from:"Daniel White via Af"

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer

2014-12-30 Thread Daniel White via Af

Android cell phone app.  Free!

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via
> Af
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:32 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
> 
> Looking for something under $300
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Daniel White via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:49 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
> 
> Compared to what ;-)  Certainly a lot less than an Agilent/Keysight Fieldfox 
> or
> Anritsu Sitemaster.
> 
> Honestly I doubt it’s the tool you want for this job.
> 
> I think you pick your poison - WiFi based are thinks like WiSpy, or even an 
> app
> on an Android phone... or you go all out for a spectrum analyzer like Aaronia
> or SAF (which is a whole different debate).
> 
> Daniel White – Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
> 
> Cell:  (303) 746-3590
> Skype: danieldwhite
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via
> > Af
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:06 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
> >
> > Spendy as I recall.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Seth Mattinen via Af
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:49 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
> >
> > On 12/30/14 9:45, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
> > > Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band.
> >
> > SAF Spectrum Compact has a model for 2.000 - 8.000 GHz.
> >
> > ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer

2014-12-30 Thread Daniel White via Af

Compared to what ;-)  Certainly a lot less than an Agilent/Keysight Fieldfox or 
Anritsu Sitemaster.

Honestly I doubt it’s the tool you want for this job.  

I think you pick your poison - WiFi based are thinks like WiSpy, or even an app 
on an Android phone... or you go all out for a spectrum analyzer like Aaronia 
or SAF (which is a whole different debate).

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via
> Af
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
> 
> Spendy as I recall.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Seth Mattinen via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:49 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer
> 
> On 12/30/14 9:45, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
> > Looking more for a handheld device that has a nice screen, dual band.
> 
> SAF Spectrum Compact has a model for 2.000 - 8.000 GHz.
> 
> ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer

2014-12-30 Thread Daniel White via Af

Depends on what you want.

 

If WiFi is the concern, you need a WiFi based spectrum analyzer so it can see 
SSID’s and things like that.  Something like what SAF sells of course will see 
the signal, but it won’t be able to distinguish SSID’s.  But if you want to be 
able to reliably pick up non-WiFi based interference, you need a real spectrum 
analyzer (rather than a WiFi chipset in spectrum analyzer mode).

 

Are your techs making heat maps for projects, or just helping with in home WiFi 
readings?  

 

More on the application would help I guess :-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Spectrum Analyzer

 

What is a good lower cost spectrum analyzer to help techs sniff out customer’s 
wifi coverage?

Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

2014-12-29 Thread Daniel White via Af

Just spoke to my father, who worked at Western Digital from 2008 thru 2013 
(hard drive firmware engineer) and he said he wasn’t aware there was any hard 
drive manufacturers in Phoenix – and especially was not aware of any Western 
Digital facility.

 

My guess since assets like generators and chillers are in the auction, it was a 
facility long abandoned.  And if you look at the age, they have been there a 
LONG time.  That golf cart screams 1970’s to me.

 

This news article would back that up:

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2010/05/31/daily17.html

 

and this article from the same date talks about shutting down the same facility:

 

http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/20100602microchip-plant-purchased.html

 

Also would explain why my Dad didn’t know about it… it probably never became a 
“Western Digital” facility.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account) via Af
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:34 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

 

More likely in my mind is that these are leftovers from a no longer used plant 
for spinning rust drives.

The former assets of wd is what makes me curious. Makes it sounds like these 
were acquired from or abandoned by wd.

On Dec 29, 2014 2:30 PM, "Craig Baird via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I remember seeing pictures of a WD factory or warehouse or something in 
Thailand, I think, that was flooded by a Tsunami a few years ago.  Any chance 
they're trying to sell off stuff involved in that event?

Craig


Quoting "Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >:

Western digital is still going strong.  They even bought Hitachi a while
back.

Makes me wonder what the deal is with this auction.
On Dec 29, 2014 2:09 PM, "Jason McKemie via Af"  wrote:

Where did you see that?  I can't find anything on it, other than some
April Fool's joke.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Seagate, years ago

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 29, 2014 3:34 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

They were bought out a while back.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

--
*From: *"Jason McKemie via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
*To: *af@afmug.com  
*Sent: *Monday, December 29, 2014 2:33:54 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WD Auction

Maybe they just relocated a manufacturing facility?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
wrote:

WD went under?

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Jason McKemie via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
wrote:

There is probably a bunch of good stuff here:


http://www.hgpauction.com/auctions/71349/former-assets-western-digital/?utm_source=Official+Auction+Former+Assets+of+Western+Digital
 

 &utm_campaign=DigitalWestern&utm_medium=email




--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel

2014-12-29 Thread Daniel White via Af

Ubiquiti mFi?

http://www.ubnt.com/mfi/mport/

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:32 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Simple Alarm Panel
> 
> Looking for an economical device with contact closure inputs that will send
> email and text alerts using a provided Internet connection.  Say a door is
> opened at a tower site I want an email or text message or both.  Anyone
> know of anything?  Thinking of using something like an Arduino but hate to
> reinvent the wheel.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

2014-12-26 Thread Daniel White via Af

People get way too caught up in the PTZ thing.  Adds a lot of cost to the
camera, deceases MTBF of the camera, and generally, the camera isnt
pointing in the direction of the action when needed.  They can also be
difficult to control without dedicated joysticks, etc.  Once you figure out
the magnification level needed, you can figure out how many degrees the
business park would take to cover probably one fixed camera would do it.
And you run a better chance of PoE.

 

If your client just wants to see what it looks like up there pointing in a
certain direction, Im sure a Ubiquiti airCam Pro would do the trick.  Why
spend more?  You dont have 20x zoom on your eyes when youre up there
usually, and if the idea is just a general look of the park a wider shot
than a closer in shot is probably more valuable.  Even multiple fixed
cameras with an NVR system would cost less than a single PTZ camera.

 

Really if the application is what does it look like up there I dont see
the point in wasting money on higher end, security grade, cameras.

 

Many cameras should accept DC input instead of AC.  At least back when I
used to install them on occasion.  Axis was the brand I played with the most
if I recall (I remember doing some Inscape cameras not sure if those guys
are still around).  

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 7:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

 

Define useful.  This is not a security application so we dont need to be
able to read license plates.  Dont you guys ever have customers ask you
what the view looks like from up there?  My response is usually why dont
you climb with me and take a look.  I was thinking a camera would give them
the gee that is neat view and the occasional check of the weather.  The
problem is that I dont know what the image would look like with a $250
camera vs a $1500 camera.  Or is more $$ required?  Just wondering what
others have done.

 

EverFocus has a 2 MP 20x optical zoom H.264 speed dome camera EPN4220 for
~$1,550.  Wondering what that would look like.

 

Oh.  Its 24VAC.  Yuk.  Are all these type cameras going to be AC?  30W and
10/100.  So I guess I could do a passive POE with custom injectors at each
end.  Not horrible.

 

PC

Blaze Broadband

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 8:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

 

Seriously?ï¿½ That would require a serious zoom/telephoto lens to get you
any kind of decent resolution. I don't know anything off the top of my head
that would be useful at a half mile.



--
bp

 

On 12/26/2014 3:18 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote:

Iï¿½m thinking 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile would be fine.ï¿½ Forget the IR
thing.ï¿½ Not needed.ï¿½ Good day time image is what people will want to
look at I think.

ï¿½

ï¿½

ï¿½

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 5:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower camera recommendations

ï¿½

What kind of distance are you talking about?ï¿½ Critical issue if you wanted
IR, because there are serious limitations on how far you will get decent
video with IR (no greater than 100', and that might be a stretch).ï¿½ But
the distance would dictate what kind of magnification/lenses are required.




--
bp

ï¿½

On 12/26/2014 2:36 PM, Paul Conlin via Af wrote:

This question comes up on the list periodically but I havenï¿½t seen if for
a while.ï¿½ A 400 ft tower owner wants a camera to look down on his
commercial business park.ï¿½ We might install and provide local bandwidth
for free if they buy the camera.ï¿½ A little good will between us, them, and
the community. ï¿½So knowing this is not a money maker for anyone, how much
money are we talking to get something that doesnï¿½t suck?

ï¿½

It would have to be PTZ and decent resolution.ï¿½ Good low light would be
nice but no IR illuminators needed, obviously.ï¿½ I assume a small heater is
required to avoid condensation but I donï¿½t know that.ï¿½ Are these
available POE?

ï¿½

PC

Blaze Broadband

ï¿½

ï¿½

Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-21 Thread Daniel White via Af

When I climbed regularly… I only wore cargo pants (always easier to put that 
tool in your cargo pants pocket for a minute than anywhere else it seemed to 
me).  My phone went in a pocket that was not inaccessible from my harness.  For 
winter, my Carharts had plenty of pockets to tuck a phone into.

 

I’d never trust a belt clip for anything on a tower.  Even two-way radios I’d 
rig some sort of lanyard and tie it to my harness as I had a few of those belt 
clips slide off my harness on towers.

 

I’d probably buy these now… or something similar to climb towers in:  
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/workwear/fire-hose/work-clothes/fh-pants.aspx

 

Anyways I agree… belt clip for phones must be a regional thing or an age thing, 
as I don’t know anyone locally that uses them (except my Father in Law… but he 
is in IT as well).  My sons would laugh at me as well if I wore one.  Iphone 5s 
fits nice in my pocket… main reason I have not even thought about the 6 yet.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy via Af
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 

I can't imagine not using a belt clip.  How do you get your phone out of your 
front pocket when it is under your harness and you are on a tower?  I take the 
belt clip and clip it onto the front of my harness so that it is still 
accessible.

 

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Maybe it's a regional thing?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


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From: "Darin Steffl via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:30:44 AM


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

Mike,

 

The only guys I know that use belt clips to hold their phone are at wispa 
shows. In my everyday life, I know almost no one that have a phone in a holster 
or clip. Most everyone I know including many women put the phone in their front 
pocket as I do myself. Those who sit on their phone in their back pocket need 
some help. 

On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

haha

This is the type I usually use.

http://www.seidioonline.com/lg-google-nexus-5-convert-value-pack-black-p/bd5-hkr4lgn5.htm



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


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From: "Jeremy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:01:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

...but check out the awesome belt clips that they are making for these newer 
generation phones!  http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/MLC-N9005-07-6.jpg

 

...or you could always go the holster route...  

http://www.gizmocrazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/163.jpg

 

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I'm not sure the phone placement would lessen the harassment.

Most guys I know use a belt clip (even outside of the IT industry).

*shrugs*



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


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From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:01:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

I put mine in my pocket all the time.  If I even thought about using the belt 
clip, the three women (wife and two teen daughters) would harass me mercilessly!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519   Office

574-220-7826   Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com  


On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Who puts phones in their pockets? Women put theirs in their purse or leave them 
in random places where they are not so you can't possibly reach them and men 
use cases\holsters that go on their belt.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


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From: "Sean Heskett via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:31:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

When I saw the 6+ at the Apple Store I thought it was way over 
sized...especially since it wouldn't fit in pants pockets.

 



On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Did you try and/or considered 6 plus?

 

I am considering 6 plus, I don't need to carry iPad ( mainly for reading).

Tushar

 


On Dec 20, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Sean Heskett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Just upgraded to an iphone6 and I love it.  It was a little big at first 
compared to my 5s but now I don't think I could go back. 

 

 The only reason I say it's "big" is because sometimes it's hard to use one 
handed and stretch your thumb all the way to the top o

Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff

2014-12-16 Thread Daniel White via Af

In Europe... it is common for the yellow light to flash before green as well.  
Concept being it gives you time to put your car in gear before you go 
(automatics are still fairly uncommon there).  Took me awhile to get used to... 
although I drive now in Europe at least twice a year.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler via
> Af
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:48 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
> 
> I don't ever want to see a countdown for a green or red light.  The idiots
> already try and push it now if they had a graph that shows them exaclty
> when it will change...  no thanks.
> 
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jason McKemie via Af" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:14:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
> 
> Those all look like "virtual prototypes in testing", or CGI.  Nice ideas, but
> making them work in real life is another matter entirely.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Josh Luthman via Af 
> wrote:
> >
> > Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>  The start of the video shows "invisible" A/B pillars.. but I like
> >> this part better.
> >>
> >> http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m
> >>
> >> --
> >> josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::
> >> www.spitwspots.com
> >>
> >>
> >

Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications

2014-12-15 Thread Daniel White via Af

At SAF we suggest a spectrum analyzer to measure the actual noise on your path 
to determine if it will affect your path fade margin.

 

Anyone want to buy a spectrum analyzer :-)

 

In all seriousness… many of our customers that have purchased our Spectrum 
Analyzers have reported back to us finding interference on properly licensed 
links that would affect fade margin.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications

 

Welcome to prior coordination!  Now that you have licenses, other proposed 
users of the spectrum within coordination distance are required by FCC Rule to 
notify you before they can file their FCC applications.  This is what you have 
been receiving.  The coordination distance can be quite large, and at 11 GHz it 
is defined as a 125 mile circle plus an additional 125 mile keyhole +/- 5 
degrees around the main beam.

 

You should take an active interest in the notices you receive as depending on 
the skill of the coordinator, your path’s fade margins could be in jeopardy.  
All coordinators offer a “protection service” for a fee, where they will 
routinely monitor, analyze and answer all PCNs that could affect your system in 
case you don’t want to do the analysis yourself.

 

Your license does provide you some protection from interference from any later 
filed systems and this works well in catastrophic interference situations.  
Interference with digital systems primarily affects threshold degradation and 
thus fade margin.  I can’t tell you how many times we have found very serious 
threshold degradation cases in operating systems.  The path seems to operate as 
planned but just doesn’t have the planned for margin since its been degraded by 
interference.  From a system implementation and maintenance standpoint, we 
encourage our customers to:

 

1.Do a fade test during path implementation.  This involves fading or 
muting each side of the path to ensure that the path operates all the way to 
threshold.  If it does not, there is probably interference present that needs 
to be identified and quantified.

2.Since the environment is so dynamic, we recommend performing these tests 
on an annual or bi-annual basis just to make sure that everything is still 
operating as planned.

 

Hope this has helped!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications

 

Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, 
some of which are a state away.

What is the criteria for sending these things out?

What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see 
if it looks like it will cause issues?

whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the 
applicant frequency coordinator?

 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

Wait until you get to Russian names.

 

All Russian names have a nickname that goes with them… and most of them don’t 
make any sense to me… well how they are a nickname.  Alexandra and Sasha is a 
good example in the link below.

 

http://goeasteurope.about.com/od/russianculture/tp/russiannames.htm

 

In Latvia (and it appears Russia too) the last names are spelled differently 
for male and females as well.  For instance, my predecessor Kristaps Rikans 
wife’s last name is Rikane.

 

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:21 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

Lupe is nickname for Guadalupe.  The one I could never figure is how Jack is 
nickname for John.  

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2014 4:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I’m actually glad you mentioned that, I got a new customer a couple weeks back 
and he said his name was Guadalupe Vasquez and I wondered if he was giving me 
his wife’s name or something.  I always though Guadalupe was a girl’s name.  Or 
just Lupe.

 

I guess it’s the Spanish version of the boy named Sue?

 

 

From: Jaime Solorza via Af   

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:50 PM

To: Animal Farm   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

It was  amusing his name was D Cline and card declined.   Names are a funny 
thing ...many Mexican families name boys with Guadalupe which is traditionally 
a girls name.  Kids are mean.  Kid name was Abundio but they called him 
Fundio.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2014 4:37 PM, "Hardy, Tim via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

An actual OB Gyn here in NOVA - Dr. Harry C. Beaver

 

http://www.wellness.com/dir/2471590/obgyn/va/fairfax/harry-beaver-md%23referrer

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 13, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Craig House via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

And I heard somewhere that the owner of the lear jet company who's last name 
was Lear named his daughter Chanda

 

Craig

 

 


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From: "Craig House via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:20:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

My last name is House.   When my son was on the way my wife and I  were 
discussing names for him.   She suggested Porter.   She was serious until I 
made her say his whole name out loud.  

 

Craig

 

 


  _  


From: "Ben Wirch via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 4:14:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

I have a Brenda Titsworth as a sub.

On Dec 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

 

But I really have a customer D. Cline, and his card really was declined, 
otherwise it wouldn’t be all that amusing.

 

There’s no accounting for what people name their kids, though.  I worked with a 
Howard Johnson, a Ronald McDonald, a Rusty Steele, and a Harry Dyke.  I went to 
school with a Jerry Ferry.  Oh, and I’ll bet Ben Dover downloads a lot of 
software from Cambium’s website.

 

From: Craig House via Af   

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:23 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

And the twins Ben and Ilene Dover

 

 


  _  


From: "Jon Bruce via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:19:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

Can't forget good old Harry Showerdrain.

 

 

On 12/13/2014 3:48 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote:

I heard Cheech use it a movie but not sure where it comes from.  Like I.P. 
Freely.   Seymour Butts  juvenile stuff. 

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2014 1:38 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

It took me a moment...

 

From: Jaime Solorza via Af   

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 1:36 PM

To: Animal Farm   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Funny (belated)

 

My favorite is Chuck U. Farley

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2014 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I have a customer D. Cline whose credit card was declined.

 

Oh, and note that today 12/13/14 is the last sequential date of the 21st 
century.

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

Romanian spelling I’d assume.  He grew up in Romania but moved here as a child 
and got his US Citizenship.  Anyways he has worked for SAF for 2 years now :-)

 

Sergiu Albu | Sales Manager – Northeast USA and Canada

SAF North America LLC

Cell:   (440) 263-5063

Skype:  sergiu_albu

E-mail:  sergiu.a...@saftehnika.com <mailto:sergiu.a...@saftehnika.com> 

 

Illinois and Minnesota were just recently transferred to his territory… at 
least for now 

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 5:31 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

Sergio...is my brothers name but never seen it as Sergiu 

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2014 8:21 AM, "Daniel White via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Sergiu Albu would be Steve’s SAF rep… but he doesn’t hang out on the list.

 

I help all of my customers regardless of territory (since mine in North America 
;-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com 
<mailto:jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com> ] 

really good sales guy

we had a communication issue with the licensing coordination, was really 
something we should have been more clear on because of the clustered way our 
business structure is. but it ultimately resulted in a new FRN being created 
instead of the license going to our FRN. He took ownership of the issue and got 
it all squared away in no time. hes a rockstar. You see how many questions i 
fire off on this list, you can imagine what that poor bastard had to deal with 
with me having a direct line to him.

 

Daniel White from the list here filled in the gaps.

 

Im a SAF fanboy now

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Only you, Steve :)

Who's your SAF rep?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 12, 2014 10:34 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

yeah, we are the PCN is -43 and we are -42/-41  Everything tests fine, 
speedtests are great, full capacity. I wouldnt be concerned if it had been hard 
to get the link up.

 

we did full H/V sweeps on both sides, then fine aligned as normal. I just 
expected it to be hard to find the link and somewhat easy to use it. on the 
sweeps we didnt see notable side lobe peaks. just strange.

 

Im really freaking happy with SAF on this though, great support from moonblink 
both pre and post sales, input from SAF sales and support directly, quick 
responses. I guess my only complaint is the product wasnt harder to use

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

If you got the signal the PCN states you're good to go.  You can also do a 
speed test to verify your 300 some megs if you need to?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 12, 2014 10:24 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

yes.

you do understand my concern is that they linked up too easily? Im almost 
thinking we could have just laid the antennas on their sides and they still 
would have made a marginal link. If I werent so pessimistic I would be excited 
about this. Im concerned when the ground thaws or something everything will go 
batty

We have cut the traffic over to it.

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Did u make sure they linked up in lab first? 

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2014 7:08 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

the ground is frozen, pretty much all tilled farmland. Is it possible im seeing 
some sort of multipath type madness that this thing just wouldnt not link up. 
Ive had a harder time pointing shorter 5ghz links

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Slow and easy...slow and easy...

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2014 11:43 AM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

madness we are a little better than the target after fine alignment. at one 
point we had the 4' side pinting to the ground abot 100 yards out ant it still 
had about a

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

Sergiu Albu would be Steve’s SAF rep… but he doesn’t hang out on the list.

 

I help all of my customers regardless of territory (since mine in North America 
;-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com] 

really good sales guy

we had a communication issue with the licensing coordination, was really 
something we should have been more clear on because of the clustered way our 
business structure is. but it ultimately resulted in a new FRN being created 
instead of the license going to our FRN. He took ownership of the issue and got 
it all squared away in no time. hes a rockstar. You see how many questions i 
fire off on this list, you can imagine what that poor bastard had to deal with 
with me having a direct line to him.

 

Daniel White from the list here filled in the gaps.

 

Im a SAF fanboy now

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Only you, Steve :)

Who's your SAF rep?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 12, 2014 10:34 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

yeah, we are the PCN is -43 and we are -42/-41  Everything tests fine, 
speedtests are great, full capacity. I wouldnt be concerned if it had been hard 
to get the link up.

 

we did full H/V sweeps on both sides, then fine aligned as normal. I just 
expected it to be hard to find the link and somewhat easy to use it. on the 
sweeps we didnt see notable side lobe peaks. just strange.

 

Im really freaking happy with SAF on this though, great support from moonblink 
both pre and post sales, input from SAF sales and support directly, quick 
responses. I guess my only complaint is the product wasnt harder to use

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

If you got the signal the PCN states you're good to go.  You can also do a 
speed test to verify your 300 some megs if you need to?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 12, 2014 10:24 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

yes.

you do understand my concern is that they linked up too easily? Im almost 
thinking we could have just laid the antennas on their sides and they still 
would have made a marginal link. If I werent so pessimistic I would be excited 
about this. Im concerned when the ground thaws or something everything will go 
batty

We have cut the traffic over to it.

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Did u make sure they linked up in lab first? 

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2014 7:08 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

the ground is frozen, pretty much all tilled farmland. Is it possible im seeing 
some sort of multipath type madness that this thing just wouldnt not link up. 
Ive had a harder time pointing shorter 5ghz links

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Slow and easy...slow and easy...

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2014 11:43 AM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

madness we are a little better than the target after fine alignment. at one 
point we had the 4' side pinting to the ground abot 100 yards out ant it still 
had about a -80 on the bnc readout

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Yeah, it was so considerate of AT&T to leave that dish up there when they sold 
off the site, only needed to be re-aimed about 2 degrees to go where we wanted. 
 And they built a platform to stand on while aiming it, that was awfully nice 
of them.  And they left the flexible waveguide down to the shelter.  I’d really 
hate to think about hanging a new 12 ft dish ourselves and running waveguide to 
it.  And it’s an Andrew parabolic, not the old WE horns, so we don’t have to 
worry about water getting into the waveguide and freezing.  It doesn’t even 
look like anyone has been using the lightning bolt logo for target practice.  
Life is good when someone abandons nice stuff you can use.

 

 

From: Hardy, Tim via Af   

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:18 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

HPBW for a 12 ft dish at 11.2 GHz is 0.5 degree.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

2014-12-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

I once installed a 35 mile link in 11GHz that was dead on when we lit the 
radios up.  Literally no adjustment to be made.

 

Sometimes you just get lucky :-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

yeah, we are the PCN is -43 and we are -42/-41  Everything tests fine, 
speedtests are great, full capacity. I wouldnt be concerned if it had been hard 
to get the link up.

 

we did full H/V sweeps on both sides, then fine aligned as normal. I just 
expected it to be hard to find the link and somewhat easy to use it. on the 
sweeps we didnt see notable side lobe peaks. just strange.

 

Im really freaking happy with SAF on this though, great support from moonblink 
both pre and post sales, input from SAF sales and support directly, quick 
responses. I guess my only complaint is the product wasnt harder to use

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

If you got the signal the PCN states you're good to go.  You can also do a 
speed test to verify your 300 some megs if you need to?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 12, 2014 10:24 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

yes.

you do understand my concern is that they linked up too easily? Im almost 
thinking we could have just laid the antennas on their sides and they still 
would have made a marginal link. If I werent so pessimistic I would be excited 
about this. Im concerned when the ground thaws or something everything will go 
batty

We have cut the traffic over to it.

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Did u make sure they linked up in lab first? 

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2014 7:08 PM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

the ground is frozen, pretty much all tilled farmland. Is it possible im seeing 
some sort of multipath type madness that this thing just wouldnt not link up. 
Ive had a harder time pointing shorter 5ghz links

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Slow and easy...slow and easy...

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2014 11:43 AM, "That One Guy via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

madness we are a little better than the target after fine alignment. at one 
point we had the 4' side pinting to the ground abot 100 yards out ant it still 
had about a -80 on the bnc readout

 

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Yeah, it was so considerate of AT&T to leave that dish up there when they sold 
off the site, only needed to be re-aimed about 2 degrees to go where we wanted. 
 And they built a platform to stand on while aiming it, that was awfully nice 
of them.  And they left the flexible waveguide down to the shelter.  I’d really 
hate to think about hanging a new 12 ft dish ourselves and running waveguide to 
it.  And it’s an Andrew parabolic, not the old WE horns, so we don’t have to 
worry about water getting into the waveguide and freezing.  It doesn’t even 
look like anyone has been using the lightning bolt logo for target practice.  
Life is good when someone abandons nice stuff you can use.

 

 

From: Hardy, Tim via Af   

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:18 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

HPBW for a 12 ft dish at 11.2 GHz is 0.5 degree.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

Nope, a 4 ft dish in 11 GHz should be pretty narrow, a few degrees and you 
should be into a deep, deep null.  Take a look at the beamwidth or pattern for 
your antenna.  It should be similar to an 8 ft dish in 5.x GHz.

 

We once used an existing 12 ft dish for an 11 GHz link and I kept having to 
tell the tower guy he was not going to be able to eyeball it.  The beamwidth 
was something like 1 degree if I remember right.  He ketp getting nada for 
signal until I made him slowly sweep the azimuth.

 

 

From: That One Guy via Af   

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:50 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: [AFMUG] aligning bigger antennas on short paths

 

Weve never gone above 2' 

we finished installing our 11ghz link yesterday and had the antennas rough 
aligned, one side is 3' one side is 4'. I expected the tighter patterns would 
make it harder to find the initial link

Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Widest channel in 11GHz is 80MHz.

 

You can license anything up to that amount.

 

Differences between spectrum masks for ETSI and ANSI (FCC) are probably outside 
the scope of the list… but you can compare them with some research if you want. 
 Basically, ETSI requires a cleaner signal (i.e., less bleed at the edge) than 
ANSI.  Its in our benefit (FCC land that is) to utilize ANSI channels when 
possible… but for the widest we only have an ETSI mask (since there is no 56MHz 
ANSI mask to comply with).

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 2:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

It will also depend on what the manufacturer does.  AFAIK, the biggest channel 
bandwidth in 11GHz is 50 MHz.  However, we have a 50MHz channel in 11 GHz where 
we had to configure the radios for an 80 MHz channel (in order to actually get 
a 50 MHz channel).  Goofy, but that's the way it was set up.  This is with a 
Dragonwave Horizon Compact Plus.




--
bp

 

On 12/5/2014 12:41 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:

Im lost on the wizard screen, The highest FCC bandwidth looks to be 50mhz, but 
I thought we were running 56, the 56 option is ETSI. Im not sure what to select 
for modulation either configuring the high side right now 

 




 

 

 

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

That's exactly what we have done.  Works well without all the muss and fuss of 
antennas, attenuators, etc.  Heck, the output power is ~~ 20 dBm (give or 
take).  What's that 100 MW or so?  Unlikely that you're going to damage 
anything.




--
bp

 

On 12/5/2014 11:39 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

If you are just testing functionality, just lay them on their backs pointed at 
the ceiling.  No need to go to the effort of attenuators.  If you are worried 
about it, lay a thick book over the waveguide opening.  

 

From: Josh Luthman via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:30 PM

To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

Where did I put that attenuation kit...screw it grab the paper we never use.

 

 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Yep… because we had to come up with a solution when no one wanted to buy the 
$600 kits to do it the proper way ;-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

>Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.

 

Of course there's a reason you're comfortable with the ream attenuation...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

He got it from our support team.

 

Works fine… 2 reams if you have the TX power set low works… but at full TX 
power you want more attenuation… most like 4-6 reams.

 

Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

IIRC it was Kris that suggested the paper ream trick.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Nothing wrong with the advice given here.

 

FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and 
attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often.

 

A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX power 
until you deploy them.

 

Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment.  Make sure to enable it if your 
licensed for it once the link is aligned.

 




Daniel W

Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Yep… because we had to come up with a solution when no one wanted to buy the 
$600 kits to do it the proper way ;-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

>Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.

 

Of course there's a reason you're comfortable with the ream attenuation...




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

He got it from our support team.

 

Works fine… 2 reams if you have the TX power set low works… but at full TX 
power you want more attenuation… most like 4-6 reams.

 

Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

IIRC it was Kris that suggested the paper ream trick.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Nothing wrong with the advice given here.

 

FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and 
attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often.

 

A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX power 
until you deploy them.

 

Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment.  Make sure to enable it if your 
licensed for it once the link is aligned.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:49 AM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

I have not seen her post any cat videos, but maybe she has aliases I don't know 
of.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


  _  


From: "Josh Luthman via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:46:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

It's my go to frequency coordinator.  There are others like Comsearch (Tim).

 

http://www.intelpath.com/

 

As far as I know she doesn't do any cat videos.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

What do you mean? I assume the vendor we paid to do the FCC process handled 
that based on what the FCC says, we had to do a different polarity because 
there is another 11ghz link in a similar path. What does this liz lady do, is 
she the one who puts up all the cat videos on the internet? Im always 
suspicious of women named liz.

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Who is responsible for figuring out your frequencies?  While a vendor can do 
it, I'd suggest calling Liz @ IntelPath.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I know the vendor sent me documentation on cabling/grounding, but I cant find 
it anywhere. We are using the SAF POE injector/splitter. Both components have 
surge suppression, but we also have an ALPU surge suppressor and a DC surge 
suppressor, Im not sure where in the mix these go, top/bottom etc.

 

We did the expedited FCC approval, but dont have a PCN, does that come directly 
to us or to the vendor that did it and is relayed to us. I dont recall 
providing our FRN, so where will this license be applied? Is there a way to get 
it into our FRN portal (the one for managing the 3.65 stuff) or is that a 
separate type of license?

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

35 miles since we're in 'merica.




 

Josh Luthm

Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

He got it from our support team.

 

Works fine… 2 reams if you have the TX power set low works… but at full TX 
power you want more attenuation… most like 4-6 reams.

 

Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

IIRC it was Kris that suggested the paper ream trick.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Nothing wrong with the advice given here.

 

FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and 
attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often.

 

A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX power 
until you deploy them.

 

Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment.  Make sure to enable it if your 
licensed for it once the link is aligned.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:49 AM


To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

I have not seen her post any cat videos, but maybe she has aliases I don't know 
of.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


  _  


From: "Josh Luthman via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:46:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

It's my go to frequency coordinator.  There are others like Comsearch (Tim).

 

http://www.intelpath.com/

 

As far as I know she doesn't do any cat videos.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

What do you mean? I assume the vendor we paid to do the FCC process handled 
that based on what the FCC says, we had to do a different polarity because 
there is another 11ghz link in a similar path. What does this liz lady do, is 
she the one who puts up all the cat videos on the internet? Im always 
suspicious of women named liz.

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Who is responsible for figuring out your frequencies?  While a vendor can do 
it, I'd suggest calling Liz @ IntelPath.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I know the vendor sent me documentation on cabling/grounding, but I cant find 
it anywhere. We are using the SAF POE injector/splitter. Both components have 
surge suppression, but we also have an ALPU surge suppressor and a DC surge 
suppressor, Im not sure where in the mix these go, top/bottom etc.

 

We did the expedited FCC approval, but dont have a PCN, does that come directly 
to us or to the vendor that did it and is relayed to us. I dont recall 
providing our FRN, so where will this license be applied? Is there a way to get 
it into our FRN portal (the one for managing the 3.65 stuff) or is that a 
separate type of license?

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

35 miles since we're in 'merica.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Also, make sure that FCC Applications have been filed before turning these on 
in the field (even for alignment or testing).  The PCN does not provide 
authorization to transmit, but you can operate under Conditional Authority as 
long as the FCC Applications have been accepted for filing at the FCC, the 
applications did not request a waiver, you are not located in a quiet zone, and 
you are not located within 56.3 kilometers of an international border.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard via Af
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

Yes, you are going to want to have the

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz dish, can one put an 18ghz feed horn in it?

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Andrew is the same way, not sure about RFS.

 

Arkivator/LEAX is pretty cool about it… at least the last time I tried.

 

No clue on Tongyu… have not had to cross that bridge but knowing them they 
would be cool with it as long as there was no real technical reason (some 
vendors are good at coming up with very well reasoned technical reasons that 
don’t make a lick of difference in the real world).

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz dish, can one put an 18ghz feed horn in it?

 

Yeah, it is Radiowaves. hopefully they will "fix" the issue since they were the 
ones that shipped directly to us.

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Bill Prince via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

We will all have to walk out to infinity to check that.




--
bp

 

On 12/5/2014 8:46 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

I think I am correct, at infinity all parabolas are the same  with the two 
sides becoming parallel (it is a limit).  But not totally sure if,  at 
infinity, different focal length parabola are scale models of  others.  That 
may take some thinking.  Is a parabola a self scaling curve?

 

From: Chuck McCown   

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 9:43 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz dish, can one put an 18ghz feed horn in it?

 

Depends on the manufacturer of the dish.  

Parabolic curves are all the same.  Just zoomed in or out on the curve.   They 
all  use a  different part of the curve.  And they all have different focal 
points.   

 

From: Sam Lambie via Af   

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 9:09 AM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: [AFMUG] 11 ghz dish, can one put an 18ghz feed horn in it?

 

I was shipped the wrong antennas (2 foot) for an 18ghz link, I didn't notice 
that it was an 11 ghz antenna set until I tried to get the radios to link up. 
Best I could get was -65. It drove me crazy trying to see if I was on a side 
lobe for half an hour until it got dark and I gave up. Right before I left, I 
glanced at the label and saw that the antenna was for an 11 ghz link.

So the question is, are the parabolics on the antenna the same and the feed 
horn different? Can it be swapped out to get me the -38 that I want, or are we 
going to have to uninstall the whole shebang?



Sam



-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598   Office
www.Taosnet.com  

 




-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz dish, can one put an 18ghz feed horn in it?

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Really depends on the antenna manufacturer.

 

Some use radomes that are tuned to only specific frequency ranges, so you will 
get more loss.  Others, won’t sell feedhorns piece mail or if they do, will 
cost more than another 2ft antenna.

 

A parabola is a parabola though for the most part.  There is also concerns 
about side lobe suppression, but that is typically only with 6GHz antennas at 
the smaller diameters.

 

As a rule of thumb though, most licensed antenna manufacturers discourage it, 
or outright “prohibit” it.  Andrew prohibits it for instance, but we are 
getting creative to help Mark out of his situation.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 11 ghz dish, can one put an 18ghz feed horn in it?

 

I was shipped the wrong antennas (2 foot) for an 18ghz link, I didn't notice 
that it was an 11 ghz antenna set until I tried to get the radios to link up. 
Best I could get was -65. It drove me crazy trying to see if I was on a side 
lobe for half an hour until it got dark and I gave up. Right before I left, I 
glanced at the label and saw that the antenna was for an 11 ghz link.

So the question is, are the parabolics on the antenna the same and the feed 
horn different? Can it be swapped out to get me the -38 that I want, or are we 
going to have to uninstall the whole shebang?



Sam



-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Nothing wrong with the advice given here.

 

FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and 
attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often.

 

A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX power 
until you deploy them.

 

Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment.  Make sure to enable it if your 
licensed for it once the link is aligned.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

I have not seen her post any cat videos, but maybe she has aliases I don't know 
of.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Josh Luthman via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:46:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

It's my go to frequency coordinator.  There are others like Comsearch (Tim).

 

http://www.intelpath.com/

 

As far as I know she doesn't do any cat videos.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

What do you mean? I assume the vendor we paid to do the FCC process handled 
that based on what the FCC says, we had to do a different polarity because 
there is another 11ghz link in a similar path. What does this liz lady do, is 
she the one who puts up all the cat videos on the internet? Im always 
suspicious of women named liz.

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Who is responsible for figuring out your frequencies?  While a vendor can do 
it, I'd suggest calling Liz @ IntelPath.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I know the vendor sent me documentation on cabling/grounding, but I cant find 
it anywhere. We are using the SAF POE injector/splitter. Both components have 
surge suppression, but we also have an ALPU surge suppressor and a DC surge 
suppressor, Im not sure where in the mix these go, top/bottom etc.

 

We did the expedited FCC approval, but dont have a PCN, does that come directly 
to us or to the vendor that did it and is relayed to us. I dont recall 
providing our FRN, so where will this license be applied? Is there a way to get 
it into our FRN portal (the one for managing the 3.65 stuff) or is that a 
separate type of license?

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

35 miles since we're in 'merica.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Also, make sure that FCC Applications have been filed before turning these on 
in the field (even for alignment or testing).  The PCN does not provide 
authorization to transmit, but you can operate under Conditional Authority as 
long as the FCC Applications have been accepted for filing at the FCC, the 
applications did not request a waiver, you are not located in a quiet zone, and 
you are not located within 56.3 kilometers of an international border.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard via Af
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

 

Yes, you are going to want to have the PCN in hand for configuring to make sure 
you get frequencies on the right side, TX power, polarity and all that right... 
I would think it would be pretty safe to assume you're licensed for full power 
since you had to go with 4' dishes, but I'd still want to check what the PCN 
says.

I don't remember running into any particular problems setting ours up, but it's 
been a few years.

I do not recommend strapping the dish to your back to carry it up the tower... 


  _  


From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com  ] on behalf of 
Jeremy via Af [af@afmug.com  ]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup

Also, all of the details, including transmit power, should be on the PCN.  You 
should have the PCN in hand.  If you don't I would print it out.  You should 
also have a path analysis with expected signal strengths, and those come in 
really handy when you are aligning.  If you are not where the path calc says 
that you

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question

2014-12-01 Thread Daniel White via Af

Glad you got it figured out Paul.  Sorry I was in meetings or on airplanes all 
day today.

Yes you can power the radio directly with DC and then use the CAT5e interface 
for data and not the fiber interface.  Or both.  It's just a switch inside.  
Just make sure not to create a network loop or something like that :-)

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
> 
> Yeah, we plugged in copper, made the change in radio.  All is good.  We don’t
> do POE at all on this.   This was pre-terminated fiber and we will replace 
> fiber
> in a few days.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Hybrid interface question
> 
> On 12/1/14, 10:28, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:
> > Sure in that case but I think Paul is looking to limp on cat5 during
> > the fiber cut.
> 
> 
> In which case he can just plug it in and go. If he's running fiber then he's
> already got it powered since the fiber wasn't doing that.
> 
> ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Daniel White via Af

Sorry I misspoke.  They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the 
spectrum holder.

 

Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc.  Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has 
to be registered like 3.65GHz.

 

Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

They own LMDS? 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, "Daniel White via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

2014-11-25 Thread Daniel White via Af

Using an FCC form 602.

 

Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is 
their spectrum.  Takes about 24 hours or so.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment

 

So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment.  He 
has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank 
building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood.   His question 
is how are these licensed?  Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP?


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium

2014-11-25 Thread Daniel White via Af

I’m surprised you completely lose it… is variable TX power and adaptive 
modulation on?

6GHz is nice that rain fade isn’t much of a problem, but multipath is a bigger 
problem, especially on flat land like Florida (although the trees help absorb 
some of the multipath).  For many long links, 11GHz is actually better in the 
lower rain rate regions for long distance shots (I’ve engineered 70 mile shots 
with >99.99% uptime in 11GHz).  

Paul I agree though… 6GHz with 3ft antennas is most likely your best option at 
longer distances.  6GHz Space Diversity is the optimal solution… but not 
typically used by WISP’s.

Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC

Cell:

(303) 746-3590

Skype:

danieldwhite

E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium

Sean,

We have a 12 mile  11 Ghz link engineered by SAF for 99.994  with 3 ft. dishes  
(again in Florida – heavy humidity ALL the time) .  It is installed within 1 dB 
of the calculated spec.   And, we lose it completely a couple times complete a 
few times each year with heavy rains.  And, we do get some VERY heavy rains 
during the summer.

So, for me to plan on any longer distance than 12 miles  at 11 Ghz with 3ft. 
dishes would not make sense to me.  I can explore the 6 Ghz smaller dish 
option.  3 ft. dishes is about the max I can imagine using on the Rohn 25G 190 
ft. tower even though it has multiple custom anti-twist supports.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett via Af
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium

6ghz is now able to use smaller antenna sizes.  

Also 11ghz with adaptive modulation should be just fine during heavy rain 
events.

We have a 30 mile 11ghz shot in CO and it's never dropped during a rain event.  
And we had some massive downpours that dropped a couple inches of rain in less 
than an hour.

On Monday, November 24, 2014, Paul McCall via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Unfortunately, the 14, 15, 16 mile links in Florida would be fairly difficult 
at 11 ghz, even with 4ft dishes, which I cant load up on a Rohn 25G tower.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Sean 
Heskett via Af
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 2:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] For Cambium

i would go licensed gear from SAF (or your favorite licensed PTP vendor).

we keep all the unlicensed bands available for PMP...we use licensed for PTP.

the difference between a wifi backhaul and a licensed backhaul is like the 
difference between a Ford Focus and a Ferrari F12berlinetta.  they are both 
cars that drive on roads but that's about where the similarities end.  same 
thing with backhauls.  

2 cents

-sean

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Paul McCall via Af  > wrote:
>
> Cambium,
>
> Can you please make a suggestion as to what equipment that you recommend to 
> us for this type of problem/solution?
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
>  ] On Behalf Of Paul 
> McCall via Af
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:32 PM
> To: af@afmug.com  
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force
>
> For Cambium we have a very remote tower that feeds several other towers.  
> Everything is OSPF but logically...
>
> Tower R (the main remote tower - a 190 ft. Rohn 25G with several anti-twist 
> devices) is "fed" by...
> Tower A - 26 miles away - UBNT 3.65ghz Rocket M5 AND a Mikrotik RB912 
> 5 Ghz
> This commercial tower (Tower A) has over 300Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth and feeds about 75 to 85 Mbit to Tower A
> Tower B - 9 miles away - UBNT 5ghz Rocket M5
> This tower (Tower B) is a 90 ft. Rohn 25G
>
> Tower R then feeds...
> Tower C - 12 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 50 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
> Tower D - 15 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
> Tower E - 17 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
> Tower F - 14 miles away - Mikrotik RB912 - 5 GHz - 40 Mbit of usable 
> bandwidth.  (Rohn 25G 120 ft.)
>
> To get all this to work without Sync was quite a frequency juggling act.  
> There are other towers in the area and towers C, D, E, F connect (chain) to 
> each other on the "back side" and we use a couple 3.65Ghz UBNT radios on the 
> backside links.
>
> The challenge...
>
> First of all, I need more BW to each tower, but mostly Tower C.  And, I need 
> better consistency... at times the links do not perform as I expect and then 
> I get customer complaints etc. I hate that.
>
> So, what would be the best solutio

Re: [AFMUG] radios with frickin' laser beams on their heads

2014-11-24 Thread Daniel White via Af

I was also wondering why a -51dBm RX sensitivity when an old BridgeWave GE80 
did it at -61dBm.

But I know AOptix has been sepc’d into a lot of projects.  The hybrid approach 
is certainly interesting!

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] radios with frickin' laser beams on their heads

I also wonder why they didn't go for a full 60 cm reflector on the radio side 
of the unit, to increase the E-band link budget. Based on the diagrams in the 
PDF the actual parabolic reflector in the unit is somewhat smaller than a 
Radiowaves or MTI 60cm antenna tuned for 71-86GHz.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Did you ask him how to mount a 180lb radio/laser on a tower?  Or the 3ft wide 
by almost 3ft depth?

Just seeing the demo units at trade shows makes me wonder :-)

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of Caleb Knauer via Af
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:30 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] radios with frickin' laser beams on their heads
>
> Haha funny, had a call with them Friday and then afterwards made the same
> joke.  Really cool sounding product with the auto alignment and live tracking
> features.  Ain't cheap.  Their sales guy was quite knowledgeable and also
> understanding of the product offering and market.
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af  <mailto:af@afmug.com> >
> wrote:
> > http://pages.aoptix.com/rs/aoptixtechnologies/images/AOptix_Intellimax
> > _MB2000_Datasheet.pdf
> >
> > http://thestack.com/aoptix-lasercomm-system-military-laser-radio-rollo
> > ut-171114
> >
> >
> >

> > 80 GHz QPSK link + parallel FSO OOK laser?  Claiming 10km five nines,
> > I bet that's in ITU rain zone A (saudi arabian desert, etc).
> >
> > I wonder how it will stack up on real world performance in the Seattle
> > area vs. a Bridgewave E-band link, 60cm dishes, +19 Tx power, QPSK
> modulation.
> >
> >
> >

Re: [AFMUG] radios with frickin' laser beams on their heads

2014-11-24 Thread Daniel White via Af

Did you ask him how to mount a 180lb radio/laser on a tower?  Or the 3ft wide 
by almost 3ft depth?

Just seeing the demo units at trade shows makes me wonder :-)

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590

> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer via Af
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 12:30 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] radios with frickin' laser beams on their heads
> 
> Haha funny, had a call with them Friday and then afterwards made the same
> joke.  Really cool sounding product with the auto alignment and live tracking
> features.  Ain't cheap.  Their sales guy was quite knowledgeable and also
> understanding of the product offering and market.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af 
> wrote:
> > http://pages.aoptix.com/rs/aoptixtechnologies/images/AOptix_Intellimax
> > _MB2000_Datasheet.pdf
> >
> > http://thestack.com/aoptix-lasercomm-system-military-laser-radio-rollo
> > ut-171114
> >
> >
> >
> > 80 GHz QPSK link + parallel FSO OOK laser?  Claiming 10km five nines,
> > I bet that's in ITU rain zone A (saudi arabian desert, etc).
> >
> > I wonder how it will stack up on real world performance in the Seattle
> > area vs. a Bridgewave E-band link, 60cm dishes, +19 Tx power, QPSK
> modulation.
> >
> >
> >

Re: [AFMUG] ID the ODU?

2014-11-14 Thread Daniel White via Af

Looks like DragonWave.  Only ones with plastic sun shields I am aware of.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke via Af
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ID the ODU?

 

Seen on the roof of a Rogers radio studio in BC. 

Rogers = large canuck LTE carrier and owns some AM radio stations.

Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: "The Government Will Fuck the Internet Up"

2014-11-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

NASA pre space lab.

 

Pretty special putting man on the moon.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: "The Government Will Fuck 
the Internet Up"

 

The military.  It's pretty awesome, you have to admit.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

What hasn't the government fucked up?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Eric Kuhnke via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:10:08 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mark Cuban on Net Neutrality: "The Government Will Fuck 
the Internet Up"

considering that mark cuban's hero is Ayn Rand:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=mark+cuban+ayn+rand 

 
&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=NUhlVKGZJKibkgLHhoGgDA



Juvenile philosophy.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

> http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/13/markcuban-on-net-neutrality-the-governme
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

2014-11-12 Thread Daniel White via Af

Tyson,

 

Good answers.  Glad you’re doing it.  Two thumbs up from me.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

 

Dan,

 

We don’t have a project manager or foreman either.

Yes, you are correct most guys SHOULD know the area.  However, I quickly came 
to learn that most guys DON’T.

 

For example,  can most guys give the actual address to a tower or grain leg?  I 
found out that NO they cannot.

Hell, I am a WISP owner and can’t.

 

Several years ago, I created a document that is transported in the service 
trucks.  It contains the names of each tower, address, GPS data, equipment on 
tower, height and local hospital name, address and phone number.  In the event 
of an accident, this data can be quickly referenced.  We do have ‘safety 
meeting’ sheets that list person in charge, weather, safety concerns in area 
and on tower. We also have a signature sheet for each person on site to 
acknowledge the meeting took place and they are aware of document to reference 
in the event of an emergency.  (I can admit this sheet is rarely used unless we 
bring a third party in to help…at which point I require it to protect myself)

 

In terms of towers, again you are correct.  Tower certification is a big 
PROBLEM in our industry.  I had a sales representative from Crown tell me our 
industry lacked safety requirements and  installation standards. I couldn’t 
really argue that point given what I have seen.

 

 

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

 

Tyson,

 

Playing Devil’s advocate here.

 

What do you discuss during the pre-climb safety meeting?

 

It’s your network – and the average WISP network is regional (usually contained 
to one state).  The guys you’re climbing with know where the closest hospitals 
are, what the capabilities of the local fire department is, what local fauna 
and flora to look out for, etc. etc.  I guess its good prep to make sure that 
someone knows what the weather looks like today, and for the project manager 
(not that the average WISP seems to have a crew foreman on most climbs) to give 
out the tasks for the day.

 

I never did one in my WISP days – because by the time we had rolled up to the 
site we all knew what to do to hit the ground running.  On the cellular side, 
when you might visit a site once in your career at a company I see lots of 
value of the pre-climb meeting.

 

Of course I didn’t get tower climbing certified until after I was done with my 
WISP days… which I hate to say is a problem for the industry in general.  What 
you don’t know can certainly kill you in this line of work.

 

In my integration days… was a whole different story.  I’ve seen many 
integrators do them… but they are very uncommon in the WISP industry from my 
personal experience.

 

I’d bet a group like Safety One could point you in the right direction to 
making an OSHA compliant plan for your WISP. 

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Comm. Inc via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

 

For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I 
require OHSA 10, at a minimum,  for all employees now, including CPR CERT.  
Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but 
I have yet to see ANYONE do it.

I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the 
cellular side. 

 

 

 

 


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com> 

On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP.

 

From: Josh Reynolds via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel White via Af

Tyson,

 

Playing Devil’s advocate here.

 

What do you discuss during the pre-climb safety meeting?

 

It’s your network – and the average WISP network is regional (usually contained 
to one state).  The guys you’re climbing with know where the closest hospitals 
are, what the capabilities of the local fire department is, what local fauna 
and flora to look out for, etc. etc.  I guess its good prep to make sure that 
someone knows what the weather looks like today, and for the project manager 
(not that the average WISP seems to have a crew foreman on most climbs) to give 
out the tasks for the day.

 

I never did one in my WISP days – because by the time we had rolled up to the 
site we all knew what to do to hit the ground running.  On the cellular side, 
when you might visit a site once in your career at a company I see lots of 
value of the pre-climb meeting.

 

Of course I didn’t get tower climbing certified until after I was done with my 
WISP days… which I hate to say is a problem for the industry in general.  What 
you don’t know can certainly kill you in this line of work.

 

In my integration days… was a whole different story.  I’ve seen many 
integrators do them… but they are very uncommon in the WISP industry from my 
personal experience.

 

I’d bet a group like Safety One could point you in the right direction to 
making an OSHA compliant plan for your WISP. 

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Comm. Inc via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

 

For WISPs, you need to focus on the OSHA content related to construction. I 
require OHSA 10, at a minimum,  for all employees now, including CPR CERT.  
Everyone in our industry should be doing a pre climb safety meeting as well but 
I have yet to see ANYONE do it.

I'm not an expert here at all but that's what what I was taught from the 
cellular side. 

 

 

 

 


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 11, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

We climb towers and are on roofs all day, which is why I asked.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com  

On 11/11/2014 02:15 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Yes, but for manufacturing, not the WISP.

 

From: Josh Reynolds via Af   

Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:29 PM

To: af@afmug.com   ; WISPA General List 
  

Subject: [AFMUG] OSHA Written Safety Plan for WISPs

 

Has anybody had one of these done before? Do you know any resources specific to 
our industry that could help with this?

Thanks

-- 



Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm 9

2014-11-11 Thread Daniel White via Af

SAF and the team will be there!  Platinum Sponsors!

We love both organizations, and their shows while different, also make them
unique and stand on their own.  I don't think one would ever be able to
replicate the other and vice versa.

Daniel White  Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ivan Kohler via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:45 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Animal Farm 9
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The folks at WB manufacturing emailed me about the Animal Farm 9 show in
> February (4th-5th).  We haven't been to an AF show in a couple years.
> Other than the date, there isn't any 2015 specific information on the site
yet,
> such as this year's agenda or sponsors.
> 
> What do you all think of the show?  Will you be going this year?  Do you
also
> go to WISPA (or other shows) or only AF?
> 
> Thanks for your input.  Feel free to have be opinionated.  :)
> 
> --
> Ivan Kohler
> President and Head Geek
> Freeside Internet Services, Inc.
> http://www.freeside.biz/

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 for medical records transfer from hospital to clinic

2014-11-07 Thread Daniel White via Af

4.9GHz is reserved for public safety.  Either government (police, fire, county 
government buildings) or immediate need in case of disaster (power companies, 
water, etc.).

 

Your probably in a grey area… 

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 4.9 for medical records transfer from hospital to clinic

 

Could 4.9GHz be used for medical records transfer from hospital to clinic if 
license was passed from county to hospital?

It's a long shot, but I have to ask.

-- 



Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

[AFMUG] SAF North America will be Out of the Office on Veteran's Day

2014-11-07 Thread Daniel White via Af

To all my fellow Veterans (proud Marine here) have a great Veteran’s Day 
Weekend.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: SAF North America 
[mailto:daniel.white=saftehnika@mail203.atl121.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of SAF 
North America
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:46 AM
To: Sales North America
Subject: SAF North America will be out of office on Veteran's Day

 






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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower questions.

2014-11-06 Thread Daniel White via Af

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/NA_Communication_Technologies/Home/Products/~/3M-Fiber-Dome-Stubbed-Terminal-FDST?N=7569752+3294492387
 

 &rt=rud

 

I like these.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

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E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower questions.

 

I would want to do fiber up for each device, but I know many put a switch up 
there. Eventually our vendors will listen to us and put fiber on the APs.

I was excited about the squids until Chuck Hogg pointed me to some high dollar 
eBay auctions for them. I guess I'll just put a PVC box up there and a fiber 
patch panel.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

   
  
  
 



  _  

From: "Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: "af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:56:49 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower questions.

For those of you who run fiber + DC up the tower

 

Do you run a separate fiber pair up the tower for each radio?  Or do you mount 
an ethernet switch up top?  How do you do injection, eth switching, etc...

 

I'm continually being asked to do a product to help with these fiber up the 
tower builds, and as we don't generally bump into the 100M distance limit in 
installs I've been involved with I'm at a bit of a loss understanding how 
people typically wire this - or I guess would like to wire this.

 

Pictures would be great!

 

-forrest

Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

2014-11-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Very soon I hope.  With the holidays coming, I won’t be surprised if we are 
announcing it at Animal Farm (already signed up as a Platinum Sponsor!).

Saying the radio will be unique I think is an understatement :-D

Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC

Cell:

(303) 746-3590

Skype:

danieldwhite

E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John via Af
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

is 11 ghz available yet?

On 11/5/2014 12:44 PM, Daniel White via Af wrote:

Integra that is FCC certified and shipping now is 60MHz wide.

Integra-W that supports 80MHz wide channels will go thru the process either 
later this month or more likely in December.

Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC

Cell:

(303) 746-3590

Skype:

danieldwhite

E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

How wide is the channel for full throughput in the US?

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Nice. Thx

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 4, 2014 6:37 AM, "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

With our ETSI power limits I should see up to 300Mbps (128QAM) both ways.

At the moment I see „only“ 240 Mbps (64QAM). The polarisation is

shown wrong. Signal is exactly as calculated. Talking to support now to wrench 
out

some Mbps. In US I would see 470Mbps on this link.

Latency as always <1ms. 

Happy to move another link out of the 5GHz Band.

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag 
von Jaime Solorza via Af
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. November 2014 14:19
An: Animal Farm
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

Cool. Curious to see much you can push through link. 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 3, 2014 9:39 PM, "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

one mile

Von: Jay Weekley via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Gesendet: ‎Dienstag‎, ‎4‎. ‎November‎ ‎2014 ‎04‎:‎57
An: Jay Weekley via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> 

Welcher Entfernung

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 3, 2014 12:17 PM, "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

> Integra 24GHz. Love it. Easy to mount. No need to crimp. Small profile.
> I will mount the second side tomorrow and see how it performs.
>
>

-- 
-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>

Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

2014-11-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Integra that is FCC certified and shipping now is 60MHz wide.

Integra-W that supports 80MHz wide channels will go thru the process either 
later this month or more likely in December.

Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC

Cell:

(303) 746-3590

Skype:

danieldwhite

E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie via Af
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

How wide is the channel for full throughput in the US?

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Nice. Thx

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 4, 2014 6:37 AM, "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

With our ETSI power limits I should see up to 300Mbps (128QAM) both ways.

At the moment I see „only“ 240 Mbps (64QAM). The polarisation is

shown wrong. Signal is exactly as calculated. Talking to support now to wrench 
out

some Mbps. In US I would see 470Mbps on this link.

Latency as always <1ms. 

Happy to move another link out of the 5GHz Band.

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] Im Auftrag 
von Jaime Solorza via Af
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. November 2014 14:19
An: Animal Farm
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

Cool. Curious to see much you can push through link. 

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 3, 2014 9:39 PM, "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

one mile

Von: Jay Weekley via Af  
Gesendet: ‎Dienstag‎, ‎4‎. ‎November‎ ‎2014 ‎04‎:‎57
An: Jay Weekley via Af  

Welcher Entfernung

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 3, 2014 12:17 PM, "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

> Integra 24GHz. Love it. Easy to mount. No need to crimp. Small profile.
> I will mount the second side tomorrow and see how it performs.
>
>

-- 
-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] New Toy

2014-11-03 Thread Daniel White via Af

Strangely enough - the first ones for the North America market arrived in
our warehouse in Denver today.

Gotta love the weight - the whole thing weighs about what a standard radio
weighs (our Lumina for instance).

Daniel White  Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt via
> Af
> Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 12:17 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] New Toy
> 
> Integra 24GHz. Love it. Easy to mount. No need to crimp. Small profile.
> I will mount the second side tomorrow and see how it performs.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: remote support - part time jobs?

2014-11-03 Thread Daniel White via Af

When I was a teenager I did Pizza Delivery… also did it when I was in the 
Marines after hours to make some extra money.  I loved the job in general.

 

Sunday during football is also prime time.  Monday night can be good during the 
game but you only want the hour before and then up to about half time.

 

Choose the right store and location though.  I ended up quitting the job when I 
was in the Marines after only a month because the store I delivered for mostly 
hit low income areas.  After my fifth time of receiving literally no tip… and 
driving into neighborhoods where I didn’t feel safe (saying a lot for a 19 year 
old cocky Marine) I gave up.  

 

Also, never leave your car running and walk away from it.  I’ve seen more than 
my fair share of pizza delivery drivers have their cars stolen because then ran 
back into the store or left the car running at the crub.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett via Af
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 7:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: remote support - part time jobs?

 

You might consider pizza delivery.  You can definitely do that part time, and 
the pizza place will be very excited to get an application from someone who can 
spell their own name and address correctly.


I did it for awhile and the whole job is like taking a break from real life.  
Drive the car, listen to the radio, deliver the goods, smile, get a tip, drive 
more, fold boxes and sweep the floor while you wait for the next delivery.  Oh 
yeah, they also think you're  a hero at the pizza shop if you stay busy without 
being ordered to.  If they think you're a hero they'll give you whatever shift 
you want.  You want Friday and Saturday night.

Unlike tech supportor anything else I ever did, the customer is always 
happy to see you and the interaction with them is always positive.  It was 
maybe one time in three hundred that anybody gave the pizza guy any attitude.

On the less rosy side, you do have to pay attention to your vehicle maintenance 
and fuel costs and make sure you're actually making money.  You might gross 
$15/hour, and if you can do a lot of the basic car stuff on your own, you'll 
only put 20-30% back into the car.  Too many people went in and back out of 
that job because they weren't paying attention to what they were doing to their 
car.  

The other thing that ruined people was tickets.  Speeding, red lights, failure 
to yieldone ticket and you just paid out a couple of days worth of income 
to the court.  Parking is not an issue thoughnobody ever gave me trouble 
for parking anywhere as long as I had the pizza sign on the car.

My banker has been being a dick about that whole paying him back on the house 
thing lately, every month making me pay, its like come on man, i took the 
money, isnt that enough? 

 

Ive been applying for remote support and helpdesk type stuff that is remote 
office.. but everything Ive interviewed for ends up being full time only. And 
none of them offer upward mobility given the nature of the work.

 

any of you folks know of any of these call centers that hire part time remote 
workers? I dont care about being overqualified or the pay being crap, just 
looking for some supplemental dough.

 

One thing amazes me is how many of these outfits use skype for communications, 
I dont know if theyre ultimately routing customer calls through skype or what, 
but thats the requirement they have. It used to be required you had a pots line


 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently

2014-10-29 Thread Daniel White via Af

That we have announced, of course.

Of course we also don't announce radios then don't have inventory for 6 months 
either.  We don't even talk roadmap under NDA for things that are less than a 
realistic 6 months out.

FYI Integra does support LAG (or PLA as other vendors call it) and I'd also 
argue 2+0 at $10k less is a lot more attractive than 1+0 with no hardware 
redundancy.  And no software keys.  And a 5 year warranty.

Our 11GHz implementation is coming along very well.  Trust me, the wait will be 
worth it.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
> 
> Last time I looked at SAF Integra it didn't do 1gig in 11ghz on one channel 
> with
> XPIC. Also I don't have to combine the data at the bottom of the tower. Its 
> all
> one radio interface which is much easier for routing. For us those were huge
> requirements. Exalt has done that for a couple of years. PTP820c looks better
> since it will have full QoS control and OAM.
> 
> Matthew Jenkins
> SmarterBroadband
> m...@sbbinc.net
> 530.272.4000
> 
> On 10/29/2014 10:28 AM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote:
> > matt i'd suggest looking at the SAF integra.  You could almost buy 2
> > links for the prices you quoted from the other brands ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af  > > wrote:
> >
> > All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I
> > am using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM
> > features.
> >
> > Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k)
> > Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k)
> > Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about
> > $35k?)
> >
> > Matthew Jenkins
> > SmarterBroadband
> > m...@sbbinc.net 
> > 530.272.4000 
> >
> > On 10/28/2014 10:41 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
> >
> > What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now?
> > I'm assuming it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af
> > mailto:af@afmug.com>  > >> wrote:
> >
> > Or thereabouts.  Our newest link was engineered for -43.
> > No smoke.
> >
> > bp
> >
> > On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
> >
> > What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff
> > I've dealt
> > with has been engineered to be hotter than -40.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  >
> omputingSolutionsDeKalb> -
> > computing-solutions>
> >
> >
> > 
> > 
> > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke via Af"  > >  > >
> > *To: *af@afmug.com 
> > >
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig
> > licensed
> > radio currently
> >
> > yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the
> > threshold
> > required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down
> > to 256QAM
> > and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio?
> >
> > If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of
> > something like
> > -57.5 to operate at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM
> > radio at -63
> > or thereabouts. Not much fade margin. Not something
> > you can
> > reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link
> > pretending to be
> > a fiber patch cable between two routers.
> >
> > Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with
> > 60cm size
> > antennas and the normal RSL is -35.0
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af
> > mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently

2014-10-29 Thread Daniel White via Af

Depends – is speed measured by latency or capacity *ducks*

Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC

Cell:

(303) 746-3590

Skype:

danieldwhite

E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently

What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? I'm assuming it 
will be 80mhz and 2048qam+?

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Or thereabouts.  Our newest link was engineered for -43.  No smoke.

bp

On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff I've dealt with has been 
engineered to be hotter than -40.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

  _  

From: "Eric Kuhnke via Af"   
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently

yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required to run 
at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down to 256QAM and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio?

If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of something like -57.5 to operate 
at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM radio at -63 or thereabouts. Not much fade 
margin. Not something you can reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link 
pretending to be a fiber patch cable between two routers. 

Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with 60cm size antennas and the 
normal RSL is -35.0

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5 miles, one 60Mhz
frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using 2048QAM, uses two cores
(same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a combiner on the
antenna.  Looks like any other single FODU install, very clean.  Not
inexpensive however.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:
> Cambium PTP820c
> Exalt ExtremeAir
>
> Both will give you 1gig in a single radio.
>
> Matthew Jenkins
> SmarterBroadband
> m...@sbbinc.net  
> 530.272.4000  
>
> On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
>>
>>
>> Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
>> bargain?
>>
>> *Peter Kranz
>> *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
>> www.UnwiredLtd.com   
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100  
>> Mobile: 510-207-  
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com   
>>  >
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting

2014-10-29 Thread Daniel White via Af

That has got to be one of the best e-mails I have read in a long time :-)

 

Commscope makes a nice option for a large non-pen mast – but I’d steer away 
from anything with less than a 4” OD mast for a 4ft antenna.  Rohn makes a 
similar one, and Baird has a few options.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting

 

I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard

If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this achieved 
you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with dickheads like me 
that I have.

 

 

I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and thats that. 

 

Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final project 
ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from 
Moonblink(Jarrod Washington [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com 
 ]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I 
will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in 
olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them to 
you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy 
that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price shop his 
parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If my daughter was old 
enough, Id marry her to him.

 

In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One side is 3' 
the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option of being mounted 
on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall mount is 
currently only secured every 20' with a 2" deep concrete anchor, Im pretty sure 
this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics 
to it)

 

We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we go to that 
expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4" antenna at the top. 

 

Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4" parabolic? This side we can 
do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest footprint.

 

The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' footprint 
mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious.

 

 

Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding to achieve 
a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no 
value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec and just want to 
brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get 
to a point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I can meet the 
minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from there.

 




 

-- 

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • The Register

2014-10-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

FSO is attenuated much worse by rain fade, and MTBF is much lower than radios 
(typically less than 10 years).  Depending on the cost of the unit, sunlight 
reflecting into the lens will cause issues.

 

Also, things like fog, dust, etc. attenuate FSO where radio does not.

 

FSO is a dying technology in my mind… I can only think of one company that 
still manufacturers FSO gear (Lightpointe).  SAF actually built FSO links 
around 2000 or so… but got out of it due to the limitations of the technology.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

 

Oh, at that distance might as well use FSO.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:32:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

60Ghz attenuates a lot by moisture. All vendors I talk to dont recommend more 
than 500m = 1/3 mile.

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2014 15:27
An: af@afmug.com  
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

 

I can't wait.

By short you mean like up to a mile?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:16:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

60 Ghz band ist good for up to 500m ptp. There are products from silku, athena, 
sub10

 

Based on a 802.11ad chipsets this band might give dirt cheap short

gigabit links.

 

This is the only 802.11ad chipset I know of: 
http://wilocity.com/products/chipsets

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jaime Solorza via Af
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2014 15:02
An: Animal Farm
Betreff: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • The 
Register

 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/13/samsung_promises_46_gbps_wifi_maybe_next_year/

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • The Register

2014-10-13 Thread Daniel White via Af

Oxygen is the main consideration… although rain attenuation is high as well.

 

60GHz is a 1/3 mile shot… or 500m… max product.

 

802.11ad chipsets could result in ultra-cheap outdoor PtP equipment… but the 
products at a minimum are a year away or so.

 

Lots of startups trying to hit homeruns in this space… I’ve personally spoken 
to a few in my travels/trade shows

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt via Af
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

 

60Ghz attenuates a lot by moisture. All vendors I talk to dont recommend more 
than 500m = 1/3 mile.

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2014 15:27
An: af@afmug.com  
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

 

I can't wait.

By short you mean like up to a mile?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Stefan Englhardt via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:16:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • 
The Register

60 Ghz band ist good for up to 500m ptp. There are products from silku, athena, 
sub10

 

Based on a 802.11ad chipsets this band might give dirt cheap short

gigabit links.

 

This is the only 802.11ad chipset I know of: 
http://wilocity.com/products/chipsets

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jaime Solorza via Af
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2014 15:02
An: Animal Farm
Betreff: [AFMUG] Samsung: 4.6 GIGABIT WiFi, suck in a movie in SECONDS • The 
Register

 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/13/samsung_promises_46_gbps_wifi_maybe_next_year/

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets - Feedback Wanted

2014-10-11 Thread Daniel White via Af

Integra and Integra-S has 2x SFP +1 RJ-45 PoE.

 




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SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

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Skype:

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets - Feedback 
Wanted

 

I look for radios with 2x SFP. I don't find them as often as I'd like.

I'm not going to bed with the radio, so I don't care what it feels like.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

  _  

From: "Charles Wu via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com> >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 4:54:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [QUAR] Re: Microwave Backhaul Ethernet Grommets - Feedback 
Wanted

>I'm ok with plastic,
>put a spare in each..
>they often get lost anyway..

Economically, the plastic connectors make a lot of sense, but there's just 
something about it

Some additional thoughts...

The radio has a total of 4 holes (3 RJ-45 and 1 SFP connector for fiber)

What if I were to include 1 metal connector, which will probably work for most 
since I imagine most people are still only using a single connector per radio 
(correct me if I'm wrong and you guys actually use NMS ports / etc)

Regarding extra and/or spare connectors, it seems to make sense to include some 
extra plastic ones, and have an option for people who prefer * metal 
connectors* to pay extra for those (vs charging everyone an extra $100 / radio 
to include 3-4 extra connectors that might never be used).  And if someone is 
ok with the plastic connector option, I'd probably just set it up a box of them 
customer service so they could just grab a handful and ship them out as 
necessary.

Would having plastic *spare* connectors included make the Microwave radio feel 
*cheap* ?

-Charles

Re: [AFMUG] New Radio in FCC Database

2014-10-09 Thread Daniel White via Af

If you unseal the radio you let out the magic smoke… duh :-D

It is the same radio as our current Integra radio.  So single polarization 
utilizing a cross-pol technique.  The widest channel you can use in that 
situation is 80MHz (there has to be a guard band between TX and RX)… and the 
only way to get wider is to do something similar to what Ubiquiti did.

So 474Mbps Full Duplex plus header compression.

We have another Integra-24GHz radio to get FCC certified as well… soon ;-)  But 
it will be a variant of the radio we are announcing at WISPAPALOOZA next week.

Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC

Cell:

(303) 746-3590

Skype:

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E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Radio in FCC Database

Tests say up to 60mhz, I guess 1024QAM so almost 500mbit each way. From the 
polarization label in back I guess it's single-polarized?

As often done, internal photos are restricted from the public :-/

>From the letter to the FCC:
>The device is sealed and disassembly would destroy the product.

...really?

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Since Gino missed this yesterday:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits 
<https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=474602&fcc_id=W9Z-INTEGRA24>

&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=474602&fcc_id=W9Z-INTEGRA24

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SAF North America LLC

Cell:

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[AFMUG] New Radio in FCC Database

2014-10-08 Thread Daniel White via Af

Since Gino missed this yesterday:

 

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits

&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=474602&fcc_id=W9Z-INTEG
RA24

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

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Re: [AFMUG] name

2014-10-07 Thread Daniel White via Af

Maybe I'm starting a WISP ;-)

At least I get to brush off my tower monkey skills tomorrow.  Fall colors
here we come!

Daniel White
(303) 746-3590
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:00 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] name
> 
> Domain name is registered by a Denver marketing company.  Is this JAB's
> new name to unite all their various brands?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Travis Johnson via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:31 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] name
> 
> Name name... what's in a name?!?!?!?
> 
> Rise Broadband is coming...
>

Re: [AFMUG] MARRIOTT TO PAY $600, 000 TO RESOLVE WIFI-BLOCKING INVESTIGATION

2014-10-06 Thread Daniel White via Af

Comsearch.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby via Af
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 9:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MARRIOTT TO PAY $600, 000 TO RESOLVE WIFI-BLOCKING 
INVESTIGATION

 

Tim,

The lists doesn't show sender email addresses.  Are you with the FCC?  

Randy

On 10/3/2014 11:45 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af wrote:

More information about impermissible Wi-Fi blocking or jamming practices is 
available at

www.fcc.gov/jammers  . If you would like additional 
information about Wi-Fi blocking, you may email us at

jammeri...@fcc.gov  .

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett via Af
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 1:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MARRIOTT TO PAY $600, 000 TO RESOLVE WIFI-BLOCKING 
INVESTIGATION

 

 

being a hotel might be the thing that made it a problem.  If an enterprise or 
hospital does it as a security measure, I have trouble believing that's 
illegal. 

Marriott are dicks, but here's an interesting question...




broad spectrum 2.4 or 5 GHz jammers are illegal, yeah.

But is an 802.11-compliant device issuing deauth requests illegal, if part-15 
devices are supposed to accept any unwanted interference and there's no 
recourse?

Provided that the device issuing deauth requests is operating within spec for 
EIRP, channel plan, etc.

 

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-329743A1.docx

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

2014-10-05 Thread Daniel White via Af

Apple

 

http://youtu.be/Dme81JEnoqw

 

Sure it says Viruses instead of Botnet… but to an uninformed consumer all of 
that stuff is the same isn’t it (and I’m really talking about anyone outside 
the IT/Telecommunications industry without the tech background).

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen via Af
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

 

Who said Macs were immune? 17k is hardly cause for panic. What is that, less 
than 1% affected?

 

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

So much for the belief that Macs are immune to malware.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/reddit-powered-botnet-infected-thousands-of-macs-worldwide/

Re: [AFMUG] Find licensed links in progress?

2014-10-02 Thread Daniel White via Af

Thanks for giving me another excuse to come visit Alaska!  Well… maybe next 
spring :-D

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 11:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Find licensed links in progress?

 

Side note:

We just put up an 11GHz SAF link, and I love it. We will be ordering more 
before too long.

Thanks Daniel

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com> 

On 10/02/2014 09:12 PM, Daniel White via Af wrote:

Remember – conditional authorization happens in 2 to 4 weeks… but the license 
isn’t usually granted for at least another 30 days.

 

I have no idea how long it takes to show up on the website.

 

They always could be 24GHz radios – we sell lots of those too in most of our 
product models (Lumina for instance is available in 24GHz).  Gino might have 
something to report re: Integra in a few days.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: [AFMUG] Find licensed links in progress?

 

Hey guys,

 

There's a tower we want to colocate on that has 2 licensed SAF links and we 
know who is up there as the tower own has told us who is there. When I search 
the FCC License database though, I see their other licensed locations and paths 
for other towers they're on but not for the new tower they've been on for at 
least 2-3 months now. Is there that long of a lag from the license being 
granted to showing up on the FCC site? The more unlikely thing is they ordered 
links and put them up without being granted a license. I doubt that is the case 
because they have all their other links licensed and and they show up fine. 

 

Any ideas or feedback on this?


 

-- 

Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> 

507-634-WiFi

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<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Re: [AFMUG] Find licensed links in progress?

2014-10-02 Thread Daniel White via Af

Remember – conditional authorization happens in 2 to 4 weeks… but the license 
isn’t usually granted for at least another 30 days.

 

I have no idea how long it takes to show up on the website.

 

They always could be 24GHz radios – we sell lots of those too in most of our 
product models (Lumina for instance is available in 24GHz).  Gino might have 
something to report re: Integra in a few days.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Find licensed links in progress?

 

Hey guys,

 

There's a tower we want to colocate on that has 2 licensed SAF links and we 
know who is up there as the tower own has told us who is there. When I search 
the FCC License database though, I see their other licensed locations and paths 
for other towers they're on but not for the new tower they've been on for at 
least 2-3 months now. Is there that long of a lag from the license being 
granted to showing up on the FCC site? The more unlikely thing is they ordered 
links and put them up without being granted a license. I doubt that is the case 
because they have all their other links licensed and and they show up fine. 

 

Any ideas or feedback on this?


 

-- 

Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com  

507-634-WiFi

   Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] valuing a pay increase

2014-10-02 Thread Daniel White via Af

Steve,

 

My best advice, is for you to search your soul to decide what you think you are 
worth.  An honest appraisal of what you think you can command on the market 
elsewhere.  List the pro’s and con’s.  There is obvious value in your work 
environment that cannot be measured by pay alone – or you would have left (the 
commute for instance).  The strong-arm approach only works with another offer 
in hand in my opinion, because if they say no… you have changed the dynamic.  
But asking for a honest appraisal and asking how you can make more are 
non-threating ways to make the boss want to give you the raise, instead of 
feeling forced to give you the raise.

 

Being the guy that sets pay for other employees now, and also looking in my own 
pocket, I have to do this analysis too on both sides.  Just like equipment, 
value comes in forms other than just pure pay.  

 

I put a $40,000 USD value on working at SAF… money I don’t see a dime of but 
out of the pure satisfaction I have with working for a great management team, 
and overall great employees.  I’ve turned down much more lucrative offers 
because the work environment wouldn’t be as good, or I don’t feel like I could 
put my name on the product I’d be selling.  That is really important to me, 
that I can stand behind the product I sell… that I would use it in my own 
network if I was building a new one from scratch today (and boy does that bug 
itch some days).  The other things make me feel good about my pay, even if it’s 
not what I may want (and with 4 kids, a house, and a stubborn women who doesn’t 
want to leave me either… more money is always a motivating factor!).

 

My philosophy, work hard, focus on your career goals, and work towards them.  
In the end, I think it will all eventually work out for the best.  You never 
know… you might be the guy at JAB in two years running things in your neck of 
the woods (if I hadn’t gone to 3-dB Networks when I did… I would have been 
working for JAB myself… and could see myself still there).

 

Good luck in your situation!

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] valuing a pay increase

 

Oh, I dont dismiss it completely, but it should not be in lieu of at minimum 
cost of living.

 

I have no clue though from an employee side what value to place on a pay 
increase "negotiation". I didnt give the details of the job I turned down I 
just left it at I didnt want to have the extended commute. Ive never been one 
of those strongarm people who says "What will you give me to stay" but 
everything I read about it basically says thats what you should do, negotiate 
and leverage everything. But I also know once you alter a dynamic with demands, 
you pay in the long run.

 

I want another 30k a year every year but thats not realistic.

 

I  know our profits have increased at a pretty good clip so its not a recession 
issue. I know two of the 4 competitors in the area pay on average more than I 
make for less critical staff (critical being used loosely) I dont know what the 
other two pay.

 

most of you owners know how you would take an employee walking in with 
unrealistic expectations, but ou also know that if youd be willing to offer up 
a foot and the employee asks for an inch, youre not going to argue

 

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Providing Health Insurance is a nice bonus though...especially if he is 
covering your whole family.  My family insurance is friggin' expensive for a 
family of 4!




Regards,
Chuck

 

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:57 PM, That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

lol, hes not a dick, hes actually a pretty decent conservative capitalist 
christian. I started that conversation 4 months ago right after I turned down a 
much better paying job because of the commute. I got that job offer because I 
went to meet with a tech from another contract service provider who was taking 
over our contract, it turned out he wasnt a tech he was the owner of the 
company, apparently I clean up nice, when I went for the final closeout meeting 
it turned out to be an hour and a half interview. But afterward i started the 
whats the future direction of the company, what can I do in the company to give 
myself a financial and personal growth future in the company, conversation. I 
screwed up by divulging about half of my business plan if I was going to step 
out on my own, probably a bad idea. but I keep getting the well theres this and 
theres that and the i need to meet with x to discuss y and ill get back to you, 
the most I get out of him is we havent sold to Jab (which I dont want because 
theres no role for me if it happenned) and we arent closing the doors, and we 
might look at giving you a dollar and maybe some scheduled raises.

 

I have two kids, a house, this broad that lives

Re: [AFMUG] Bowling in Vegas

2014-10-01 Thread Daniel White via Af

And I have no clue if Kristaps bowls or not!

 

Funny – I leave WISPAPALOOZA to fly to Latvia.  Guess I’ll ask him in person 
(and I have to say, Ubiquiti picked the nicest building in Riga for an office… 
lucky guy).

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Moore via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bowling in Vegas

 

;-)  Does he bowl?? I am having to be very selective...We don't want to go 
down! ;-)

 

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Daniel White via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

I’m only bowing if Kristaps comes and is on the SAF team :-P

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590  


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

 <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Ben Moore via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 1:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bowling in Vegas

 

Hopefully not beating me...but bowling with me :-)...Matt said he is planning 
on bowling in the 220'swith bumpers.

Thanks,

Ben


On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Ben,

 

So we going to be bowling with you?  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net <mailto:den...@linktechs.net>  – 314-735-0270 
  – www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Moore via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 1:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Cc: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt Unifi AC Ceiling Bracket

 

Yes send us an email with address.

Thanks,

Ben


On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Darin Steffl via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Email support and they'll take care of it for you. 

 

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Bobby Lacey via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Anyone have an extra one of these lying around or know where I could purchase 
one? Came home to find my AP hanging from the ceiling because one of the clips 
broke somehow. :(





 

-- 

Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/> 

507-634-WiFi

 <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>  Like us on Facebook 
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Re: [AFMUG] Bowling in Vegas

2014-10-01 Thread Daniel White via Af

I’m only bowing if Kristaps comes and is on the SAF team :-P

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Moore via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 1:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bowling in Vegas

 

Hopefully not beating me...but bowling with me :-)...Matt said he is planning 
on bowling in the 220'swith bumpers.

Thanks,

Ben


On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Ben,

 

So we going to be bowling with you?  

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net   – 314-735-0270 – 
www.linktechs.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Moore via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 1:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Cc: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt Unifi AC Ceiling Bracket

 

Yes send us an email with address.

Thanks,

Ben


On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Darin Steffl via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Email support and they'll take care of it for you. 

 

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Bobby Lacey via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Anyone have an extra one of these lying around or know where I could purchase 
one? Came home to find my AP hanging from the ceiling because one of the clips 
broke somehow. :(





 

-- 

Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com  

507-634-WiFi

   Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel White via Af

Maybe I need to go find a tower harness and climb it again ;-)

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett via Af
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

 

It's currently a dragonwave 18ghz that runs at about 350mbps but we are 
installing this week a new dual SAF integra link that'll run at 1gbps ;)

 



On Monday, September 29, 2014, Josh Baird via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

That is a lot of AP's.  What kind of backhaul?

 

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Sean Heskett via Af  > wrote:

Yeah that tower is one of our busiest

 

We have 23 APs there 

6-450s

5-430s

12-fsk

 

Around 700-800 clients :)

 

Plus the views from the top are amazing!

 



On Monday, September 29, 2014, Matt Jenkins via Af  > wrote:

I am having serious tower envy right now. Your coverage potential is astounding!

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net  
530.272.4000  

On 09/29/2014 12:20 PM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote:

i thought y'all might enjoy some pics from one of our towers.

Re: [AFMUG] Fall colors

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel White via Af

I’ve climbed that tower!

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett via Af
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Fall colors

 

i thought y'all might enjoy some pics from one of our towers.

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-28 Thread Daniel White via Af

Yes, SAF, really soon.  Gino is being coy, since he visited our factory in
Riga just a few weeks ago and spoke to our product managers directly ;-)

 

Maybe more to be announced at WISPAPALOOZA (sometimes I hate biting my
tongue working for a company that only announces new products actually in
production). although 11GHz isn't in the 30 day roadmap (production wise).
But I would not be surprised to see some links shipped by end of this
calendar year.

 

Okay back to my last day of vacation :-D

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+afmugdw=gmail@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino
Villarini via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

Saf, real soon or so im told

 

 

 

Gino A. Villarini

President

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

www.aeronetpr.com 

@aeronetpr

 

 

 

From: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Organization: SPITwSPOTS
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Date: Monday, September 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM
To: "af@afmug.com  " mailto:af@afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com  

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

 

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

2014-09-21 Thread Daniel White via Af

PBR is designed to be mated with UBR, etc.  Otherwise the dual gaskets (or lack 
thereof) will cause issues.

 




Daniel White | Managing Director

SAF North America LLC


 

Cell:

 

(303) 746-3590


Skype:

danieldwhite


E-mail:

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+afmugdw=gmail@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin 
Stanners via Af
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

 

Can grooved and ungrooved waveguides be safely be used together, e.g. in 
outside weather? Like PBR and UBR?

 

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote:

Waveguide is a broadband bandpass filter.  You can couple one size to another 
as long as there is overlap in the pass band.  Go to low in frequency and the 
waveguide just blocks the signal.  The cut off frequency. It is not a brick 
wall filter.  Normally the cut off frequency is something like the 1 dB 
mismatch loss frequency,  go lower and the loss goes up quickly.

Different problem in going too high.

To use my photon analogy:

Photons simply will not fit down the tube if they are too large (low 
frequency).  Go too high in frequency and you get other than single file 
photons trying to get town the tube.  Like two abreast, two rows two columns 
etc etc.

Those are called higher order modes and you can use them if you take care of 
launching and receiving the signal in a low loss high return loss manner.

http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/waveguide-chart.htm

Then there are the non rectangular waveguides.  Ridge waveguide is physically 
smaller than rectangular waveguide.  Circular is good for dual pol and is 
exceedingly low loss but extra care has to be taken to prevent polarization 
rotation.

-Original Message- From: cstanners--- via Af
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:41 PM
To: Jason McKemie via Af
Subject: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

Does anyone have resources/FAQs/etc to understand Waveguide compatibility?

Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?

2014-09-18 Thread Daniel White via Af

Actually our PR guys written and spoken English is better than most American's. 
 He was an editor for a newspaper that shut down in Latvia that was English 
only.

Doesn't always mean that typos don't occur in documents that were rushed out 
the door (don't get me started on that ;-)

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+afmugdw=gmail@afmug.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Prince via Af
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:09 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> 
> That is ESL at work.
> 
> Thankfully Latvian <-> English is not as broken as Mandarin <-> English.
> 
> bp
> 
> On 9/18/2014 8:55 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote:
> > What is a Comopact device?
> >
> >
> > "For more information about SG Compact and Spectrum Comopact devices,
> > please visit SAF booth #4058 at the CTIA show in Las Vegas during
> > September 9-11, or contact your local SAF sales manager!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Matthew Jenkins
> > SmarterBroadband
> > m...@sbbinc.net
> > 530.272.4000
> >
> > On 09/18/2014 07:49 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote:
> >> Just found out PDF's are allowed now.
> >>
> >> Now see the attachment.
> >>
> >> Daniel White – Managing Director
> >> SAF North America LLC
> >>
> >> Cell:  (303) 746-3590
> >> Skype: danieldwhite
> >> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM
> >>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> >>>
> >>> attachment?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment.
> >>>>
> >>>> Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D
> >>>>
> >>>> Daniel White – Managing Director
> >>>> SAF North America LLC
> >>>>
> >>>> Cell:  (303) 746-3590
> >>>> Skype: danieldwhite
> >>>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
> >>>>> via
> >>> Af
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM
> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone know what new product announcements were made?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jon Langeler
> >>>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> >

Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?

2014-09-18 Thread Daniel White via Af

2GHz thru 8GHz. 

You need one per installer... and a backup of course ;-)

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+afmugdw=gmail@afmug.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Prince via Af
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:14 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> 
> Is that a "2 to 8 GHz signal generator,
> 
> or is it two8 GHz signal generators?
> 
> And do we need two of them?
> 
> bp
> 
> On 9/18/2014 7:47 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote:
> > Just found out PDF's are allowed now.
> >
> > Now see the attachment.
> >
> > Daniel White – Managing Director
> > SAF North America LLC
> >
> > Cell:  (303) 746-3590
> > Skype: danieldwhite
> > daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM
> >> To: af@afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> >>
> >> attachment?
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> SAF announced two products at CTIA.  Please see the attachment.
> >>>
> >>> Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D
> >>>
> >>> Daniel White – Managing Director
> >>> SAF North America LLC
> >>>
> >>> Cell:  (303) 746-3590
> >>> Skype: danieldwhite
> >>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
> via
> >> Af
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM
> >>>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>>> Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know what new product announcements were made?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon Langeler
> >>>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? - missing attachment?

2014-09-16 Thread Daniel White via Af

Where did my attachment go?  Paul maybe something is broken.  Was a PDF
file.

HTML Link is here:  https://www.saftehnika.com/#news-356

Daniel White  Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:59 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> 
> SAF announced two products at CTIA.  Please see the attachment.
> 
> Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D
> 
> Daniel White  Managing Director
> SAF North America LLC
> 
> Cell:  (303) 746-3590
> Skype: danieldwhite
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> >
> > Does anyone know what new product announcements were made?
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?

2014-09-16 Thread Daniel White via Af

SAF announced two products at CTIA.  Please see the attachment.

Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D

Daniel White  Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:  (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
> 
> Does anyone know what new product announcements were made?
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.

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