[algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-30 Thread Shruti Gupta
We can use the following stategy:
We consider range = 1 and search for given X among those 1 nos, if not
found i.e. if X>a[range-1] , we increase range = range*2.
If such right end is found , where a[range-1] > X, then we are sure
that X is somewhere b/w index [0, range-1] . And now do simple
binary search.
So, complexity = finding the apt. right end. + finding X = log n + log
n = log n

Shruti

On Sep 30, 10:52 pm, Adi Srikanth  wrote:
> if its an array, you can get the size of an array from sizeof(array) divided
> by size of element typethen we can perform binary search
>
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> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Don  wrote:
> > @Ashima: It is a hypothetical question assuming an infinite array,
> > which of course requires infinite memory. So don't worry about the
> > compiler and other practical considerations. In real life the mass of
> > the memory would cause it to collapse into a singularity long before
> > the compiler would become an issue. Because we know that the array is
> > sorted, we'll need a binary search at some point. But at first we
> > don't know the bounds of the search. We must first find an index in
> > the array which contains a value greater than or equal to the value
> > we're searching for. Then we can do a binary search. To find that
> > index, you could start at i=1 and double i until A[i] >= the value you
> > are searching for. My method uses something like Newton's Method which
> > will converge more quickly in some cases. It assumes that the slope is
> > fairly consistent, which may or may not be a good assumption.
>
> > Don
>
> > On Sep 30, 10:00 am, "Ashima ."  wrote:
> > > isnt this quest a lil wrong. coz suppose if i dnt know the length of an
> > > array,then how will i  access the last element of the array.in such  a
> > > case,i will almost traverse the whole memory and still not stop. coz
> > > compiler does not give array out of bound exception.
> > > Ashima
> > > M.Sc.(Tech)Information Systems
> > > 4th year
> > > BITS Pilani
> > > Rajasthan
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> > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:06 PM, pssaravanan
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > If the length of the array s not known,v could not apply the binary
> > > > search to search for an element. i think following code will produce
> > > > better solution.
>
> > > > i = 0;
> > > > for(i = 0;A[i] < p&& A[i] !=NULL;i = (i+1)^2);
> > > > j = i;
> > > > i = sqrt(i)-1;
> > > > applybinarysearch(i,j);
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Re: [algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-30 Thread Adi Srikanth
if its an array, you can get the size of an array from sizeof(array) divided
by size of element typethen we can perform binary search

Regards,
Adi Srikanth.
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Don  wrote:

> @Ashima: It is a hypothetical question assuming an infinite array,
> which of course requires infinite memory. So don't worry about the
> compiler and other practical considerations. In real life the mass of
> the memory would cause it to collapse into a singularity long before
> the compiler would become an issue. Because we know that the array is
> sorted, we'll need a binary search at some point. But at first we
> don't know the bounds of the search. We must first find an index in
> the array which contains a value greater than or equal to the value
> we're searching for. Then we can do a binary search. To find that
> index, you could start at i=1 and double i until A[i] >= the value you
> are searching for. My method uses something like Newton's Method which
> will converge more quickly in some cases. It assumes that the slope is
> fairly consistent, which may or may not be a good assumption.
>
> Don
>
> On Sep 30, 10:00 am, "Ashima ."  wrote:
> > isnt this quest a lil wrong. coz suppose if i dnt know the length of an
> > array,then how will i  access the last element of the array.in such  a
> > case,i will almost traverse the whole memory and still not stop. coz
> > compiler does not give array out of bound exception.
> > Ashima
> > M.Sc.(Tech)Information Systems
> > 4th year
> > BITS Pilani
> > Rajasthan
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:06 PM, pssaravanan
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If the length of the array s not known,v could not apply the binary
> > > search to search for an element. i think following code will produce
> > > better solution.
> >
> > > i = 0;
> > > for(i = 0;A[i] < p&& A[i] !=NULL;i = (i+1)^2);
> > > j = i;
> > > i = sqrt(i)-1;
> > > applybinarysearch(i,j);
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[algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-30 Thread Don
@Ashima: It is a hypothetical question assuming an infinite array,
which of course requires infinite memory. So don't worry about the
compiler and other practical considerations. In real life the mass of
the memory would cause it to collapse into a singularity long before
the compiler would become an issue. Because we know that the array is
sorted, we'll need a binary search at some point. But at first we
don't know the bounds of the search. We must first find an index in
the array which contains a value greater than or equal to the value
we're searching for. Then we can do a binary search. To find that
index, you could start at i=1 and double i until A[i] >= the value you
are searching for. My method uses something like Newton's Method which
will converge more quickly in some cases. It assumes that the slope is
fairly consistent, which may or may not be a good assumption.

Don

On Sep 30, 10:00 am, "Ashima ."  wrote:
> isnt this quest a lil wrong. coz suppose if i dnt know the length of an
> array,then how will i  access the last element of the array.in such  a
> case,i will almost traverse the whole memory and still not stop. coz
> compiler does not give array out of bound exception.
> Ashima
> M.Sc.(Tech)Information Systems
> 4th year
> BITS Pilani
> Rajasthan
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:06 PM, pssaravanan
> wrote:
>
> > If the length of the array s not known,v could not apply the binary
> > search to search for an element. i think following code will produce
> > better solution.
>
> > i = 0;
> > for(i = 0;A[i] < p&& A[i] !=NULL;i = (i+1)^2);
> > j = i;
> > i = sqrt(i)-1;
> > applybinarysearch(i,j);
>
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Re: [algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-30 Thread Ashima .
isnt this quest a lil wrong. coz suppose if i dnt know the length of an
array,then how will i  access the last element of the array.in such  a
case,i will almost traverse the whole memory and still not stop. coz
compiler does not give array out of bound exception.
Ashima
M.Sc.(Tech)Information Systems
4th year
BITS Pilani
Rajasthan




On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:06 PM, pssaravanan
wrote:

> If the length of the array s not known,v could not apply the binary
> search to search for an element. i think following code will produce
> better solution.
>
> i = 0;
> for(i = 0;A[i] < p&& A[i] !=NULL;i = (i+1)^2);
> j = i;
> i = sqrt(i)-1;
> applybinarysearch(i,j);
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[algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-30 Thread pssaravanan
If the length of the array s not known,v could not apply the binary
search to search for an element. i think following code will produce
better solution.

i = 0;
for(i = 0;A[i] < p&& A[i] !=NULL;i = (i+1)^2);
j = i;
i = sqrt(i)-1;
applybinarysearch(i,j);

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Re: [algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-29 Thread Tamanna Afroze
as the array is sorted binary search is the best option...

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Re: [algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-29 Thread praveen raj
@don we dnt hve ny info about arrangement...

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[algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Tiwari
@Don ... optimal one ... +1

On Sep 29, 7:32 pm, Don  wrote:
> To search for element T in array A[], start at a point p > 0.
> If A[p] > T, do a binary search on range 0..p.
> Otherwise set p = 1 + p * (T - A[0]) / (A[p] - A[0]).
> Repeat until A[p] >= T. Then the current and previous values of p are
> an interval containing T (if T is in A).
> Do a binary search on that interval.
> Don
>
> On Sep 29, 6:59 am, pooja  wrote:
>
> > Given a sorted Array of infinite length.. what is the most optimum way
> > to search for an element. We hane no idea about its length..
>
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[algogeeks] Re: Infinite Array

2011-09-29 Thread Don
To search for element T in array A[], start at a point p > 0.
If A[p] > T, do a binary search on range 0..p.
Otherwise set p = 1 + p * (T - A[0]) / (A[p] - A[0]).
Repeat until A[p] >= T. Then the current and previous values of p are
an interval containing T (if T is in A).
Do a binary search on that interval.
Don

On Sep 29, 6:59 am, pooja  wrote:
> Given a sorted Array of infinite length.. what is the most optimum way
> to search for an element. We hane no idea about its length..

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