Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Been away from email for a few days. Just getting back to responding now. One could always connect the GPS Sync AP radio to the Force dish and have a GPS Sync’ed PTP radio. That is supported. We do not at this time plan to offer a bundled solution that provides that. Latency is higher when you use GPS Sync as opposed to the Flexible Mode of operation. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Will there be an option to use the GPS sync with the PTP110? If so what kind of latency will we get? On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:56 PM, John Butler via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Hi George: I want to clear up your questions about the Force product. The Force 110 (C058900C042A (FCC)) is as the spec sheet describes - a radio module and the dish. You can buy the radio and the dish separately, but when you buy them bundle as the Force, the price is better. We do not offer a radome for it at this time. The Force 110 PTP is the same dish, but bundled with the radio that we also use for the GPS Sync AP. The GPS is turned off. The benefit of this radio over the Force 110 is the 802.3af compliant gigabit Ethernet port. Regards, John Butler From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but I could be totally wrong. A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there. And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to believe. And now I'm confused too. Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm guessing no. On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "John Butler via Af" <mailto:af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Alan West via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Thanks for explaining, John. Now more questions... It definitely needs a radome. Not only for windload, but to keep ice from the feedhorn which is the main purpose of a radome. I guess I will use them as-is for now. Maybe you guys could make a snap-on radome with your sub-reflector built into it? Two birds, one stone. And make a larger version too, need more gain for longer/difficult links. I'm sure 25dBi will work for the 5-6 mile links I need to go with these. 8-10 miles really needs more antenna. It would be nice to have something in the 2' size of the same design. Like everyone else has already said, how do we get sync with the GPS radio that has the GPS disabled? Does it still take sync over power? And if we want the on-board GPS to function, is there an upgrade license or something? On 10/24/2014 2:56 PM, John Butler via Af wrote: Hi George: I want to clear up your questions about the Force product. The Force 110 (C058900C042A (FCC)) is as the spec sheet describes - a radio module and the dish. You can buy the radio and the dish separately, but when you buy them bundle as the Force, the price is better. We do not offer a radome for it at this time. The Force 110 PTP is the same dish, but bundled with the radio that we also use for the GPS Sync AP. The GPS is turned off. The benefit of this radio over the Force 110 is the 802.3af compliant gigabit Ethernet port. Regards, John Butler *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but I could be totally wrong. A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there. And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to believe. And now I'm confused too. Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm guessing no. On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"John Butler via Af" <mailto:af@afmug.com> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan West via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Will there be an option to use the GPS sync with the PTP110? If so what kind of latency will we get? On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:56 PM, John Butler via Af wrote: > Hi George: I want to clear up your questions about the Force product. > > > > The Force 110 (C058900C042A (FCC)) is as the spec sheet describes - a > radio module and the dish. You can buy the radio and the dish separately, > but when you buy them bundle as the Force, the price is better. We do not > offer a radome for it at this time. > > > > The Force 110 PTP is the same dish, but bundled with the radio that we > also use for the GPS Sync AP. The GPS is turned off. The benefit of this > radio over the Force 110 is the 802.3af compliant gigabit Ethernet port. > > > > Regards, > > > > John Butler > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup > (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:11 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP > > > > So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync > over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but > I could be totally wrong. > > A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or > Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If > the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the > complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there. > > And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec > sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module > [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the > rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to > believe. And now I'm confused too. > > Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm > guessing no. > > On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: > > Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > -- > > *From: *"John Butler via Af" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP > > Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the > Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our > channel partners in early November. > > The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized > Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel > partners in December. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Alan West via Af > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP > > > > Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. > > > > On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) > via Af wrote: > > > > Are these things shipping yet? > > > > >
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Ah, so same radio as the GPS, but due to it being a lot cheaper, has the GPS turned off. Software key to turn on sync? Are people selling the dish separately? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John Butler via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:56:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi George: I want to clear up your questions about the Force product. The Force 110 ( C058900C042A (FCC)) is as the spec sheet describes - a radio module and the dish. You can buy the radio and the dish separately, but when you buy them bundle as the Force, the price is better. We do not offer a radome for it at this time. The Force 110 PTP is the same dish, but bundled with the radio that we also use for the GPS Sync AP. The GPS is turned off. The benefit of this radio over the Force 110 is the 802.3af compliant gigabit Ethernet port. Regards, John Butler From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but I could be totally wrong. A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there. And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to believe. And now I'm confused too. Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm guessing no. On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John Butler via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Alan West via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Hi George: I want to clear up your questions about the Force product. The Force 110 (C058900C042A (FCC)) is as the spec sheet describes - a radio module and the dish. You can buy the radio and the dish separately, but when you buy them bundle as the Force, the price is better. We do not offer a radome for it at this time. The Force 110 PTP is the same dish, but bundled with the radio that we also use for the GPS Sync AP. The GPS is turned off. The benefit of this radio over the Force 110 is the 802.3af compliant gigabit Ethernet port. Regards, John Butler From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but I could be totally wrong. A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there. And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to believe. And now I'm confused too. Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm guessing no. On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> From: "John Butler via Af" <mailto:af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Alan West via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
So the 110 PTP uses the GPS radio, or is it a different radio with sync over power only and no on-board GPS? I thought I remember reading that, but I could be totally wrong. A distro rep just told us today that the Force 110 is due in Thrusday or Friday. I have a couple links I want to do with these instead of UBNT. If the 110 won't be available for 3-4 weeks, that's going to suck. And all the complaints about assembly of the Force 100, so I don't want to go there. And the distro's seem to be confused about the parts. The Force 110 spec sheet says: C058900C042A (FCC) – consists of a ePMP Radio Module [C058900A122A/C058900P122A] and ePMP Dish Antenna [C050900D007B].. and the rep said that's only the dish, the radio is extra. I find that hard to believe. And now I'm confused too. Oh, and do these things come with a radome? That would be nice, but I'm guessing no. On 10/21/2014 6:00 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> *From: *"John Butler via Af" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Alan West via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Ah, I didn't realize there was a 110 and a 110 PTP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "John Butler via Af" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:57:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Alan West via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Hi Alan: The Force 110 (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Unsync Radio (fast Ethernet port) is due to ship from our channel partners in early November. The Force 110 PTP (which is the new 25 dBi dish) and the Connectorized Radio with the Gigabit ethernet port is due to ship from our channel partners in December. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Alan West via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
In the webinar this morning they said early November if I remember correctly. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Alan West via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Guess not. I am so ready for a replacement for these Force 100 units. On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Are these things shipping yet?
[AFMUG] ePMP Force 110PTP
Are these things shipping yet?
