTP* 450i... if that's the case, that > changes things (that would be the same hardware, physically, as the 900mhz > 450i SM). The 900mhz PMP450i SM does have the old 6 pin connector on it, > but I don't remember if that's usable for sync or not.. you might need sync > over power. > > > > If it is actually a PMP450i AP, then yeah, the simplest thing for a single > AP is to just get the AUX port Syncbox Junior and be done with it. > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:21 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > AUX port is RJ45. Apparently you can make a 6pin to 8pin adapter cable > following instructions in the Cambium documentation, to convert from timing > port to AUX port. > > > > Syncpipes have been EOL for awhile, so I forget how many versions there > were. I know there was a BASIC and a PARASITIC. I don’t remember if there > was a version that could be powered directly from a timing/UGPS/AUX port. > > > > Personally, I’d spend the $130 and get the new version. Or if it’s a > SyncPipe BASIC, buy a PowerInjector+CambiumSync. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:46 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Is the aux port sync the old input? Can he just hang his old syncpipe off > that directly > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox > Junior AUX port version. > > https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * > cg...@graytechsoftware.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only > need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. > For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
I also missed that. I’m not sure the PTP version even has sync capability, you’d have to check the spec sheet or user manual. I wouldn’t use 900 MHz for backhaul so I am not familiar with the product, other than as you say, it’s the SM hardware (and therefore I assume needs 24V power). From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Oh, wait... I just realized he said *PTP* 450i... if that's the case, that changes things (that would be the same hardware, physically, as the 900mhz 450i SM). The 900mhz PMP450i SM does have the old 6 pin connector on it, but I don't remember if that's usable for sync or not.. you might need sync over power. If it is actually a PMP450i AP, then yeah, the simplest thing for a single AP is to just get the AUX port Syncbox Junior and be done with it. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:21 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: AUX port is RJ45. Apparently you can make a 6pin to 8pin adapter cable following instructions in the Cambium documentation, to convert from timing port to AUX port. Syncpipes have been EOL for awhile, so I forget how many versions there were. I know there was a BASIC and a PARASITIC. I don’t remember if there was a version that could be powered directly from a timing/UGPS/AUX port. Personally, I’d spend the $130 and get the new version. Or if it’s a SyncPipe BASIC, buy a PowerInjector+CambiumSync. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Is the aux port sync the old input? Can he just hang his old syncpipe off that directly On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox Junior AUX port version. https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of cg...@graytechsoftware.com <mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Rackinjector you use the Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board cards. For a powerinjector you use the Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote: I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] Thank you, Chris -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Oh, wait... I just realized he said *PTP* 450i... if that's the case, that changes things (that would be the same hardware, physically, as the 900mhz 450i SM). The 900mhz PMP450i SM does have the old 6 pin connector on it, but I don't remember if that's usable for sync or not.. you might need sync over power. If it is actually a PMP450i AP, then yeah, the simplest thing for a single AP is to just get the AUX port Syncbox Junior and be done with it. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 4:21 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > AUX port is RJ45. Apparently you can make a 6pin to 8pin adapter cable > following instructions in the Cambium documentation, to convert from timing > port to AUX port. > > > > Syncpipes have been EOL for awhile, so I forget how many versions there > were. I know there was a BASIC and a PARASITIC. I don’t remember if there > was a version that could be powered directly from a timing/UGPS/AUX port. > > > > Personally, I’d spend the $130 and get the new version. Or if it’s a > SyncPipe BASIC, buy a PowerInjector+CambiumSync. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:46 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Is the aux port sync the old input? Can he just hang his old syncpipe off > that directly > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox > Junior AUX port version. > > https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * > cg...@graytechsoftware.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only > need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. > For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
AUX port is RJ45. Apparently you can make a 6pin to 8pin adapter cable following instructions in the Cambium documentation, to convert from timing port to AUX port. Syncpipes have been EOL for awhile, so I forget how many versions there were. I know there was a BASIC and a PARASITIC. I don’t remember if there was a version that could be powered directly from a timing/UGPS/AUX port. Personally, I’d spend the $130 and get the new version. Or if it’s a SyncPipe BASIC, buy a PowerInjector+CambiumSync. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Is the aux port sync the old input? Can he just hang his old syncpipe off that directly On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox Junior AUX port version. https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of cg...@graytechsoftware.com <mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Rackinjector you use the Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board cards. For a powerinjector you use the Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote: I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] Thank you, Chris -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Yeah, it has the aux port. I'm pretty sure we have at least one of those that's setup that way. It seems to me that you can use the aux port like the old sync port, if you make the proper cable... but I could be remembering wrong. On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox > Junior AUX port version. > > https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * > cg...@graytechsoftware.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only > need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. > For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Is the aux port sync the old input? Can he just hang his old syncpipe off that directly On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox > Junior AUX port version. > > https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * > cg...@graytechsoftware.com > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only > need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. > For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
I think that AP has an AUX port, doesn’t it? So you could use a Syncbox Junior AUX port version. https://store.packetflux.com/syncbox-junior-aux-port-version/ From: AF On Behalf Of cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Rackinjector you use the Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board cards. For a powerinjector you use the Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote: I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] Thank you, Chris -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Yep On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:17 PM wrote: > Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only > need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray > *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? > > > > Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. > For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Thank you. This is a small site with a handful of customers… and I only need sync on this one radio. Will any of the smaller units work? From: AF On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz? Rackinjector you use the Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board cards. For a powerinjector you use the Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com> > wrote: I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] Thank you, Chris -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
https://store.packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-cambium-style-sync/ https://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/ https://store.packetflux.com/rackinjector-injection-card-for-cambium-sync/ On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:55 AM Ryan Ray wrote: > Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. > For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > >> I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any >> recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? >> >> [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] >> >> Thank you, Chris >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
Rackinjector you use the *Power Injection for Cambium Sync Board* cards. For a powerinjector you use the *Powerinjector Plus Cambium-Style* On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any > recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? > > [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] > > Thank you, Chris > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync for PTP 450i 900 MHz?
I have a site where I need sync only for a PTP 450i 900 MHz AP. Any recommendation for which PacketFlux injector to use? [I have some old syncpipes, but they are not new enough.] Thank you, Chris -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
